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Bababadong
11-24-2007, 11:33 AM
I respect this song in the most, and the artists who made it. But seriously they said it wouldn't be a challenge for the avid Guitar Hero player. And guess what? ITS A FRICKIN CHALLENGE! I get to the second guitar solo, and then that part that has the continuous green, red, and yellow notes over and over. And then just for fun, they throw a red, yellow, and blue in the same fashion just to piss us all off! I ALREADY SPENT MY ENERGY ON THE FIRST ONE JACKASSES! I thought that doing expert on this game was going to be decently easy to do, but I'm not sure if some of the songs I can't beat in GHIII is as hard as this song. I'm sure that many people have complained about this, but seriously, through all the songs, they have to make you fail unrelentlessly just as you're getting your hopes up to beating the game. THANKS A LOT! If anyone has any advice to beat those second solo parts, as previously mentioned earlier, then please let me know, because I'm going to blow a blood vessel just trying to find new ways of beating it.
Jixzer
11-24-2007, 12:10 PM
The only advice I can give is practice, practice practice. Then, after all of that...practice more. :)
madcow153
11-24-2007, 12:12 PM
Try and get used to not strumming and using the smaller buttons on the guitar. When you get used to it you can just tap the trills with 2 hands.
Xzyliac
11-24-2007, 12:17 PM
Aside from stating the obvious (practice, use higher frets, duhr, duhr, duhr) I agree the song pwns but playing it sucks ass.
Should've been DLC. Aw, well.
cromartie90000
11-24-2007, 12:19 PM
I remember beating it on hard without much of a problem.
But on expert I get to the last venue and can't even beat the first song! ****e!
Oxyplox
11-24-2007, 12:21 PM
Play GGTH on expert drums.
Yeah, NO. O_O
DreamCycle
11-24-2007, 12:21 PM
A friend and myself were playing this song last night in BWT mode.. and upon the conclusion of the song my friend expressed his wish to punch the songwriter in the face :D
theetbkdude
11-24-2007, 12:24 PM
i agree i spent 2 hours trying to beat it i get to 85% and thats the part with the 3 buttens u were talking about. it pisses me off because the song is like 10 mins log to! and it has to be the last song too. hopefully i will beat it soon.
Eman311
11-24-2007, 12:24 PM
Yea still stuck at 95%, i have a buddy who should be able to get it done. I hand just can't keep that rhythm for that long. eventually i'll get it done, just like freebird. just sucks i have to wait until the very end.
It's funny, because the part in Raining Bloos (near the beginning) which looks much harder I can get 4x on.
foolosophy
11-24-2007, 12:27 PM
Yea still stuck at 95%, i have a buddy who should be able to get it done. I hand just can't keep that rhythm for that long. eventually i'll get it done, just like freebird. just sucks i have to wait until the very end.
It's funny, because the part in Raining Bloos (near the beginning) which looks much harder I can get 4x on.
That's because the window is much more forgiving.
Bababadong
11-24-2007, 12:37 PM
Well if this helps at all, while I was trying, I use my GHIII guitar to get to the solo, and then pressed pause, swapped that for my new Fender Start guitar that came with Rock Band, and tried to play the part with the small buttons, but it still didn't work. But if people need some tips, that's the one I used, but I didn't get it so I'm not sure how much help it truly is.
dirty_bird32
11-24-2007, 12:42 PM
Aren't there like three guitarists playing the various solos in the actual song?
Quastor
11-24-2007, 12:50 PM
This is Harmonix's way of paying you all back for saying RB on guitar was going to be too easy!
HA HA!
Ultrace
11-24-2007, 12:55 PM
This is Harmonix's way of paying you all back for saying RB on guitar was going to be too easy!
HA HA!
I was just thinking something along the lines of, "Wait, now people are admitting there are songs in the game that provide challenge instead of all being a cakewalk?"
Bababadong
11-24-2007, 01:14 PM
I was just thinking something along the lines of, "Wait, now people are admitting there are songs in the game that provide challenge instead of all being a cakewalk?"
Nah I was just reading OXMs rating of it and they said it was too easy for avid players, that's why I'm complaining. If professionals state an opinionated fact, it better be well placed, or at least have some proof behind it.
ShatteredKill
11-24-2007, 01:50 PM
Yea this song is difficult. I failed it the first time through but easily passed it my 2nd time through.
SoulScreme
11-24-2007, 01:52 PM
Play GGTH on expert drums.
Yeah, NO. O_O
Hell, medium drums are killing me right now. Wish this was DLC and Fortunate Son was free.
tombrady
11-24-2007, 01:52 PM
IMO rock band is harder for guitar on the tough tiers because you actually have to hit notes precisely as opposed to hitting buttons like a flailing ****** in GH3.
Xzyliac
11-24-2007, 01:56 PM
Aren't there like three guitarists playing the various solos in the actual song?
Three guitarist, two drummers, a bassist, and a lazy ass vocalist.
blue_dragonzero
11-24-2007, 01:59 PM
Three guitarist, two drummers, a bassist, and a lazy ass vocalist.
Lier, he sung a chorus or two! :rolleyes:
espher
11-24-2007, 02:11 PM
Three guitarist, two drummers, a bassist, and a lazy ass vocalist.
Sounds like my D&D party.
HMXJohnD
11-24-2007, 02:18 PM
When I played through the guitar campaign on Hard, this was the song that absolutely kicked my @$$ over and over. SO MANY SOLOS, SO MANY NOTES...WHY?????
But it's sorta worth it. For all the feedback that the songs aren't as shredtastic, it's nice to have one that puts you back in check (not to mention some of the other songs in that tier...and the Metallica DLC...yikes)
I'll stick to the drums for now (get it?? STICK??)
blue_dragonzero
11-24-2007, 02:22 PM
When I played through the guitar campaign on Hard, this was the song that absolutely kicked my @$$ over and over. SO MANY SOLOS, SO MANY NOTES...WHY?????
But it's sorta worth it. For all the feedback that the songs aren't as shredtastic, it's nice to have one that puts you back in check (not to mention some of the other songs in that tier...and the Metallica DLC...yikes)
I'll stick to the drums for now (get it?? STICK??)
HAHAH! You so funny! But seriously, it's nice to see Hmx employees haven't all ran away in fear.
Quastor
11-24-2007, 02:25 PM
HAHAH! You so funny! But seriously, it's nice to see Hmx employees haven't all ran away in fear.
Or, the forums are further broken and people can register with the HMX tag now...
So I'm guessing he's a fake!!! :D
blue_dragonzero
11-24-2007, 02:27 PM
Or, the forums are further broken and people can register with the HMX tag now...
So I'm guessing he's a fake!!! :D
OMG! Witch Hunt! Witch Hunt!
AdamBomb629
11-24-2007, 02:31 PM
OMG! Witch Hunt! Witch Hunt!
BURN THE Faux-Harmonix witch!
Edgehopper
11-24-2007, 02:31 PM
Come on, people, you can't have it both ways. Either the game is too easy on guitar, or GG&HT is too difficult a song. Pick one.
Or, the more sane position: Rock Band's difficulty is well balanced to provide challenge to experts and be accessible to beginners. If you can't handle GG&HT on Expert, drop down to Hard.
If you can't handle GG&HT (drums) on Medium, exercise some more :) Or just practice; it's not difficult, it's just long and strenuous. The game's biggest test of stamina on the lower difficulty levels.
Cyhsquid77
11-24-2007, 02:32 PM
doesnt freebird have a similar patern...i hate it why do these damn 10 minute long songs always have ONE hard part that always kills u
failing isnt so bad but its when u think ur gonna win and THEN u fail thats when i wanna rip off the whammy bar and throw the guitar out the window (btw guitar games are the only games that get me this fired up :mad:)
AdamBomb629
11-24-2007, 02:35 PM
Come on, people, you can't have it both ways. Either the game is too easy on guitar, or GG&HT is too difficult a song. Pick one.
Or, the more sane position: Rock Band's difficulty is well balanced to provide challenge to experts and be accessible to beginners. If you can't handle GG&HT on Expert, drop down to Hard.
If you can't handle GG&HT (drums) on Medium, exercise some more :) Or just practice; it's not difficult, it's just long and strenuous. The game's biggest test of stamina on the lower difficulty levels.
I HATE GG&HT on EXPERT GUITAR. The 80% mark is the death of me... but I do like the song. AND... I proudly beat it on medium drums yesterday after being conviced it was impossible. :)
Xzyliac
11-24-2007, 02:48 PM
Sounds like my D&D party.
Sounds like my typical company. :p
blue_dragonzero
11-24-2007, 02:49 PM
Sounds like my typical company. :p
You D&D too?
Xzyliac
11-24-2007, 02:57 PM
You D&D too?
No but all my friends (well almost) have bands. The vocalist is almost always that guy you love to hate or hate to love. Including yours truly.
doogs19
11-24-2007, 04:55 PM
You can debate the relative merits of this song all day - in art, it's tough to be right or wrong since it's (usually) a matter of taste. My problem with this song is that its inclusion is derivative - it's a weak sauce replacement for "Freebird" ... which is fairly weak sauce to being with (IMHO). I guess I don't get the whole southern rock anthem tunes.
My main beef is that I expected a bit more than retreading an old idea, I s'pose.
Xzyliac
11-24-2007, 05:14 PM
You can debate the relative merits of this song all day - in art, it's tough to be right or wrong since it's (usually) a matter of taste. My problem with this song is that its inclusion is derivative - it's a weak sauce replacement for "Freebird" ... which is fairly weak sauce to being with (IMHO). I guess I don't get the whole southern rock anthem tunes.
My main beef is that I expected a bit more than retreading an old idea, I s'pose.
W!N
*filler*
HMXJohnD
11-24-2007, 05:35 PM
BURN THE Faux-Harmonix witch!
Turns out, I more "crisp" than burn. But I am a Harmonix Employee :) I sit across from Sean and the community Team (including HMXJohnlok, or as I call him "Johnny V"...or DAMNIT I ASKED FOR AN APPLE JUICE BOX! WHAT IS THIS BERRY SH!T!??!) and thus am constantly hearing about the boards. Now that I've been home in Chicago for 3 days without HMX love, I decided to finally rock out on the boards a bit. And it has been fun times...
Heading back to Boston tomorrow (where i live with 2 other HMX employees!). Psyched to get back to work!
ROCK,
HMXJD
HMXJohnD
11-24-2007, 05:36 PM
God that sounded whiny/defensive :)
But for realz, I exist and work for HMX. Do not shun/burn/drown me to test this...
Thrashdragon
11-24-2007, 06:02 PM
The first time I finished GGHT on guitar, I looked up and asked "Why am I on the floor?" My fiance replied that when I finished the song, my character dropped the guitar and fell over. Pure awesomeness.
That's also the song that took me from "hey I'm pretty good at drums" to "jesus christ my arms are going to fall off this song is evil please god make it stop oh thank god its over and how in the hell did i get four stars".
jordan15b
11-24-2007, 06:05 PM
beat it first try
expert guitar
Axel32
11-24-2007, 06:32 PM
This songs a pain. T_T I can beat it on Hard easily, but if I play expert the solos just tear me to shreds. Sorta like Train Kept a Rollin'.. well maybe not so much.
I'm stuck on the last tier with this song and TKAR. If I could beat them I'd be happy and start on my other carrers more.. I really miss Freebird when it comes to this song. T_T..
LYNARD SKINARD FOR DLC!
sonicbrew
11-28-2007, 12:11 AM
You think its hard on that plastic guitar? Try playing it on a real guitar. That is one hell of a song and sadly the guitarist recently passed away...
HPLabonte
11-28-2007, 12:53 AM
LYNARD SKINARD FOR DLC!
u r teh best spellur uvr thx.
http://artfiles.art.com/images/-/Lynyrd-Skynyrd-Magnet-C12197652.jpeg
Thrashdragon
11-28-2007, 12:56 AM
When I beat it on Hard, my character dropped his guitar and fell over. I was dying laughing. It was pretty easy on Hard, but the one time I tried it on Expert the second solo kicked my butt, too. When I get a working Strat back I'm definitely going to try the solo buttons.
opusknecht
11-28-2007, 01:28 AM
I feel your pain, but this line cracks me up... :)
I thought that doing expert on this game was going to be decently easy to do<snip>
I played this song for the first time (on any instrument) last night on medium drums and just barely beat it. I had no idea what was in store for me. hehe.
logicalnoise
11-28-2007, 01:38 AM
I finally sat down and started practicing using the solo buttons. They are uber cool but pretty hard to master. On amplitude I can play insane difficulty using the face buttons but here I was somehow missing the timing. eitehr way it makes all that much more rewarding once I get it.
When we played green gras and high tides on co-op my buddy who is a bit better than me on expert lost all of his chances and was barely able to get through the solo with me saving him on drums. When I went to practice mode with the solo buttons I still stunk it up but I knew that if I kept at it I can get it eventually.
MSFTsucks
11-28-2007, 01:50 AM
Only one tip for that one, and it worked for me.
Strum every yellow. This will help you out quite a bit. Don't try to HOPO the entire thing as that will get you off really quickly. Just strum each yellow (every beat and a half I believe) and it will help you stay up with the notes and gives your fret fingers a reference point where they need to be.
Just my .02.
-MSFTsucks
MrCreamyT
11-28-2007, 02:04 AM
I can 100% the G/R/Y/R part pretty easily...it's just REALLY REALLY hard to get back on rhythm when you lose it. Just practice that rhythm, you'll pick it up after a little while.
And as far as the difficulty goes, it is too easy. GG&HT is sweet, but it's the ONLY song like that. I've yet to even get to a blinking red state on a song let alone fail one on expert. But that's not the problem at all since those songs are fun to play - the problem is the 35 other songs that are way way way too easy.
AcesHigh84
11-28-2007, 02:06 AM
I just 100% it last night. Just get used to the patterns and use ur solo buttons. They are a gift from the plastic guitar god. Youll get it down dont worry.
MSFTsucks
11-28-2007, 02:12 AM
I can 100% the G/R/Y/R part pretty easily...it's just REALLY REALLY hard to get back on rhythm when you lose it. Just practice that rhythm, you'll pick it up after a little while.
And as far as the difficulty goes, it is too easy. GG&HT is sweet, but it's the ONLY song like that. I've yet to even get to a blinking red state on a song let alone fail one on expert. But that's not the problem at all since those songs are fun to play - the problem is the 35 other songs that are way way way too easy.
Agreed. 5* everything on site read (except my 4* on GGHT). Definitely a bit too easy for guitar. Not complaining though b/c drums are hard enough (playing on hard now) to give me a good challenge.
-MSFTsucks
blakbuzzrd
11-28-2007, 03:11 AM
I love this song. I fail on expert at 84%, and want to jump out the window. But unlike most of the songs in the absurdly punishing tiers 7 and 8 on GH3, this is a song where even failing is fun ("Raining Blood," for instance, isn't fun even when I play it well). And I'm not really a Southern Rock aficionado, but this song snuck up on me and won me over.
What a great finisher it is!
Now, if I could only beat it...
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