Any Plans to Fix your Game?

[glide]

Harmonix / EA,
First off - the game is awesome (in concept); YOU have made it unplayable in practice.

Any plans to fix the faulty hardware you shipped with your game? Any plans to allow the other guitars YOU MADE for GH2/3 function with the PS3?

All I have seen is finger pointing and side stepping. I hope the bad press catches up with you and you get your act together. Why not take some initiative and help out the people that support you by purchasing your hardware/software?

[AdamBomb629]

Welcome to the forum. I would give them a few days before demanding answers to all the "bad press", finger pointing, and side stepping. You know, it was Thanksgiving a couple days ago.

[espher]

Any plans to fix the faulty hardware you shipped with your game? Any plans to allow the other guitars YOU MADE for GH2/3 function with the PS3?

a) They're doing hardware replacements.
b) They didn't make the other guitars.

Thanks for playing. Johnny, tell him what he's won.

[Ventura]

Welcome to the forum. I would give them a few days before demanding answers to all the "bad press", finger pointing, and side stepping. You know, it was Thanksgiving a couple days ago.

You mean a few more days?

Given all the issues with the new guitars, and the fact that ps3 owners have no choice but to buy the bundle twice over if they actually want to fill out all four members of the band, I'd have expected a patch by now to add support for either the GH3 controller or the PS2 guitars when using a converter.

I can understand the GH3 one not working with Rock Band, what with it being a competing product and all that, but GH1 and GH2 were both developed by Harmonix aswell. Red Octane made the controllers, I can understand that, but this is a software issue.

The ball's in Harmonix's court, they're just not returning it.

[tombrady]

I am frustrated, I am not going to do any research on possible reasons for this problem, I am just going to make a post on the internet and blame Harmonix.

[glide]

a.) Hardware replacements with the same faulty hardware is not a solution.
b.) Guitar hero is a Harmonix product (if you want to let them hide behind their publisher and dismiss that fact; that's fine with me.)
http://www.harmonixmusic.com/guitarhero.html

I hardly think its too early to be outraged and expect a response from the manufacturer. The bottom line is a product SHOULD NEVER have made it to market in this condition. So you'll forgive me if I don't care if they have to work on fixing it through the Thanksgiving holiday.

[Eagoyle]

b.) Guitar hero is a Harmonix product (if you want to let them hide behind their publisher and dismiss that fact; that's fine with me.)
http://www.harmonixmusic.com/guitarhero.html

Guitar hero is a Harmonix product, but the Guitar Hero Guitars were built by Red Octane.

[AdamBomb629]

Guitar hero is a Harmonix product, but the Guitar Hero Guitars were built by Red Octane.

THAT IS CORRECT SIR! AND Guitar Hero 3 was not Harmonix.

[Tyrsis]

Guitar hero is a Harmonix product, but the Guitar Hero Guitars were built by Red Octane.

QFT a million times over again. When are these morons going to see that these are two different companies.

Jesus Christ.

[espher]

a.) Hardware replacements with the same faulty hardware is not a solution.
b.) Guitar hero is a Harmonix product (if you want to let them hide behind their publisher and dismiss that fact; that's fine with me.)
http://www.harmonixmusic.com/guitarhero.html

a) There are clearly different batches of hardware as there are people who haven't experienced any problems (I am one of those people). In all likelihood they won't send you faulty hardware again, although hey, manufacturing problems do occur.

b) Wrong, sir! Wrong! Under section 37B of the contract signed by him, it states quite clearly that all offers shall become null and void if -- and you can read it for yourself in this photostatic copy -- "I, the undersigned, shall forfeit all rights, privileges, and licenses herein and herein contained," et cetera, et cetera... "Fax mentis incendium gloria cultum," et cetera, et cetera... "Memo bis punitor delicatum"! It's all there, black and white, clear as crystal! You stole fizzy lifting drinks! You bumped into the ceiling which now has to be washed and sterilized, so you get nothing! You lose! Good day sir!

[CENACHAINGANG54]

And in case you missed the memo, Harmonix did not do GH3 ACTIVISION DID!!! It was also Activisions decision not to make the Fender compatible with GH3 but the Gibson was suppose to be. So blame Activision on that one! As far as Harmonix goes. GOOD JOB GUYS YOU KICK A**. I am one of the people with some bad equioment, it is on the way to me, and I am sure it will be fixed SO STOP *****ING!!

[Emowii]

I agree entirely with the original poster's complaints, but I've got bad news for you.


With the number of apologists cruising these forums on a regular basis, it seems unlikely that Harmonix is going to see fit to fix many of these problems. You see, even when people come on here and speak the truth about the problems with Rock Band, the apologists want to forgive every single problem, and somehow try and defend the company that just accepted $170 from each of us.


Apologists are the very reason so many of these problems make it to market. When you have so many forgiving consumers out there, these companies figure it doesn't pay to raise the quality bar, and offer a reliable product. Look at loygal Xbox360 owners if you want ample proof of this. Some of these idiots will have 3 systems break on them and they'll still go out and buy new ones to replace their broken machines. lol

[Granteezy]

a) There are clearly different batches of hardware as there are people who haven't experienced any problems (I am one of those people). In all likelihood they won't send you faulty hardware again, although hey, manufacturing problems do occur.

b) Wrong, sir! Wrong! Under section 37B of the contract signed by him, it states quite clearly that all offers shall become null and void if -- and you can read it for yourself in this photostatic copy -- "I, the undersigned, shall forfeit all rights, privileges, and licenses herein and herein contained," et cetera, et cetera... "Fax mentis incendium gloria cultum," et cetera, et cetera... "Memo bis punitor delicatum"! It's all there, black and white, clear as crystal! You stole fizzy lifting drinks! You bumped into the ceiling which now has to be washed and sterilized, so you get nothing! You lose! Good day sir!

Fredricton rocks! (Unlike my RB Fender strat which won't strum down, or activate star power now.)

With respect to Harmonix being at fault, of course they are. Harmonix, MTV Games, AND EA should all be burning the midnight oil trying to fix this debacle of either poor design, or poor manufacturing quality control. Disagree with me? That's fine, but they all stand to lose here if they don't spin this the right way. Either way, I deserve to have a working guitar in my hands!

[Rock_Starman]

You do of course realize they've probably been off since wensday due to thanksgiving and are likely working on DLC is they're working.

[Granteezy]

You do of course realize they've probably been off since wensday due to thanksgiving and are likely working on DLC is they're working.

You better believe that someone at EA has lit a fire under the *** of whoever runs Harmonix to correct these issues with RB hardware, and I guarantee you there are Harmonix people that had their holiday cut short to deal with this.

[SmokaCola]

You guys I just stepped in the biggest pile of dog sh*t ever... Serial. Never wash that stuff off with hot water either, dear god does it stink.

[Ventura]

You do of course realize they've probably been off since wensday due to thanksgiving and are likely working on DLC is they're working.

I'd sincerely hope their emphasis right now is on fixing as much as they can, rather than working on DLC to get more money out of the public.

PS3 owners need some sort of GH2 or GH3 controller compatibility update. I hope that's one of their priorities, for their sake.

[Granteezy]

I'd sincerely hope their emphasis right now is on fixing as much as they can, rather than working on DLC to get more money out of the public.

PS3 owners need some sort of GH2 or GH3 controller compatibility update. I hope that's one of their priorities, for their sake.

I'm sure that EA has them on it, there's too much for EA to lose for them to let this slide, especially with this being a new IP.

[Sonofmogh]

You mean a few more days?

Given all the issues with the new guitars, and the fact that ps3 owners have no choice but to buy the bundle twice over if they actually want to fill out all four members of the band, I'd have expected a patch by now to add support for either the GH3 controller or the PS2 guitars when using a converter.

I can understand the GH3 one not working with Rock Band, what with it being a competing product and all that, but GH1 and GH2 were both developed by Harmonix aswell. Red Octane made the controllers, I can understand that, but this is a software issue.

The ball's in Harmonix's court, they're just not returning it.
I think the only logical answer is for me to start a console war...you should have bought a 360! :D ...lol I'm sorry, couldn't help myself.

[Emowii]

I'm sure that EA has them on it, there's too much for EA to lose for them to let this slide, especially with this being a new IP.

Eh, yeah, you'd think that would be the case. So far Harmonix's response has basically been a big "FU" to everyone though. Go figure.

[espher]

Eh, yeah, you'd think that would be the case. So far Harmonix's response has basically been a big "FU" to everyone though. Go figure.

Their response hasn't been provided probably because they're all off for a holiday.

EA's customer service's response has been prompt and speedy (and free) replacement.

Cry me a river.

[Emowii]

Their response hasn't been provided probably because they're all off for a holiday.

EA's customer service's response has been prompt and speedy (and free) replacement.

Cry me a river.

Are you kidding? I've already seen two responses last week about the GH3 issue. Both times it was a Harmonix employee saying "Oh well, not our problem that the GH3 controller doesn't work with our game".

How do you consider that "no response"? It seemed pretty clear to everyone else.

[Granteezy]

Eh, yeah, you'd think that would be the case. So far Harmonix's response has basically been a big "FU" to everyone though. Go figure.

Have they officially released a press release pertaining to the guitars yet? I assume that they're currently trying to pinpoint what exactly is causing the defective guitars before they acknowledge the issue without a course of action, which would generate quite a bit more of a stir if you ask me.

[espher]

Are you kidding? I've already seen two responses last week about the GH3 issue. Both times it was a Harmonix employee saying "Oh well, not our problem that the GH3 controller doesn't work with our game".

How do you consider that "no response"? It seemed pretty clear to everyone else.

Oh, I must have missed that. My bad. All I saw was communication from EA talking about controllers that weren't made by EA/Harmonix/Whatever, and the one stating that they're willing to work with manufacturers who want their peripherals to be compatible with Rock Band, meaning Red Octane has to want that to happen.

That being said, it may be a problem for them, but it's not their problem. Small difference. :p

[Church0070]

Ok, this is aimed at the original poster

A) your first problem is you bought the PS3......which has no outstanding games i can't get on my cheaper console which has a 4 yr warranty......i could go on but no need
B) you own a PS3 and are complaing about how you dont have the GH2 or GH guitar converter and are mad at harmonix for it.....I suggest to get mad at Red Octane the CREATOR of said guitars
C) you bought a PS3

Those are your 3 problems

[drno830]

I suggest everyone ignore the above post just to prevent a console war.

[Church0070]

I'm not trying to start a console war my point is he's on the wrong forums he needs to go annoy Red Octane to make a converter



and if he had a 360 he could use the X-plorer, like I am while waiting for my replacement

[drno830]

Thinking of what you said church:
Has anyone tried to use the explorer with the PS3? It is a long shot to work, but hey, it could happen

[MF-PO'd]

I'm not trying to start a console war my point is he's on the wrong forums he needs to go annoy Red Octane to make a converter



and if he had a 360 he could use the X-plorer, like I am while waiting for my replacement

Clearly, you ARE trying to start a console war because you're bashing the PS3. That was the point of your other post.

I could state that the 360 is built like a cheap suit and needs frequent repairs just to function, but I'll refrain. Let's stay on topic.

[TheHorde]

a) There are clearly different batches of hardware as there are people who haven't experienced any problems (I am one of those people). In all likelihood they won't send you faulty hardware again, although hey, manufacturing problems do occur.

b) Wrong, sir! Wrong! Under section 37B of the contract signed by him, it states quite clearly that all offers shall become null and void if -- and you can read it for yourself in this photostatic copy -- "I, the undersigned, shall forfeit all rights, privileges, and licenses herein and herein contained," et cetera, et cetera... "Fax mentis incendium gloria cultum," et cetera, et cetera... "Memo bis punitor delicatum"! It's all there, black and white, clear as crystal! You stole fizzy lifting drinks! You bumped into the ceiling which now has to be washed and sterilized, so you get nothing! You lose! Good day sir!




Awesome quoting willy wonka ^_^

[espher]

Awesome quoting willy wonka ^_^


I am very fond of that line. (http://obiwonka.ytmnd.com/)

[TreoRock_]

The problem with Xbox 360 users is that they think everybody should buy one because it is the greatest thing on earth which is wrong. I love my PS3 and the fact that there are some guitar issues doesnt mean that the PS3 sucks. Chill Xbox fan boy there is no need to pick fights here.

[mohkilla]

The problem with Xbox 360 users is that they think everybody should buy one because it is the greatest thing on earth which is wrong. I love my PS3 and the fact that there are some guitar issues doesnt mean that the PS3 sucks. Chill Xbox fan boy there is no need to pick fights here.

no buddy, im sorry about this console war being sparked up but...

PS3 really does suck, i mean... it has great graphix and blueray and all that
but xbox 360 graphix are very much alike... it uses dongle, xbox doesnt, PSN sux, Xbox live = awesome, way better Online Market place than Ps3's store little bit of games for ps3, arsenal of games for 360 and way better exclusives too... and if im right aswell... u need an extender for four player? and xbox 360 doesnt.. and xbox's wireless is way better aswell

[ModernDayDruid]

I am very fond of that line. (http://obiwonka.ytmnd.com/)

Ditto.

Lastly, I'm not having any problems with any of my Rock Band intruments. I would never assume that hardware that is licensed to another game would work with my game, so I'm entirely happy.

Harmonix created Guitar Hero and sold the rights. Harmonix has no reason to make Rock Band backwards compatible with what is now another companies product. Lucky for me, I bought RB for the 360 (I also own a PS3) and the guitar from GH3 works fine. But if it didn't? I'd never go on a public forum and ***** about it.

[Se7enLawliet]

Welcome to the forum. I would give them a few days before demanding answers to all the "bad press", finger pointing, and side stepping. You know, it was Thanksgiving a couple days ago.

Who cares they're Canadians. Canadians don't celebrate thanksgiving.

[Goldfoot]

and if im right aswell... u need an extender for four player? and xbox 360 doesnt.. and xbox's wireless is way better aswell

If by extender you mean USB hub, then you are right about the first part, but the Xbox needs it too unless you have a wireless guitar controller. Unless that one doesn't work, which I don't know because we've been using the Explorer.

Anyway, this is not the place for a console war and you are continuing to bash the system. The fact remains that this is not the place to do that so you really should just stop.

[JackBNimble]

For all you 360 users.You guys bash us PS3ers for what ever reason I really dont care!But most of us find it funny that the LP and the XPLORER seem to work fine with RB.The fact is if the LP and Xplorer were not compatable with RB you 360 guys would be singing a different tune.Tell me, can you use your regular controller if you wanted to ,to play RB?

ACTIVISION/RO dont give a sh!t if anyone uses the LP on RB.They just dont want the Strat being used with GH3.So whats the diff?Why is the LP and the Xplorer (or SG for Ps3) compatable with RB on the 360 and not the PS3?

I am sure the controller issue problem is on RB side of things.It's most likely a software issue.We have even be locked out of even using the sixaxis controller.The LP functions exactly the same way as the sixaxis does on RB!So what the F.CK

This would not be an issue if the Strat didn't have so many problems.But you 360 guys have spare guitars that we Ps3ers should be able to use as well but don't get to.I believe HMX has locked Ps3ers out from using these other controls on RB.

I find that most of HMX AssKissers are 360 users.At least you F.ckers have the RING OF DEATH to look forward to!:D:D

[TreoRock_]

no buddy, im sorry about this console war being sparked up but...

PS3 really does suck, i mean... it has great graphix and blueray and all that
but xbox 360 graphix are very much alike... it uses dongle, xbox doesnt, PSN sux, Xbox live = awesome, way better Online Market place than Ps3's store little bit of games for ps3, arsenal of games for 360 and way better exclusives too... and if im right aswell... u need an extender for four player? and xbox 360 doesnt.. and xbox's wireless is way better aswell

Check this out!! My boss XBOX 360 broke 3 days before Thanksgiving and guess what? He was planning on doing some serious gaming during that week LOL Now that really sucks and having a gaming system like the 360 that will be suddenly broken is just plain stupid. I don't know if your 360 has already died at least once, but watch your words when you insult PS3 users because it might make your 360 suddenly DIE..!!!

[Ventura]

I think the only logical answer is for me to start a console war...you should have bought a 360! :D ...lol I'm sorry, couldn't help myself.

I've already got a 360 mate (have both), but I went for Rock Band on the PS3 because I'm impatient and only the PS3 is region free for games. I'd never have picked the PS3 version over the 360 version otherwise, no way.

[Credge]

The console war is stupid. It boils down to exclusives, and it is as simple as that. If you enjoy Halo, get a 360. If you like Tekken, get a PS3. This, of course, is a very limited example, however, this is the case. The differences between the 360 and PS3 are so minuscule that any argument for or against them turn into a true test of ones fanboyism.

Currently, I have a Wii simply for the exclusives and the control. I don't care about graphics, I don't care about being able to play HD movies, I simply care about the exclusives and the control. That is, with my Wii.

However, I want to be able to watch movies on my new HD-TV in... HD. So this boils down to two things.

1. Me getting either an HD-DVD player or blueray player.

2. Getting a 360 or PS3.

Since I enjoy games, the choice is fairly obvious. So, since I want to watch movies and play games, which would I pick? Well, the PS3 is cheaper, that is, for watching movies and playing games by about $60... roughly the cost of a game. Further, there isn't, nor has there ever been, a single X-Box game I have enjoyed aside from DoA... which isn't enough to get a 360 for, especially at the added cost.

Further, the 'red ring of death' is something that I want to stay away from. I don't want a console I have to return if it breaks. Since I've not heard anything about PS3's breaking... yeah, I'm going to lean towards it.

So, to summarize, if I were looking for a next-gen console and I didn't care about movies, I'd get a 360. Since I do care about movies, and that the cheapest 360+HD-DVD player for the 360 nets up to about $460 (give or take two dollars) while the chepest PS3 with a blueray player costs $400, the choice is very obvious.

[MF-PO'd]

Further, the 'red ring of death' is something that I want to stay away from. I don't want a console I have to return if it breaks. Since I've not heard anything about PS3's breaking... yeah, I'm going to lean towards it.

That's the bottom line of all bottom lines for me. I'm not buying a system with a defect rate over 30%. That's just deplorable that they haven't even been able to fix that. Their only solution is to extend the warranty. I'm sure the system is great when it's working, but I will never purchase something built so shoddily.

PS3 failure rate: Under 1%. It has been put through extreme tests, and the thing performs like a beast. Sony, despites their flaws, know how to build hardware.

[BobsRevenge]

no buddy, im sorry about this console war being sparked up but...

PS3 really does suck, i mean... it has great graphix and blueray and all that
but xbox 360 graphix are very much alike... it uses dongle, xbox doesnt, PSN sux, Xbox live = awesome, way better Online Market place than Ps3's store little bit of games for ps3, arsenal of games for 360 and way better exclusives too... and if im right aswell... u need an extender for four player? and xbox 360 doesnt.. and xbox's wireless is way better aswell

Jesus christ, what's your problem dude? Who gives a **** about a dongle? The PSN is perfectly fine (once they add XMB access during games it'll be awesome) and allows for something like UT3 or an MMORPG to be released on it with less issues since it is closer to a PC in how it works. The PS3's online market place is good for games and such. Doesn't have movies yet, but I wouldn't take advantage of that anyways. The PSN games are awesome by the way. I wouldn't dog on them, because Sony is building quite a library.

The PS3 has better exclusives in my mind. I simply could not go without Metal Gear Solid 4, the next game by the guys behind Ico and Shadow of the Colossus, Final Fantasy XIII, or God of War 3. I love games like Warhawk, Uncharted, Resistance, Ratchet & Clank, and Heavenly Sword. I never liked the Halo series (I owned an XBox). The only exclusives that I care about for the 360 are Mass Effect and Fable 2. The rest I can get for my computer, which I prefer to game on over any console anyways. Jade Empire and Fable both came out for the computer eventually, so ME and Fable 2 probably will also.

Seriously, don't do this console war thing. It comes down to what features you care about and what games you want. The PS3 just makes more sense for me. It also breaks less. ;)

[batsu336]

I am frustrated, I am not going to do any research on possible reasons for this problem, I am just going to make a post on the internet and blame Harmonix.


Translation: I don't care who's fault it is, I'm just gonna blame the first person that comes to mind because I'm too lazy or stubborn to actually look into it and find out what's going on.

....and we wonder why it is so hard to get accurate information on the internet...

[Matsuiichi]

I have to agree with Credge. The console war is absolutely stupid and pointless. I own all three consoles (PS3, Wii, and Xbox 360).

While it does have to do with exclusives, what do you really have to look forward to? A bunch of mediocre exclusives, or a few amazing ones? Pick which ones you like, but don't worship one system and bash another.

Also, if you want a system that is both a gaming platform and HD movie player, then PS3 is for you. If you just want a lot of games, get a 360. Whatever, it's not my problem.

But I will choose the PS3 over the 360 any day. Why?
-Blu-Ray player built in gives me games and HD movies (after I get my HDTV this weekend!)
-Sacrifice of quantity for quality (its exclusives are wonderful)
-The titles are more worth the money if you don't just immediately dismiss them
-Built in Hard Disk Drive with higher capacity potential for content (160GB = Amazing)
-High-spec version can be used for storing games, video, photos, games, and other data
-High-speed HD web browsing (it DOES make a difference)
-Reliable network (at least from what I've seen)
-CURING CANCER (folding@home is interesting, and helps us understand diseases on the protein level)

And if I needed another reason to trust them...


I don't trust any appliance with a malfunction signal. If the game console needs a way to tell you it's broken, then it's not reliable enough. Three red lights? Not doing it for me, sorry.

[GHudston]

Translation: I don't care who's fault it is, I'm just gonna blame the first person that comes to mind because I'm too lazy or stubborn to actually look into it and find out what's going on.

....and we wonder why it is so hard to get accurate information on the internet...

*psst* I think that may have been sarcasm.

[J-Rock]

Who cares they're Canadians. Canadians don't celebrate thanksgiving.
Hey, we do celebrate Thanksgiving. Don't blame us if you celebrate it one month late.:D

[Theuke]

Nicely done guys. Way to sink the thread by starting and replying to a stupid console argument no one here gives a **** about.

If there were a few devs foolish enough to read this forum to take the temperature, this is a good way to drive them away fast.

Keep it up. You too can start and perpetuate off-topic console *****fests and make this forum that much more irrelevant. One thread at a time...

[Church0070]

I have to agree with Credge. The console war is absolutely stupid and pointless. I own all three consoles (PS3, Wii, and Xbox 360).

While it does have to do with exclusives, what do you really have to look forward to? A bunch of mediocre exclusives, or a few amazing ones? Pick which ones you like, but don't worship one system and bash another.

Also, if you want a system that is both a gaming platform and HD movie player, then PS3 is for you. If you just want a lot of games, get a 360. Whatever, it's not my problem.

But I will choose the PS3 over the 360 any day. Why?
-Blu-Ray player built in gives me games and HD movies (after I get my HDTV this weekend!)
-Sacrifice of quantity for quality (its exclusives are wonderful)
-The titles are more worth the money if you don't just immediately dismiss them
-Built in Hard Disk Drive with higher capacity potential for content (160GB = Amazing)
-High-spec version can be used for storing games, video, photos, games, and other data
-High-speed HD web browsing (it DOES make a difference)
-Reliable network (at least from what I've seen)
-CURING CANCER (folding@home is interesting, and helps us understand diseases on the protein level)

And if I needed another reason to trust them...


I don't trust any appliance with a malfunction signal. If the game console needs a way to tell you it's broken, then it's not reliable enough. Three red lights? Not doing it for me, sorry.


Halo 3, RockBand guitar backwards compatability, Mass Effect, Fable 2, GOW2 (inevidable), Halo Wars, Too Human, Dead Rising, Dead or Alive.

why 360 is better (oh and Red Ring bashers i've had my 360 for a year and a half no red ring if i get one i send it back to microsoft big deal)

and whoever said PS3 is cheaper needs to go check what 2 consoles are available for 249.99 (wii and 360 arcade)

I also own a wii and I love it

[azcolor]

I agree entirely with the original poster's complaints, but I've got bad news for you.


With the number of apologists cruising these forums on a regular basis, it seems unlikely that Harmonix is going to see fit to fix many of these problems. You see, even when people come on here and speak the truth about the problems with Rock Band, the apologists want to forgive every single problem, and somehow try and defend the company that just accepted $170 from each of us.


Apologists are the very reason so many of these problems make it to market. When you have so many forgiving consumers out there, these companies figure it doesn't pay to raise the quality bar, and offer a reliable product. Look at loygal Xbox360 owners if you want ample proof of this. Some of these idiots will have 3 systems break on them and they'll still go out and buy new ones to replace their broken machines. lol

I have been arguing your same points in the thread titled Is This Legal?

Hats off to you.

Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so.

Douglas Adams

[spud23507]

Harmonix / EA,
First off - the game is awesome (in concept); YOU have made it unplayable in practice.

Any plans to fix the faulty hardware you shipped with your game? Any plans to allow the other guitars YOU MADE for GH2/3 function with the PS3?

All I have seen is finger pointing and side stepping. I hope the bad press catches up with you and you get your act together. Why not take some initiative and help out the people that support you by purchasing your hardware/software?

You people *****ing about the guitars made for GH2/3 not working with the PS3 are stupid. The company that made the guitars for GH2/ and 3 is Red Octane, and they are now owned by Activision. Harmonix had nothing to do with the manufacture of the guitars.

[Matsuiichi]

Halo 3, RockBand guitar backwards compatability, Mass Effect, Fable 2, GOW2 (inevidable), Halo Wars, Too Human, Dead Rising, Dead or Alive.

why 360 is better (oh and Red Ring bashers i've had my 360 for a year and a half no red ring if i get one i send it back to microsoft big deal)

and whoever said PS3 is cheaper needs to go check what 2 consoles are available for 249.99 (wii and 360 arcade)

I also own a wii and I love it


Halo 3 is overhyped (It's just average in the scheme of things), Rock Band compatibility isn't THAT much of a problem when you look at it because patience is key, Halo Wars is a Strategy game cash in on an overhyped game. Gears of War is the only one I actually found myself wanting to play.
(I found all the secondary fires of all the weapons in Resistance: Fall of Man to be more revolutionary than a single thing in the Halo series.)

To the Red Ring Defenders: If you actually hear enough about the Red Ring of Death so there's a name for it, you know there's a problem you should be leery about when choosing a console.

And PS3 is cheaper on the condition that you give both the exact same equivalent features:
Arcade Version Console, HD DVD player, Wireless internet Receiver, Hard Disk drive (20GB):
You're already looking at the system costing MORE to get the equivalent features out of the box. I don't care about the games right off, you're actually paying more to get all the features it should have had---and this is all before you're sucked into Xbox Live Gold Membership. (And come on, 360, PS3 and Wii---EVEN Wii has a net browser. Come on, step up!)

Now, I'm only stating fact. I don't hate the 360, I only favor the PS3. Besides, the dev kits for PS3 has gone down, so I wouldn't be surprised if we get more games for PS3. I want a fully featured console over something that can only play games, or at least, makes it seem like that's all it does. I have a 360, But I only have two games for it. I have eight PS3 games, though.

Not to mention, I'm also using it as a hub for my photos, music, movies, and NOW with 2.0, I can access all that content anywhere in the world from my PSP. I'd be impressed if Microsoft could let you access your Xbox content remotely.

As a gaming system, the PS3 is on par with 360 (a lot of those exclusives you're talking about don't appeal to everyone, as you'd like to think---and some exclusives just aren't that great), but PS3 shines with its other features that Microsoft shouldn't make you pay for.

I believe brand loyalty is clouding your judgment.

[Lazerus101]

Doth my nose detect the acrid stench of fanbois?

Console wars amuse me no end. Both sides putting forward their "case" and only one thing ever being proven. That the participants are all ******ed.
I personally go where the games go, At the moment I have a PC, DS, PSP and 360. Simply because I see no reason to pop £300 on a PS3 yet, there just arent enough worthy games on it yet. Same goes for the Wii, that may change when Brawl comes out. I dont know. I have tried all of the PS3 "Exclusives" and the only one I really enjoyed was Ratchet & Clank. But as soon as it gets a few more games out on it and maybe drops in price a little I will get one, if only for the Blu-Ray.

Back on topic.

Right now I am just hoping they sort out the various niggles and hardware faults before Rock Band ships to us here in the UK.
I suppose in some ways its nice having you lot over there Beta test for us. :p

[Hanover]

Yeah! Cut their holiday short! That'll show 'em! I think they should ban all lunch breaks and make them work overtime too! No bathroom breaks!

And above all...

NO RECESS!


You better believe that someone at EA has lit a fire under the *** of whoever runs Harmonix to correct these issues with RB hardware, and I guarantee you there are Harmonix people that had their holiday cut short to deal with this.

[visualdeity]

Halo 3, RockBand guitar backwards compatability, Mass Effect, Fable 2, GOW2 (inevidable), Halo Wars, Too Human, Dead Rising, Dead or Alive.

why 360 is better (oh and Red Ring bashers i've had my 360 for a year and a half no red ring if i get one i send it back to microsoft big deal)

and whoever said PS3 is cheaper needs to go check what 2 consoles are available for 249.99 (wii and 360 arcade)

I also own a wii and I love it

Of those exclusives, Halo 3, Mass Effect, and Fable 2 are the only really good ones.

Also, the cheap 360 is not, nor has it ever been, a valid price point to bring up in a price comparison. Minimum price to get a 360 is $350, anything less and you have a crappy console with no hard drive (conveniently, the price for a PS3 is $400 nowadays, albeit with backwards-compatibility issues). There's less than no excuse for a console to not have internal storage in this day and age (even the Wii has it, FFS).

I have all the consoles. I love all of them, including the 360, but your arguments for the 360 are rather stupid. Not to mention, you're the one dumb enough to derail this thread into a console war. If you want to start a fscking console war, do it in a new thread.