Rock Band leaves Wii out in the cold?

[sniper3134]

I dont understand why a wii version of rock band hasnt been released....or at least announced. i'd much rather buy this game than Guitar Hero 3. Rock Band would earn SOOO much money on the wii, the INTERACTIVE SYSTEM. W/e their loss

[espher]

I dont understand why a wii version of rock band hasnt been released....or at lease announced. i'd much rather buy this game than Guitar Hero 3. I mean...WTF:confused:

HAY THERE I'M AN SD CARD AND THE LARGEST AMOUNT OF DATA STORAGE AVAILABLE ON THE WII WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

ALSO MY ONLINE INTERFACE IS OUTCLASSED BY TYPICAL BBS SOFTWARE FROM THE EARLY TO MID 90S YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH.

+++

NO CARRIER

[cuBERT]

You would look stupid playing RockBand on the WII.

Picture it....

[sniper3134]

Lol bit of a dick?

[Quinarvy]

I dont understand why a wii version of rock band hasnt been released....or at least announced. i'd much rather buy this game than Guitar Hero 3. Rock Band would earn SOOO much money on the wii, the INTERACTIVE SYSTEM. W/e their loss

It's cause HMX is tired of seeing Wii threads every five minutes, I swear thats the reason.

[sniper3134]

Ok. Wtf is all this hostility. lmao.

[espher]

Lol bit of a dick?

Just a bit.

I'm also a Wii60 owner, so I have the minigame-induced ADD of a Wii owner and the pissy attitude of a 360 owner.

The 'serious answer' is the lack of storage and the online interface, as well as the lack of ease porting a PS3/360 title to the Wii. Once the PS2 port is out, that may eventually be ported to the Wii.

[sniper3134]

I'll probably just end up buying the ps2 package. Kinda pathetic...ps2 gets priority over the next-gen wii lol.

[espher]

I'll probably just end up buying the ps2 package. Kinda pathetic...ps2 gets priority over the next-gen wii lol.

It has a larger install base. *shrug*

[Quinarvy]

Ok. Wtf is all this hostility. lmao.

It's not at you, its at the fact theres a million threads on this topic

Xzyliac summed up best with this in the noob survival thread.


PT: Mommy got me a Wii. Is Rock Band available for Wii?
FA: Alex has said "Absolutely!" That's basically it. It is coming but is farther off that PS3 or 360. Wii owners need to hold out for next year and see what more Harmonix has to say.

PT: Can I use my Mii?
FA: Did you not just read the first Wii related question? What are you iliterate? Why am I even wasting me time on you PEOPLE!?! GOD DAMMIT!!!......Okay had a little episode. Sorry. Okay we don't know quite yet.

[Rock_Starman]

I'll probably just end up buying the ps2 package. Kinda pathetic...ps2 gets priority over the next-gen wii lol.

That's the problem. The Wii isn't next-gen. It's like a .5 gen (if that) above the PS2 so it gets PS2 ports and of coruse the already mentioned half assed online and storage space.

[sniper3134]

Yea but the sad thing is ...its owning the 360 and PS3 in sales. LOL

[Zookey]

Yea but the sad thing is ...its owning the 360 and PS3 in sales. LOL

Want to get technical on that though?

The CEO of Konami has gone on record with his belief that upwards 70% of Wii's aren't being played---people play it for a month then the novelty wears out. Even our local GameStop is telling people that--I over heard a manager tell a customer 'The only people who want Wiis haven't played them yet'

Not to bash on the Wii--I know I will get one for Brawl (had one at launch, sold it after I got bored)--but how many WiiSports players will play anything else? Little to none---a proof in point is that Zak and Wiki game--from what I heard it is a good game but it tanked commercially because the Wii demographic, mostly, is more interested in minigame compilations than full blown games---and to put a 170 dollar bundle game on a system like that is probably a big risk, especially since no 3rd parties have made money on Wii (only Nintendo has).

[sniper3134]

Ok first of all , konami is horrible. metal gear is overrated, ddr is just ...no, YUGIOH nuf said. Second, dont use bs stats....70% of wiis not being played.??!? Ok heres a real stat. Nintendo has triple Konami's revenue. 7.8 bill a year compared to konami's 2.3bill per year. Activision shouldnt be going by THE CEO OF KONAMI's word... they should be going by the numbers...and in this case , the numbers favor nintendo.

[Zookey]

Ok first of all , konami is horrible. metal gear is overrated, ddr is just ...no, YUGIOH nuf said. Second, dont use bs stats....70% of wiis not being played.??!? Ok heres a real stat. Nintendo has triple Konami's revenue. 7.8 bill a year compared to konami's 2.3bill per year. Activision shouldnt be going by THE CEO OF KONAMI's word... they should be going by the numbers...and in this case , the numbers favor nintendo.

Thats just opinion dude--granted I am not a big Metal Gear fan either (sorry, DDR opened the doors for games like Rock Band and I hope DDR has continued success---and Silent Hill rules). Whether you believe that stat or not, a stat all 3rd parties, including Activison, believe (from first hand experience) is that the only people making money on the Wii is Nintendo. Games like Zak and Wiki (well done games from what I have heard) don't do well unless they are produced by Nintendo and feature Nintendo elements and/or characters. So, if you like Zelda, Mario and Smash Bros--then it might be enough-----however if I had to pick one console the Wii would not make the cut at all--the only reason I want one is Smash Bros---your hardcore gamers consider the Wii a secondary console (Wii60 or PSWii) at best and Rock Band is primarily aimed at hardcore gamers---the kind of people Nintendogs and WiiSports jives with are either

A) Casual gamers, only a small portion of whom would currently be interested in Rock Band

B) Hardcore gamers who already own one of the other platforms RB is out on

Sad but true, and this is a precedent Nintendo set with both the DS and Wii by pushing mainly puzzle/kiddie/non-hardcore games. I think the DS has a lot of unrealized potential, but to realize it would be to make a 'hardcore' game and that doesn't appear to be able to make money on the DS---with the Wii, some good ideas that aren't followed through enough (I am talking about like the nunchuck and classic controller--both of which could have been worked a little more--the remote is basically fine cept it needs an internal battery) hold it back as well as underpowered components--not to mention the HDD issue.

Sony is really on to something with their 'Game 3.0 and Emergent Gameplay' mantra of user-created content (Little Big Planet for instance)---which is why I think such features as Rock Band's ability to create a character will become even more important (plus, if the rumors are true, you will be able to order an action figure of your Rock Band character--more an example of emergent gameplay). I think Game 3.0 will define this generation and we are already starting to see it (people freaking over LBP, Smash Bros including a level editor, RB's character creation) but, the thing is, with no HDD, no ability to add an HDD at present and an online system that is ultra painful to use Nintendo's ability to take advantage of this wave of games that support user creativity will be crippled. Microsoft can jump on the wagon, never mind that Sony started it (on a console end, on PC in one shape or another it has happened before) there will be money to be made and the 360 has access to a hard drive and a decent online structure---and since Sony started it we can easily assume the PS3 will benefit (duh hehe), but the Wii's longevity will be cut short soon just because it is such a closed system in terms of storage, hardware ability and online presence. Within 5 years Nintendo will have to play catch-up---never mind they are having huge sales right now--that will come back to bite them if the trend continues that the only games making money are Nintendo-made----if they scare away big 3rd parties they are finished---it is a sad fact but that is what killed the DreamCast (EA refused to support Sega)-----like I said I don't mean to rip on the Wii, but it is a half-way-gen system in a lot of ways and that is why I think Rock Band is doing fine where it is at----actually I would be interested to see sales of Guitar Hero 3 Wii---I remember hearing less-than-good predictions about it and one analyst (granted, don't always believe analysts) said that GH3 would be the game that is either the final 3rd Party Wii game or the first 3rd Party Wii game to make money--that it was do or die at that point because 3rd party publishers were getting frustrated.

[sniper3134]

Thats just opinion dude--granted I am not a big Metal Gear fan either (sorry, DDR opened the doors for games like Rock Band and I hope DDR has continued success---and Silent Hill rules). Whether you believe that stat or not, a stat all 3rd parties, including Activison, believe (from first hand experience) is that the only people making money on the Wii is Nintendo. Games like Zak and Wiki (well done games from what I have heard) don't do well unless they are produced by Nintendo and feature Nintendo elements and/or characters. So, if you like Zelda, Mario and Smash Bros--then it might be enough-----however if I had to pick one console the Wii would not make the cut at all--the only reason I want one is Smash Bros---your hardcore gamers consider the Wii a secondary console (Wii60 or PSWii) at best and Rock Band is primarily aimed at hardcore gamers---the kind of people Nintendogs and WiiSports jives with are either

A) Casual gamers, only a small portion of whom would currently be interested in Rock Band

B) Hardcore gamers who already own one of the other platforms RB is out on

Sad but true, and this is a precedent Nintendo set with both the DS and Wii by pushing mainly puzzle/kiddie/non-hardcore games. I think the DS has a lot of unrealized potential, but to realize it would be to make a 'hardcore' game and that doesn't appear to be able to make money on the DS---with the Wii, some good ideas that aren't followed through enough (I am talking about like the nunchuck and classic controller--both of which could have been worked a little more--the remote is basically fine cept it needs an internal battery) hold it back as well as underpowered components--not to mention the HDD issue.

Sony is really on to something with their 'Game 3.0 and Emergent Gameplay' mantra of user-created content (Little Big Planet for instance)---which is why I think such features as Rock Band's ability to create a character will become even more important (plus, if the rumors are true, you will be able to order an action figure of your Rock Band character--more an example of emergent gameplay). I think Game 3.0 will define this generation and we are already starting to see it (people freaking over LBP, Smash Bros including a level editor, RB's character creation) but, the thing is, with no HDD, no ability to add an HDD at present and an online system that is ultra painful to use Nintendo's ability to take advantage of this wave of games that support user creativity will be crippled. Microsoft can jump on the wagon, never mind that Sony started it (on a console end, on PC in one shape or another it has happened before) there will be money to be made and the 360 has access to a hard drive and a decent online structure---and since Sony started it we can easily assume the PS3 will benefit (duh hehe), but the Wii's longevity will be cut short soon just because it is such a closed system in terms of storage, hardware ability and online presence. Within 5 years Nintendo will have to play catch-up---never mind they are having huge sales right now--that will come back to bite them if the trend continues that the only games making money are Nintendo-made----if they scare away big 3rd parties they are finished---it is a sad fact but that is what killed the DreamCast (EA refused to support Sega)-----like I said I don't mean to rip on the Wii, but it is a half-way-gen system in a lot of ways and that is why I think Rock Band is doing fine where it is at----actually I would be interested to see sales of Guitar Hero 3 Wii---I remember hearing less-than-good predictions about it and one analyst (granted, don't always believe analysts) said that GH3 would be the game that is either the final 3rd Party Wii game or the first 3rd Party Wii game to make money--that it was do or die at that point because 3rd party publishers were getting frustrated.

Ok i forgot silent hill, good series but thats about it.

A) Casual gamers, only a small portion of whom would currently be interested in Rock Band

B) Hardcore gamers who already own one of the other platforms RB is out on

WTF ARE YOU ON. Rock Band is for hardcore gamers?!? lmao. Just LMAO.

Read the principles activision was built on.

"Harmonix was founded in 1995 by Alex Rigopulos (CEO) and Eran Egozy (CTO), who met while working in the computer music group at the MIT Media Laboratory. Alex and Eran formed Harmonix initially not to develop videogames, but rather to create new ways for non-musicians to experience the unique joy that comes from making music. Before developing videogames, the company created interactive music attractions for theme parks, including Disney's Epcot Center, and other location-based entertainment venues. ?

I dont see anything in there about rock band being hardcore gamer exclusive...in fact it's quite the opposite.

[Zookey]

Go ask the old people in the Wii commercial if they will play Rock Band. Nuff said.

Music games generally are for more hardcore gamers--your casual gamers (at least ones I see) keep making the 'I don't have corridnation' excuse and don't play---I don't know ANYBODY who played Guitar Hero or DDR that wasn't a hardcore gamer. There is a WIDE gap between casual gamer and non-musician--just because Harmonix created something more for everyone in the past doesn't mean all their products are aimed at all people of all levels---heck if they wanted a wider range of casual gamers they'd probably have went with more pop music since rock music technically isn't listened to by everybody and could possibly lessen the scope of the audience--granted a lot of people listen to Rock but they could have made an easier and more generic game (both in genre types and difficulty) if they wanted mainly casual gamers.

[sniper3134]

Music games HARDCORE?? Maybe for the morons who cant play instruments. Any one who takes guitar hero or rock band serious has issues. Its not a hardcore game lmfao...

Ask yourself

What would i rather be...hmmm rock star.....pop star....?
imagine that. POP BAND!!! ROCK OUT TO HANNAH MONTANA!!!! OH YEAH!!!!

[Quastor]

Music games HARDCORE?? Maybe for the morons who cant play instruments. Any one who takes guitar hero or rock band serious has issues. Its not a hardcore game lmfao...


Why don't you go visit the scorehero forums, then come back to us and revise your comment.

[Zookey]

Music games HARDCORE?? Maybe for the morons who cant play instruments. Any one who takes guitar hero or rock band serious has issues. Its not a hardcore game lmfao...

Ask yourself

What would i rather be...hmmm rock star.....pop star....?
imagine that. POP BAND!!! ROCK OUT TO HANNAH MONTANA!!!! OH YEAH!!!!

Hehe your using insults and the like just proves my point :-) When people can't make a respectable and logic based argument they reach for the insults.

I will bet you 1 of 2 things

A) DDR on Wii won't sell

B) If it sells, one of the big things pushing it is Konami probably watered it down because people who game exclusively on Wii aren't hardcore gamers---and lets see a non hardcore gamer stay into DDR for a long time--only hardcore gamers do things like try and get better and join up on sites such as this one or DDRFreak

and you can switch DDR out for any music based game in there almost :-) Granted some are aimed at different crowds but Rock Band doesn't seem to fit that bill to me

Oh well, done with this thread, if it is going to become a flame war what is the point?

[psyborg]

That's the problem. The Wii isn't next-gen. It's like a .5 gen (if that) above the PS2 so it gets PS2 ports and of coruse the already mentioned half assed online and storage space.

Just because it isn't HD doesnt mean its not next-gen. Next-gen may be about graphics but its also about new ways to play games. Motion controls like Zak + Wiki & superior aiming via IR like Metroid and Medal of Honor make the Wii next-gen. (and ofcourse the technicality that its sits in the 7th generation of consoles)



Want to get technical on that though?

The CEO of Konami has gone on record with his belief that upwards 70% of Wii's aren't being played---people play it for a month then the novelty wears out. Even our local GameStop is telling people that--I over heard a manager tell a customer 'The only people who want Wiis haven't played them yet'

Not to bash on the Wii--I know I will get one for Brawl (had one at launch, sold it after I got bored)--but how many WiiSports players will play anything else? Little to none---a proof in point is that Zak and Wiki game--from what I heard it is a good game but it tanked commercially because the Wii demographic, mostly, is more interested in minigame compilations than full blown games---and to put a 170 dollar bundle game on a system like that is probably a big risk, especially since no 3rd parties have made money on Wii (only Nintendo has).


Umm, Zak + Wiki is a really popular game on the Wii and everyone is nuts over it, the reason why its not selling well is because Capcom never really sent out very many copies.
Wii demographic only playing Wiisports why is Mario Galaxy(one of the highest rated games of all time) the best selling game on the Wii?

Third party games are also selling well on Wii. Look at Guitar Hero 3, Red Steel & RRR(crappy Ubisoft games but they made them a million each), Resident Evil 4, Resident Evil: Umbrella Chronicles and even Medal of Honor is doing decently.

Obviously there is a big casual demographic and third parties don't make as much as Nintendo but you are way overblowing it.

Regardless though RockBand is a perfect game to appeal to both the casual and hardcore demographic of the Wii, Guitar Hero 3 pretty much proves that. Online is available, it doesn't have to use friend codes and DLC could come when Wiiware is available.

I love how people wear their misconceptions like armor.

[Zookey]

Just because it isn't HD doesnt mean its not next-gen. Next-gen may be about graphics but its also about new ways to play games. Motion controls like Zak + Wiki & superior aiming via IR like Metroid and Medal of Honor make the Wii next-gen. (and ofcourse the technicality that its sits in the 7th generation of consoles)





Umm, Zak + Wiki is a really popular game on the Wii and everyone is nuts over it, the reason why its not selling well is because Capcom never really sent out very many copies.
Wii demographic only playing Wiisports why is Mario Galaxy(one of the highest rated games of all time) the best selling game on the Wii?

Third party games are also selling well on Wii. Look at Guitar Hero 3, Red Steel & RRR(crappy Ubisoft games but they made them a million each), Resident Evil 4, Resident Evil: Umbrella Chronicles and even Medal of Honor is doing decently.

Obviously there is a big casual demographic and third parties don't make as much as Nintendo but you are way overblowing it.

Regardless though RockBand is a perfect game to appeal to both the casual and hardcore demographic of the Wii, Guitar Hero 3 pretty much proves that. Online is available, it doesn't have to use friend codes and DLC could come when Wiiware is available.

I love how people wear their misconceptions like armor.

Everywhere I read says Zak and Wiki is tanking??? (yeah I know I said I was done with this thread...dammit)---I am NOT looking to bash on Wii---but I am upset at Nintendo's failings---I said that the only things that sell on Wii are Nintendo licenses and that includes Galaxy---and, like I said, I will be getting one for a Nintendo license (brawl)---I wish I had the links but I have read stuff on pages like IGN and Kotaku about 3rd parties getting shafted on Wii--granted part of it is most of them are trying to cash in on the mini game Wiisports ignited craze---

RedSteel sold? Man that is sad---that game depressed me so much--I wanted it to rule so bad but it sucked royal---Call of Duty 3 had nearly no features yet showed up Red Steel just by being playable. I am mad about Umbella Chronicles being a rail shooter--which, from a site I read, capcom did that because they thought it would appeal to the more casual demographic of the Wii--which sucks I would rather have RE4 gameplay but oh well.

For all the games you listed, do you have sales figures? Not saying you are wrong, just interested--and keep in mind that is up against 10 million + Wiis sold

I could be wrong but I will be shocked if DLC comes to Wii---think about it man no HDD no go----even if it does come the PS3 and 360 will get more just because they have the space--people are less likely to buy DLC with only half a gig of space because that half a gig has to hold the premium content of the best Virtual Console games, Wii Ware and DLC--which means if you make a DLC pack that is good but not Earth shattering phenomenal, you are screwed.

The biggest mover of Wiis is WiiSports, much like how the DS was moved by Nintendogs and Brain Age--nothing wrong with those titles but you have to remember the vast majority of people Nintendo marketed to (which, logic can tell us, is also the vast majority of those who bought) are either new gamers (still learning) or casual gamers. If they are are a hardcore gamer, they are going to own a DS with a PSP usually or a Wii with a 360 or PS3--even if you aren't in that group it is kind of hard to say that isn't true----so most people buying Rock Band wouldn't have a reason to get it on a Wii because

A) they already own a system it is on more than likely
B) that system has a HDD, which is important for DLC

Like I said, not ripping on the Wii and I will buy one--but lets say I had a Wii and RB was out for Wii--I will still get it for PS3 just because of the greater abilities. On that note I think the PS2 version won't be that great either because of crappy online and no HDD.

[sniper3134]

Galaxy sold 500k copies in its first week. Keep in mind thats only US based.

[schmitty]

And thats a Nintendo game. Proving Zookeys point that the only thing that sells on Wii's are Nintendo games.

[psyborg]

And thats a Nintendo game. Proving Zookeys point that the only thing that sells on Wii's are Nintendo games.

But it also contradicts his point that only Wiisports is being played on the system, and his point that the entire demographic is casual. Galaxy is not a casual game.

[psyborg]

Everywhere I read says Zak and Wiki is tanking??? (yeah I know I said I was done with this thread...dammit)---I am NOT looking to bash on Wii---but I am upset at Nintendo's failings---I said that the only things that sell on Wii are Nintendo licenses and that includes Galaxy---and, like I said, I will be getting one for a Nintendo license (brawl)---I wish I had the links but I have read stuff on pages like IGN and Kotaku about 3rd parties getting shafted on Wii--granted part of it is most of them are trying to cash in on the mini game Wiisports ignited craze---


I'm not saying thirdparties are flourishing on the Wii, but they are doing decent. Zak + wiki is tanking because its so hard to find. You can blame Capcom for that, there was a market for it, but Capcom didn't expect it to have one.



RedSteel sold? Man that is sad---that game depressed me so much--I wanted it to rule so bad but it sucked royal---Call of Duty 3 had nearly no features yet showed up Red Steel just by being playable. I am mad about Umbella Chronicles being a rail shooter--which, from a site I read, capcom did that because they thought it would appeal to the more casual demographic of the Wii--which sucks I would rather have RE4 gameplay but oh well.


I agree it is unfortanute that Red Steel was a letdown, thankfully, bigger and better FPSs have come out with amazing controls. The reasoning for the rail-shooting in RE may be stupid but the result is cool, rail-shooters rule(but thats a whole nother argument)



For all the games you listed, do you have sales figures? Not saying you are wrong, just interested--and keep in mind that is up against 10 million + Wiis sold


I could look up a couple articles on Red Steel, Galaxy, and RRR. The others I've only heard are doing well.
edit: here
http://kotaku.com/gaming/super-mario-galaxy/mario-galaxy-sells-500k-in-a-week-325276.php
http://wii.ign.com/articles/783/783826p1.html



I could be wrong but I will be shocked if DLC comes to Wii---think about it man no HDD no go----even if it does come the PS3 and 360 will get more just because they have the space--people are less likely to buy DLC with only half a gig of space because that half a gig has to hold the premium content of the best Virtual Console games, Wii Ware and DLC--which means if you make a DLC pack that is good but not Earth shattering phenomenal, you are screwed.


The songpacks can come with Wiiware, I honestly don't think people will mind temporarily deleting a couple n64 games for new Radiohead, Metalica etc. A bigger hardrive would be great, but there are ways around it. Not too mention theres always the PS2 version which I assume won't have any DLC? There are plenty of great songs on disc.



The biggest mover of Wiis is WiiSports, much like how the DS was moved by Nintendogs and Brain Age--nothing wrong with those titles but you have to remember the vast majority of people Nintendo marketed to (which, logic can tell us, is also the vast majority of those who bought) are either new gamers (still learning) or casual gamers. If they are are a hardcore gamer, they are going to own a DS with a PSP usually or a Wii with a 360 or PS3--even if you aren't in that group it is kind of hard to say that isn't true----so most people buying Rock Band wouldn't have a reason to get it on a Wii because

A) they already own a system it is on more than likely
B) that system has a HDD, which is important for DLC

Like I said, not ripping on the Wii and I will buy one--but lets say I had a Wii and RB was out for Wii--I will still get it for PS3 just because of the greater abilities. On that note I think the PS2 version won't be that great either because of crappy online and no HDD.


I agree with most of this but I do think your undestimating the casual gamers desire for RockBand, especially after GH3 wears thin.

[sniper3134]

red steel sold 1,000,000 copies worldwide.

best-selling games of October 2007, according to NPD Group


Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock (with guitar)--Xbox 360--383,000
Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock (with guitar)--Wii--286,000
Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock (with guitar)--PS2--271,000

I would also like to point out that wii-play is the #4 best selling game in america atm with over 2.5m games sold. thats behind halo 3 , madden, and guitar hero 2. So the buyers are there....3rd party developers just need to get their act together and put out some good games like capcom

[Zookey]

red steel sold 1,000,000 copies worldwide.

best-selling games of October 2007, according to NPD Group


Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock (with guitar)--Xbox 360--383,000
Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock (with guitar)--Wii--286,000
Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock (with guitar)--PS2--271,000

I would also like to point out that wii-play is the #4 best selling game in america atm with over 2.5m games sold. thats behind halo 3 , madden, and guitar hero 2. So the buyers are there....3rd party developers just need to get their act together and put out some good games like capcom

Man that is sad that RS can make it but not Zak and Wiki (again, I am running off of sites like Kotaku that said ZAW bombed)

WiiPlay is like WiiSports tho so not necessarily relevent to the arguement-----man tho all those GH3 sales are below what I would have thought----but then again that is just one month......

Still--you want RB get a 360 or PS3 (personally, may I suggest PS3 hehe!) because if RB is transferred tot he Wii it will have more in common with the PS2 version which means watered down

[Rock_Starman]

No it's not that it's not in HD. I don't even have a HDTV. PS2 isn't in HD either but GoW 2 and Valkyrie Profile 2 look better than most Wii games.

What are you doing on the Wii? Saving Princess Peach from Bowser for the 10 trillionth time? Saving Princess Zelda for the 10 billionth time? Doing whatever the hell Samus does in Metroid again? Still catching all the Pokemon? Killing zombies in 5th verision of RE 4? Mini game complation #20? Looking forward to your beatable with one button SSBM? Probably at least one of the above. Too bad something like Trauma Center didn't do good enough and I doubt No More Heroes will do any good either.

Can it deliver something like Mass Effect? Assassin's Creed? Heavenly Sword? Call of Duty 4? They all have nice graphics but they also all have well acted/voiced characters and cinematic presentation and the gameplay is damn good too. (Though ME is kinda buggy right now)

What about racing games? Can you see even the screws falling off your truck during a crash in Excite Truck like in Motorstorm? See every rain drop falling on your windshield in GT Pro Series like in PGR 4?

How's Tony Hawk Downhill Jam hold up to skate.? Big open world? Video recording and sharing?

How many SSX Blur tracks would it take to make something as big as one mountian in Amped?

Are you downloading anything besides old games like new content and expansion packs? Playing with 20-30 other people online? Have music and movies saved to your huge hard drive? Able to get patches for glitchy games? Got your own soundtrack?

No? Didn't think so.

It might be considered in with the 7th gen but at best it's 6.0 to 6.5 tech with a new control scheme.

[sniper3134]

You see i dont need "mind-blowing" graphics in order to appreciate a game. If i want the graphics of a 360 or ps3 i'll just buy a new pc.

[sniper3134]

its actually kinda funny. im looking at guitars and its actually cheaper to learn how to play actual guitar than buy rock band or guitar hero 3.

[mastergamer1231]

I'll probably just end up buying the ps2 package. Kinda pathetic...ps2 gets priority over the next-gen wii lol.
The reason y probally they did a ps2 version quicker is because they know the hardware better

[nicko68]

Why don't you go visit the scorehero forums, then come back to us and revise your comment.

Just because those guys take it to an extreme doesn't mean it's not a casual game. They're just obsessed with getting FC on every song. But I'm sorry, GH/RB is a casual type game; i.e. you don't have to invest a ton of time to "finish" it, you can just pick it up and play whenever. The Easy level is seriously easy enough for just anyone to fool around on it.

And you think the Wii is more of the same. What does the 360 have to offer? FPS after FPS. No thanks.

[espher]

As a Wii60 owner, I have to laugh at some of the fanboism in this thread.

[Quinarvy]

No it's not that it's not in HD. I don't even have a HDTV. PS2 isn't in HD either but GoW 2 and Valkyrie Profile 2 look better than most Wii games.

What are you doing on the Wii? Saving Princess Peach from Bowser for the 10 trillionth time? Saving Princess Zelda for the 10 billionth time? Doing whatever the hell Samus does in Metroid again? Still catching all the Pokemon? Killing zombies in 5th verision of RE 4? Mini game complation #20? Looking forward to your beatable with one button SSBM? Probably at least one of the above. Too bad something like Trauma Center didn't do good enough and I doubt No More Heroes will do any good either.

Can it deliver something like Mass Effect? Assassin's Creed? Heavenly Sword? Call of Duty 4? They all have nice graphics but they also all have well acted/voiced characters and cinematic presentation and the gameplay is damn good too. (Though ME is kinda buggy right now)

What about racing games? Can you see even the screws falling off your truck during a crash in Excite Truck like in Motorstorm? See every rain drop falling on your windshield in GT Pro Series like in PGR 4?

How's Tony Hawk Downhill Jam hold up to skate.? Big open world? Video recording and sharing?

How many SSX Blur tracks would it take to make something as big as one mountian in Amped?

Are you downloading anything besides old games like new content and expansion packs? Playing with 20-30 other people online? Have music and movies saved to your huge hard drive? Able to get patches for glitchy games? Got your own soundtrack?

No? Didn't think so.

It might be considered in with the 7th gen but at best it's 6.0 to 6.5 tech with a new control scheme.

QFT, Nintendo had the options of making an HDD, the Wii having 720p, and a good online, but they did none. Nintendos becoming a one trick pony frankly, and I think will become the next Sega, leaving Sony and Microsoft to duke it out.

The problem is that the touch screen and wiimote will eventually lose their draw. It also doesnt help that I only see Wii/DS commercials now for mini-game filled games and 1st Party Nintendo games.

[Rock_Starman]

And you think the Wii is more of the same. What does the 360 have to offer? FPS after FPS. No thanks.

I own 18 360 games and only one true FPS (PDZ) and one other game with the option for it (Hitman and I believe it's possible to go through it without shooting anyone at all) and of my 13 PS3 games none are FPS though Time Crisis 4 has a FPS mode.

As for the PC comment only one of the games I mentioned in my post is on PC right now.

[mind_in_rewind]

-----man tho all those GH3 sales are below what I would have thought----but then again that is just one month......That's FOUR DAYS of sales. ;)

I just have to say that games like Rock Band and Guitar Hero are extremely appealing to casuals. A good majority of the people that come play GH at my place don't even own a system. One of my friends bought a 360 after playing the GHII demo in Best Buy for 5 minutes.

Face it, it's a party game by nature. It has broad appeal. Hardcores can have fun playing on Expert, while John Q. Public can play co-op on Easy and enjoy a beer.

[Zookey]

I own 18 360 games and only one true FPS (PDZ) and one other game with the option for it (Hitman and I believe it's possible to go through it without shooting anyone at all) and of my 13 PS3 games none are FPS though Time Crisis 4 has a FPS mode.

As for the PC comment only one of the games I mentioned in my post is on PC right now.

LOL it is possible to own a PS3 without Resistance JK man----seriously tho if you aren't rockin' RFOM you must be into Warhawk then right?? How is Time Crisis--haven't played the others but everyone is playing up TC4.

kind of shocking that casual players would be into it---I would have thought the difficulty level of these games (especially drums on RB) would have scared them away----oh well I concede on that but still hold that, if I owned a Wii in addition to my PS3 and RB came out on Wii too--there would be no stress in picking which one to get---think about it if you get it for a system with an HDD you can have DLC and not worry about taking away too much from the 512 MB of space for Virtual Console titles.......

[Zookey]

QFT, Nintendo had the options of making an HDD, the Wii having 720p, and a good online, but they did none. Nintendos becoming a one trick pony frankly, and I think will become the next Sega, leaving Sony and Microsoft to duke it out.

The problem is that the touch screen and wiimote will eventually lose their draw. It also doesnt help that I only see Wii/DS commercials now for mini-game filled games and 1st Party Nintendo games.

2nd post

I think the DS will/can have longer legs due to the standard control schemes mixed in, however by making the Wii's classic controller so lame (IGN had a **FAR** better idea with a GameCube controller-like shell the Wiimote would slide into) Nintendo backed themselves in a corner--which is why the vast majority of gamers who own one consider it a secondary console (PSWii and Wii60) goes back to what I said earlier that most hardcore gamers don't own a Wii or DS exclusively ---granted lots of hardcores own all systems but the Wii can't meet hardcore needs on its' own because the enviornment fostered by it is more open to mini game compilations and first party titles----just go to GameStop and look on the shelves--the vast majority of Wii games are crap with a few standouts like Galaxy and Brawl (yes I know Brawl isn't out yet....)---I think hardcore gamers were completely forgotten by Nintendo, despite Nintendo saying the wouldn't forget us. Yes we have a new Smash Bros and Mario--but that happens with every new Nintendo console in recent memory so that isn't necessarily indicative that it will continue--I mean the GameCube only got 1 Smash and 1 Mario-----I think the GameCube is better IMO because it had a few more classy hardcore games (Eternal Darkness FTW)---and yes the Wii could surprise me--I HOPE it does!!! I just am not holding out---I thought the DS was going to be amazing with hardcore experiences but I was let down by it too---so it isn't like I am out to rip on Nintendo--I am a Sony fanboy yes but I play all consoles and was happy to own all 3 in last gen and, at one time, all three in this gen---so I don't care about consoles losing--rather see them win but it frustrates me how Nintendo won't open up a little more and focus on us hardcore gamers just a tad more--at least promise more than one installment of Smash this generation and I'd be happy--or even a DS Smash we all know that'd rule---my DS wouldn't be collecting dust anymore then!

[Twilight]

I dont understand why a wii version of rock band hasnt been released....or at least announced. i'd much rather buy this game than Guitar Hero 3. Rock Band would earn SOOO much money on the wii, the INTERACTIVE SYSTEM. W/e their loss

wii sucks. Too casual for hard core and rock band too hardcore for the casual.

[nicko68]

wii sucks. Too casual for hard core and rock band too hardcore for the casual.

Too hardcore for casual? How do you figure?

Why does everything have to be a pissing contest? Some people chose XBox, some chose PS3, some Wii, some a combination... who cares, there's no "right" answer.

[Rock_Starman]

LOL it is possible to own a PS3 without Resistance JK man----seriously tho if you aren't rockin' RFOM you must be into Warhawk then right?? How is Time Crisis--haven't played the others but everyone is playing up TC4.

Nope no Warhawk either,rented it though. It's great and all but I don't have a router or anything and am often needed on the comp so with only one connection I wouldn't get to play it much.

Time Crisis is good,if someone liked the others they'd like it if they didn't like the others they wouldn't like it but I don't know how it'd be to someone that hasn't played it.

Should make that 20 360 games,forgot I own 2 arcade games too.

[Zookey]

Nice might try TC4 if one of my friends gets it--got UT3 on reserve right now--only like 10 more days baby!

[Rock_Starman]

Apprently you can use the RB drum pedal as a reload so it'd be like in the arcade. Now I'm back to not knowing what system to get it on,well unless it'll reconize the 360 one.

[Credge]

That's the problem. The Wii isn't next-gen. It's like a .5 gen (if that) above the PS2 so it gets PS2 ports and of coruse the already mentioned half assed online and storage space.

O_O

That's fine and dandy if you want to think that. The evidence of sales suggests otherwise and it would be wise of them to put an amazing party game in a console that is just about that. Party games.

[Zookey]

Apprently you can use the RB drum pedal as a reload so it'd be like in the arcade. Now I'm back to not knowing what system to get it on,well unless it'll reconize the 360 one.

Dude where did you hear that? That'd be AMAZING!!! LOL!

[Chimchim]

I'll probably just end up buying the ps2 package. Kinda pathetic...ps2 gets priority over the next-gen wii lol.
I think the Wii classifies as last-gen, since basically it is a Gamecube with a newer, prettier Powerglove

[espher]

The evidence of sales suggests otherwise {...}

Not exactly a good example -- I think the PS2 is outselling the PS3 still. :p

[Rock_Starman]

It was on the gamespot forums. It does reconize the normal controller and pressing L2 on that even when playing with the Guncon can reload/cover so I guess the same applys to RB but I wouldn't know.

Sales do not make the system next-gen.

On top of that:

"Greenpeace have just released their sixth "Guide to Greener Electronics", which looks at electronics manufacturers and grades them according to how environmentally sound their manufacturing and product recycling processes (ie how they dispose of outdated technology) are. Where's this start getting relevant to you? For the first time the report covers thew manufacturers of games consoles, so Microsoft and Nintendo have for the first time come up for inspection alongside trusty old warhorse Sony. So how'd they all do?

Probably benefiting from the fact they produce a whole range of stuff, have been doing so for a long time and as such had to go through this kind of malarkey before, Sony use few toxic components in their gear, and have a good recycling/takeback policy on old stuff. Final Greenpeace score: a very healthy 7.3/10

Microsoft didn't do as well. Apparently they have a "long timeline" for the elimination of toxic chemicals from their manufacturing process, and also have a "poor" takeback policy and practice. Do try and keep your jokes to a minimum on that one, thanks. Final Greenpeace score: a miserable 2.7/10.

Nintendo? Oh Nintendo, Nintendo, Nintendo. You lied to us. You're awful. A joke. Or would be, if Greenpeace joked about this kind of thing, instead of frowning and tutting and generally being upset. Across the board they've got no idea, and failed every single category they were being assessed on. Indeed, things are so bad for the clean, wholesome family fun merchants that they're the first "global brand" in the history of the report to score zeros across every single assessable category. Final Greenpeace score: 0/10"

http://kotaku.com/gaming/environment/greenpeace-say-nintendo-eat-dolphins-kill-pandas-for-sport-326767.php

[Zookey]

As much as I am pro Sony


Greenpeace is a joke nad we should never lose sight of that.....

[rockwood610]

HA! The Nintendo Wii....

Why didn't it get Rock Band? Well probably because the PS2 has more balls then the Wii. With its game cube candy land graphics, crappy online setup, and childish software titles like Mario Galaxy and Sonic/Mario Olympics.... cut me a fricken break! Thier controller mayabe nifty, but with out support of TODAYS IN HIGH DEMAND TECHNOLOGIES like HD and hi res PCM/Dolby digital, no high storasge device.... come on... leave if for the g/fs and grannys out there in the world.

The Wii is over rated because it copied a controller that already exists and they made it popular. Crap graphics, no processing balls... I'll sti ck to NEW GEN systesm that actauly support new gen technologies.

[rockwood610]

O_O

That's fine and dandy if you want to think that. The evidence of sales suggests otherwise and it would be wise of them to put an amazing party game in a console that is just about that. Party games.

Sales... numbers... nothing more. I am sick of Nintendo bragging about how many systems they have sold. Look at thier ****Y lineup of games... candy land games... nothing more. You can sell 15 million systems... all it does it catters to the weak gf who has a hardcore gamer b/f. And it lets grandma play with Junior when ma and pa are fighting.

If it was so great, why are some of the best titles... including Rock Band... not getting it? Its pretty sad that the PS2 is still getting these games... and the Wii is not.

[magickewlade]

you would look uber re7arded playing rockband on the wii. (look at me im a wiiner)

[nicko68]

With its game cube candy land graphics, crappy online setup, and childish software titles like Mario Galaxy and Sonic/Mario Olympics.... cut me a fricken break! Thier controller mayabe nifty, but with out support of TODAYS IN HIGH DEMAND TECHNOLOGIES like HD and hi res PCM/Dolby digital, no high storasge device.... come on... leave if for the g/fs and grannys out there in the world.

Go crawl back in your hole and play whatever boring FPS fragfest is the game of the moment.

Super Mario Galaxy got 9.5s, and I'm pretty sure the reviewers were not children, which is what you must be, judging from your post.

[nicko68]

If it was so great, why are some of the best titles... including Rock Band... not getting it? Its pretty sad that the PS2 is still getting these games... and the Wii is not.

Let's see, Einstein... the PS2 has an installed user base of millions, of COURSE Activision and EA aren't going to overlook it. RB isn't on the Wii because HMX couldn't even handle the hardware and game for the 3 platforms it aimed for.

Software companies originally had the same shortsighted opinion as you, and... OMG, guess what... people WANT the Wii and are buying them as fast as Nintendo can crank them out... and now we have to scramble to get the games out...

You do realize that Wii is getting some mature games, like Manhunt, Resident Evil, etc?

Guitar Hero III is FLYING off the shevles for the Wii as well. It's impossible to find up here (PS2 no problem, of course). You can bet EA has noticed this. Activision has a nice monopoly on the Wii right now. Think it will last long? Hopefully by then the instruments will be decent, so no hurry anyway.

[Lydecker]

HA! The Nintendo Wii.... Why didn't it get Rock Band? Well probably because the PS2 has more balls then the Wii.Oh, yes, how could I forget the ever-so-important balls factor. Where people who identify as gamers try to separate themselves from the rest of reality and only value things that are "hardcore" and can't be appreciated by normal society.


With its game cube candy land graphics, crappy online setup, and childish software.
The graphics power would be able to support this game: Rock band in no way pushes the limits of the 360 and PS3 technology. Guitar Hero has the same quality and exists on the Wii.

I believe the Wii has the capability to do over internet in a manner that is utilized in Rock Band. There are games that allow online play, namely Guitar Hero III.

The games that exist for the Wii have no impact on the feasibility of Rock Band for the Wii. The games made for the Wii are made by developers, i.e. Harmonix. It seems you just want the Wii to cease to exist because it's bridging some gap, not try to suit your needs by having games you might play.

With out support of TODAYS IN HIGH DEMAND TECHNOLOGIES like HD and hi res PCM/Dolby digital, no high storasge device....
First, do you know what this year's most IN HIGH DEMAND TECHNOLOGY christmas is? And what last years was? The Wii.

I'll say that lack of HD support may be a problem for Rock Band, it might be harder to see all the things on the screen. But since I assume Rock Band supports SD on PS3 and XBox, it should be able to support it on the Wii


The Wii is over rated because it copied a controller that already exists and they made it popular. Crap graphics, no processing balls... I'll sti ck to NEW GEN systesm that actauly support new gen technologies.
You offer no convincing arguments. ALL systems copy controllers that already exist (the xbox and ps3 controllers are near exact duplicates of the previous gen, so you obviously don't care if it's copied). Graphics are only as good as developers make them, so some games that rely on very detailed graphics (not Rock Band) may not make it on the Wii. Again, I don't know what processing balls has to do with Rock Band on Wii.

You seem to value new gen technologies. I'd say that materialism is unhealthy. Sticking with any gaming platform because it is fun is a good choice.


All it does it catters to the weak gf who has a hardcore gamer b/f. And it lets grandma play with Junior when ma and pa are fighting.
I'm sorry that you feel upset by your weak girlfriend and fighting parents.


Its pretty sad that the PS2 is still getting these games... and the Wii is not.
I couldn't agree more.

[Rock_Starman]

Mario got 9.5s...goin there huh?

Games with 8.5+ (mininum 5 reviews)
360: 30/??? (it only shows 200 but there's more than that)
PS3: 12/88
Wii: 8/126

Games under 5.5
360: 39 (14 arcade games and one Burger King game)
PS3: 6
Wii: 19

[Lydecker]

All game ratings prove is that there can be good games and bad games for the system. They've all had good games and all had bad games. So why not bring Rock Band, a good game, to this system?

[Rock_Starman]

They will,just a PS2 port and the reasons have been explained. In addition there's also any possible technical problems there could be. I'm sure they can't just take the PS3/360 instruments and change the insides for the Wii like they apprently did with those (battery slot on the 360 wired guitar?).

[Zookey]

Man people on both sides of this arguement have become nothing but idiots--back it off everyone

RB hasn't been announced for the Wii--fact

If it does get announced, yay for you I guess, but I would still suggest getting it for the 360 or PS3 (more leaning towards PS3 for personal preference but oh well) due to the HDD and open network system---only 512 MB of space and impossible-to-use-online (yes I did try to use the Wii online before---and, when I get one for Smash Bros I can pretty much guarantee you I won't play it online even tho I play PS3 online a lot and enjoyed Xbox Live when I was into Xbox) will hinder the Wii version as much as it is going to hinder the PS2 version...

Back to what I said tho--everyone get over it and stop with the fanboy crap

[DirtyRockClub]

Okay, I basically skipped to the end after reading about the first page of comments and would like to address a few things...

- Wii may not be next gen as far as graphics wise but the thought behind it and how innovative they were with the idea of "hey let's get people off of their asses" is what really makes it "next gen". ALL hardcore or self-proclaimed hardcore gamers should know that graphics aren't EVERYTHING.

- Also, for reasons unknown, there are quite a few games that are very good that probably will never make it to the Wii. Nintendo does have more of a family/casual gamer demographic which somewhat hinders the system that they should try getting past.

- The Wii at this point is more or less like the PS3 a bit right now and when the PS3 launched. It simply doesn't have many titles that the majority of gamers would like to play, or yet at least. I've seen a list of quite a few games that will be coming in the near future and things are looking pretty bright. Also I recently bought RE:Umbrella Chronicles for my Wii and probably had more fun playing that than House of The Dead 3 or even Time Crisis 3, although Time Crisis 4 for the PS3 is going to blow it out of the water. ^^;

I wouldn't mind playing RB on my Wii, but I will agree that the storage and online capability of the Wii should be fixed beforehand.

[Rock_Starman]

To quickly sum up my previous much longer post,it's not just the graphics but also the expirances the games are able to deliever because of the technology in the PS3 and 360 that the Wii cannot because it doesn't have said technology.

[560sdl]

I am old (late 40's) and not at all into video games. I have played the WII and had a blast because it is pretty much a party game for all ages and gets people together to make fools of themselves but also allows you to improve your skills. Did I mention I am old? This is important bacause being old, I find most video games incredibly frustrating. Having not grown up with a controller in my hand, I am at a huge disadvantage when trying to play. My son is 20 and there is no point in playing him in anything. It is just unfair. So I have been looking to buy a WII for a while and just could not find them.

Along the way, I have played my son's GH-II and GH-III. While I suck, it still was fun and the fact that I could step down to play bass made it even more fun. Once I heard about Rock Band, I was very intrigued and stated researching it a bit. So I wanted a WII, wanted GH-III and figured some day I would add Rock Band. When Rock Band actually it the shelves, it coincided with a package deal with at Best Buy which included was a PS3 and a TV. My son says this is a great deal cause the PS3 has Blue Ray and was almost free in this deal.

So here I am with Rock Band and PS3 (I have not picked up the tv yet). The first night I bring it home, my college age son cancels his "going out" to help set this up and give it a shot. Since I have installed it, my 16 year old daughter has spent more time playing it than I have seen her in 6 months. My skills on the guitar have improved but I still have a long ways to go and I have gone from horrible on the drums to improving. Oh and I am a lucky one that has not had anything break yet.

I am still an idoit and cannot figure out how to download songs. Give me a PC and I can find anything. Put a game controller in my hand and I become stupid. The point of all of this is that games like this do not need to be enjoyed by "hard core gamers". I am far from it and will never be hard core. But this game is ideal for family and or friend fun, for all ages and this I think opens up a huge market for game developers. Credit the WII for starting the trend and Rock Bank for the next great thing. But here is the huge thing. The cost of the game does not mean that much to me. I have seen 1000's of posts whining about the money the game cost and "another $100 out" because of a deposit they will get back. If this brings a family joy and fun and keeps kids safe and out of trouble, it is worth 10 times the cost of the game.

The final point is that bringing people like me into the fold also opens the door for 3rd party suppliers. With all the trouble with the controllers, if someone came out tomorrow with good quality guitars and drums, I would buy them in a heartbeat. This game can only improve and with lots of DLC coming up, there will always be a challange. The software is awesome and will get better. The weak part is the toy controllers. Fix that and this is a huge winner.

[sheppyboy]

God, not another one of these threads. Frankly, I'm getting sick of it.

Every single ****** on the planet sees a game and goes "it should be on my system" without thinking for a moment why it would not be. And then, this is my favorite part, the whole "but we got da sales" as the biggest arguement. I'll break it down real nice and simple for you.

Wii has not been proven as a viable console for third parties. Outside of launch arena titles, the only third party game to get massive success was a budget port. And frankly, companies don't care about your console. Hate to break it to you but hell, the evidence is in GH3, sales you are soooo proud of touting. The game is busted. Sound outputs only in mono. This is evidence that Activision didn't even bother to test two player mode on that system.

And Zak & Wiki bombs because it's hard to find? Ha! I checked on this one myself because I'm tired of hearing this arguement. My local Meijer never sold one of their 2 copies. My local walmarts all have their original shipments. Our local Gamecrazy sold a copy. The mall EB sold two copies, the campus one sold a copy. Best Buy sold one copy of four, Circuit City never got any in. If you're keeping track, that's 8 locations locally that have had horrid sales on this game. In fact, from what I can tell, majority of the copies went to the local game developers. Just like Katamari Damacy.

Facing facts, if Nintendo Wii owners want more games, they need to start supporting more games. Zak & Wiki's failure set the precedence. You guys set the tone of your system with what you support. Just look at PS3. EA sees horrible sales on PS3, but EA ports on PS3 are known to be glitchy buggy pieces of crap so we don't support the half-assed efforts here. Will they learn their lesson? No, but at least more developers are treating their PS3 ports with care and seeing rewards for that in sales.

[nathanp]

I have seen 1000's of posts whining about the money the game cost and "another $100 out" because of a deposit they will get back. If this brings a family joy and fun and keeps kids safe and out of trouble, it is worth 10 times the cost of the game.

The final point is that bringing people like me into the fold also opens the door for 3rd party suppliers. With all the trouble with the controllers, if someone came out tomorrow with good quality guitars and drums, I would buy them in a heartbeat. This game can only improve and with lots of DLC coming up, there will always be a challange. The software is awesome and will get better. The weak part is the toy controllers. Fix that and this is a huge winner.

Although I'm not even close to being a father, hell I'm single, but I can definitely cosign with what this guy said.

I bought Wii for the same reason of getting my family together, something we all could enjoy.

The last time my dad actually put an effort into video games was when we got Duck Hunt on NES (when he was already in his late 40's), and he would ramble off about how he was a sharp shooter haha. Then of course adolescents hit, and well, I didn't care so much for that 'father/son' bonding. I'm assuming it's a typical thing teenagers do y'know, growing apart etc.

He use to have a blast beating me on duck hunt, haha. On the wiiplay shooting game, oh it was just unfair how I was beating him… but after a few days, he was getting better! I had to let him beat me most of the times, definitely could hear the joy in his voice when he was boast about beating me and how old he was. Like the last guy said, some of the games, well most... are just completely unfair for them.

Damnit, getting older sucks haha!! You definitely grow up to miss those moments. Which makes them a small price to pay.

[nicko68]

I am old (late 40's) and not at all into video games.

Also, being old (like me... late 30s here), you can remember when video games were not about graphics AT ALL. In the arcade people were playing Pac-Man, Donkey Kong and Space Invaders. At home, you have the Atari 2600, Intellivision and Colecovision. They were hardcore, and needed to rely on things beyond graphics... like fun.

[nicko68]

And Zak & Wiki bombs because it's hard to find?

I think it's more because of ZERO marketing (or at least ineffective marketing).

[sheppyboy]

Also, being old (like me... late 30s here), you can remember when video games were not about graphics AT ALL. In the arcade people were playing Pac-Man, Donkey Kong and Space Invaders. At home, you have the Atari 2600, Intellivision and Colecovision. They were hardcore, and needed to rely on things beyond graphics... like fun.

If you were really that old, you'd remember it wasn't the gameplay they kept hyping in those commercials. It WAS the graphics. In fact, Arcades survived when Atari died just because the arcade experience was beyond the console versions. I mean, no offense but if you really think graphics never mattered in the game industry, maybe your old age is a hell of a lot more accellerated than anyone elses.

Come to think of it... what was one of the major reasons why the game industry crashed? *starts looking over at DS and Wii game libraries suspiciously*

[espher]

I don't understand how this thread went past the first page. Everything was covered there ffs.

[IbanezBassist_v2]

I dont understand why a wii version of rock band hasnt been released....or at least announced. i'd much rather buy this game than Guitar Hero 3. Rock Band would earn SOOO much money on the wii, the INTERACTIVE SYSTEM. W/e their loss

Why? So you can ***** about your peripherals when in fact you do get it? :rolleyes:

[nicko68]

If you were really that old, you'd remember it wasn't the gameplay they kept hyping in those commercials. It WAS the graphics. In fact, Arcades survived when Atari died just because the arcade experience was beyond the console versions. I mean, no offense but if you really think graphics never mattered in the game industry, maybe your old age is a hell of a lot more accellerated than anyone elses.

Come to think of it... what was one of the major reasons why the game industry crashed? *starts looking over at DS and Wii game libraries suspiciously*

Just because George Plimpton said the Intellivision's graphics were awesome doesn't mean they were. Compared to the Atari 2600, sure, but c'mon, nobody was blown away by the graphics on the home consoles at the time, but that didn't matter.

[DirtyRockClub]

To quickly sum up my previous much longer post,it's not just the graphics but also the expirances the games are able to deliever because of the technology in the PS3 and 360 that the Wii cannot because it doesn't have said technology.

Well I can understand why not all games are being ported to the Wii, other than graphics and having powerful enough technology to support those graphics, but I mean look at Rock Band. It doesn't have breakthrough, next gen, or any of the above graphics. It actually has slightly better graphics than GH3 has that also happens to be on the Wii. So I mean I can't see why it wouldn't be possible. They really would need to change the whole "friend code" online play thing though, that's about it.

I'm not saying it HAS to be on the Wii but I mean if you're going to make it for every other system that still sells I think it would be nice to include the Wii.

[Rock_Starman]

The Wii doesn't seem to have decent online nor the storage space for DLC and that's why it's not on it yet. I think it will come to the Wii but it'll be a PS2 port. They probably have one team to handle the 360/PS3 DLC and one to handle the PS2/Wii verision. Since there's 120 million PS2s sold they'd rather get it out on that first.


You people that only bought a Wii knew what you were getting into right? You know it can't do something like this (CoD 4 spoiler):
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and it's more than just the graphics that make that awesome.

To download songs on the PS3 connect to the internet,go to the Playstation Network,put your credit card # with your account then go to the store and choose Rock Band Add-ons then just pick download now.

[sniper3134]

What "classic" xbox games are there? None really..... halo ....but only because its an overrated shooter powered by fanboys. Nintendo has HUGE names including , Mario, Metroid, and Zelda. All of which have at least 1 game in the top 10 games of all time. Microsoft???? No where to be seen........You dont buy system for graphics , you buy it for games and reliability of the maker. Nintendo just makes better games than micros

[espher]

The Wii doesn't have any 'classic' games, either (although there are definitely a few that will be). They have classic 'franchises' that Nintendo milks like crazy, and the typical Wii owner ignores the gems like Zack and Wiki that come along.

[christagious]

I don't remember his name, but the one guy at Harmonix said "absolutely" when it comes to a chance of RB coming out on Wii. Does anything else need to be said beyond this? No, absolutely not. For the people saying, "Why isn't RB coming out on wii? *sniffle*", Um, more than likely it is, so quit your *****ing, it's coming, okay?
Who cares about why it should, or why it shouldn't? Although it isn't officially announced, it sounds like it's probably coming in due time. End of argument.

And judging by most of your grammar, I'm assuming most of you are in 9th, 10th grade in high school, maybe.

[espher]

And judging by most of your grammar, I'm assuming most of you are in 9th, 10th grade in high school, maybe.

By your attitude, I'd put you in 6th.

SEEWHATIDIDTHERE?

[FakeNBake]

what is this Wii you all speak of?:p

[FakeNBake]

just kidding...I am a PSWii'er and must say that my Wii just collects dust. the luster has worn out mainly because I picked up Tiger Woods 08 and was so unimpressed with the graphics and sound that I promised to not get another cross platform game on the Wii, PS2 graphics were better

I do like the fishing and bowling 3rd party games that BB had for $19 on black friday, but I only played them once...

[christagious]

By your attitude, I'd put you in 6th.

SEEWHATIDIDTHERE?

OK buddy.
I don't have an attitude, it's just fact. But my Nintendo fanboy senses are tingling

[sniper3134]

OK buddy.
I don't have an attitude, it's just fact. But my Nintendo fanboy senses are tingling

LMAO. You attack espher....if you actually read this thread you would see he's probably the most neutral person on the entire thread.

[SilentCapybara]

Hehe your using insults and the like just proves my point :-) When people can't make a respectable and logic based argument they reach for the insults.

I will bet you 1 of 2 things

A) DDR on Wii won't sell

B) If it sells, one of the big things pushing it is Konami probably watered it down because people who game exclusively on Wii aren't hardcore gamers---and lets see a non hardcore gamer stay into DDR for a long time--only hardcore gamers do things like try and get better and join up on sites such as this one or DDRFreak

and you can switch DDR out for any music based game in there almost :-) Granted some are aimed at different crowds but Rock Band doesn't seem to fit that bill to me

Oh well, done with this thread, if it is going to become a flame war what is the point?

Wii isnt for hardcore gamers? Play 32 player online with Medal of Honor: Heroes 2 and tell me there aren't hardcore players. Look at all the top scores on Wii version of GH3 and I'm pretty positive the puzzles on Zak and Wiki would screw your brain over. So there are plenty of opportunites for casual and hardcore gamers to find a blend and those games will/have emerge even if they can't sell a bajillion copies like Halo 3 (I also have 360). Quantity doesnt mean quality, if a small game has excellent quality people will play it. A game doesn't have to have it's own nasty variation of Mountain Dew to get recognized and it doesn't take other media forms to give a quality game experience. It's all about the quality and opportunity, so before you go ahead and pull such comments out of your rear, try getting some sensical comments to post. Sorry to flame but it grinds my gears when people go and screw over a console based on what media is saying and what the reputation is. Wii is the blurred line between hardcore and casual and there are plenty games in both genres.

[tashamm]

I dont understand why a wii version of rock band hasnt been released....or at least announced. i'd much rather buy this game than Guitar Hero 3. Rock Band would earn SOOO much money on the wii, the INTERACTIVE SYSTEM. W/e their loss

Because systems like 360 and PS3 are designed for adults, who have musical tastes that span songs other than "Kids Sing Rock A Long" and I'm sorry but the only Wii buyers & owners I know are buyin them for kids 10 & under. And I don't know any 10 year olds that need a drum set, or anything beyond a Guitar Hero guitar to play with. Besides they wouldn't understand what half the songs were saying anyway & it's not appropriate for the targeted age range the Wii was made for.

[svartingr]

Because systems like 360 and PS3 are designed for adults, who have musical tastes that span songs other than "Kids Sing Rock A Long" and I'm sorry but the only Wii buyers & owners I know are buyin them for kids 10 & under. And I don't know any 10 year olds that need a drum set, or anything beyond a Guitar Hero guitar to play with. Besides they wouldn't understand what half the songs were saying anyway & it's not appropriate for the targeted age range the Wii was made for.

The Wii has opened the door for everyone of all ages to play video games with its "unique" style. Saying that Rock Band doesn't fit in the age group is utter BS. One of my friends is 18. He has a Wii. Granted, he has younger siblings... but what are THEY playing? The GAMECUBE. Also, plenty of younger kids are playing the 360 and the PS3. I'm sure you must have played Halo 3 online. If you haven't run into the annoying, foul-mouthed adolescents yet then count yourself lucky.

Rock Band will be released on the PS2 (a nearly obsolete console), so why not the Wii?

The Wii is PERFECT for party games. And what is Rock Band. Contrary to what you might think, it is a party game.

[TheRocker]

If Harmonix havent announced or made any plans for the Wii they have their reasons okay, you cant force them to port it to Wii just because you feel like it , go get a Ps3,360 or simply buy it for Ps2.

[HMXJohnlok]

Whoa!:eek::eek: Console wars, flaming, etc. etc. etc.

Lock-it-lock-it-daaaayyyoownnnnn.