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firescull537
12-02-2008, 11:07 PM
...But not strong enough.

You may remember me from double posting the "Rock band wii pedal broken in 3 days". Now I'm rocking on the 360, and not even the RB2 pedal is strong enough for me. Just to let you know, I play barefoot, and barely push down on the pedal.

Top view:
http://s379.photobucket.com/albums/oo234/firescull537/?action=view&current=pedaltop.jpg

Side view:
http://s379.photobucket.com/albums/oo234/firescull537/?action=view&current=pedalside.jpg

Diagonal view:
http://s379.photobucket.com/albums/oo234/firescull537/?action=view&current=pedaldiagonal.jpg

This is in no way fake. I have been playing RB2 for LESS than a month now, and my pedal is almost completely broken. It is barely even use-able anymore.

HellKatzX
12-02-2008, 11:12 PM
How much do you weigh?

BlnkErik
12-02-2008, 11:12 PM
Damn...

I am always worried about this happening to my RB2 drumset, especially when my unskilled drumming friends come over and slam on the pedal and pads.

jtrousd
12-02-2008, 11:13 PM
You snapped... metal. Nice.

Agentespio
12-02-2008, 11:14 PM
I'm not sure how this keeps happening. I play on expert drums and still have the first Rock Band drumset, all in tact. But then again, I don't weigh very much.

supernova1324
12-02-2008, 11:15 PM
Oh yeah, I'm sure you handled it really gently...I've had mine since launch and the pedal is fine, it's the pads that are the problem.

idlephase
12-02-2008, 11:17 PM
My plastic has fractures, but my metal is entirely intact.

afterstasis
12-02-2008, 11:19 PM
i would recommend getting one of the after-market pedals...
if you did that in a month then there's a problem.

baseclef516
12-02-2008, 11:23 PM
Try playing heel down. That's what I do with my mutilated pedal and it works around 85% of the time.

firescull537
12-02-2008, 11:36 PM
How much do you weigh?

little over 100lbs


Oh yeah, I'm sure you handled it really gently...I've had mine since launch and the pedal is fine, it's the pads that are the problem.

I did. I don't know why mine keeps snapping

JackBNimble
12-02-2008, 11:38 PM
Do you guys who break your pedals where shoes when you play?

I only ask this because I have a first gen RB1 drum kit from launch and I don't have any fractures or cracks in the pedal.I now use the RB2 pedal and it isn't much stronger then the RB1 pedal.

Do you guys stomp on the pedal?The thing is only plastic after all and the plate seams farely thing.

supernova1324
12-02-2008, 11:40 PM
I did. I don't know why mine keeps snapping


I highly doubt that you were handling it gently if you broke a METAL pedal in less than a month. I handle my pedal fairly rough, and it is in perfect condition, just a little noisy.

baseclef516
12-02-2008, 11:44 PM
Do you guys who break your pedals where shoes when you play?

I only ask this because I have a first gen RB1 drum kit from launch and I don't have any fractures or cracks in the pedal.I now use the RB2 pedal and it isn't much stronger then the RB1 pedal.

Do you guys stomp on the pedal?The thing is only plastic after all and the plate seams farely thing.

I wear shoes, but it wasn't the shoes. My friends and I all stomped the crap out of it.
:o

firescull537
12-02-2008, 11:46 PM
I highly doubt that you were handling it gently if you broke a METAL pedal in less than a month. I handle my pedal fairly rough, and it is in perfect condition, just a little noisy.

Actually, for my wii, I attached a metal plate to the pedal (not on wii anymore), that was probably thinner and weaker than the RB2 pedal's metal plate, yet that never broke.

Doc_SoCal
12-03-2008, 02:40 AM
Its more like thick foil that a metal plate.

Like one of those personalized mini liscense plates from disneyland.

I am suprised the metal split like that.

I would guess the plastic pedal mus thave been cracked almost right away and the metal fatigued along that crack until it too split.

I would have expected the pedal to simply fail and the metal to bend.

Wacky stuff.

How sharp is it?

DMBillies
12-03-2008, 03:40 AM
The issue with almost every pedal breakage I've seen (or experienced) is a matter of fatigue and NOT catastrophic failure from a single "overwhelming" event. I broke 4 of the RB1 pedals before I got pissed and dropped $40 more to get a real bass pedal... I felt every single one of them get progressively squishier until they failed.

Bottom line... it's thin piece of relatively flexible plastic and putting a little bit of equally flexible metal on it will not adequately address the main problem (fatigue). It may delay the problem a little bit, but until the pedal foot bed is rigid enough that any flex is minimal (or they use a material that fatigues more slowly), these will continue to break.

Of course, I weigh about 250lbs. and played football as a lineman (i.e., my legs are bigger/heavier than the average bear)... so I may have a little more of an excuse for punishing these things.

I still feel EA/HMX has mishandled these given the number of failures and the number of people feeling the only option is to spend ~$40 to replace them (even with the minor improvement to the RB2 pedal)... but I also understand that I probably represent an extreme of the leg weight distribution that these pedals were not likely even close to built for.

Ink12many
12-03-2008, 04:56 AM
best solution = no shoes, keep foot to pedal, never stomp, and only press pedal with the whole foot than just the toes.

should help

Flawless
12-03-2008, 08:10 AM
You're straight up lying about how you play with it.

No way it's that broken and you were treating it like a baby.

... I hate liars.

AlphaUltima
12-03-2008, 08:45 AM
no way is that from heel up or heel down.
are you using a titanium peg for a foot?
like some futuristic super pirate?

Nevyn
12-03-2008, 08:46 AM
I cracked my RB1 pedal like that. So, my buddy gave me a spare Ludwig SpeedKing he had from his real set, and I inserted a momentary switch under the pedal and a block of acrylic to act as an actuator. Soldered a 1/8" stereo cable to the switch, and I'm good to rock as hard as I want!

http://www.chrisguitars.com/ludwig-pedal-no2.jpg

The other benefit is that because it's a momentary switch, there's no "gray area" for activation, like there is with the magnetic ones. It clicks, and sends one pulse, and then it's done until it clicks again. you can play heel up, heel down, pedal up rest, pedal down rest - makes no difference. It's EXTREMELY accurate.

supernova1324
12-03-2008, 11:17 AM
You're straight up lying about how you play with it.

No way it's that broken and you were treating it like a baby.

... I hate liars.

My thoughts exactly. You don't break metal when you are just treating it gently.

thehunted616
12-03-2008, 11:20 AM
Uhh. I'm pretty sure it's not broken, but that you're living in a Parallel Universe. Now shush up.

Spandrel
12-03-2008, 11:25 AM
I can't recommend playing in socks enough with the pedals that come with either drum set.

hmxhenry
12-03-2008, 11:37 AM
Sorry to hear about your problems with the RB2 kick pedal. I would recommend contacting EA to receive a new kick pedal for free through the warranty replacement plan.

Additionally, you may find it helpful to video tape yourself playing for a few songs to review your playing technique. You may find that you are actually playing harder than you initially thought. While the RB2 kick pedal is not 100% indestructible (even real kick pedals break after all) I have never seen a metal kick pedal split in half like that when it wasn't a result of many, many hours of misuse.