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Cavor
11-25-2007, 10:57 AM
I have just ordered the game and it should be here after Christmas and I really wanted to know how the singing works. I am a singer in real life and I am wondering if it makes it any easier for me on RB. Does it count the notes? The right words? What?

Sp 027
11-25-2007, 10:59 AM
Pitch and annunciation. Don't have to worry about octave. Tempo is scored for on special speaking/rap parts, like the entirety of Sabotage.

Cavor
11-25-2007, 11:00 AM
Wow, I should do pretty good. But what about like the SCREM-O songs, hard to understand the annunciation.

phulcrum1984
11-25-2007, 11:06 AM
It shows the words on the bottome of the screen like a karaoke machine so you'll know what to sing. The singing part is just like any of the karaoke revo or singstar games if you've ever played any of those.

Sp 027
11-25-2007, 11:07 AM
Theres only one screaming part in the game and singing it counts it right.

Cavor
11-25-2007, 11:07 AM
Nah I havent, but if you are a singer in real life... It is basically the same thing then... I should be set, I'll look for a band to join online.

Cavor
11-25-2007, 11:08 AM
Theres only one screaming part in the game and singing it counts it right.

hahhahahahaa Wow, what song is it?

Sp 027
11-25-2007, 11:11 AM
I'm so sick by Flyleaf.

xfMike
11-25-2007, 11:13 AM
Also it should be said that you do not have to immitate any of the singer's voices.

Neither do you actually have to annunciate any of the words when you're in a part that counts only the pitch (when you see green lines). This means you can slur your words (which is great when you don't know the lyrics), hum to the melody/pitch, or even sing parody lyrics... just as long as you're in pitch.

phulcrum1984
11-25-2007, 11:13 AM
I just wish there was someway you could calabrate your voice with the game because my voice is inbetween octaves so the low notes I have to go an octave higher. It sounds really wierd having the high notes be a lower tone and the low notes being a higher tone, lol.

Cavor
11-25-2007, 11:16 AM
Damn I can already tell this is gunna be fun. Are all you guys fellow vocalists?

phulcrum1984
11-25-2007, 11:22 AM
Damn I can already tell this is gunna be fun. Are all you guys fellow vocalists?

Only when I'm drunk =p

SoberScott
11-25-2007, 11:24 AM
I am a kareoke hero. Though i can't say I am very good lol

phulcrum1984
11-25-2007, 11:26 AM
Funny thing is I do awesome at Karaoke revo on the hardest level but when it comes to RB I suck. Maybe it's just because pop songs compaired to rock fit my vocal range better or something.

Grayshadow
11-25-2007, 11:52 AM
The pitch range and timing get gradually tighter as you go higher in skill level. As an example, on medium, I consistently 100% every song of the ones I know well. On expert, I can still get 4 or 5 stars, but it's not ranking every phrase perfect like it does on lower difficulties. I'd say I'm a better than average singer, but not really 'awesome', so the ranking and difficulty seems fairly accurate. If you can sing well, the key to getting high scores seems to be also knowing the songs really well.

Cavor
11-25-2007, 01:07 PM
I can't wait to get this game..

Peytah
11-25-2007, 01:22 PM
I sing for a Chamber Choir at school, and so far I've yet to fail a song on Hard yet. I've only tried Expert on the songs I alread know before playing the game and have pretty good success on those too.

gtsavvy
11-25-2007, 07:23 PM
Vocals work based on "phrases", not individual notes. That is to say, on some quicker parts, it's possible to miss a "note" or a word, but still complete the phrase (and get 100%). This is very difficult on Expert, as the scoring starts to get very tight, but is still possible on songs where some notes are very short compared to the rest of the phrase. There are some important things to note, however:

1) Words don't matter in singing sections. You could hum the song and the game will still take it as correct so long as the pitches were all right. This is good for songs that you might not know that well, but know most of the pitches because it's repeating from the first verse, etc.

2) Octave doesn't matter. You don't have to sing low or high if the artist does it, but you do have to sing the right pitch within that octave. For people who sing in real life, or at least understand music, you just have to hit an "A", it doesn't matter at all. This is great for me, because I can switch between octaves when I lose notes in my register.

3) Words do seem to matter on spoken parts (parts without notes), but not THAT much. I blasted through the beastie boys song, even on expert, without knowing ALL the words (and it's hard to read fast enough on some of the sections of the song to really keep up).

4) If you've sung in choirs/churches/etc, or like singing to the radio, expert should be no real problem. I've been in choir since junior high (now about to graduate from college, so... over 11 years in choir) and can 5 star songs I know easily, and 4 star almost all others. The Queens of the Stone Age song gave me trouble because I didn't know how it went AT ALL but still ended up 3 starring it on my first try because I could at least get most of the pitches down.

5) If you aren't someone who's been in choir alot - or at all - but are still relatively familiar with alot of these songs, you should be able to complete the game on at least medium. You will likely have to practice the songs you don't know, but friends of mine who have never been in choir and claim that they are "terrible" at singing have been able to 85%+ even the last teir songs on medium because they were familiar enough with them.

6) The singing includes some "rhythm" based portions, where you hit the mic into your hand in time with the song to emulate playing the tamborine or cowbell (gotta have more cowbell!) or whatever other instrument is in the song. These are much simpler than playing guitar or drums, because there's only ONE thing to do - hit the mic against your hand - but for people who can't keep a solid rhythm going I could see it being difficult.

In my opinion, singing is by far the easiest part in the game, but that may be a bit biased because of my personal background and the fact that my fingers and hands act incredibly stupid when I try to play the guitar or drums. It will take me a LONG time to be able to play those even on hard, and takes several tries to beat on medium, but I am just tearing through the vocal solo tour no problem on expert.

P.S. In case you wanted to know, YES, singing is awesome fun in this game, especially with friends playing the other instruments.

ChangWang2k3
11-25-2007, 08:11 PM
Enunciate... The word is spelled "enunciate!"

Pumba
12-03-2007, 02:15 AM
I just wish there was someway you could calabrate your voice with the game because my voice is inbetween octaves so the low notes I have to go an octave higher. It sounds really wierd having the high notes be a lower tone and the low notes being a higher tone, lol.



What do the phrases on the scoring page mean?

eg.....most energy

HeXcoda
12-03-2007, 02:59 AM
What do the phrases on the scoring page mean?

eg.....most energy

Here are some I've seen...

Most Energy: Used Overdrive the most times of anyone in the band.
Energy Hoarder: Stored tons of Overdrive but never / rarely used it.
Savior: Brought back the most number of failed players.
Serious Skills: A generic 'you did good' message.
Top Peformer: Had the most percentage of anyone in the band.
Unconscious: Was asleep at the wheel for most of the song :)

Back on topic...

I'm at Hard level myself. I can pass songs on Expert and usually do quite well but I prefer Hard so I can consistently knock it out of the park and score overdrive whenever I want it.

Singing's difficult for some people, though -- I've seen some horrible singers online, and most just don't even attempt it, preferring the instruments they already know. If you're a quality singer you WILL be welcome in any band you join since you ramp up their scores and don't need to be hand-held through the songs.

Eagoyle
12-03-2007, 04:40 AM
One thing that I would add is that knowing the songs and having some singing ability is much better than not knowing the songs and being an excellent singer.

I know all but a few of the songs included on the disk, and have some background in singing (middle and high school choir). I routinely beat my fiance on songs that she "has only heard a few times." On songs that we both know well, she will usually win. (She has been singing in choirs for almost 15 years, and has taken lessons).

The singing is a lot of fun, especially if you have other people playing in the same room. Whenever I get to the repetetive parts (Especially the "It's it; what is it?" part of Epic, I love getting right next to the drummer or guitar player to harrass them.)