Christian Rock--please!!

[SenRaq]

Alright, I know Flyleaf is a Christian band and I thank you for that. If you can bring in more of their music that would be cool. Two must have bands that would kill this game would be Skillet and Disciple. Many people would pay to add Christian Rock Bands to their Rock Band game, much like the Metallica and The Police add ons that are coming later. Thank You.

[Transbrak]

no christian rock please thank you

[pntbllrspdr]

As much as I would love to see stuff like Relient K, this thread is just gonna attract all the people that don't believe in God and then they'll hate you out..

[derrikirred]

I don't understand dividing secular music and Christian music. They are both music, just different lyrical content. Who cares?

[Jealleo]

There have been several other posts similar to this one. I wouldn't download it (or at least I don't think I would) but I do not see why it couldn't be an option for those who want to. Who knows maybe if people heard the song and had open minds they might actually enjoy it themselves.

I am all for more downloaded content of any type. IT would be fun to play rock, then funk and then country.

[DivaMom]

See this thread (http://community.rockband.com/vbforum/showthread.php?t=8101) for more discussion fun.
Suffice it to say, I agree with the OP ;)

[i8afatperson]

People who are athesist need to just let others be. This game is for everyone. Not just non-believers. Skillet would be amazing on Rock Band. They are an amazing band and I would download any Christian music if they put it on there.

[eddypoe]

:D:DI would pay for ':Dem

[Rev0lver]

People who are athesist need to just let others be. This game is for everyone. Not just non-believers. Skillet would be amazing on Rock Band. They are an amazing band and I would download any Christian music if they put it on there.

um, no. you need to leave us alone and stop making **** topics like this. how many "we need atheist music" topics have you seen? none. there's no reason to want music in this game just because it's christian. you should want it because it's good music. for example, if a christian song was in here, it would be much better to have a good song by august burns red than a piece of **** song by relient k NOTHING TO DO WITH RELIGION, JUST FOR THE MUSIC.

[xxpigxx]

um, no. you need to leave us alone and stop making **** topics like this. how many "we need atheist music" topics have you seen? none. there's no reason to want music in this game just because it's christian. you should want it because it's good music. for example, if a christian song was in here, it would be much better to have a good song by august burns red than a piece of **** song by relient k NOTHING TO DO WITH RELIGION, JUST FOR THE MUSIC.


What is wrong with offering it for a download?

If you do not want it, do not download it. The ones who want it will pay for it.

Not that big of a deal.

I would download some of it, but I do not care for Christian Music (except a few bands).

[A Lumbee Indian]

Alright, I know Flyleaf is a Christian band and I thank you for that. If you can bring in more of their music that would be cool. Two must have bands that would kill this game would be Skillet and Disciple. Many people would pay to add Christian Rock Bands to their Rock Band game, much like the Metallica and The Police add ons that are coming later. Thank You. I would love to be able to play Christian rock. I am not a Christian but I go to church every Sunday if I can make it. I even listen to Christian music. I'm more into the Southern Gospel and R&B Gospel music though.

[JCBN]

Nah. you can just go to a church or watch TV at 3:30AM if you wanna jam to that.

[Rev0lver]

What is wrong with offering it for a download?

If you do not want it, do not download it. The ones who want it will pay for it.

Not that big of a deal.

I would download some of it, but I do not care for Christian Music (except a few bands).

because it is a waste of space on the dlc slots.

im going to petition for a hindu, buddhist, jewish, and pagan rock dlc pack.

[WildBillKickoff]

um, no. you need to leave us alone and stop making **** topics like this. how many "we need atheist music" topics have you seen? none. there's no reason to want music in this game just because it's christian. you should want it because it's good music. for example, if a christian song was in here, it would be much better to have a good song by august burns red than a piece of **** song by relient k NOTHING TO DO WITH RELIGION, JUST FOR THE MUSIC.

Rock Band actually already has "atheist" music. It's called "The Hand That Feeds". If you can make an argument stating that song is not an outright condemnation of all religious people, I'd like to hear it.

However, I would agree that I want good music, regardless of my own religious beliefs. Though I am a Christian, I would never pay to download most of the Christian music that is out there. I also don't think there is anything to get worked up about, as a Christian Rock pack would not sell very well because of the prejudice that all Christian music stinks. (99% of the time it's right.)

[ImperfectSaint]

I Think it sounds great. i would love to see some Underoath. Maybe 'Reinventing Your Exit' or something like that. and maybe 'Who I Am Hates Who I've Been' by Relient K, too. We need some Blindside, too. Tha would Be cool!:D

[SenRaq]

Just to clarify. There is many great bands on the Rock Band game, with hopefully more to come. I don't want to add bands like Skillet,P.O.D,Disciple, Relient K - just because it is Christian music. I want to add them because they make great music, and it would bring good diversity to a great game. That is my opinion, and that is what this thread was designed for. Thanks!

[Rev0lver]

Rock Band actually already has "atheist" music. It's called "The Hand That Feeds". If you can make an argument stating that song is not an outright condemnation of all religious people, I'd like to hear it.


i always saw the song as about conformity and blindly following(i thought of it as more political than religious, but i may be wrong)

[q445187]

I WOULD PAY FOR GOOD CHRISTIAN CONTENT -

Thousand Foot Krutch
Reliant K
Stellar Kart
Skillett
Day Of Fire
the list goes on & on, the haters out there would like the music too if they would open their suposedly open minds...

[MeleeMan]

Christian bands suck!

[TwingTwang]

SKILLETS WHISPERS IN THE DARK, PLEASE! (and i'm not the type that writes in all caps for any old reason, I just really want to play that song)

[BhindBluEyes430]

RELIGIOUS WAR
I Belive in the Church of Flying Spaghetti Monster Where are my songs about Spaghetti and pirates. Let his noodly appendages bless you all

Seriously no christian rock its a little ***
I dont care about your relegion
Rock and Roll and relegion should never mix Religion takes the fun out of everything

[knightone]

I'm not into the whole Christian scene, but I will say this to those who seem to get into threads just to bash people's requests: If you don't like the song or artist, you don't have to download it. Let people make their requests and let Harmonix put out as much variety as possible. I would love to see a great deal of range in music for this game so that just about anyone can have fun and enjoy playing. From top ten to lesser known artists, from Christian music to secular music, and everything under the sun. This game is a party that everyone needs to be invited to. So let's leave the hate at the door and give everyone a chance to have some fun.

[0tj]

Ya, if you don't want it don't get it.

[Sonci]

Heh, I came in wondering if anyone else had thought of adding Relient K to Rock Band. Guess I'm not the only one!

Also, not ALL "Christian Bands" play exclusively music about God, sometimes they *gasp* play regular music!

[Quinarvy]

because it is a waste of space on the dlc slots.

im going to petition for a hindu, buddhist, jewish, and pagan rock dlc pack.

I demand the Dreidel Song, Hava Nagila, and Chanukah, Chanukah in Rock Band.

[polishdog90]

HAIL SATAN! LoL!

[SinistarX]

There are already at least four songs in Rock Band that mention Jesus by name, so rock on. ;)

While I'm not a fan of Christian music, I see no reason to not offer it as DLC. Those that want it can get it. Those that don't, won't. The best thing about DLC is that it lets you choose the soundtrack with which you want to play. After a while, everybody's collection of songs will be slightly different.

[BrutalBrian]

I will say this much, if christian music is offered and downloaded, people will complain.

If "evil" bands like Satyricon, Gorgoroth, Mayhem, and Dimmu Borgir are added, people will complain.

So no matter what they do someone is going to b**ch about something.

Having said that, I would rather have Satyricon, Gorgoroth and Mayhem in this game to play for a lack of any of it being included in Guiatr Hero. And also for the fact I am willing to bet there is more than enough people here willing to download stuff by those 3 bands than there are people who would be willing to download anything of a christian nature.

[Karmeleaux]

I think Relient K's non-religious stuff would work really well for Rock Band, but their religious stuff seriously comes off as overly preachy to me.

If I had my drudgers, Five Iron Frenzy would be in the game (See the Flames Begin to Crawl, at least), as even when they do religious songs, it's very rarely shoving it down your throat like I feel some Relient K do.

Also, I wouldn't be surprised to see Switchfoot as downloadable (Hopefully Ammunition, but probably Meant to Live or Dare You to Move), due to their popularity in the mainstream, but if I recall correctly they don't consider their music religious so moot point there.

[Brane Ded]

I'm not very religious myself. Well...I mean to say, I'm just as much into the Devil as the next rock fan. But I REALLY don't see a problem with Christian rock in the downloadable content.

Are people afraid they might actually download it? Maybe you'll learn the some Christian rock is actually good to listen to, fun to play, and isn't a Christian attempt to implant propaganda and mind control inside your head.

[MeleeMan]

How about Scientologist rock? Tom Cruise Bop, Travolta Bash, and everybody's favorite, Live and Let L. Ron!

(BTW, Scientology sucks too.)

[q445187]

I dont care about your relegion
Rock and Roll and relegion should never mix Religion takes the fun out of everything

Please do some more investigation, "religion" can be many things, and yes some people get carried away with it & ruin it, I am sorry you had a negative experience. I have had a negative experience at work, but still hafta go, in traffic, but I still drive....

Jesus isn't a fan of "religion" either. good Christian music doesn't suck, it as just as fun to play, it also doesn't happen to be negative, or have offensive words or themes, it is the same sounds arranged in virtually the same patterns, but you don't want to scowl and break things when you are done.

Listen to it, ask somneone to point you to a band that is similar to who you listen to now, you will be surprised...

[Jack Lumber]

I'm not about to get into an argument over religion, here, but talking about the music? Sure, I can do that.

Personally, I wouldn't be against christian rock, I'm a pretty big christian myself. But the fact remains that I just haven't heard any christian rock at all that's any good. And believe me, I've looked.

It's a stupid genre anyway. I know a lot of people who seem to think no band can have good morals unless get out there and publicly label themselves a "Christian band", and that's just stupid.

[Flamingmonkey923]

I want to play songs for their song value, not their religious value. This is a game about playing good music, not music that coincides with anyone's religious beliefs. If the songs are good, then they'll make it onto the playlist without you having to go on a religious crusade to get them there. The songlist already contains songs that are both pro-christian, and anti-christian, and I'm sure if we had more variety of religion in this country it would have other religious songs too - but those songs aren't on there to appease anyone's religious beliefs, they're on there because they're good.

[powdrdmilkman]

RELIGIOUS WAR
I Belive in the Church of Flying Spaghetti Monster Where are my songs about Spaghetti and pirates. Let his noodly appendages bless you all

Seriously no christian rock its a little ***
I dont care about your relegion
Rock and Roll and relegion should never mix Religion takes the fun out of everything


hahahahaha, YES! x2

[Zelandia]

I think some people are missing the point. Is flyleaf a good band? In my opinion yes. Is it because it's christian? No. It's because I like their music.

I'm tired of people who notice I listen to some bands like As I Lay Dying, Flyleaf, Demon Hunter, ect ect asking me if I'm a christian. And when I say no they are shocked saying things like "How can you listen to As I Lay Dying and not be christian?" Um... it's because I like metal music. I had no idea they were a christian band when I bought the CD.

What it really comes down to I think is that people shouldn't be asking for a band because it's a christan band. But because they like the band. So rather than "Include this christian band!" It should be more like "Include some Skillet!" or "Include some Relient K!" Whatever.

I'm not against christians or the music, I just hate the label that's placed on it and the idea that it's a different catagory of music because it's christian (Just like any other of the million rock genres. It should JUST be rock)

[Transbrak]

Maybe you'll learn the some Christian rock is actually good to listen to, fun to play, and isn't a Christian attempt to implant propaganda and mind control inside your head.

Most things christians do are to implant propaganda, and to make themselves look better.

all you really need to do is watch the news or read a history book to know that, so i dont really need to listen to their crappy music.

[Flamingmonkey923]

Most things christians do are to implant propaganda, and to make themselves look better.

all you really need to do is watch the news or read a history book to know that, so i dont really need to listen to their crappy music.

*cough*KansasSchoolBoard*cough*

[Transbrak]

im fine with adding god is great songs i for everyone of those they add something like nine inch nails- heresy or tool-opiate (see ill sell my soul the christians to get good songs hehe)

[Tracer41506]

lets put the raptue in there by senses fail (if you look up the lyrics ull get the joke)

[Flamingmonkey923]

They should add this song to Rock Band

*removed, inflammatory

[Transbrak]

ahahahaha good find

[darknessmoon]

In the end, it all boils down to money. “It's no problem to just put it in as DLC and if you want it, get it, and if you don't, then don't" is so much easier said than done; it’s much more complex than that.

First off, you need a band's permission to use their song; whether it be for a commercial, a movie, a game, etc. (I don't know how hard it is to get that permission, but I do know it involves a lot of paperwork).

Second: Royalties. As far as royalties go, I believe that there are many different ways to go about this depending on the contract that comes with the permission to use a song. It could be a flat fee or it could be off of a certain percentage that is gained as profit from use of the song, etc.

Third: Time = Money. After gaining permission and discussing the royalties and what not, the song must be modified in order to play with the game. Well, not necessarily modifying the song itself (unless needed to and allowed by the band), but I mean adding in the “Rock Band components” for it to be playable with the game. It doesn’t seem entirely easy to make any song available. It’s obviously going to go through testing processes in order for it to play well with the game.

Considering all the factors I just mentioned above, I imagine that any song they pick to go into the game has to go through a long process involving paperwork, money (we don’t know Harmonix’s budget), and time to prep the song for the game. Whatever songs they choose would have to be something that would have to be beneficial to their time and money as the developers and to us as the consumers.

I’m not trying to say that Christian music is not worth the effort to put into the game, as I will not say that “all Christian bands suck,” but if they were to see it as not being profitable then it probably wouldn’t be beneficial to them to go through the hassle of what I mentioned above to make a song available for DLC “just because” and for only a few people to download them.

Or maybe some Christian bands have refused to give rights to their music as they may not want to be put in something alongside bands that play “the devil’s music.” Or maybe some just refused, period. Or maybe the Harmonix team isn’t too familiar with some of these Christian bands that were requested to be put in. Or maybe some songs simply wouldn’t work well with the game.

There could be many, many reasons, and none of us know neither what those reasons are nor what the exact process is, and because of that, all that we can do, as fans and consumers, is to ask, to request, and to hope that they can make it available for us. We can’t say that they will never put “so-and-so” in “cuz they are teh suxxorz.” Hell, I think Fall Out Boy sucks, yet they put it in the game. There are obviously enough people out there who like them for them to have been put in the game.

Alls I’m saying is, it’s not as easy as many of you may think…

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[Transbrak]

most of that applies to all dlc chosen for the game and has been stated in many different threads many different times

thanks for the long post though that musta taken along time to type oh and the more you know heheh thats great

[SenRaq]

This is a music forum and not a religious battleground. I appreciate those who have intelligent responses, for or against, any of the bands that I named above. I do not want to turn this well meaning "Christian Rock" post into something that it was not intended for. Perhaps I should have titled it differently, and for that I apologize. I would much rather have this music identified by the good bands and not by labels.

Please,please, I ask if we can limit this thread to just the bands themselves, and not get into religious talk. This is the wrong forum for that. Believe me, I would love to talk about Jesus or answer any other questions people might have about other religion's, but this is not the place to do it.

Lastly, we are all part of the diverse Rock Band community, and though are favorite bands and song choices may not be the same, it does not make them wrong. We should not be fighting each other, but embracing all the different perspectives on how we can make this a better game.

--SenRaq

[Sons_of_Kyuss]

Shouldn't we get Satanic rock first, then Christian rock can come in to save the day...

[Transbrak]

This is a music forum and not a religious battleground. I appreciate those who have intelligent responses, for or against, any of the bands that I named above. I do not want to turn this well meaning "Christian Rock" post into something that it was not intended for. Perhaps I should have titled it differently, and for that I apologize. I would much rather have this music identified by the good bands and not by labels.

Please,please, I ask if we can limit this thread to just the bands themselves, and not get into religious talk. This is the wrong forum for that. Believe me, I would love to talk about Jesus or answer any other questions people might have about other religion's, but this is not the place to do it.

Lastly, we are all part of the diverse Rock Band community, and though are favorite bands and song choices may not be the same, it does not make them wrong. We should not be fighting each other, but embracing all the different perspectives on how we can make this a better game.

--SenRaq

request bands not religions then you wouldnt have this problem

[darknessmoon]

This is a music forum and not a religious battleground. I appreciate those who have intelligent responses, for or against, any of the bands that I named above. I do not want to turn this well meaning "Christian Rock" post into something that it was not intended for. Perhaps I should have titled it differently, and for that I apologize. I would much rather have this music identified by the good bands and not by labels.

Please,please, I ask if we can limit this thread to just the bands themselves, and not get into religious talk. This is the wrong forum for that. Believe me, I would love to talk about Jesus or answer any other questions people might have about other religion's, but this is not the place to do it.

Lastly, we are all part of the diverse Rock Band community, and though are favorite bands and song choices may not be the same, it does not make them wrong. We should not be fighting each other, but embracing all the different perspectives on how we can make this a better game.

--SenRaq

Just be a bit careful... The forums are full of trolls, regardless of what community it may belong to. Read the bolded part of the quote below for a suggestion as to how to avoid these kinds of arguments.


I think some people are missing the point. Is flyleaf a good band? In my opinion yes. Is it because it's christian? No. It's because I like their music.

I'm tired of people who notice I listen to some bands like As I Lay Dying, Flyleaf, Demon Hunter, ect ect asking me if I'm a christian. And when I say no they are shocked saying things like "How can you listen to As I Lay Dying and not be christian?" Um... it's because I like metal music. I had no idea they were a christian band when I bought the CD.

What it really comes down to I think is that people shouldn't be asking for a band because it's a christan band. But because they like the band. So rather than "Include this christian band!" It should be more like "Include some Skillet!" or "Include some Relient K!" Whatever.

I'm not against christians or the music, I just hate the label that's placed on it and the idea that it's a different catagory of music because it's christian (Just like any other of the million rock genres. It should JUST be rock)

[darknessmoon]

most of that applies to all dlc chosen for the game and has been stated in many different threads many different times

thanks for the long post though that musta taken along time to type oh and the more you know heheh thats great

Heh, it did take me a long time. And yes, that pic is great, lol.

[HypodermicMD]

Not Christian, don't care for the music, but you'd be surprised as hell as to which bands identify as Christian. MxPx, Yellowcard, Switchfoot, etc..

[badtim]

i think that most of those bands you are listing would be right off the list, mainly because of the harsh stand on homosexuality. i mean, it's really close to hard core persecution at times.

[TheKT]

Ok I have to post my response to this... just because I want to.

As some one stated earlier, this shouldn't have been a religious band, non-religious band post. It should have been a (insert band here) post. But I digress. I, personally, like music for the music, not the genre. I enjoy, AC/DC, ZZTop, and everything in between (in an alphebetical sense, not musical style). I like Red, Skillet, and numorous other so called "Christian Bands", and while I did grow up in a Christian household, I don't go to church now, except on holidays. And I enjoy these bands not because they believe in God and are on a Christian Label, but because the music is good. If you don't like the music that's fine, you just shouldn't blacklist it just because some one says, "Hey this is a christian band". I know this isn't going to be a popular opinion and I'm sure some of you will instatly write off my opinion just based on this one remark but, oh well f*** it. I personally don't care for SOAD, I won't blast anyone for liking them, and I don't dislike them simply because they're "Alt Metal" or whatever genre they're classified under. I just don't like their music. The only point I'm trying to make is, don't be closeminded. Don't write music off just because it's in a genre that is popular to dislike. :cool:

[BrutalBrian]

[QUOTE=Flamingmonkey923;154555]They should add this song to Rock Band

*removed, inflammatory

I'll give that a +1! Nice choice.

[Luvac Zantor]

Why is the request for "Christian Bands" and not just request the bands by their names?

My only issue is that my understanding is with Christian music, it's unified agenda is to spread the "word". As long as I'm not forced to d/l it, ultimately who cares...

unless there's only so many songs they will be able to offer, but that seems silly.

[Cirbirus]

I'm a devout Agnostic and I have no problem with there being Christian rock songs; as long as they don't suck. I love that "Jesus Walks" song by Kanye West not because it's religious but because it has a great beat and sounds cool.

To me Christianity and fiction are one in the same and I don't hate fiction so why hate Christianity. If anything it amuses me that people are so easily brainwashed.

[X_Necro_X]

Christian Music is very uh... wide nowadays. You can look at bands like RED and despite being Christian, many seculars such as myself can appreciate their sound and style. Christian Music is becoming more mainstream..even though you don't immediately acknowledge it as Christian since it is mainly spoken through metaphors.

[mojo23]

What is wrong with offering it for a download?

If you do not want it, do not download it. The ones who want it will pay for it.

Not that big of a deal.

I would download some of it, but I do not care for Christian Music (except a few bands).

I think the main issue is that there is a degree of capital investment that goes with making a song available for RB. If there isn't sufficient fan base to support it, they'll lose money on the deal. So, I don't go for the god rock myself, but hey folks, if you like that stuff then post requesting it. If they get enough requests, they might just do it.

[SenRaq]

Regardless of how narrow minded some people can be. Not everyone listens to the same type of rock music. And for good or bad, we have music genres and labels. When I buy music off of itunes, under the music tabs section I can look for pop/rock/R&B/electroniic and yes Christian. When I click on the Christian tab, I buy the Rock that is associated with that tab, thus you have Christian Rock. The albums of Skillet/Red/Jeremy Camp/David Crowder Band are not offered under the tab of Rock. There is also variety within the Christian Rock genre and not all rock music is created equal. It is hypocritical for people to suggest that Christian Rock cannot be a genre, and by the way it is the fastest growing segment of music for the last few years. Just like we have punk rock, hard rock, classic rock etc...etc...Ultimately all these forms of rock are very different from each other thus we have different rock categories. In reality, it makes it much easier to identify the music you want to buy, instead of surfing through a bunch of albums that you don't care about.

I have a feeling that Harmonix will offer a variety of rock music to please as many fans as possible. Will everyones favorite bands be on the game, it is safe to say No, but the bigger variety they can offer, the better it will be for everyone. Will I like all the music they offer in the future, probably not, but I will not go on other peoples threads attacking them for music they like and what they want added.

Know your rights to RRRROOOOOCCCCKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Transbrak]

Regardless of how narrow minded some people can be. Not everyone listens to the same type of rock music. And for good or bad, we have music genres and labels. When I buy music off of itunes, under the music tabs section I can look for pop/rock/R&B/electroniic and yes Christian. When I click on the Christian tab, I buy the Rock that is associated with that tab, thus you have Christian Rock. The albums of Skillet/Red/Jeremy Camp/David Crowder Band are not offered under the tab of Rock. There is also variety within the Christian Rock genre and not all rock music is created equal. It is hypocritical for people to suggest that Christian Rock cannot be a genre, and by the way it is the fastest growing segment of music for the last few years. Just like we have punk rock, hard rock, classic rock etc...etc...Ultimately all these forms of rock are very different from each other thus we have different rock categories. In reality, it makes it much easier to identify the music you want to buy, instead of surfing through a bunch of albums that you don't care about.

I have a feeling that Harmonix will offer a variety of rock music to please as many fans as possible. Will everyones favorite bands be on the game, it is safe to say No, but the bigger variety they can offer, the better it will be for everyone. Will I like all the music they offer in the future, probably not, but I will not go on other peoples threads attacking them for music they like and what they want added.

Know your rights to RRRROOOOOCCCCKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i dont call music mormon rock or jewish rock or well you get the picture music should be classified by the genre not the religion how is christian alternative different from alternative, musically its not so why not classify it as alternative.....the only purpose it serves is that it makes all the litte christian sheep happy and keep them buying it to praise god. i have no problem with you suggesting a band, but suggest a religion then as you can see everyone is going to give their opinion


and to the poster about fiction...good point but you cant call a book a bestseller when its given away and/or forcefed to so many people. I wish more people could think for theselves.

"choices always were a problem for you what you need is someone strong to guide you"

[Quinarvy]

I'm agreeing with everything you say Transbark, people are requesting Christian Bands, not just a band. I could care less when they request a band, but when they say "More Christian Rock" its like...what? Really, whats diffrent about it other then the lyrics...which would technically be spreading "the message", so technically there requesting the religion, not the band.

Also...Underoath??? You know they only get requests cause there a popular Christian band.

[dujo_05]

Go Skillet!!!! They Rock In Concert

[Black_Heaven]

If your "genre" is made because of the lyrics and not the sound of the music, just how hard can it rock? Really, you can record the heavist, evilist sounding death metal song, but if the lyrics go on about how you like ponies and cooking in your easy bake oven, I'm just going to laugh at it and not take it serious.

Make the Church pay taxes and maybe then, just maybe I'll stop looking at them like they're a bunch of "special" kids. Cause if I have to put up with the bastards wanting to play goverment politics and actually end up making laws for their cause then they need to quit being treated like some kind of ****** that gets a free ride. At this point Church seperate from State is a goddamn joke.

Quote me and argue if ya want, I'm not sticking around to refute your rebuttal to my post. Religion related arguements on the interenet stink too damn much for me to stick around after I state my opinion.

Edit:
Wait your telling me the word R E T A R D, is offensive enough to be censored? WTF. It'd be great if word censors worked off of the context of a word used, not just the word itself. There's no such thing as a bad word, just bad context.

[ShotgunLollipop]

If your "genre" is made because of the lyrics and not the sound of the music, just how hard can it rock? Really, you can record the heavist, evilist sounding death metal song, but if the lyrics go on about how you like ponies and cooking in your easy bake oven, I'm just going to laugh at it and not take it serious..

Wow. Ponies and your easy bake oven?
Its time to meet your maker boy.
you dead and gone.
maybe when you meet beelzebub you'll think again.




http://youtube.com/watch?v=YwMfqP-nrUU

[Kingfish]

request bands not religions then you wouldnt have this problem

You think maybe because those with an agenda will "see" through any list that exclusively consists of "Christian" bands?

You think it might have gone something like this... "HEY! That’s a list of Christian bands...YOU SUCK!"

Whacha think? Plausable?

I personally think its funny and hell that those that supposedly have the broadest mindset, those MOST open to all things in life seem to scream the loudest when religion is even whispered.

[ShotgunLollipop]

I personally think its funny and hell that those that supposedly have the broadest mindset, those MOST open to all things in life seem to scream the loudest when religion is even whispered.

i personally didnt find any sense in that..

wouldn't christians have the narrowest mindset?

they just believe in the truth.
i'd say everyone who isn't a christian has the MOST open mindset.

they're open to everything.. but for some reason people choose to block out Christianity.

[Jest684]

Whatever, good music is good music regardless of genre. Some are open minded, some aren't and topics like this happen. I personally do not like Christian music although I am Chrisitian, it doesn't sound good to me. There is a market out there for those that want Christian music, it may be a smaller one that most but it's still there.

Bottom line, if it's released for downloadable content, don't download if you don't want. What does it hurt you?

[Requiem]

I WOULD PAY FOR GOOD CHRISTIAN CONTENT

This is a silly statement. Why get so specific? Why not just say "I WOULD PAY FOR GOOD MUSIC" and be done with it? If that good music happens to be Christian, neato, win for you. I am a devout atheist and I would have no issue in downloading a "Christian" song if it were fun. People need to get their heads out of their asses... on both sides of this argument.

[PeaceKeeper]

I would like to see some Christian DLC (Example: Thousand Foot Krutch). Why? Because that is the music I listen to and enjoy the most.

[Highlandlassie]

I would pay a lot for some Creed.
Not exactly christian rock, but close.

[xTheTruth72x]

i'm kinda disheartened that they keep closing all the "christian" threads. its not fair really. i mean in the list of genres there are metal, rock, alternative, christian, rap, etc. its a type of music. but everyone turns it into a religious debate. its a game! play what you like. i dont discredit or judge anyone for their ideas or faiths, i just wanna play some music and have a post last long enough so we can make some good suggestions for christian genre music to add to RB. so please, if you dont want this music added, dont just flame they post and make everyone angry then have it be closed again. someone WILL post another. its gaurenteed. <sigh>

ok now down to the reason, i would LOVE to see PAX 217 on RB! sandbox praise, prism, intricate, good songs!!! PLEASE OH PLEASE add them harmonix!!!!

[blackjack]

Alright, I know Flyleaf is a Christian band and I thank you for that. If you can bring in more of their music that would be cool. Two must have bands that would kill this game would be Skillet and Disciple. Many people would pay to add Christian Rock Bands to their Rock Band game, much like the Metallica and The Police add ons that are coming later. Thank You.


It doesnt matter if the band is christian I couldnt care less. Most christians belive in stupid crap like the trinity. It matters if their LYRICS send a clear message. There is a band at my church called Grace-O-Rama (I know the name is silly thats the point) their songs send a clear message. I dont care about these bands that say their christian just to get moms to buy it for their kids.

[blackjack]

i'm kinda disheartened that they keep closing all the "christian" threads. its not fair really. i mean in the list of genres there are metal, rock, alternative, christian, rap, etc. its a type of music. but everyone turns it into a religious debate. its a game! play what you like. i dont discredit or judge anyone for their ideas or faiths, i just wanna play some music and have a post last long enough so we can make some good suggestions for christian genre music to add to RB. so please, if you dont want this music added, dont just flame they post and make everyone angry then have it be closed again. someone WILL post another. its gaurenteed. <sigh>

ok now down to the reason, i would LOVE to see PAX 217 on RB! sandbox praise, prism, intricate, good songs!!! PLEASE OH PLEASE add them harmonix!!!!


I do because their wrong. Look god told a certian someone to MOCK the prophets of Balamm. He asked if their god was ASLEEP. God is the only god Jews, Muslims and Mormons are just some of the people that are stupid as hell. Im a REAL christian not a fake one. Ive got the Holy Spirit, so GUESS WHAT? If im hurt I get healed hell, I can even raise someone from the dead if I have revalation form God. I have direct acess to him, I can speak in tounges and interprate, prophesy, cast out devil sprits and much more. Can any "Religion" do that Christianity isnt a religion because religion means something man does to try to please god. I have no "Religion" I have the truth.

[blackjack]

Aw, little babies are too offended to post? Wah wah wah! Go back to worshiping the Devil. You pegan scum.

[Legna_fo_Htaed]

Ha Christian. i got a christian band. Throw some Deicide in the game.....

[HMXJohnlok]

i'm kinda disheartened that they keep closing all the "christian" threads. its not fair really. i mean in the list of genres there are metal, rock, alternative, christian, rap, etc. its a type of music. but everyone turns it into a religious debate. its a game! play what you like. i dont discredit or judge anyone for their ideas or faiths, i just wanna play some music and have a post last long enough so we can make some good suggestions for christian genre music to add to RB. so please, if you dont want this music added, dont just flame they post and make everyone angry then have it be closed again. someone WILL post another. its gaurenteed. <sigh>

ok now down to the reason, i would LOVE to see PAX 217 on RB! sandbox praise, prism, intricate, good songs!!! PLEASE OH PLEASE add them harmonix!!!!

They get locked because people cannot play nice when it comes to religion. Flip through the comments in this thread and the others, and you'll see what I mean.

Leave the discussion at music, please. There are places where you can trash ideas, religion and music. This is not one of them, and I do not support the places that do.

[Smidget]

If this thread doesn't stay on track, meaning aboout Christian music requests that would work in the game, it will most likely get locked.

EDIT: we posted at the same time, doh!

[Smidget]

takin' back to the music with one of the greatest guitarists of our time, Phil Keaggy:

Glass Harp - Never is a Long Time 1972

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Glass Harp - Changes 1972

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[Incoment Troll]

Christian rock Rules! yes Iam a troll. Yes none of yall know what a troll is. YES CHRISTIAN ROCK RULES!!!!!

[Bryan Atomic]

Wow. Ponies and your easy bake oven?
Its time to meet your maker boy.
you dead and gone.
maybe when you meet beelzebub you'll think again.




http://youtube.com/watch?v=YwMfqP-nrUU

This is why christian music is not welcome. Just what we need, 100 more people like you running around begging for lame music and telling everyone who requests slayer or some other music they are going to hell.

Roll your hell up into a tight little bundle, stick it up your pretentious little ass, and keep thinking your **** dont stink. Judge not less you be judged, or so your bible says! guess you should be ready to bunk up beelzebub himself.

Athiest and proud, keep rock band propaganda free!

[CaptainCoins]

I want a mature song pack! With all the cussing the song intends to have. There is nothing wrong with cussing anyway, songs are always better unedited.

[blackjack]

This is why christian music is not welcome. Just what we need, 100 more people like you running around begging for lame music and telling everyone who requests slayer or some other music they are going to hell.

Roll your hell up into a tight little bundle, stick it up your pretentious little ass, and keep thinking your **** dont stink. Judge not less you be judged, or so your bible says! guess you should be ready to bunk up beelzebub himself.

Athiest and proud, keep rock band propaganda free!



Well,


1. Hell means the grave so everyone is going to hell unless theyre alive during the return even if your an athiest *****bag
2.Science, Wow they break alot of their own rules. Where did the first Particals that caused the big bang come from? Where did life come from if all life comes from other life? Non-living chemicals CANNOT produce life. God has to be in the mix somewhere.
3.Going into the lake of fire or Heaven doesnt take works. I could murder someone now and still go to heaven. Its all about believing that god sent Jesus Christ (who was not god. The trinity is moronic) to die for everyone. If you truley accept that Jesus Christ is lord and god is our father you go to heaven. Simple as that.


Oh, Hope you have fun just dieing and just sitting there dead forever accordiong to your religion. What happens to your thoughts, your mind, And you have no spirit so all that can be taken away from you is your soul which means life. Soul doesnt mean your collective thoughts. You have no spirit. Have fun breaking you arm and having to deal with it, as for me, by Christs stripes I was healed so im fine. Ive broken my arm, legs, fingers and neck and they all got healed on the spot. In short **** you Athiest scum. You give LIFE a bad name.

[Archaeus_MD]

People who are athesist need to just let others be. This game is for everyone. Not just non-believers. Skillet would be amazing on Rock Band. They are an amazing band and I would download any Christian music if they put it on there.

However, if it's introduced then you could have people saying, "What about other types of religions?" Which I don't want to see a whole war go on from it. Also, they have to think what is going to sell more, for instance: Linkin Park or Skillet. There's a chance to see select bands on there, but I don't see a mass amount of Christian music flooding the marketplace.

[Bryan Atomic]

Well,


1. Hell means the grave so everyone is going to hell unless theyre alive during the return even if your an athiest *****bag
2.Science, Wow they break alot of their own rules. Where did the first Particals that caused the big bang come from? Where did life come from if all life comes from other life? Non-living chemicals CANNOT produce life. God has to be in the mix somewhere.
3.Going into the lake of fire or Heaven doesnt take works. I could murder someone now and still go to heaven. Its all about believing that god sent Jesus Christ (who was not god. The trinity is moronic) to die for everyone. If you truley accept that Jesus Christ is lord and god is our father you go to heaven. Simple as that.


Oh, Hope you have fun just dieing and just sitting there dead forever accordiong to your religion. What happens to your thoughts, your mind, And you have no spirit so all that can be taken away from you is your soul which means life. Soul doesnt mean your collective thoughts. You have no spirit. Have fun breaking you arm and having to deal with it, as for me, by Christs stripes I was healed so im fine. Ive broken my arm, legs, fingers and neck and they all got healed on the spot. In short **** you Athiest scum. You give LIFE a bad name.

You are either very stupid, or very crazy.

1. Hell does not mean the grave, sheol is the jewish term that means the grave. If "hell" means we all die, then not a single christian is going to heaven... you are all destined for hell. The big coutneract to your entire farking argument is In the old testiment all people ended up in hell, apon jesus death he went to hell and took the keys to it, so not everyone goes to hell now. Read a book, maybe the one you believe so much in.

2. Science doesnt "break a lot of their own rules". You clearly have no clue what science even is, as you are comparing a method of learning to a religion. This just goes to show how stupid most of you religious nuts are, you instantly put education at odds with your religion. "YOu dont believe in god, well, SCIENCE IS WRONG!" is not an excusable counter point to "Science has yet to find proof that god exists".

Science=Explaining the universe threw a system of experiments and methods. Discarding what you find is wrong and accepting change.

Religion= Explaining the universe threw a series of stories told by primitive nomadic sheep hearders with no proof to back said stories up. Dont even try to argue that you have proof, because you dont. That is why FAITH takes a major role in your world. And faith, mind you, is a belief in something with a lack of substancial evidence.

You fail twice.

3. This is all immaterial horse crap and personal belief. You have no proof that backs up your magical claims of lakes of fire and giant heavenly doughnut shops. Lets say I believe that a magical lake wizard lives out back in my pond, so I write a book about it. I have everything your religion has, I have a book, and and improvable deity. You would call me crazy I bet, but apparently the only thing that seperates the crazy from the religious is how many are standing around shouting the same thing.

Also, you apparently dont know what ATHEIST means. I dont have a religion, I dont have a belief.


"Have fun breaking you arm and having to deal with it, as for me, by Christs stripes I was healed so im fine. Ive broken my arm, legs, fingers and neck and they all got healed on the spot. In short **** you Athiest scum. You give LIFE a bad name"

Ok at this point you just sound like some sort of ******ed loonatic. So your magical invisible sky wizard made your arms and legs and neck go from fractured to healed in an instant? I am calling the bull**** wagon on this one. Christs stripes? Is that like fruit stripes or something? I never heard of this wacky **** before even from the most devout. I bet your "healing" had less to do with jesus, and more to do with the doctors working round the clock to put your dumb ass back togeather again. If you even had such an event happen (which is highly unlikely). Lets do a test, stab yourself in the stomache with a butcher knife, I mean stab yourself good and deep. then just start praying! If god magically removes the knife and seals you up. HUZZAH! GOD IZ REAL! If not, atleast you will be in ****** heaven with the rest of the special ed babies.

Now in short, its easy to say you are a christian. But telling an athiest **** you is the only way to PROVE it! jesus aproves!

[Transbrak]

a really great example of my the mods should ban religious requests.

or at least religious threads if you want to discuss how much so and so band does jesus's laundry or buys him a frappucino every day go ahead just leave it out of the topic

[HMXJohnlok]

Thread locked:

See the other thread I had to lock, copying my response from there.

I'm truly disappointed that this thread turned into a bunch of trashing. People want to talk about music. Music is music is music. Period. If something kicks ass, we want it in our game. Of course, there is a ton of kick ass music out there, so we can't please everybody.

What it comes down to is good music. Please rethink all of this negativity, it doesn't do anybody in this thread any good, and it doesn't do *good music* justice.

I'm going to review this thread, and I'm pretty sure a ban or two is going to be thrown out.