View Full Version : Is there a trick to calibrating?
sarkster@sarkster.com
11-25-2007, 07:31 PM
Hi
UK RB importer here.
As a seasoned GH1/2/3 player (Can hold my own on Expert) I am having trouble believing that I keep missing so many easy notes in songs on the guitar. Not even on hard solo's but simple rhythm stuff that you would do with your eyes closed on GH.
I have tried using the calibration bit but I am still struggling and it doesnt feel 'right' That said, I am not keen on this guitar. With the old GH controllers strum bar click you at least knew youd 'hit' something and when you'd 'hit' it.
Anyone else struggling similarly? Im playing on a 42" Panny PX60 plasma through HDMI (PS3 - forgot to mention) with the sound going thru optical to a Sony 5.1 decoder.
Cheers.
Bjorn
11-26-2007, 12:17 AM
I have the 360 version but am having similar problems calibrating for lag. I am a GH vet and can play 90% of GH songs on expert, but I am having difficulty playing on medium in Rock Band due to some strange lag. Unlike GH2 and GH3 where the calibration works, Rock Band's calibration is weird. You can manually adjust the lag from -500ms to +500ms and neither will help. Granted, most people's lag will need to be set at about 35ms, give or take, but just to experiment I tried setting the lag at maximum just to see what kind of effect it has. Here's the part that doesn't make sense: You're expected to strum/drum when the colored note crosses the target bar, right? Well calibrating the lag doesn't delay the image, it delays when notes can be hit, resulting in notes turning red (being missed) long before or after they pass the target bar. Basically, calibrating your lag doesn't help any, all it does is make the target bar useless and force you to guess when a note should be hit. Try this out for yourself and see what I mean. Manually set your lag to -500 and you'll see the notes turn red about 1 1/2 seconds before they cross the target bar. If the calibration tool was useful, the visual output would have a -500ms delay, but the notes wouldn't turn red until after they crossed the target bar, not long before. In the end, although most people's lag is about 35ms, setting the lag to anything but the default 0ms means that using the visual cue is no longer useful since you're no longer aiming for the target.
macafied
11-26-2007, 01:36 AM
Disable 5.1 sound and or run audio analog. Should help with some of the lag.
Paulyester
11-26-2007, 07:58 AM
I'm ready to take mine back because of the same problem. I can hit about 95% accuracy on Expert in most GH songs. I haven't completed one song on Hard in RB. Very frustrated. I'll give it a few days but once my in store return window nears, if nothing changes, this sucker is going back.
Micker
11-26-2007, 08:17 AM
Disable 5.1 sound and or run audio analog. Should help with some of the lag.
Audio lag is a seperate issue. I have a DLP tv and just set it to dlp in the menu and it seems perfect. I have never played GH, but I did medium no problem. I hear the strum box is much tighter on RB then GH, maybe your timing is off?? Hit the colored keys and strum bar and see if you can visually see a lag on screen after you push them.
Xero314
11-26-2007, 09:04 AM
It took me a while to get the calibration set up correctly on my system so I have a simple suggestion. Use manual calibration because you will most likely run into both audio and video lag and the preset values only handle video lag. Do the manual calibration for both audio and video multiple times as the audio calibration will effect your video calibration and vice versa. And if you set audio calibration then you MUST manually set the video calibration (which may even be a negative value depending on how bad you audio lag is).
No Reason to lose the 5.1 sound just because of lag, it is adjustable just takes some practice. Plus if you are used to the GH games then you are used to play with lag as none of the previous GH games where able to be calibrated effectively, so you might just have to adjust your playing (stop anticipating notes and play them when they are supposed to be played).
SEMINOLE
11-26-2007, 11:01 AM
Sooo you are saying it is acceptable to get a NEGATIVE ms when calibrating the video? I have never seen this even on guitar hero and it makes no sense to me to have a negative value. It doesn't matter what instrument or even the controller I try to callibrate with, its always negative (35-50).
juani
11-26-2007, 11:42 AM
Hi
UK RB importer here.
As a seasoned GH1/2/3 player (Can hold my own on Expert) I am having trouble believing that I keep missing so many easy notes in songs on the guitar. Not even on hard solo's but simple rhythm stuff that you would do with your eyes closed on GH.
I have tried using the calibration bit but I am still struggling and it doesnt feel 'right' That said, I am not keen on this guitar. With the old GH controllers strum bar click you at least knew youd 'hit' something and when you'd 'hit' it.
Anyone else struggling similarly? Im playing on a 42" Panny PX60 plasma through HDMI (PS3 - forgot to mention) with the sound going thru optical to a Sony 5.1 decoder.
Cheers.
I have an PS3 RB and i have the same problem here. What i notice is that the PS light on the guitar sometime turn off for a second and then turn back on. When that happend, is when i lost control of my guitar and miss my notes. I change batteries but i still have the same problems.
I hope someone help me here...
thanks
blitzkrieg519
11-26-2007, 07:52 PM
Hi
UK RB importer here.
As a seasoned GH1/2/3 player (Can hold my own on Expert) I am having trouble believing that I keep missing so many easy notes in songs on the guitar. Not even on hard solo's but simple rhythm stuff that you would do with your eyes closed on GH.
I have tried using the calibration bit but I am still struggling and it doesnt feel 'right' That said, I am not keen on this guitar. With the old GH controllers strum bar click you at least knew youd 'hit' something and when you'd 'hit' it.
Anyone else struggling similarly? Im playing on a 42" Panny PX60 plasma through HDMI (PS3 - forgot to mention) with the sound going thru optical to a Sony 5.1 decoder.
Cheers.
blitzkrieg519 here,
i think there is an issue regarding the use of HD tv's in regards to ROCK BAND try recalbrating the game. turn off your console, turn it back on, reload the game recalibrate automatically (of course choose the type of tv you ar using!) and then try playing again. solved mine by doing this. i own a samsung 42" plasma. and i'm doing great as of now.
Xero314
11-27-2007, 01:29 AM
Sooo you are saying it is acceptable to get a NEGATIVE ms when calibrating the video? I have never seen this even on guitar hero and it makes no sense to me to have a negative value. It doesn't matter what instrument or even the controller I try to callibrate with, its always negative (35-50).
You will get a negative value on the video if your audio lag is more than you video lag. For example on my system the audio lag is 155ms so the system sets itself to lag the entire game (audio and video) by 155ms, but my video lag is only 100ms so it has to set the video lag back by 55ms, so it has a lag value of -55ms. At least this is how I understand it.
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