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SenorBerns
12-22-2008, 04:16 PM
So i come on MSN today and my friend messages me instantly I BOUGHT GHWT!!! And I just respond with Why'd you waste your money He goes on saying how GHWT>Rb2 no details he just says, rockband sucks GHWT rules blah blah. im like ok. i then started to list every detail of the pros and cons of both and how the odds tilt in Rb2's favor. He then goes on to say Its still better I asked for proof like I gave him. He had nothing.

GH fanboys :P pfft

PCTraitor
12-22-2008, 04:20 PM
It's sad that brand name trumps quality in this case. I see people walking out of Best Buy with so many copies of GH I have almost stopped them to tell them they are making a huge mistake.

Johnny Webb
12-22-2008, 04:22 PM
i bought ghwt and sold it two weeks later. i tell anyone who asks that rb is better, but do they listen? no.

Avatar_Ko
12-22-2008, 04:22 PM
Ohmygod! There was this guy and he came over and he was like
Weeeeeeeee!

cmenear
12-22-2008, 04:23 PM
I had a friend tell me that he had RB under the tree for xmas, until his son decided that he wanted GH:WT instead...so he took RB back and got GH:WT.

I tell everyone, before making this horrible mistake, come to my house. Play them both, understand what you're getting yourself into (just don't mind the dust on the broken GH:WT drumkit).

SenorBerns
12-22-2008, 04:23 PM
he was just trying to prove to himself he didnt waste his money, but he knows he did

Cojack426
12-22-2008, 04:24 PM
The drum chart on GHWT is hard to read and makes my mind explode. Not fun.

FlameSama1
12-22-2008, 04:24 PM
Funny thing is, I was at Kmart a few days ago.

DOZENS of copies of GH:WT, Aerosmith, and Rock Revolution (a few GHIIIs too). Not a single Rock Band 1 or 2, and I was looking too.

tidu
12-22-2008, 04:35 PM
It's sad that brand name trumps quality in this case. I see people walking out of Best Buy with so many copies of GH I have almost stopped them to tell them they are making a huge mistake.

I've made a huge mistake

dragonanthony86
12-22-2008, 04:37 PM
i love rock band but i'm still buying GHWT
i don't get why people on these forums talk about that like its a bad thing

mercuryshadow09
12-22-2008, 04:38 PM
How many people in here bashing GHWT have actually played it?

JohnTheDrummer
12-22-2008, 04:39 PM
The circular notes are harder to tell if two pads are supposed to be hit at the same time, on Rock Band they line up, circles are like WTF.

I bought it... haven't played it in a while, so I may sell it.

kiggidykev
12-22-2008, 04:39 PM
Rb2 fanboys :P pfft

Wait, do you mean GH:WT fanboys? I'm confused.

afterstasis
12-22-2008, 04:42 PM
my roommate likes mcdonalds, and i'm all "whateva'"!

jaycizzo
12-22-2008, 04:43 PM
I bought GH:WT first and like it. I just recently bought RB2 (disk only) and I enjoy that as well. The more the merrier!

Metric-Inchworm
12-22-2008, 04:44 PM
It's sad that brand name trumps quality in this case. I see people walking out of Best Buy with so many copies of GH I have almost stopped them to tell them they are making a huge mistake.

Worst part is, Harmonix is the one who made that brand name so well known. Guitar Hero II is known as one of the greatest 360 games. Developed by harmonix, not activision, or whoever does it. I played World Tour at my church with some friends. We instantly took it out and switched back to RB2.

SenorBerns
12-22-2008, 04:44 PM
Wait, do you mean GH:WT fanboys? I'm confused.

haha yeah oops :P


And I have played both btw.

woofmix
12-22-2008, 04:45 PM
How many people in here bashing GHWT have actually played it?

I have played it, its better then Guitar Hero 3, but not by much. However, My X-box is a Rock Band fanboy and made a huge crack in my Guitar Hero: World Tour disc and now I have to buy a new one. I'm not sure if I want to though.

kraven
12-22-2008, 04:50 PM
I'm 100% rockband. Mostly cause I'm too invested in DLC, and I don't want to buy DLC for both.

It's also because of WT's setup and gameplay. I hate their buttons, and instruments. I don't like the way it shakes when you miss a note. The charts seem crazy, and I'm not a fan of the open strum on bass, and the purple lines for solos. Some of that is just being more used to RB, but it's also just plain annoying.

NickyStardust
12-22-2008, 04:52 PM
I've played it and was excited as hell when I copped it...10 mins after starting playing all I felt like doing was switch the disc to RB 2. It's kinda sad really.

mercuryshadow09
12-22-2008, 04:53 PM
I have played it, its better then Guitar Hero 3, but not by much. However, My X-box is a Rock Band fanboy and made a huge crack in my Guitar Hero: World Tour disc and now I have to buy a new one. I'm not sure if I want to though.

I'm more curious to know about the people who havent played it yet, it seems too me that you cant really have an accurate opinion of your own unless you've actually played the game, are people just spewing somebody elses opinion?

Samuel346
12-22-2008, 04:57 PM
My personal opinions aside(I never liked Guitar hero even when Harmonix made it circle notes and annoying background to fret boards is a huge turn off):

We rented World tour and it sat in the box for two weeks before I took it back, Rock band is played daily.

My brother thinks Guitar Hero is better, I ask him why he didn't play it when we rented it... no intelligent answer is given.

SenorBerns
12-22-2008, 04:59 PM
My brother thinks Guitar Hero is better, I ask him why he didn't play it when we rented it... no intelligent answer is given.

Never is.

Samuel346
12-22-2008, 05:00 PM
Never is.

It was only played once... and I played it more than him.

ThatAuthoringGroup
12-22-2008, 05:02 PM
How many people in here bashing GHWT have actually played it?

I have.

But I'm not bashing it.

I just didn't prefer the way they had things set up in GHWT. It was all right, but it wasn't Rock band if you know what I mean. So I traded it in about two weeks later. Got bored with it pretty quickly. Without the challenges, and the integrated DLC, you really run out of things to do in GHWT quickly.

So I'll stand by Rock band franchise, and figure I can wait until Activision runs the GH franchise into the ground through oversaturation(like they did with Tony Hawk), and wait for the songs I want to play in the GH games to get scooped up by Rock band when they're the only game in town.

I'm patient. I can wait :)

Starfleet_Rambo
12-22-2008, 05:03 PM
Thank God another one of these GH:WT sucks and Rock Band rulz threads popped up!

It's been too long. :rolleyes:

ThatAuthoringGroup
12-22-2008, 05:09 PM
Thank God another one of these GH:WT sucks and Rock Band rulz threads popped up!

It's been too long. :rolleyes:

You should go to the Ghwt forums.

It's like the exact same thing, only reversed!

It's bizarro rock band over there :D

Starfleet_Rambo
12-22-2008, 05:11 PM
You should go to the Ghwt forums.

It's like the exact same thing, only reversed!

It's bizarro rock band over there :D

An alternate dimension I can see in real time with this one.

This frightens me. :eek:

WeNeedMoreCowbell
12-22-2008, 05:12 PM
This is not so much about fanboyism than simple math

Lets say the games are about even...and in some ways they are being that now both have a full band experiene and the peripherals are interchangeable.

Lets pretend that the charting is just a matter of preference and that what ever you get use to is what is better.

THe difference for me is real simple. RB has over 500 songs and have consistently given DLC every week. You would be hard pressed to find a person who doesnt have a bunch of songs in the DLC who they like

On the other hand...how many songs does GH have? How much DLC have they produced? How many songs are direct from the RB library.

Now, I am thinking about picking up GHWT (just the game) to play with my RB stuff. But I am looking at it as expensive DLC...not its own game

RB wins just on pure content....For those of you old enough to remember when VHS videos were competing with Beta videotapes...its the same. Everyon got a VHS videotape player because there werent as many movies out on Beta

HedgeDuck
12-22-2008, 05:13 PM
I have both and there are pros and cons on both.

Worst feature in RB2 is the rectangle shaped notes. The round notes on GH is so much more appealing and easier to read.

Worst feature in GHWT is that you have to change disks depending on what you want to play.

Best of RB2 lots of DLC and you can play all songs with the RB2 disc. BTW, I need a bigger hard drive!!

Best of GHWT the best online stats and daily tournements where you can win prizes.

GHWT sucks this round on instruments with faulty design and bad quality control. Oh and the support is the wort that I have seen.

gurdoman
12-22-2008, 05:14 PM
That is the problem with FANBOYS either console or music game fanboys, they think they own a company or something, is like people bashing PS3/360/WII without even trying the damn console.
I LOVED guitar hero, and I loved the nintendo 64 over the playstation, but when i tried ps2 i liked it more, in the new generation of consoles i have the 3 of them, and i like more the PS3, but i have the grounds to like it more, i've played them all and own them all.
Is the same for me with gh or rb, i've played every gh there is (except for the aerosmith), and gh3 MADE ME try something new, then rb came along, and the coop play, cool charts, more clean graphics, etc. made me like it WAAAAAAAAAAY more than gh.
I've tried GHWT and i can say it really really really sucks.

Loxone
12-22-2008, 05:14 PM
How are these threads still coming up.

A good friend would have been happy for his other friend and not tried to make him feel like he wasted his money. Maybe that's just me though.

Shingotink
12-22-2008, 05:17 PM
I bought GHWT because it has some great songs that are currently not available (and possibly never will be) in Rock Band.

It's a fun game, but RB trumps it in every way especially presentation and game types (of course this is just my opinion).

Samuel346
12-22-2008, 05:18 PM
I have both and there are pros and cons on both.

Worst feature in RB2 is the rectangle shaped notes. The round notes on GH is so much more appealing and easier to read.

Worst feature in GHWT is that you have to change disks depending on what you want to play.

Best of RB2 lots of DLC and you can play all songs with the RB2 disc. BTW, I need a bigger hard drive!!

Best of GHWT the best online stats and daily tournements where you can win prizes.

GHWT sucks this round on instruments with faulty design and bad quality control. Oh and the support is the wort that I have seen.

I would say the worst feature of World Tour is a World Tour mode that really doesn't have much of an objective besides playing the 85 songs.

And rectangle notes make me love Rock band.<3

Metric-Inchworm
12-22-2008, 05:18 PM
Worst feature in RB2 is the rectangle shaped notes. The round notes on GH is so much more appealing and easier to read.

Many, including myself, see that as a pro, not a con. I like the rectangles.

Samuel346
12-22-2008, 05:20 PM
I bought GHWT because it has some great songs that are currently not available (and possibly never will be) in Rock Band.

I asked my brother to pick out 6 songs that he likes on World Tour that aren't on Rock Band 2. He couldn't. And Neither can I.

Less than 6 songs for that price? No thanks.

HedgeDuck
12-22-2008, 05:22 PM
This is not so much about fanboyism than simple math

Lets say the games are about even...and in some ways they are being that now both have a full band experiene and the peripherals are interchangeable.

Lets pretend that the charting is just a matter of preference and that what ever you get use to is what is better.

THe difference for me is real simple. RB has over 500 songs and have consistently given DLC every week. You would be hard pressed to find a person who doesnt have a bunch of songs in the DLC who they like

On the other hand...how many songs does GH have? How much DLC have they produced? How many songs are direct from the RB library.

Now, I am thinking about picking up GHWT (just the game) to play with my RB stuff. But I am looking at it as expensive DLC...not its own game

RB wins just on pure content....For those of you old enough to remember when VHS videos were competing with Beta videotapes...its the same. Everyon got a VHS videotape player because there werent as many movies out on Beta

Sorry but price was the winning factor in that battle.

GHWT has Ozzy, Black Label Society, and Van Halen
If there were ANY Ozzy or BLS in RB then I would be leaning more towards RB.

AndrewAvenger
12-22-2008, 05:25 PM
I made the big mistake of buying the full band WT kit. I HATE THE DRUMS!!!!! They miss-hit, double hit, crosstalk, you name it. The vocals are a joke. An FC is literally impossible on expert.

My drum kit is as good as eBay-ed as soon as I get my new camera.

Metric-Inchworm
12-22-2008, 05:28 PM
I would have bought GHWT, but on the wii, the RB peripherals aren't GH compatible, and I dislike the GH guitars/drums. I have the GH3 guitars just sitting in a corner, in case an RB guitar runs out of batteries in a hardcore multiplayer match. That happened. And the guitarist went up and got batteries for the rock band guitar rather than to play the GH3 one.

Samuel346
12-22-2008, 05:31 PM
Sorry but price was the winning factor in that battle.

GHWT has Ozzy, Black Label Society, and Van Halen
If there were ANY Ozzy or BLS in RB then I would be leaning more towards RB.

You spent that much money for 3 songs?

Mitmir
12-22-2008, 05:31 PM
I think they are both pretty good lol, two of my friends have it and they say it is awesome

BT67
12-22-2008, 05:33 PM
How are these threads still coming up.

A good friend would have been happy for his other friend and not tried to make him feel like he wasted his money. Maybe that's just me though.

I agree I'm happy my buddy bought GH:WT, now we have both games to swap back and forth and enjoy different experiences that both games offer.

Metric-Inchworm
12-22-2008, 05:36 PM
You spent that much money for 3 songs?

No, silly. There are TWO Ozzy songs. So more like 4.

Samuel346
12-22-2008, 05:39 PM
No, silly. There are TWO Ozzy songs. So more like 4.

Oh sorry.. that makes it worth it.

You know what's interesting? Of the 58 songs on Rock band 1 do you know how many I actually liked before playing the game?

2.

Why did I buy? Because I saw the potential and liked playing it at my friends. I don't see TOOL and say OMG OMG OMG time to spend $200 on three songs.

I like Tool, but that's not worth it.

Activision seems pretty hell bent on trying to get exclusive artists in order to play off the stupidity of most people.

pan3kill3r
12-22-2008, 05:44 PM
Ohmygod! There was this guy and he came over and he was like
Weeeeeeeee!

Yaaaa... If I get your post correctly these threads are getting old. Can't we all like both games for godsakeS?:(

Samuel346
12-22-2008, 05:46 PM
Yaaaa... If I get your post correctly these threads are getting old. Can't we all like both games for godsakeS?:(

You're free to like any combination of video games you'd like- this country hasn't taken that right away yet.

I'm simply giving my opinion about this subject matter.

Metric-Inchworm
12-22-2008, 05:49 PM
Oh sorry.. that makes it worth it.

You know what's interesting? Of the 58 songs on Rock band 1 do you know how many I actually liked before playing the game?

2.


I was the same with rock Band 2, then after a little playing I learned that I had known a lot of these songs when I was 4 or 5, and my dad told me when I was little, I loved dancing to "Come Out and Play." So a lot of the songs on there were amazing ones I didn't know I knew. (That includes Round and Round.)

pan3kill3r
12-22-2008, 05:49 PM
I agree I'm happy my buddy bought GH:WT, now we have both games to swap back and forth and enjoy different experiences that both games offer.

I don't see why this is such a bad thing! I really like RB for there refined taste in musical selection and vast array DLC, while I tend to like Guitar heroes guitar charts better (I mean GUITAR is in the name, so don't flame) because of the challenges and slider notes. OH and singing sucks horribly on GHWT.

DarthAthema
12-22-2008, 05:52 PM
Worst part is, Harmonix is the one who made that brand name so well known. Guitar Hero II is known as one of the greatest 360 games. Developed by harmonix, not activision, or whoever does it. I played World Tour at my church with some friends. We instantly took it out and switched back to RB2.

Well, yeah, but they did the smart thing and sold the name off when they knew it was time to evolve. A full band game named Guitar Hero makes no sense. I'm betting Activision is doing exactly what Harmonix planned. They bought the name purely for brand recognition's sake and then proceeded to milk it to death. Let's face it...Guitar Hero's days are numbered. It's the product with the mass appeal at the moment, but eventually most of those people who bought it for the popularity factor are going to tire of music games, and all that will be left are the devoted RB fans.
I've played GHWT. I'm glad I only rented it from Gamefly. I had a decent time with it. There are some things I liked. However, I honestly felt like I was playing a cheap imitation of RB. I enjoyed GH III for the pure ridiculousness of it. I liked the corny characters and the overblown charting. But they got rid of all that in World Tour, and all you're left with is a poor man's RB. There are some great songs on it that I wish would come to RB (and they still might), but there was so much overlap between the games. Plus, the DLC output is still clearly RB's advantage. So I got bored with it pretty quickly.

Bukkethead
12-22-2008, 06:08 PM
A friend of mine asked me recently, "Bukket, which of these games should I buy?"

I asked him what was most important to him. He said, "In order - vocals, song selection, drums."

So I s'plained how GHWT's vocals are pretty much busted, and how RB2's engine is vastly improved over the first incarnation. I mentioned the 500-song library, the weekly DLC, and all that stuff, then how GHWT's selection is pretty narrow, although admitting that bit was left up to personal choice and he should check out the song lineups himself. I then mentioned the buggy drum problems GHWT is currently having.

He thanked me for my input. Several days later, he told me he picked up GHWT.

Talk about a lolwut moment.

HedgeDuck
12-22-2008, 07:50 PM
Get serious!!! There are about 20 songs that I really like in the initial song list. RB2 doesn't have ANY BLS, Ozzy, or Van Halen.

ham736
12-22-2008, 07:54 PM
there are no fanboys, just idiots who don't realize there are other choices out there.

Rock_Starman
12-22-2008, 08:01 PM
i love rock band but i'm still buying GHWT
i don't get why people on these forums talk about that like its a bad thing

It is around here. I believe I've been called a RB fanboy and GH fanboy in the exact same topic. :p Though of course it's the opposite at the GH fourms.



How much DLC have they produced?


Weekly just like RB and based on how much I've bought for each since they've both been out they've done a helluvalot better job of it too. Of course RB had a lot more weeks to release weekly DLC so naturally they'd have more overall.

mercuryshadow09
12-22-2008, 08:25 PM
Many, including myself, see that as a pro, not a con. I like the rectangles.

What is the difference? When I'm listening to a good song and jamming out, that make's no difference too me.

trench762
12-22-2008, 08:42 PM
let sleepin dogs lie or somethin. If someone enjoys a game why try to convince them they shouldn't? I'm not saying either game is better, but WT def has a setlist closer to my musical tastes. RB has a better drum setup and graphics which aren't that important. Both games are great and will only get better. I can see a few months down the road the same argument goin on w/ RB vs GH Metallica. Basically threads like this clutter what is otherwise an awesome forum, just post your opinions in a review thread instead of picking at an almost healed scab.

JoshuaB81285
12-22-2008, 08:45 PM
I said it in another topic, I'll say it here. Circle notes, rectangle notes, who gives a s**t? That's seriously one of the lamest "arguments" I've ever heard concerning the two games.

afterstasis
12-22-2008, 08:53 PM
i personally really dislike the circle notes (i don't see how people can read fast charts using them without hyperspeed), and considering it's one of the main graphical features that actually affects gameplay, it is a fairly big deal to me.

if the tables were turned, i'd still play RB but would have probably bought GH:WT for it's lovely rectangular charts...
lucky for me, i see the total package in one box instead of being split between two.

mercuryshadow09
12-22-2008, 08:54 PM
I said it in another topic, I'll say it here. Circle notes, rectangle notes, who gives a s**t? That's seriously one of the lamest "arguments" I've ever heard concerning the two games.

Yes it is.

mercuryshadow09
12-22-2008, 08:56 PM
i personally really dislike the circle notes (i don't see how people can read fast charts using them without hyperspeed), and considering it's one of the main graphical features that actually affects gameplay, it is a fairly big deal to me.

if the tables were turned, i'd still play RB but would have probably bought GH:WT for it's lovely rectangular charts...
lucky for me, i see the total package in one box instead of being split between two.

I have no probelm's at all reading them, what next?

afterstasis
12-22-2008, 09:06 PM
I have no probelm's at all reading them, what next?

you seem to think i'm speaking for a group, when i'm only stating my personal preferences.

it was annoying enough to deal with what people call "fanboys", but now we also have a group so dedicated to opposing them that they forget some people have perfectly valid reasons for not enjoying every product (whether it's a video game, a pizza, or a vehicle) under the sun.

JoshuaB81285
12-22-2008, 09:09 PM
I have no probelm's at all reading them, what next?

I haven't played GHWT yet, but I am getting it for X-Mas and am excited about it. Why? Because it's ANOTHER music rhythm game I get to play. Kudos to being one of the few who isn't "GH is the devil" type deal around here.

mercuryshadow09
12-22-2008, 09:09 PM
you seem to think i'm speaking for a group, when i'm only stating my personal preferences.

it was annoying enough to deal with what people call "fanboys", but now we also have a group so dedicated to opposing them that they forget some people have perfectly valid reasons for not enjoying every product (whether it's a video game, a pizza, or a vehicle) under the sun.

Take me with a grain of salt today, I'm a little annoyed and as such might take it out on the interwebz, I wasnt attacking you.

mercuryshadow09
12-22-2008, 09:11 PM
I haven't played GHWT yet, but I am getting it for X-Mas and am excited about it. Why? Because it's ANOTHER music rhythm game I get to play. Kudos to being one of the few who isn't "GH is the devil" type deal around here.

Thank's man, I own it and play it a lot, granted RB has a LOT of DLC, but I find GHWT to be just as fun, and get the Eagles pack, that **** rock's.

afterstasis
12-22-2008, 09:12 PM
Take me with a grain of salt today, I'm a little annoyed and as such might take it out on the interwebz, I wasnt attacking you.

no harm, no foul...
however...


get the Eagles pack, that **** rock's.

i think the eagles are one of the worst bands i've heard in my life... what next? ;)

instantdeath999
12-22-2008, 09:15 PM
i think the eagles are one of the worst bands i've heard in my life... what next? ;)

From a personal subjective point of view, as in not liking their particular sound, or one of those bands that has no redeeming factors?

mercuryshadow09
12-22-2008, 09:17 PM
no harm, no foul...
however...



i think the eagles are one of the worst bands i've heard in my life... what next? ;)

Really?

instantdeath999
12-22-2008, 09:19 PM
The Eagles are one of those bands that it's easy to dislike their sound, but hard to say they don't have talent.

afterstasis
12-22-2008, 09:20 PM
the eagles are the limp bizkit of the classic rock world, in my opinion.

i can cope with 95-99% of your typical classic rock station's playlist, but there is no greater guarantee than me turning it off if the eagles come on.

you know me, instantdeath, talent means nothing if i don't like how it sounds. :)

mercuryshadow09
12-22-2008, 09:25 PM
the eagles are the limp bizkit of the classic rock world, in my opinion.

i can cope with 95-99% of your typical classic rock station's playlist, but there is no greater guarantee than me turning it off if the eagles come on.

you know me, instantdeath, talent means nothing if i don't like how it sounds. :)

To each his own I guess.:confused:

Dampiz
12-22-2008, 09:33 PM
Back when there was only GH out there, I thought it was the coolest game I ever played. Then a friend of mine told me about Rock Band, I went to his house to play it, and it felt like a dream come true, no more round buttons, no more over-dramatic background charts that do nothing but make all the notes harder to see. It was a nice crisp, clean, and smooth chart, with very visible buttons, the perfect spot for Overdrive without potentially breaking your note streak, and, those annoying cheesy flame graphics that sparked out of every note were all gone, not to mention Rock Band released these sleek, good looking Fender Replica's that just... feel right in your hands. If I pick up an old GHII or III guitar nowadays, it feels like I'm holding a big plastic pipe, the buttons are too far apart, the strum button feels too shallow and loose (as well as the whammy bar) and the guitar itself feels way too small.

I bought Rock Band the next day, then bought Rock Band 2 the day it was released. All my friends prefer it over GH any day. Everything about it is improved. Thats my opinion.

JoshuaB81285
12-22-2008, 10:36 PM
Thank's man, I own it and play it a lot, granted RB has a LOT of DLC, but I find GHWT to be just as fun, and get the Eagles pack, that **** rock's.

Did you get GHWT for 360? Cause if so, I may add you on XBL (my GT is JoshBlizzle) cause none of my IRL friends have GHWT, so I may need someone to play online with and what not...and I do plan on catching up on some of the GHWT DLC (though I won't be getting ALL of it like I do with RB, but I will be getting Pumpkins pack, Eagles pack, "Hot Blooded" and a few other tunes).

toymachineSH
12-23-2008, 01:41 AM
maybe your friend prefers a game that charts keyboard and has a more forgiving timing window.

mercuryshadow09
12-23-2008, 03:42 AM
Did you get GHWT for 360? Cause if so, I may add you on XBL (my GT is JoshBlizzle) cause none of my IRL friends have GHWT, so I may need someone to play online with and what not...and I do plan on catching up on some of the GHWT DLC (though I won't be getting ALL of it like I do with RB, but I will be getting Pumpkins pack, Eagles pack, "Hot Blooded" and a few other tunes).

Yeah I'm on Live, add me if I dont add you first, you play guitar? Doh, never mind read your profile, yeah cool I play drum's.

Samuel346
12-23-2008, 04:19 AM
i think the eagles are one of the worst bands i've heard in my life... what next? ;)

I wouldn't go that far... but I would definitely say over-hyped.

RockBandRocker
12-23-2008, 04:53 AM
How many people in here bashing GHWT have actually played it?

I rented it.

Played through the hard guitar career in about a day and a half.

I started a vocal career, but singing on that game is so f**ked up.

rowtheboat
12-23-2008, 05:03 AM
he will be dissapointed...

Rock_Starman
12-23-2008, 06:03 AM
and get the Eagles pack, that **** rock's.

Life in the Fastlane is fun but I didn't get the other 2 cause I didn't know them.


maybe your friend prefers a game that charts keyboard

Cause RB never...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPqKhCLMMGE

...did anything...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDlsnsuaxLQ

like that...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVt5R-Iv4LI

...right?

Fennz
12-23-2008, 09:47 AM
So i come on MSN today and my friend messages me instantly I BOUGHT GHWT!!! And I just respond with Why'd you waste your money He goes on saying how GHWT>Rb2 no details he just says, rockband sucks GHWT rules blah blah. im like ok. i then started to list every detail of the pros and cons of both and how the odds tilt in Rb2's favor. He then goes on to say Its still better I asked for proof like I gave him. He had nothing.

GH fanboys :P pfft

Yeah. I know what you mean. I know some people at school who are gh fanboys and they haven't even played rock band 2 yet..

lawrence1103
12-23-2008, 05:46 PM
When i bought RB i almost made the mistake of getting GH3. RB sold me on the drums and mic, compared to just the guitar. I liked both set lists but i had to get drums and a mic as well. Thank God i avoided a huge mistake.

I did end up getting GH3 but off ebay at a much lower price, i wasted my money. Bad graphics, terrible charts. Seeing WT in Best Buy, i got play it a bit and i did not like it. I may buy it one day, but just the game itself and maybe when the price goes down, like for $10 or less.

The only GH game i may consider getting is GH:Metallica, because my love for Metallica is greater than my dislike for GH.

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Zeleii
12-23-2008, 05:56 PM
So fanboyism for Rock Band is good too?

Bought the game yesterday, and it's really fun to play.

toymachineSH
12-23-2008, 07:21 PM
Life in the Fastlane is fun but I didn't get the other 2 cause I didn't know them.



Cause RB never...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPqKhCLMMGE

...did anything...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDlsnsuaxLQ

like that...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVt5R-Iv4LI

...right?

Only because they had to. if Rio was in GHWT you'd better damn well believe they'd chart the saxaphone xD

instantdeath999
12-23-2008, 07:25 PM
Life in the Fastlane is fun but I didn't get the other 2 cause I didn't know them.





You don't know One of These Nights? That song is played religiously :confused:

Then again, I only knew One of these Nights well, and had only heard Life in the Fastlane a few times in my life.


Only because they had to. if Rio was in GHWT you'd better damn well believe they'd chart the saxaphone xD

Is it bad that I was hoping they would chart the saxophone?

ExoKiller4
12-23-2008, 10:05 PM
Find new friends.

mjlambert1
12-24-2008, 12:48 AM
How many people in here bashing GHWT have actually played it?

I've played it and I've bashed it. Not even worth renting IMO.

LtHolden
12-24-2008, 01:10 AM
i bought ghwt and sold it two weeks later. i tell anyone who asks that rb is better, but do they listen? no.

I bought GH:WT for a few songs (mainly, the Tool songs). And the guitar.

The guitar is awesome. The game, not so much.

I hope make my money back when I sell it. It's a horrible mess on all instruments, and looks ugly as hell...well, part of that reason might be I don't have a HD tv, but then I look at stuff like MGS4, RB2, LBP, and those games just so happen to look damn good (for a 19" standard def, no less).

tl;dr: GHWT f**king blows. Neversoft ruined a good series.

HeyRiles
12-24-2008, 01:26 AM
One guy tried to explain to me why GHIV was better. I liked him because he respected my decision though. Anyway, first he explained that the setlist was much better. I countered by saying over 500 songs are going to be available by year's end. Then he said he preferred the clicking of a GH controller, to which I told him you can use any guitar for Rock Band.

Etc., etc., eventually it came down to him explaining that it really really bothers him if the notes aren't circles. So I sighed and gave up. No salvation for him, I guess

Dreamflight
12-24-2008, 03:59 AM
I would say the worst feature of World Tour is a World Tour mode that really doesn't have much of an objective besides playing the 85 songs.
I agree so much. Now that I've experienced Rock Band 2, it definitely appeals more to my inner gamer. There is just more to do in RB2. I can continue getting fans/money, beating challenges, and eventually get more DLC. What's not to like? With WT, all I can do is increase my high scores and get more money. While I do like seeing higher numbers, that's just not fun when you're playing the same song like twenty times. As for money, I would feel more excited about getting it if the clothes didn't SUCK.

As for WT, I enjoy bass far more than the guitar. Nice to see Neversoft releasing some DLC too, and being a bit more on-time instead of like "lol we'll release it two weeks late on Wii or something".

I enjoy both games, but until I get bored of RB2, it's probably the rhythm game I'll be playing most.


I started a vocal career, but singing on that game is so f**ked up.
Seen this twice in the thread. I haven't played vocals that much, so I wonder: how?

TheGreatKtulu
12-24-2008, 10:26 AM
Only because they had to. if Rio was in GHWT you'd better damn well believe they'd chart the saxaphone xD

They *had* to chart a ridiculously hard organ solo instead of the guitar for what reason exactly?

Pryito
12-24-2008, 02:06 PM
Ohmygod! There was this guy and he came over and he was like
Weeeeeeeee!

Exactly what I was thinking.... lol........

trench762
12-24-2008, 03:08 PM
i didn't bother reading half these posts, what irks me is people claiming WT is a crappy game, since I've bought it it's gotten more playtime than RB2 by like 5x. The only time I bother with RB2 is when a new song I like comes out. I've seen negative comments about WT's world tour mode, but I prefer not having to repeat the same song 30 times to complete it, even if it isn't more like a real WT. And as far as songs go there are at least 20 on WT that I love that aren't on RB, and most of my fav tracks from RB are on WT as well. RB fanboys turn me off from the game more than anything, RB is doin great even if WT is outselling it, and I think it's safe to say it's not goin anywhere anytime soon. So if you don't like WT my guess is your a drummer exclusively b/c WT guitar/bass system is tight. I do play single player for the most part, maybe that's part of the reason I like WT so much, and I am using my rb drums/gh3 guitar so I dunno about the whole band setup.

bmcorrier
12-24-2008, 03:13 PM
I wrote a college paper this semester about how RB2>GH:WT. And did a presentation on it. The subject was to just make a valid argument about SOMETHING. People did pro-life vs. pro-choice, why tv is bad for kids, choose Car A vs. Car B. I did RB2>GH:WT.

I was the only person to make an A on the paper, and a 100 on my presentation. I didn't even bring in a console or peripherals, just made a hell of a convincing argument and a powerpoint.

Fennz
12-24-2008, 03:20 PM
I wrote a college paper this semester about how RB2>GH:WT. And did a presentation on it. The subject was to just make a valid argument about SOMETHING. People did pro-life vs. pro-choice, why tv is bad for kids, choose Car A vs. Car B. I did RB2>GH:WT.

I was the only person to make an A on the paper, and a 100 on my presentation. I didn't even bring in a console or peripherals, just made a hell of a convincing argument and a powerpoint.

could you post it on here. I would love to read it.

JoshuaB81285
12-24-2008, 03:42 PM
Indeed, that is intriguing.

LinkStrifeLeonhart
12-24-2008, 06:47 PM
The one thing I was stunned about with GHWT was the fact that strumming suddenly became an afterthought. I only ever had to really strum chords and that was it.

I'm hoping that something was just wrong with the disc that I was playing on.

Eric4372
12-24-2008, 07:23 PM
Well, here's my RB2/GHWT story.

My brother, he's 14, wants GHWT so he rents it for Wii and plays the songs with his GH3 guitar. I play it, I really don't like it. Then I go to a lock-in with some gamers and play RB2 for a few hours and now I want to get RB2.

I can tell that if I didn't do something, that my brother would spend all his money on GHWT, because he's impuslive like that. So I spend $180 on RB2 a few days later out of the blue--puts me in the hole but at least I saved his money. He's a RB2 convert now.

The only reason he really liked GHWT was for the drumset--he likes the clashes, so I guess I have to buy him some of those for RB2 drumset.

Tacosys
12-24-2008, 08:50 PM
I own both games and enjoy them both equally. Each game has its pros and cons. So when I get pissed off at GH:WT I will throw in RB2 and vice versa.

CCDaDon
12-24-2008, 09:04 PM
You know, I'm a RB guy, and I try not to bash GH, and yes I have played it... Its just that there are tons of things in GH;WT that take away from the experience like the UI and the graphics and drummers animations, which has absolutely nothing to do with whats being played. Example in one of the Hendrix songs Mitchel plays a big long snare roll but the animation NS chose for it was "Ride Cymbal snare beat". Thats a big LOLWUT? moment.

Its a personal preference about the Circle Notes and the Rectangle notes, and its stupid to say it's a stupid argument, because what doesn't matter to you matters alot to someone else and if it doesn't matter to you you should understand that and move on.

I also think those "sustained" notes for drum rolls and fast cymbal hits for some endings is just stupid and is something thats just there when NS gets lazy about charting something correctly.

Musicfreak82515
12-24-2008, 09:27 PM
Ok, I have played both games. And I still would prefer RB2 even if I had just learned about them both.

The good things about GH:WT are:

There's well-known artists on it (Ozzy, The Doors, Van Halen, etc.)

Cheaper in price

Drums are designed as if taken from part of a drumset

More in-depth character creation

The cons are near opposite:

Not a lot of diversity in the genres

Some songs seem like fillers (thrown in at last minute to boost song count)

Drum and vocal charts are horrendous (Vocals are charted sh**ty and the drum chart layout's bad for beginners)

Characters look all male (I.e. I was playing as Midori (that cute Japanese girl from GH3) and she looked VERY butch-like)
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The DLC's meh. Its appealing to some folks, but the DLC seems like its just put out there as filler for the masses. The songs they've put out so far are a mix between singles and those songs you might listen to once on an album and never listen to it again. Also, albums aren't really put out in full. A good example is the new Oasis album (which, imo) wasn't that great). They released 3 songs from it in Nov. and they are now planning to release the rest sometime by the end of January.

The drums were innovative but lacked functionally. The cymbal pads mostly respond (at least on my friend's kit) on the very tip of the pad, where your likely to be playing a fast part, miss the pad and end up getting caught underneath it. The sensors seem to be crappy as well. My friend only had his kit for a few weeks and his red pad went mostly unresponsive (unless you hit it in the direct middle). I was just over his house yesterday and he told me the red pad now is completely unresponsive.

The User-Created content seems like a joke honestly. I saw a video on Youtube that showed a custom guitar track. It was all five buttons in a chord, strummed very fast, for 2:30 minutes. That's what you can expect a lot of in the "GHTunes" (a rip-off of iTunes, wouldn't blame 'em with Copyrights and all that)

Another negative fact is that you can only create a 6 song setlist. Also, you can't move up and down the setlist with the drum controller, gotta use the crappy D-Pad on it. Another thing about the setlist is that it doesn't show difficulty for different roles. So if your one of those people (like me, I've experienced this) who listen to a song so many times, you don't think its that hard, and then you see its DLC and you play it, you fail because it was a lot harder than you expected (dur)


Overall, its obvious what I'd pick. However, I would buy GH:WT and think of it like a bastard child to RB, because to be honest, its a crapload of fun to play Hot For Teacher.

Recommended as a side-disc expansion pack from a different maker.

Oh, and sorry for this really long post ^^

Goatbuster
12-25-2008, 02:11 AM
could you post it on here. I would love to read it.

Seconded, I'd love to see it, especially if you had some powerpoint or something.

Mikey35
12-25-2008, 05:48 PM
Ok so I bought GHWT for our kids for Xmas, even though they all love rockband, we thought it would be nice to have an alternative so everyone wasnt clamouring to play rockband all the time. I was also excited about the set list with alot of songs i wanted to see, like Beat it, Hotel California. So I set it up and bamm drums dont work at all, just flashing lights and cant seem to connect. The Microphone and singing sound horrible compared to Rockband, maybe its because you hear the actual singer more?? The whole kit kinda feels wrong to me and yet I cant put my finger on it, but its just not right. As well I have GH3 but I never played it much because i hated the noted and charting on it. But its still the same over charted weird note looking crap it was before. I wish I could just bundle up the whole kit and take it back, but the game is opened now and they wont take returned Software. So i guess I got to RMA the drums already and live with this piece of crap. Oh ya and the music creator is horrific!! This is not the music creator I was thinking it would be. Thats my take anyway.

MdrnDayWarrior
12-25-2008, 06:22 PM
I am currently looking for a rental place to have a copy so I can try it out, but the two that are near me are all out.

I also have a question concerning the Rock Band 2 guitar. Does it work well with Guitar Hero World Tour for the 360? I downloaded the demo of Guitar Hero Aerosmith and my Rock Band 2 guitar didn't work too well with it.

CCDaDon
12-25-2008, 08:16 PM
I am currently looking for a rental place to have a copy so I can try it out, but the two that are near me are all out.

I also have a question concerning the Rock Band 2 guitar. Does it work well with Guitar Hero World Tour for the 360? I downloaded the demo of Guitar Hero Aerosmith and my Rock Band 2 guitar didn't work too well with it.

Yes it does, as do the drums and Mic.

Metal_Man
12-25-2008, 08:43 PM
Ohmygod! There was this guy and he came over and he was like
Weeeeeeeee!
I believe that was me.

MdrnDayWarrior
12-26-2008, 12:41 AM
Yes it does, as do the drums and Mic.

Do they just work, or do they work well, is what I asked.

Samuel346
12-26-2008, 12:47 AM
The good things about GH:WT are:

1)There's well-known artists on it (Ozzy, The Doors, Van Halen, etc.)

2)Cheaper in price

3)Drums are designed as if taken from part of a drumset

4)More in-depth character creation



1)There's "well-known" artists on every rhythm game, including Rock Revolution.

2) You can get Rock Band 2 for cheaper...

3) Drums are the only thing they really honestly have on Rock band... yet a lot of problems have been reported

4)Can you see that when playing the game? NO, therefore, who really gives a ****?

mjlambert1
12-28-2008, 12:10 AM
I wrote a college paper this semester about how RB2>GH:WT. And did a presentation on it. The subject was to just make a valid argument about SOMETHING. People did pro-life vs. pro-choice, why tv is bad for kids, choose Car A vs. Car B. I did RB2>GH:WT.

I was the only person to make an A on the paper, and a 100 on my presentation. I didn't even bring in a console or peripherals, just made a hell of a convincing argument and a powerpoint.

Heck, I'll give you my e-mail to send the powerpoint so I can share it with others.

FlameSama1
12-28-2008, 12:38 AM
1)There's "well-known" artists on every rhythm game, including Rock Revolution.

2) You can get Rock Band 2 for cheaper...

3) Drums are the only thing they really honestly have on Rock band... yet a lot of problems have been reported

4)Can you see that when playing the game? NO, therefore, who really gives a ****?

I agree but with 3, the drum kit it's self might be more detailed, but the chart sucks.

And 4, I'd like to add that a piece of crap with colorful glitter on it is still, a piece of crap covered in glitter. Meaning, you can make an avatar but it looks like an abomination of god no matter what.

sorrow880
12-28-2008, 12:42 AM
I bought both and have to say that Rock Band 2 is the MUCH better game! I've barely touched GH:WT since I purchased it. My only regret with Rock Band is that I'm jealous of a few tracks that the GH franchise has...such as Def Leppard, Skid Row, and The Eagles....oh well, hopefully Rock Band will someday get them.

FlameSama1
12-28-2008, 12:43 AM
I've played both through, all the band challenges for RB and tours for GH:WT.

RB wins.