Do you believe a patch will be released to allow the GH3 guitar on the PS3 Rock Band?

[Emowii]

Yes or no?



I'm really regretting having bought this game on the PS3 for this single reason, and I'm trying to decide today whether or not I should sell Rock Band. I simply cannot play with this guitar, and I'm really fed up with Harmonix's response so far.


Does anyone think there is reason to believe they might change their tune anytime soon?

[TigerVoss]

Yes or no?



I'm really regretting having bought this game on the PS3 for this single reason, and I'm trying to decide today whether or not I should sell Rock Band. I simply cannot play with this guitar, and I'm really fed up with Harmonix's response so far.


Does anyone think there is reason to believe they might change their tune anytime soon?
Seeing as they had a long weekend to review customers feedback, read the forums, and hear from their close social circle that people are really pissed off about the lack of compatibility...if they havent released a statement by now, then I am lead to believe that they dont care, and are happy making the money they have while ignoring the main complaint about their product.

Harmonix used to be for "the people"..now I have to think otherwise due to a lack of any action/statement.

[batsu336]

I think it all depends on if GH3 wants to play ball. There is obviously some different software code in the guitar, and if GH doesn't want to give RB access to it, than that's it, because GH has the rights to the inner workings of their guitars. I personally think GH will make RB sweat it out for a month or so, hoping to keep GH sales high while RB gets crapped on by Sony owners. After they milk that until ohhh, December 26th, they could then release the code for the guitar and get more sales when the compatability patch is released by RB and people buy the extra GH guitars. It is devious, it would be a good business move, and it is what I would do if I had my business competition over an open barrel.

[JackBNimble]

Look, there are many threads regarding this issue.Can you please stop littering the boards with these same topics repeatedly?

[darien87]

Look, there are many threads regarding this issue.Can you please stop littering the boards with these same topics repeatedly?Deal with it dude. People are pissed, and the more visibility this issue has, the better chance it has of being dealt with. "Squeaky wheel gets the grease."

However, I doubt they're going to do anything about it. They obviously knew about this before the game was released, and didn't do anything about it. They're just hoping that most of the people that have this issue will just be complacent and wait until January to fork out yet MORE money and buy a stand-alone guitar. I for one will NOT be doing this. In fact, I'll give EA a few more days to make an announcement. If they aren't forthcoming with a solution soon, I'll be returning RB this weekend.

I returned GH 3 because of the guitar backwards incompatibility. I will happily do the same with RB.

[Emowii]

Look, there are many threads regarding this issue.Can you please stop littering the boards with these same topics repeatedly?

While you may not consider this topic worthy of multiple threads, for the people stuck playing this game with the Rock Band guitar only, it's a big deal. A big enough deal that some of us might even get rid of the game if we aren't able to play with a different guitar.

[_epacs_]

While you may not consider this topic worthy of multiple threads, for the people stuck playing this game with the Rock Band guitar only, it's a big deal. A big enough deal that some of us might even get rid of the game if we aren't able to play with a different guitar.

...Or stuck with a broken strum bar, while your GH3 guitar collects dust in the corner, with only the options of drumming or singing while you wait for your replacement to be mailed to you.

[Quastor]

My prediction is: No.

Harmonix isn't going to patch the game without RedOctane's permission, they've already stated that. How likely is it RO will allow them to do this? Well, if they allow their guitar to work with RB, doesn't it become expected that the Strat should work with GH3? So do we expect Activision to patch GH3 to allow this? You can bet they're not going to.

So while Harmonix would love nothing more than to patch their game and allow the Les Paul to work, Red Octane isn't going to let them.

[Emowii]

My prediction is: No.

Harmonix isn't going to patch the game without RedOctane's permission, they've already stated that. How likely is it RO will allow them to do this? Well, if they allow their guitar to work with RB, doesn't it become expected that the Strat should work with GH3? So do we expect Activision to patch GH3 to allow this? You can bet they're not going to.

So while Harmonix would love nothing more than to patch their game and allow the Les Paul to work, Red Octane isn't going to let them.

Thats exactly what I'm afraid of.

[espher]

My prediction is: No.

Harmonix isn't going to patch the game without RedOctane's permission, they've already stated that. How likely is it RO will allow them to do this? Well, if they allow their guitar to work with RB, doesn't it become expected that the Strat should work with GH3? So do we expect Activision to patch GH3 to allow this? You can bet they're not going to.

So while Harmonix would love nothing more than to patch their game and allow the Les Paul to work, Red Octane isn't going to let them.

That's my bet.

Hell, for all we know, the one of the reasons they may have placed the 'most' peripherals thing on the box is because Red Octane already cockblocked them the first time around.

[Rook_x51]

Seeing as they had a long weekend to review customers feedback, read the forums, and hear from their close social circle that people are really pissed off about the lack of compatibility...if they havent released a statement by now, then I am lead to believe that they dont care, and are happy making the money they have while ignoring the main complaint about their product.

Harmonix used to be for "the people"..now I have to think otherwise due to a lack of any action/statement.

I think "partnered with EA" and "In it for the money, not the people" are synonymous. I'm not saying... I'm just saying.

[JackBNimble]

While you may not consider this topic worthy of multiple threads, for the people stuck playing this game with the Rock Band guitar only, it's a big deal. A big enough deal that some of us might even get rid of the game if we aren't able to play with a different guitar.

Well you sure told me!I have a PS3 aswell and I can't use my LP or SG or any other third party ps2 controller with a usb adapter either.

All I'm saying is there are other places for this topic.You and I both know this thread with be locked ,so your waisting your time talking about it here.

I would try the announcement forums ,there is a good thread to post in there.

[batsu336]

All I'm saying is there are other places for this topic.You and I both know this thread with be locked ,so your waisting your time talking about it here.

I would try the announcement forums ,there is a good thread to post in there.

Cut the boy some slack and let him exercise his first amendment right to gab about what he wants. God knows there are more irrelevant threads on the forum than this one. If you don't like it, just skip it instead of responding and bumping it back up to the top of the page again. It's like the anti-gaming groups that create more interest in a game when they speak out against it.

[monstrado]

Yes or no?



I'm really regretting having bought this game on the PS3 for this single reason, and I'm trying to decide today whether or not I should sell Rock Band. I simply cannot play with this guitar, and I'm really fed up with Harmonix's response so far.


Does anyone think there is reason to believe they might change their tune anytime soon?.................

no.

[Gryffindor]

Their obvious silence so far is likely evidence that there will be no patch. Too bad, the game is good (not great in a lot of ways, but that's another topic). But, is it really worthy of paying $169+tax for? Especially when the most of the guitars shipped are already broken?

Here's another bit of advice for all if no patch is released within this week. Go to IGN and GameSpot and add your own review about this game and give it a 0. Drive down the ratings so they sell less.

[oddroot]

if they aren't goin to patch the game to accept any of the old controllers, ps2 sg/ps3 lp, then for the love of somethign, PATCH IT TO MAKE THE SIXAXIS WORK! Then maybe the 3rd party controller will maybe magically work and they can't be accused of copyright infringment or anything.

I am so totally regretting my PS3 purchase, and have since GH3 came out... RB is just adding more wood to the fire. You would hope Sony would do something, too bad i've bought in hook line and sinker to the ps3 with the purchase of a bunch of Bluray movies, and have other games, cause if I could easily switch out my PS3 for an xbox I would... Then I would get to enjoy GH2/3/RB on the same platform with the same damned guitars.

There is only so many plastic guitars one should be required to own to play these games.

[stickfigure02]

It's absolutely amazing to me that the system that made the GH games so popular gets zero love! Rock Band hype would not even exist without the GH series being on the Playstation platform originally, yet everything runs without a hitch for the XBOX! Just plain UNACCEPTABLE!!

[funINfuneral]

it just doesnt make sense since Xbox 360 gh3 guitars work...

[ejmonkey3]

microsoft has money to toss out to boss everyone!

[NattyLight]

Yes or no?



I'm really regretting having bought this game on the PS3 for this single reason, and I'm trying to decide today whether or not I should sell Rock Band. I simply cannot play with this guitar, and I'm really fed up with Harmonix's response so far.


Does anyone think there is reason to believe they might change their tune anytime soon?

Not any time soon. If you have a PS3 and a 360, why did you buy the PS3 version? EA games have always been better on the 360. If you only have the P3 version, then ould you really rather not have the game than only the official guitar working?


HMX did release a statement.


We’ve stated many times that Rock Band supports an open standard. What does that mean? It means that Rock Band supports the same system that drives a basic PS3 or Xbox 360 controller or peripheral.

If your controller or peripheral doesn’t work with Rock Band, it is because the manufacturer doesn’t support the standard controller configuration. In other words, if a peripheral or controller doesn’t work with Rock Band, then the manufacturer has done something to prevent it from working with Rock Band by changing how the device “talks” to either a PS3 or Xbox 360.

If any controller or peripheral manufacturer wants their product to work with Rock Band, we promise to work with them to create a patch or adapter to make it work.

We also want you to know that we are working to get stand-alone Rock Band Guitars, Drums and Microphones to the market as soon as possible. In addition to rounding out the band with a second guitar, Rock Band supports guitar vs. guitar, drum vs. drum and vocal vs. vocal modes.

We want you to enjoy Rock Band and have set up a superior customer service program. If you have any concerns about Rock Band, please visit: http://support.ea.com/rockband

[SoulScreme]

Not any time soon. If you have a PS3 and a 360, why did you buy the PS3 version? EA games have always been better on the 360. If you only have the P3 version, then ould you really rather not have the game than only the official guitar working?


HMX did release a statement.

The statement however, is a lie. Please see http://community.rockband.com/vbforum/showthread.php?t=10847

[Ultrace]

Here's another bit of advice for all if no patch is released within this week. Go to IGN and GameSpot and add your own review about this game and give it a 0. Drive down the ratings so they sell less.
Yes, because surely if no patch is released, the game should be considered a 0. Because there is no patch that allows you to use a competitor's peripheral for one of the three play modes available, the entire game should be rated as 0.

While your intent of reducing the ratings makes sense, I'm hoping that if anyone happens to see your rating and the reason why, they'll discount it as a waste of their time. Rate the game low if you must based on third-party controller compatibility. But to bottom it out on that is just inane.

[NattyLight]

Yes, because surely if no patch is released, the game should be considered a 0. Because there is no patch that allows you to use a competitor's peripheral for one of the three play modes available, the entire game should be rated as 0.

While your intent of reducing the ratings makes sense, I'm hoping that if anyone happens to see your rating and the reason why, they'll discount it as a waste of their time. Rate the game low if you must based on third-party controller compatibility. But to bottom it out on that is just inane.

No he's right. I remember when every major publication gave Super Mario World and and Final Fantasy 7 horrible scores because you couldnt use Sega controllers to play them

[greygoosetall]

I spoke today with EA (the manager of the support department) and he told me that Red Octane was so inundated with complaints for not making the the GH3 controllers in a way to be cross used with RB, that Sony, Harmonix and Red Octane are now finishing a patch that will allow GH3 controllers to be used w/ RB. The patch will be available any day now. It will be installed when you turn on Rock Band. Microsoft had already done this and it was fixed by Friday last week I believe.

This manager was four lrvels up from the rep. It took two hours to get this info.

[SoulScreme]

I spoke today with EA (the manager of the support department) and he told me that Red Octane was so inundated with complaints for not making the the GH3 controllers in a way to be cross used with RB, that Sony, Harmonix and Red Octane are now finishing a patch that will allow GH3 controllers to be used w/ RB. The patch will be available any day now. It will be installed when you turn on Rock Band. Microsoft had already done this and it was fixed by Friday last week I believe.

This manager was four lrvels up from the rep. It took two hours to get this info.

No offense, but without proof this means nothing. Might as well say you talked to Mickey Mouse and he said it was all Jesus' fault.

[greygoosetall]

No offense, but without proof this means nothing. Might as well say you talked to Mickey Mouse and he said it was all Jesus' fault.
Call EA and ask for a supervisor. I wouldn't have posted this if I wasn't told this. I was told Red Octane buckled because of all of the complaints. Have you ever considered that maybe, just maybe they are listening? The statement released today shows they are hearing the PS3 complaints.

Quote from HMX today:

We've seen all the message board posts, discussions and stories regarding the PS3 edition of Rock Band--from issues with guitar compatibility to frustration that stand-alone guitars and drums for Rock Band have not yet hit stores. We want people to know that these issues have our full attention. We are listening and we read everything that is posted on our forums and we're committed to providing the best play experience possible. We're working hard to ensure that we solve these problems as soon as possible. We promise to keep the community updated and, in the meantime, we thank them for their patience.

End Quote

[SoulScreme]

Ok, and I've seen at least 10 posts of some guy who talked to some guy who works for some company who said it will/won't/can/can't be fixed.

[greygoosetall]

Ok, and I've seen at least 10 posts of some guy who talked to some guy who works for some company who said it will/won't/can/can't be fixed.
Fine don't believe it. I am not sure I do either, but the conversation was the top manager at the EA support center. I am just passing along what I was told. Based on the conversation, it seemed real to me.

[greygoosetall]

Fine don't believe it. I am not sure I do either, but the conversation was the top manager at the EA support center. I am just passing along what I was told. Based on the conversation, it seemed real to me.
And I will add that the conversation was initially about replacement guitars. After resolving that issue I casually mentioned how unhappy I am to have to have a wall full of plastic guitars to have two PS2 ones and then two GH3 PS3 guitars and now I will have to have two RB PS3 guitars, and he offered the info and said he was told this morning, that Sony, RO, Harmonix, and Activision were working on it and that RO actually gave Harmonix the codes, because they were so overwhelmed by angry consumers threatening to boycott the GH3 game. It seems to me that RB is acutely aware of our anger and is trying to appease us. SO if they are affected by our rage and millions of posts, do you think they may feel that correcting these issues is important? I do.

[Gryffindor]

And I will add that the conversation was initially about replacement guitars. After resolving that issue I casually mentioned how unhappy I am to have to have a wall full of plastic guitars to have two PS2 ones and then two GH3 PS3 guitars and now I will have to have two RB PS3 guitars, and he offered the info and said he was told this morning, that Sony, RO, Harmonix, and Activision were working on it and that RO actually gave Harmonix the codes, because they were so overwhelmed by angry consumers threatening to boycott the GH3 game. It seems to me that RB is acutely aware of our anger and is trying to appease us. SO if they are affected by our rage and millions of posts, do you think they may feel that correcting these issues is important? I do.

If the above is true (which I truly hope it is), then RO and Activision are being VERY smart. If they price their stand-alone guitars for less than the crappy Fenders, guess what more people will buy???

A little off topic: I received my empty return box today to ship back my broken guitar. I'm finding it amazing that HMX used 2nd day air to get me the empty box but then has the return as GROUND!!!!!!!! I guess I'll see my guitar sometime around Christmas at this rate!!:mad: This has to be the most expensive karaoke game I've ever purchased.:mad:

[eVan_Diesel]

While I certainly hope they do, I'm not holding my breath.... :(

[DesiredFX]

I like the "crappy Fenders" a lot more than I like the Les Paul

[ForTheSteel]

if both hmx/ea and redoctane/activision agreed to patch both games to work with both guitars it would be economically beneficial to both companies.

please release the patch

[MF-PO'd]

I spoke today with EA (the manager of the support department) and he told me that Red Octane was so inundated with complaints for not making the the GH3 controllers in a way to be cross used with RB, that Sony, Harmonix and Red Octane are now finishing a patch that will allow GH3 controllers to be used w/ RB. The patch will be available any day now. It will be installed when you turn on Rock Band. Microsoft had already done this and it was fixed by Friday last week I believe.

This manager was four lrvels up from the rep. It took two hours to get this info.

Hey, I believe you, and thank you for sharing the information. It's hard to imagine a 4th level manager would have false information about this kind of issue, but I guess stranger things have happened. We'll see if the "any day now" part is accurate though. I'm a little skeptical about that, as the solution involves too many different companies working together.

Just curious... how do you know he's specifically a 4th level manager? Did he volunteer that information? :p

[Frederf]

I'm sure if HMX are able to legally/technically, they will be more than happy to.

[Ventura]

I spoke today with EA (the manager of the support department) and he told me that Red Octane was so inundated with complaints for not making the the GH3 controllers in a way to be cross used with RB, that Sony, Harmonix and Red Octane are now finishing a patch that will allow GH3 controllers to be used w/ RB. The patch will be available any day now.

If this is true, then it's absolutely excellent news!!

I actually don't have GH3 for the PS3 yet, but you know, if they patch compatibility I'll be going and getting a copy ASAP.

[rotciv50]

man i hope this is true, then I can start planning my Rock Band Party !!!!!

[DesiredFX]

Just curious... how do you know he's specifically a 4th level manager? Did he volunteer that information? :p

I think he was saying he went four levels up from the original rep he was speaking to, which, presumably, is why it took two hours.

[razalom]

Wouldnt a lovely official reply make everyone so happy if they confirmed this.

[M3wThr33]

One benefit of this hubbub is that somehow (A VERY LONG SHOT, but HEY) the Strat might work in GH3, caused by this forced collaboration.

Then the PS3 versions would become superior to the Xbox version. :D

[Gamemakerman]

The reason for the GH3 Les Poul is working on the Xbox 360 is actually only by a coincidence. The Guitar Hero 2 X-Plore guitar was allways confirming to be working with Rock Band and since the GH3 Guitar uses the very same standard and button layout, it works.

Its nothing more then a coincidence that the 360 users can use the Les Poul. What i dont get is that the patch for the PS3 will move alot more copies of Rock Band of GH3, then without. So i cant see why Red Octane should be complaining about making more money because their rivals makes some poor quality equipment.