Top 10 Most Overrated Films of All Time

[CommonCriminal]

NOT IN ANY ORDER.

10.The Matrix
9.Superbad
8.The Simpsons Movie
7.Gladiator
6.No Country for Old Men
5.Titantic
4.Scarface
3.Donnie Darko
2.Napoleon Dynamite
1.The Dark Knight

Of course, all my opinion.

[JohnTheDrummer]

Ones I agree on...

The Matrix - YES! Omg YES! I thought it was cool when I was younger, so I bought it again when I saw it for $7ish at Wal Mart... got bored.

Superbad - It has its moments... but it was WAY to over talked.

[benson111]

10.The Matrix
9.Superbad
8.Tim Burton/Johnny Depp films
7.Schindler's List
6.No Country for Old Men
5.Titantic
4.The Godfather
3.Donnie Darko
2.Citizen Kane
1.The Dark Knight

Of course, all my opinion.


Sorry that i dont agree, I do agree with "The Matrix" and "Titanic". But the rest are pretty fantastic movies.

[Meatwad555]

Next time, make the title My Top 10 Most Overrated Films of All Time or put the word "opinion" in there because I strongly disagree.

[Der_Lex]

I'd have to disagree on all of those.

[Limelight]

10.The Matrix - eh. it's a good movie, but i'm not going to raise a stink about it.
9.Superbad- Yup
8.Tim Burton/Johnny Depp films- Depends on the movie.
7.Schindler's List -No.
6.No Country for Old Men -No.
5.Titantic - Three hour chickflick. Ugh. Should be #1 on this list.
4.The Godfather - HELL no.
3.Donnie Darko -Never seen it.
2.Citizen Kane- Are you insane? This movie REVOLUTIONIZED the art. It is to film what the Renaissance (all of it) was to painting.
1.The Dark Knight - Kinda agree, but the backlash hasn't really started yet.

Of course, all my opinion.
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[hawkofva]

I haven't seen Superbad or The Dark Knight, I'm not a huge Tim Burton fan, and I personally don't care for Donnie Darko, but the rest of your list consists of great films.

[CommonCriminal]

Next time, make the title My Top 10 Most Overrated Films of All Time or put the word "opinion" in there because I strongly disagree.

I put all my opinion at the bottom.

My list is not about films I don't like , it's about films that deserve more praise IMO then they should have received.

You don't have to agree, I didn't say this was fact.

[LORDJUJU]

I can only agree with The Godfather, it's my #1 overrated. The rest of the list are either really good (Dark Knight and Burton) or better than average.

[Ryyke]

The ones I disagree most with are 1, 3, 6 and 10. Depends on the Tim Burton movie, and I haven't seen 2, 4, 7 and 9. Titanic is definitely overrated.

[Ziiggy Stardust]

I never liked scarface, never understood what the teenage gangsters loved. Godfather was a good one and everything else on the is a good, if not great movie.

[topperharley]

10.The Matrix - mostly disagree (by itself, it's very good, but the sequels ruined the franchise)
9.Superbad - agree (has its moments, but not that great)
8.Tim Burton/Johnny Depp films - haven't seen enough to comment
7.Schindler's List - haven't seen
6.No Country for Old Men - totally agree
5.Titantic - totally agree
4.The Godfather - could not disagree more
3.Donnie Darko - haven't seen
2.Citizen Kane - haven't seen
1.The Dark Knight - totally agree

[CommonCriminal]

The Godfather is one of those films whether either you think it is awesome or you you are like me and saw nothing great about it. That's why there is chocolate and vanilla. I prefer chocolate.

[trench762]

overrated is a dumb term, the reason something is popular is b/c people like it which is the point of the movie being made. And the only movie on the list I agree with is titanic, total chic flick. Johnny Depp movies for the most part are great, tim burton is kinda hit and miss. My least fav depp movies are the ones directed by tim burton though. The dark knight is great, it's not the greatest movie ever made or near the hype it has so possibly overrated but still awesome. Oh yeah, donnie darko is a very cool movie, and until about 5 years after it's release it had barely any attention, now it kinda has a cult following. It's a great movie b/c it makes you think about what's happened/happening after the movie is over. I prefer southland tales from the same director though. If you wanna talk overrated how about rocky horror picture show.

[Metal_Man]

ok it's good that i don't see Green Mile on this list or i'd have to fire mah lazar

[topperharley]

I never liked scarface

I hated that movie.

[fiedy88]

i'm not going to list ten, but i will say that I think Juno is one of the most overrated films of all-time. I'm a film school graduate, and all of my friends love this piece of crap, but I thought it was awful.

As for others talking about the Johnny Depp/TIm Burton collaborations, what is awesome about those movies is how diverse the characters are that Mr. Depp portrays, and yeah, they may all be dark, but they're all different. Unlike certain actors that never play special character and are never ordinary people. Johnny Depp is probably the best character actor of our generation.

[nowimnothing]

i'm not going to list ten, but i will say that I think Juno is one of the most overrated films of all-time. I'm a film school graduate, and all of my friends love this piece of crap, but I thought it was awful.



I'm curious as to what you thought about Napoleon Dynamite..

[vasuseth]

I've actually only seen 2 of those movies aha.

[eringoesmoo]

I'd have to add Napoleon Dynamite or w/e it got really annoying..

[ZOMG_A_RANCOR]

So, did the Op just sit there, and think REALLY REALLY hard about a list of movies that most americans consider to be good/great and then put them on a list, put a jack-assed title on it, and then think he was awesome because he totally defies the mainstream perspective?

I have moneys on "yes"

[masterantonio]

I agree with all of those.

[CommonCriminal]

So, did the Op just sit there, and think REALLY REALLY hard about a list of movies that most americans consider to be good/great and then put them on a list, put a jack-assed title on it, and then think he was awesome because he totally defies the mainstream perspective?

I have moneys on "yes"

I forgot I'm not allowed to make threads to put my opinions in so people can hopefully enjoy reading whether or not they agree with it.

[sa_nick]

10. The Matrix - Still holds up as an okay action movie and has other cool things about it like Animatrix, various short stories set in the matrix world etc.

9. Superbad - As far as I know this isn't over-rated because not many people think its extremely great.

8. Tim Burton/Johnny Depp films - Really only rated well by people on Myspace, usually emo chicks. All the films are good (as far as i can remember) but I wouldn't put any on my top films list (except maybe Big Fish, but that doesn't have Depp in it)

7. Schindler's List - I'm gonna have to agree with this. Because of it's crazy amount of hype I was expecting much more. Athough, I've only seen it once and maybe I was just in the wrong mood.

6.No Country for Old Men - This is a weird one. It seems like the kinda film film buffs would love and everyone else would hate. I think it was just released at a time where "cinema" was big, so crowds of regular people loved it for some reason. Not a bad film, but definitely not in the top 3 of Coen bro's best films.

5.Titantic - Well no one who's opinion I care about rates this well, so i'd say it's only over-rated by people who don't count.

4.The Godfather - What? No!

3.Donnie Darko - (see 8) And the only reason they like it is because they think it's insanely complicated therefore they must be super smart to understand it (if they understand it at all). It wasn't a bad film though. NOTE: This is the same group of people who like Fight Club and Alice in Wonderland.

2.Citizen Kane - Nope, this film was awesome for its time. The pacing wasn't great, but the shots and the lighting and the effects were insane!

1.The Dark Knight - Best Batman movie, ever. For a popcorn blockbuster this movie rocks.

Of course, all my opinion :P

[CommonCriminal]

10. The Matrix - Still holds up as an okay action movie and has other cool things about it like Animatrix, various short stories set in the matrix world etc.

9. Superbad - As far as I know this isn't over-rated because not many people think its extremely great.

8. Tim Burton/Johnny Depp films - Really only rated well by people on Myspace, usually emo chicks. All the films are good (as far as i can remember) but I wouldn't put any on my top films list (except maybe Big Fish, but that doesn't have Depp in it)

7. Schindler's List - I'm gonna have to agree with this. Because of it's crazy amount of hype I was expecting much more. Athough, I've only seen it once and maybe I was just in the wrong mood.

6.No Country for Old Men - This is a weird one. It seems like the kinda film film buffs would love and everyone else would hate. I think it was just released at a time where "cinema" was big, so crowds of regular people loved it for some reason. Not a bad film, but definitely not in the top 3 of Coen bro's best films.

5.Titantic - Well no one who's opinion I care about rates this well, so i'd say it's only over-rated by people who don't count.

4.The Godfather - What? No!

3.Donnie Darko - (see 8) And the only reason they like it is because they think it's insanely complicated therefore they must be super smart to understand it (if they understand it at all). It wasn't a bad film though. NOTE: This is the same group of people who like Fight Club and Alice in Wonderland.

2.Citizen Kane - Nope, this film was awesome for its time. The pacing wasn't great, but the shots and the lighting and the effects were insane!

1.The Dark Knight - Best Batman movie, ever. For a popcorn blockbuster this movie rocks.

Of course, all my opinion :P

I think with The Godfather, I was expecting way too much. With Citizen Kane, I just never understood why they wanted to find what Rosebud meant in the first place. Who cares what it meant? Kinda ruined it for me. The form is awesome though. Some awesome camera shots and lighting. For The Dark Knight , you don't know how many people told me it was the best movie of all time after they saw it. For Titantic, all the girls I know they it is the best movie ever made.

EDIT: I'll say it again, I don't think any of the above films are bad. Just that they get more praise then they deserve.

[DarkEternal37]

10. The Matrix - Awesome movie with decent to average sequels. The story became too convoluted for it's own good, but the first movie is great in it's own right.

9. Superbad - An absolute farce. This movie is the only movie I have ever seen twice in theaters. Back to back nights and I bought the DVD. Such an amazing movie.

8. Tim Burton/Johnny Depp films - Mostly agree but I ultimately don't care.

7. Schindler's List - Only saw it once and it was a while ago. I remember it being okay, but nothing super great.

6.No Country for Old Men - Never saw it.

5.Titantic - Giant. Turd.

4.The Godfather - Really don't have an opinion.

3.Donnie Darko - Never saw it despite the hype.

2.Citizen Kane - Again, saw this once a while ago. Don't remember too much but if it was really super awesome I'd probably remember more. However, I'll agree there's probably a generational gap that negatively impacts it.

1.The Dark Knight - Seriously? I'm not a Batman fan or comic fan in general and I loved it.

[Meatwad555]

I think with The Godfather, I was expecting way too much. With Citizen Kane, I just never understood why they wanted to find what Rosebud meant in the first place. Who cares what it meant? Kinda ruined it for me. The form is awesome though. Some awesome camera shots and lighting. For The Dark Knight , you don't know how many people told me it was the best movie of all time after they saw it. For Titantic, all the girls I know they it is the best movie ever made.

EDIT: I'll say it again, I don't think any of the above films are bad. Just that they get more praise then they deserve.

Twilight. That is all.

[CommonCriminal]

Twilight. That is all.

many girls saw Titantic 5 times, it made the most money of any film domestically not counting inflation.

[onduvalst]

10.The Matrix - So agree. Unless you ubernerd or trying to pose this movie blows. Yes I agree great concept, really bad actor.

9.Superbad - i thought it was cute and funny.

8.Tim Burton/Johnny Depp films - While I appreciate Depps acting, I'm not goth enough to gush over and over about how great the Corpse Bride is.

7.Schindler's List - Do not agree with this at all, This is story about the good of humanity in the darkest hour of modern history, that should never be overrated.

6.No Country for Old Men - Haven't seen, really don't care to.

5.Titantic - Its a good movie, but not the greatest and overly long.

4.The Godfather - Classic.

3.Donnie Darko - I watched this once and have forever felt screwed out of 2 hours, maybe if I was a depressed cutter it would have been better. What was President Laura Roslin even thinking when she did that movie.

2.Citizen Kane - Great classic, you should also watch RKO 281, great movie about the making of Kane, helps with alot of refrences including Rosebud *snicker* Oh and The Cat's Meow, great semi true? murder mystery involving Hearst.

1.The Dark Knight - I totally agree.

Of course, all my opinion :cool:

[Fausttt]

10.The Matrix - This first was good. It had good action, creative use of cameras (even if it wasn't the first to use those techniques, it made "bullet-time" commonplace), and a decent enough storyline. The sequels ruined it. However, it was deserving of most of it's praise.

9.Superbad - It had funny moments, but i don't consider this overrated because it was NEVER rated highly. the only people that gushed about this movie were the intended audience of "grandma's boy" loving idiots. I think it accomplished it's goal. Now if there was talk of giving this an academy award for best comedy. . .then it would be totally overrated.

8.Tim Burton/Johnny Depp films - Depp is a really good actor, even if i do not like many of his roles. Tim burton is generally good as well. Their movies tend to go 50/50. however, they fully deserve the praise they get for going out on limbs. NO ONE pushes the envelope anymore. No one tries to make movies that aren't guaranteed box-office smash hits. These 2 will. When nightmare came out, no one thought a horror themed christmas movie would work. It wasn't my favorite movie but it worked and is still popular today. A musical with people who can't sing about a murderous barber? no way. I didn't enjoy it, but i know plenty of people that did. You have to respect people willing to challenge people even if it ends in failure.

7.Schindler's List - Did you see this movie? Even if you didn't like it, even if you were uncomfortable or disgusted or whatever, you cannot deny the importance of this film. This film was able to portray emotion by the cinematography alone. Would i want to watch this movie again? probably not, but there is no denying it was a very well done movie.

6.No Country for Old Men - ok i can agree on this one.

5.Titantic - I don't know if overrated is the word i'd use for this movie. People still enjoy it today. It wasn't my favorite movie either, but the production quality alone makes this movie deserve most of the praise it received. They did a fantastic job.

4.The Godfather - never seen (it's on my netflix)

3.Donnie Darko - again, i wouldn't say this is overrated as it doesn't get that much attention beyond it's cult following. However, this was a fine movie that made you think. I enjoyed it.

2.Citizen Kane - Never seen, but even you admit to liking the camera techniques and production quality used to make this film. Considering the time it was made, it is no wonder this is praised so highly.

1.The Dark Knight - I agree. It was a good comic movie. Heath ledger did a greta job as joker. but for them to be talking about academy awards. . .rediculous. It was no better than most super-hero movies. The storyline had plot holes and deus ex machinas that helped the plot along. Just lazy writing. By itself, it would not have got nearly the praise it did, but because it was connected with Batman begins, and because heath ledger's death, this got WAAAY overblown.

[RockBandRocker]

"The Godfather" & "Citizen Kane" are film classics!!

The stories they tell are timeless.

[BYC]

Twilight is overrated.

[TopazDolphin]

^ It was! It was also awful! (The movie, I assume?)


NOT IN ANY ORDER.

10.The Matrix
9.Superbad
8.Tim Burton/Johnny Depp films
7.Schindler's List
6.No Country for Old Men
5.Titantic
4.The Godfather
3.Donnie Darko
2.Citizen Kane
1.The Dark Knight

Of course, all my opinion.

Break it down!

10. The Matrix - I haven't seen the film in a long time, but it's probably one of the new sci-fi(ish) films I like. It's also has a solid storyline and some of the most amazing special effects.

9. Superbad - never seen it, nor have any interest in doing so.

8. Tim Burton/Johnny Depp films - erm... both are good.

7. Schindler's List - haven't seen it, but planning to.

6. No Country For Old Men - this was great, compared to the book. Good Lord, don't read it. The author apparently hates quotation marks. :eek:

5. Titanic - this is the only one I agree on. And I have to apologize. I saw the film three times... with my mom and my sister. I may have a tiny part in it being popular... :o

4. The Godfather - looks like it would be a good film...

3. Donnie Darko - uhm, it was decent.

2. Citizen Kane - I dunno, I heard good things about it...

1. The Dark Knight - good film, but the hype confuses me.

[topperharley]

Depp is a really good actor, even if i do not like many of his roles.

That's how I feel about him as well.

[CommonCriminal]

My thing with The Godfather and Citizen Kane is this. These are the two movies that are usually put in the best movie ever made category. I just didn't feel the same way about either.

[Hamsterhitman]

9.Superbad - It had funny moments, but i don't consider this overrated because it was NEVER rated highly. the only people that gushed about this movie were the intended audience of "grandma's boy" loving idiots. I think it accomplished it's goal. Now if there was talk of giving this an academy award for best comedy. . .then it would be totally overrated.

I think they would first have to make an Academy Award for best comedy, haha.

[PuckJunkie]

NOT IN ANY ORDER.

10.The Matrix
9.Superbad
8.Tim Burton/Johnny Depp films
7.Schindler's List
6.No Country for Old Men
5.Titantic
4.The Godfather
3.Donnie Darko
2.Citizen Kane
1.The Dark Knight

Of course, all my opinion.

I was going to post some of mine, but after reading this list I completely blanked. I read "The Matrix" and never recovered.

10.The Matrix - I haven't seen this movie in over ten years, but when I saw it I was 25 and it was the best sci-fi movie I had ever seen. Totally bumped Empire from the perch it had held since I was a kid. Maybe these days those effects are dated, who knows, but then it was amazing. And the plot is great. I don't know another SF movie that drew such praise from both sci-fi geeks and people that don't watch the genre at all.

(I speak only of the original. The second and third movies made me want to gouge out my eyes.)

9.Superbad - I thought this was hilarious. I wouldn't call it overrated, just because I didn't think anybody really rated it that highly.

8.Tim Burton/Johnny Depp films - Assuming you mean ones they were involved in together: Ed Wood, Edward Scissorhands, Sleepy Hollow, Sweeney Todd, Charlie & the Chocolate Factory, etc. Hard to lump them all together, since they vary wildly by both my own estimation and critical acclaim. Ed Wood was freaking great, though. Charlie sucked, IMO of course, but then it got panned too.

7.Schindler's List - Critically acclaimed, deservedly so. No other comment.

6.No Country for Old Men - And again. But I can at least appreciate how someone could not like this, which I can't say for any of the others.

5.Titantic - Okay, I'll buy this one at least. Almost no movie could live up to the hype this endured, and it was, as has been mentioned, a three-hour chick flick.

4.The Godfather - I almost think you just included this to be funny. It's kind of inexplicable. Why don't you just put Pulp Fiction on here and kick me in the nuts?

3.Donnie Darko - While many of these I think are too good to be overrated, this I think is too unknown to be overrated. Sure, those who love it are fanatics, but 90% of the people I know have never heard of it. How can it be overrated?

2.Citizen Kane - Takes a real appreciation of the cinema of the time to rate this one highly, mostly because the techniques pioneered are overused now. I'm not old enough that I was around when this was released, and I think that plays into my lack of appreciation. I wonder if the same effect is in play with some of you and The Matrix?

1.The Dark Knight - Lots of buzz, yes. But I don't think anyone's calling it the greatest movie ever, just one of the best last year. Which it was, I thought, and that's an accomplishment for a superhero movie.

I would call your list epic fail, but on the other hand it's always fun to hear people's opinions. I disagree with virtually all of yours, but that's cool, since divergent opinions keeps the film industry producing a wide variety of films.

My nominee for most overrated film of all time: Gladiator. How in the (@*&#($*@ did that get a nomination for Best Picture? AND WIN?!!

[Hypnozia]

I'm sorry to say that I disagree with your list - I liked them all. (except never saw Citizen Kane)
My vote is for "Moulin Rouge". Everyone I know loved it! I LOVE movies, but I turned this one off after 5 minutes.

[Hypnozia]

My nominee for most overrated film of all time: Gladiator. How in the (@*&#($*@ did that get a nomination for Best Picture? AND WIN?!!

I have to disagree with you on this one. My firstborn son's name is Maximus. Don't be hatin'!:D

[Colt_Steele]

Tips to making a perfectly flame-baited thread:

1) Make the thread a "Most Overrated" list of some kind.

2) Comprise the list of the most respected examples of the subject matter. Round off the list with some filler including recent very popular or highly touted examples.

3) Include obligatory statement about the list being subject to personal opinion.

4) Click "Submit new thread".

5) Sit back and watch the angry replies pile up.

[CommonCriminal]

Tips to making a perfectly flame-baited thread:

1) Make the thread a "Most Overrated" list of some kind.

2) Comprise the list of the most respected examples of the subject matter. Round off the list with some filler including recent very popular or highly touted examples.

3) Include obligatory statement about the list being subject to personal opinion.

4) Click "Submit new thread".

5) Sit back and watch the angry replies pile up.

hee hee

[Rockbandfan23467]

You forgot two steps:

6) ???
7) Profit!

[wursty]

I think you forgot Scarface

[rockfresh126]

Citizen Kane is one of the worst movies I've ever seen. Little known fact...the crowd nearly booed the creator's out of the building when it won Best Picture at the Academy Awards

[opethian]

Citizen Kane is one of the worst movies I've ever seen. Little known fact...the crowd nearly booed the creator's out of the building when it won Best Picture at the Academy Awards

Citizen Kane is a beautiful movie. It was only booed because the movie was seen as slanderous.

[polishdog90]

Wow no love for Donnie Darko? I'm not a huge fan, but none of you guys thought it was good? It was a bit hard to understand, but I thought it was definitely worth seeing. I like movies that make you think.

[kanerules]

One movie I never saw the appeal in, that so many people praise was Napolean Dynamite. My god...it's one thing if a movie isn't that funny, but still has it's chuckle-worthy moments...but this movie made me angry, it was so unfunny.

[kiggidykev]

Heh, #8 is a bit broad, don't you think, OP?

[CommonCriminal]

Heh, #8 is a bit broad, don't you think, OP?

It means movies that have both of those involved. Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, Sweeney Todd. Almost all are overrated due to the high emo fanbase,

[Lolicat]

Citizen Kane and The Matrix I disagree on, because of their contribution to cinema. I feel that Titanic belongs on a special level of Hell, just for the amount spent on it that could ahve gone towards humanitarian aid.

[TheClashTheClashTheClash]

Superbad is not overrated...I love it

[macamatic]

One movie I never saw the appeal in, that so many people praise was Napolean Dynamite. My god...it's one thing if a movie isn't that funny, but still has it's chuckle-worthy moments...but this movie made me angry, it was so unfunny.
Someone who understands how I feel!

Seriously, that movie was such garbage and I will NEVER understand why so many people love it. It wasn't funny. I think I snickered at the part where he runs the tupperware over and that was IT.

I suppose I agree that they're all overrated, but the remarks on The Dark Knight in this thread confuse me. The hype had little to do with the movie and everything to do with Heath Ledger's performance...which was FANTASTIC. Rarely have I seen acting so perfectly suited to one's character, and he definitely deserves an Academy Award for it. Also, the movie itself was totally badass, regardless of the plot holes and such.

[Chemical Phoenix]

Superbad is only overrated because people think it's funny to flaunt McLovin everywhere

[Poop Shovel]

I would remove The Godfather and Schindlers List and add Napolean Dynamite and A Clockwork Orange.

P.S. Any Keanu Reeves film is over-rated. I am not an actor but could act just as good as him.

[Lolicat]

I would remove The Godfather and Schindlers List and add Napolean Dynamite and A Clockwork Orange.

P.S. Any Keanu Reeves film is over-rated. I am not an actor but could act just as good as him.

Reeves isn't an actor, he's a face. That said, The Matrix isn't a Keanu Reeves film, it's a film for the special effects and the storyline, whether or not it is cyberpunk.

[zack10house]

Knocked Up.
Most unfunny movie I've ever seen....all my friends still insist it's hilarious

Superbad.
Funny, but not as funny as everyone seems to think

I Am Legend.
Seriously, why the hype? SO bad

Napoleon Dynamite.
self-explanatory

there are more, but those are the four I immediately think of

[topperharley]

I Am Legend. Seriously, why the hype? SO bad

I don't think it got all that much hype, and a lot of the hype it did get was about how the alternate ending (that wasn't shown in theaters) was better because it was more true to the book (but would have required viewers to think, which is a no no when making a summer blockbuster).

[Rockbandfan23467]

The Dark Knight, all the hype is because of Heath, who should not win an Oscar because, as any actor will tell you, it's easy to potray a psycopath.

[Lolicat]

The Dark Knight, all the hype is because of Heath, who should not win an Oscar because, as any actor will tell you, it's easy to potray a psycopath.

He did it well. I'm not that big a Heath Ledger fan, and was expecting that film to be terrible, but his acting was fantastic compared to that of everyone else in it, and most modern Hollywood productions. I think the movie got too much hype from his death, yes, but to attack his performance seems unfair.

[bood-boy]

NOT IN ANY ORDER.

10.The Matrix
9.Superbad
8.Tim Burton/Johnny Depp films
7.Schindler's List
6.No Country for Old Men
5.Titantic
4.The Godfather
3.Donnie Darko
2.Citizen Kane
1.The Dark Knight

Of course, all my opinion.


BOY am i glad you said Donnie Darko.
thast #1 on my list. it was the first movie that came to my mind when i read the topic. F that movie, its a pile.

my list would also include

Scarface
LOTR: Return of the King

my mind is drawing a blank right now.

i havent seen the dark knight yet cause the hype ruined my desire to see it.

and citizen kane is very highly regarded due to the production value being so high for it being made in the 30's. there are some incredible camera shots done for that time, and it really opened the door for a lot of fancy camerawork.

[Lolicat]

Not ridiculously overrated, but Metropolis is nothing compared to Lang's M, whatever the director's feeling on the use of sound in cinema.

[Rockbandfan23467]

He did it well. I'm not that big a Heath Ledger fan, and was expecting that film to be terrible, but his acting was fantastic compared to that of everyone else in it, and most modern Hollywood productions. I think the movie got too much hype from his death, yes, but to attack his performance seems unfair.

But like I said, it's easy to be the Joker. What's really hard is being emotional.

[Gowienczyk]

Depends which Joker you are portraying; the comics have thrown around the character and reinvented it so many times; that it truly isn't the easiest job playing a psychopath in the vein of the Joker.

Personally I think Heath did a brilliant job of taking Hamil's joker character to the next level and making it to his own.

[neckermanncj]

napolean dynamite - that movie sucked

[Rockbandfan23467]

Depends which Joker you are portraying; the comics have thrown around the character and reinvented it so many times; that it truly isn't the easiest job playing a psychopath in the vein of the Joker.

Personally I think Heath did a brilliant job of taking Hamil's joker character to the next level and making it to his own.

True, but every major version of the Joker has been widely praised, even a few minor versions. It's not hard to be a character who reveals no emotions and just does random things all the time.

[Gowienczyk]

True, but every major version of the Joker has been widely praised, even a few minor versions. It's not hard to be a character who reveals no emotions and just does random things all the time.

Personally, I think Jack's Joker was pretty bad in comparison with post-1980 Batman comics rendition of the Joker. The Joker is a brilliant character; but the Joker? No emotions? I don't think you've even seen the character if you think that. Have you even read the comics; seen anything besides a few films? Blergh....

The Joker is deeper than you think.

[CommonCriminal]

I took out Citizen Kane and The Godfather and will admit I put those in just so the post would get some attention. I also deleted the Tim Burton/Johnny Depp films.

[Tsavo]

Anything George Lucas past 1989.

[MysteryMan]

it's easy to potray a psycopath.

As someone who has taken film classes for two years, including acting classes, this is not true in the slightest. I don't even know where you would begin to pick up this idea.

I'm chatting on MSN with a friend who attends the Ithaca Film School - who has been studying there for three years - and he thinks you're 100% wrong as well. Downplay Heath's performance all you want, but saying "ask any actor, they'll tell you" is just completely wrong.

[Elegy]

Just thought I'd drop in and say something about Superbad...

I guess this also goes in hand with the whole overrated might be overused thing, but really, I don't think it is, and I have yet to see someone say it's an amazingly amazing oscar-worthy movie...but really, the reason I liked it, was one, although perhaps romanticized, it was based on Seth Rogen's childhood, and two, some aspects of it I could connect with it.

I'm 17 and occasionally angsty. Deal with it. haha

[Lolicat]

Exactly, it's more difficult, of anything, to portray a psychopath, because you have to be at once highly emotional, changable and yet maintain believability without losing any of the terrifying 'otherness' of the character. It's a hard balance, and I think that Heath's performance balanced well, at least for most of the film.

[Stewie]

NOT IN ANY ORDER.

10.The Matrix

Awesome movie that opened up some new "what if" ideas never discussed.

9.Superbad

Hilarious film. It's an awesome flick.

8.Pixar films

Most are pretty good.

7.Schindler's List

This is without a doubt one of the best movies ever. From Spielberg's brilliant direction to Liam Neeson amazing acting it's an absolutely chilling flick. I watched it in school years ago. It's so amazingly haunting that I can't watch it again.

6.No Country for Old Men

I'll you give you this one. It was pretty good until the ending. The ending was terrible. It's a very sub par film in my opinion.

5.Titantic

An awesome film. I'm not ashamed to say that it's one of the few films that actually get's me teary eyed.

4.Scarface

Awesome. Pacino's accent may be a little over the top but it's one of the best "gangster" films ever.

3.Donnie Darko

I've only seen pieces of this film. However of what I've seen it looks really good and haunting.

2.Napoleon Dynamite

Great film that's kind of misunderstood cause it's so outside the box. And the humor is pretty dry. "Flippin idiots".

1.The Dark Knight

Amazing film. Heath steals the show although Bale, Freeman, Eckart and the other stars also give great performances. One of the best movies ever. And definitely the best Batman movie hands down.



I really only agree with number 6. The rest range from great to amazing.

[Lolicat]

The Matrix didn't open up new ideas, it merely popularised ideas from Ghost in the Shell and Baudrillard, along with a few other philosophers. It wasn't anything new, just brought to a new audience.

[Stewie]

The Matrix didn't open up new ideas, it merely popularised ideas from Ghost in the Shell and Baudrillard, along with a few other philosophers. It wasn't anything new, just brought to a new audience.

Well I'm not familiar with those works. However I'm betting they didn't copy all of their ideas and portrayed it in a way of their own.

[Lolicat]

Well I'm not familiar with those works. However I'm betting they didn't copy all of their ideas and portrayed it in a way of their own.

Most of the big ideas come from other sources, but I'll not deny it was a great flick. I do sort of hate the way it's popularised those ideas, however, as you now get idiots making Matrix jokes all the time.

Neuromancer would have been another source for them, certainly for the name 'matrix'.

[BYC]

Matrix popularized the idea of living a lie, and how people don't have control of their lives in the modern world. The other 2 Matrix movies tried to expand on the idea, but it obviously went on deaf ears as the result was just another action flick.

[brobot]

All the movies that you love, or made a lot of money, won an Oscar, or that were considered a big deal at any point in history. They are all overrated. All of them.

[Jordanfre]

Lol The Dark Knight was the best movie I've ever seen and everyone I know loved it you can't call a movie overrated if its actually good.

[culturedog]

Comin' at this one pretty late in the game, but here goes:

10.The Matrix - was and is a legitimately great melange of different film, anime, comic and philosphical influences. It's only weakened by its association with its sequels and the fact that the special effects aren't quite as special as they once were.

9.Superbad - Absolutely love this genius film. It was my number one pick of 2007, and I saw it four times in the theater - so I guess that's where I stand on that one. You can read my original review HERE (http://www.wwuh.org/program/culturedogs/Reviews/Sam%20Reviews/superbad.htm)

8.Pixar films - I can't trash the Pixar films. The fact that they were able to usher in a new animation technique using a 'soulless' medium while maintaining a strong grip on story and characterization - well, that just makes them complete badasses.

7.Schindler's List - still have never seen it.

6.No Country for Old Men - I can hang with this one. I thought the last act of the film was digging in interesting dirt, but without any grace or skill. The first two thirds were great, however.

5.Titantic - any relation to Titanic? I can see how the 'corniness' of the story may turn off some (hell, even Cameron knew that his dialogue would repel many). but it's a genuinely epic film that I saw seven times in the theater. The common misperception that only teenage girls were going to see it fails to account for other people (like historical buffs) who got something out of it. It's pretty fashionable nowadays to knock it though.

4.Scarface - I like it enough for the overall Miami Vice type feel, but agree that it's not a 'great' film. It's fun, and it's certainly become a cultural monolith, but it's not the be-all end-all gangster film.

3.Donnie Darko - I'm still amazed with what Richard Kelly was able to pull off so cheaply here. I'm sure alot of people's hatred of this film is tied more to its outspoken fans than the actual movie. But it's still a great, David Lynchian mindwarp - even if it bites off more than it can chew at times.

2.Napoleon Dynamite - I chalk this one up to the subjective nature of comedy. What makes one person belly laugh may do nothing to the next person. My biggest gripe with the movie was that it felt like it was trying way too hard to be quirky. Alot of its weirdness felt forced. That said, I did laugh quite often. But it doesn't work effortlessly enough for me to call it a classic.

1.The Dark Knight - the paint's still barely dry on this one, and it sure was mega-hyped this summer. But Christopher Nolan (as always) did make a very good film here. As the hype dies down I doubt this movie's going to tarnish any.

[Twang]

I think it's stupid that people even use the word 'overrated.' It's like saying you're more qualified to pass judgment on something that everyone else seems to enjoy. That's basically the pinnacle of douchebaggery.

[onduvalst]

I think it's stupid that people even use the word 'overrated.' It's like saying you're more qualified to pass judgment on something that everyone else seems to enjoy. That's basically the pinnacle of douchebaggery.
No, the pinnacle of dbaggery is trolling and making the comment that you are to good to join in our discussion.

[Stewie]

No, the pinnacle of dbaggery is trolling and making the comment that you are to good to join in our discussion.

Seconded. He said these are his opinions not facts. And although I disagree with almost all of his picks he has the right to voice his opinion.

[CommonCriminal]

Deleted Schindler's List, watched it again, and have changed my opinion of it. Replaced with Gladiator.

[Lolicat]

No, the pinnacle of dbaggery is trolling and making the comment that you are to good to join in our discussion.

Dr Girlfriend <3 Awesome avatar.

I think people should read the novel of Schindler's List.

[culturedog]

Deleted Schindler's List, watched it again, and have changed my opinion of it. Replaced with Gladiator.

I love Gladiator for what it is, but agree that it was somehow vaulted into the "great films" zone without really earning it. It had rousing action, solid enough performances and some interesting camerawork, but it didn't really place well enough to be considered "best picture" fodder.

Ridley Scott's made far better films that didn't receive any Academy love.

[Lolicat]

Ridley Scott's back catalogue is so inconsistent I don't even know if I like him as a director anymore.

[culturedog]

Ridley Scott's back catalogue is so inconsistent I don't even know if I like him as a director anymore.

It certainly seems as if he's shed his original 'style' at some point. Whatever used to draw me towards his films in the past seems to be absent from his newer films.

But The Duellists / Alien / Blade Runner / Legend and hell, even Black Rain I freakin' love. Everything after that has been hit or miss.

[Lolicat]

I can forgive him everything purely based on Blade Runner. I'm gonna get back into the Alien films too, it's been ages since I've seen them.

[CommonCriminal]

Just realized the tags. I'm guessing the mods did that

[Rockbandfan23467]

Look at the tags now.

[onduvalst]

I hate The Abyss, I don't know if its overrated, I just don't like it.

[Lolicat]

I watched Alien last night then, and I've gotta admit I'm not wildly impressed. As a simple horror it works, and the special effects hold up, but I don't get the hype about Sigourney Weaver's character being a strong female. What was with going after the cat, setting her gun down, generally screaming and being a 'girly girl' in the last twenty minutes? A good film, but by no means the Feminised sci-fi I was expecting.

[fiedy88]

I'm curious as to what you thought about Napoleon Dynamite..

The first I watched Napoleon Dynamite, I thought it was stupid and overrated, but I like it more with every repeat viewing.

[culturedog]

I watched Alien last night then, and I've gotta admit I'm not wildly impressed. As a simple horror it works, and the special effects hold up, but I don't get the hype about Sigourney Weaver's character being a strong female. What was with going after the cat, setting her gun down, generally screaming and being a 'girly girl' in the last twenty minutes? A good film, but by no means the Feminised sci-fi I was expecting.

The feminism hype was mostly regarding James Cameron's sequel Aliens, which turned Ripley into Rambo-ette towards its end.

Still, Ripley did ultimately solve the problem on her own at the end of Alien, and was able to outwit the creature despite her overwhelming fear.

[Lolicat]

The feminism hype was mostly regarding James Cameron's sequel Aliens, which turned Ripley into Rambo-ette towards its end.

Still, Ripley did ultimately solve the problem on her own at the end of Alien, and was able to outwit the creature despite her overwhelming fear.

I'm acquiring the sequel as we speak, as well as Alien 3. I'm interested in seeing this.
I don't know that you could say she outwitted the creature, I felt the end was a little contrived, and was merely tacked on to end the dionysian aspect of the film and restore a sort of order. What annoyed me most was her going after the damn cat, and Parker not just blasting Lambert with the flamethrower alongside the alien when she wouldn't get out of the way. Sure, the second one I can put down to fear, but going after the cat is silly.

[SETH3]

Im sorry but the most overrated movie ever is Let The Right One In

[CommonCriminal]

Im sorry but the most overrated movie ever is Let The Right One In

I've never even heard of that

[culturedog]

I'm acquiring the sequel as we speak, as well as Alien 3. I'm interested in seeing this.
I don't know that you could say she outwitted the creature, I felt the end was a little contrived, and was merely tacked on to end the dionysian aspect of the film and restore a sort of order. What annoyed me most was her going after the damn cat, and Parker not just blasting Lambert with the flamethrower alongside the alien when she wouldn't get out of the way. Sure, the second one I can put down to fear, but going after the cat is silly.

She definitely comes out better than horror movie heroines like Halloween's Laurie Strode. The finales of both films have always felt similar to me, with the terrorized woman hiding in a closet. But where in Halloween Laurie is essentially paralyzed by her fear, and needs Loomis to rush in to rescue her, in Alien Ripley manages to save her own skin (and show plenty of it in the process).

Anyhow, I thought going after the cat was a stroke of genius. It tapped into people's squeamishness over animals getting killed on film, and I certainly know plenty of people who would make a similarly foolish decision. And it worked the audience over like nobody's business - having the main character become finally 'safe' only to make her voluntarily head back into danger frayed plenty of nerves. This also gets recycled in the sequel, but with a human girl in place of the cat.

If you're planning on checking out Alien3, try to snag the version that includes the original workprint. That one has a little bit more thematic juice to it. Overall, for a basic 'knock off all the characters in the haunted house' tale, David Fincher was able to drag out some interesting performances. Didn't hurt having a cast loaded with quality actors like Charles Dance and Charles S. Dutton either.

[bood-boy]

watched the dark knight this weekend for the first time......

it is DEFINATELY the most overrated movie ive ever, ever, ever seen, and probbly will ever see.

best movie ever my ass.

[toymachineSH]

stupid opinions are stupid

[King_Nuthin]

Late to the party, but I hated the Dark Knight. Perhaps I was a victim of overhyped expectations, but I loved Batman Begins and I was checking my watch during this one, as it turns out were my two companions - it was rather amusing how hesitant we were to admit it to one another but how relieved we were when we found ourselves in agreement.

re: Ledger - he certainly was better than Jack but I did not see anything in the performance to convince me that we had lost a generational talent either, just a serviceable actor who gave a few fine performances mixed in with dozens of bad ones. The Oscar hype is undeserved, imho.

[Twang]

Seconded. He said these are his opinions not facts. And although I disagree with almost all of his picks he has the right to voice his opinion.

Well, no **** he does, but he doesn't have to say 'everyone is wrong about these movies' to voice his opinion.

[instantdeath999]

If I were to make a "top 10 most misused or overused words of all time", overrated would surely be on there.

[topperharley]

If I were to make a "top 10 most misused or overused words of all time", overrated would surely be on there.

That's ironic that you say that. :p

[instantdeath999]

That's ironic that you say that. :p

I could always go with a "most overrated words", if that's less ironic :cool:

[CommonCriminal]

Who brought this thread back from the dead?

[CommonCriminal]

Well, no **** he does, but he doesn't have to say 'everyone is wrong about these movies' to voice his opinion.

I didn't say that...