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CigDangle
11-27-2007, 08:40 AM
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EDIT: I posted links to all drum mods, including a new one for the bass pedal, in this post:

http://community.rockband.com/vbforum/showthread.php?t=13539
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I made custom pads for each of the drum heads, and they work great.

http://generationgamerz.com/v2/insight/time-for-rock-band-arts-crafts.php

To answer a few questions I've gotten in other posts:

Removing a pad from the drum did not leave a mark or damage the skin.
I can't make a video unless I want to make a new pad, as it doesn't stick too well after removing
You can find the felt and foam in the "Kids' Crafts" section at Michael's
If you do not use the adhesive foam to apply it to the drum head, the pad tends fly off

Hope this all helps. I have an idea or two for the bass pedal. I'll be sure to post if I figure something out.

Xero314
11-27-2007, 08:53 AM
Being as I want to quiet my drums I will be trying this when I get home. My only question is if it would work using elastic bands to hold the covers on rather than an adhesive, this what to surely not effect the warranty.

Tragic_H3R0
11-27-2007, 09:14 AM
This has got to be the best solution to the noise off of drum problem. I will be doing this to my drum set as soon as I can.

HellishFiend
11-27-2007, 09:20 AM
If you do not use the adhesive foam to apply it to the drum head, the pad tends fly off

this is bad? Pads flying off = \m/

admanimal
11-27-2007, 09:25 AM
My only question is if it would work using elastic bands to hold the covers on rather than an adhesive, this what to surely not effect the warranty.

I wouldn't worry about the adhesive. I have tried to put tape and various other sticky things on the pads in the process of trying to quiet them, and to be honest I haven't gotten anything to stick at all! It sounds like this sticky foam works, but I doubt you have to worry about it damaging anything when you remove it.

I_Coma_I
11-27-2007, 09:39 AM
I don't live in an apartment but I find the noise the drums make, highly annoying so this is a great idea. I'll definetely be picking the stuff up for this, tonight.

boboette
11-27-2007, 09:46 AM
Does it affect sensitivity at all? Especially for expert level rapid notes.

Brane Ded
11-27-2007, 09:47 AM
I just took some of the foamish packaging material from the box and wrapped it around the tips of the drum sticks. I call them my silencers.

I_Coma_I
11-27-2007, 09:50 AM
I just took some of the foamish packaging material from the box and wrapped it around the tips of the drum sticks. I call them my silencers.

That's a decent idea, as well. Why, oh why, did I throw all that packing material, away?

It's karma... I didn't recycle so now, i'm paying the price.

wickedbadz
11-27-2007, 10:01 AM
good idea, I just did mine, the wife had all colored foam and felt laying around I just used double back tape to hold them on, now the pads are as quiet as my yamaha electric kit and still hit really well

surferbill
11-27-2007, 10:09 AM
great idea bud...not only is it a good solution, it looks clean and nice too..definite plus.

This is my weekend project..Michael's is right up the road :)

wEEman33
11-27-2007, 10:10 AM
So how much did all the supplies cost?

I know my roommate and my neighbors would appreciate the dampened thwacking.

sabre03
11-27-2007, 02:46 PM
Awesome Idea
I'll be picking up supplies up tomm. can't wait.

polishdog90
11-27-2007, 02:59 PM
I made custom pads for each of the drum heads, and they work great.

How much did this cost all together? (minus the cutting board)

polishdog90
11-27-2007, 03:07 PM
I can't make a video unless I want to make a new pad, as it doesn't stick too well after removing

Can you make a video of you playing it so we can see how quiet it is?

admanimal
11-27-2007, 03:24 PM
I just followed his instructions and made a set for myself. They do work very well. Previously I had fairly thick foam wrapped around the ends of the drum sticks, which was equally effective at keeping them quiet but made the drums much less sensitive and almost impossible to do a roll (because of the size of the foam balls on the ends of the sticks).

The suggested method didn't seem to affect the sensitivity at all, but I think it is important to use the adhesive backed materials that can be stuck directly together rather than any kind of tape, as tape is likely to leave gaps between things that can affect the sensitivity.

My GF already had a circle cutter and a cutting board (and you can skip this if you have some way of drawing and cutting circles with scissors accurately), but the rest of the material was less than $15 I believe.

Tragic_H3R0
11-27-2007, 03:29 PM
I wasn't able to find self adhesive foam pads at my local Micheal's, so I substituded cork boards. The kind you hang on walls that are about 1/2in thick. Probably not as good as the op's method, but it does the job. I am still going to get the foam pads, though.

admanimal
11-27-2007, 03:39 PM
For everyone's reference, the kind of foam that I used is called Foamies "no messy glue" sheets. I think it's the same material that the OP used and in any case, works great. It is in the kids section at Michael's. The felt sheets were "Quick Stick" adhesive-backed felt.

Foamies:

http://www.joann.com/joann/catalog.jsp?CATID=cat3156&PRODID=prd51961

(I just got 4 individual sheets rather than a 40 pack)

Felt:

http://www.cpesource.com/productcart/pc/viewCat_m.asp?idCategory=75

(I did in fact get both of these things at Michael's -although they don't have either on their website)

Pellakin
11-27-2007, 03:54 PM
The foam pads were $0.79 apiece and the felt sheets were $0.99 apiece.

The circle cutter was $19 bucks.

Obviously, if you skip the cutter and really want to free-trace and free-cut everything, you'll save considerable money. In fact, your biggest expense will probably be the gas driving to and from the craft store for the materials.

I installed it all with no problems - I just haven't had a chance to get and try them out since I got home late and don't want to make the neighbors angry again.

polishdog90
11-27-2007, 04:03 PM
The foam pads were $0.79 apiece and the felt sheets were $0.99 apiece.

The circle cutter was $19 bucks.

Obviously, if you skip the cutter and really want to free-trace and free-cut everything, you'll save considerable money. In fact, your biggest expense will probably be the gas driving to and from the craft store for the materials.

I installed it all with no problems - I just haven't had a chance to get and try them out since I got home late and don't want to make the neighbors angry again.

does the circle cutter come in a package, because if it doesnt I could just use it and try to return it.

Pellakin
11-28-2007, 12:52 AM
The one I got came in a plastic package that's not sealed like it's Fort Knox - like half the stuff you get at Best Buy. It had a couple of "tabs" at the top that "snap" together and I think you could probably open it up and put the stuff back in with no one noticing. I put the stuff back in the package for storage in the bottom of a drawer somewhere, since I'll never use it again. I'm at work, so I can't remember the brand. It was over in the paper section with scissors and straight-line paper cutters.

Malev0lent
11-28-2007, 01:06 AM
What a great idea. Amazing what a little determination can produce.

mrloofer
11-28-2007, 01:09 AM
Vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oj2vSU7oF4

Chibi_Knight
11-28-2007, 02:37 AM
I'd like to know how thick the rubber/felt combo is after pressing them together.

The mousepads I cut are about 1/8" and seem to dampen the sound quite abit. Problem is that they are heavy and PITA to have them stay put short of using SprayGlue or something along those lines. I do not really not want to do that because usually those are permanent and leave a residue.

Insignificant_Other
11-28-2007, 02:44 AM
Being as I want to quiet my drums I will be trying this when I get home. My only question is if it would work using elastic bands to hold the covers on rather than an adhesive, this what to surely not effect the warranty.

I made some very simple pads just using basic mouse pads bought from Staples (plain blue, $5 each), cutting circles using a box cutter and a bowl (which happened to be just the perfect size), and holding them in place with a single heavy rubber band. They are working like champs, and have cut the noise significantly without any noticeable loss in sensitivity. It doesn't look as nice as the ones proposed in this thread, but it was really cheap and really easy.

CigDangle
11-28-2007, 02:54 AM
Vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oj2vSU7oF4

Thanks so much for making this video. I just haven't had the time to do it myself. I'm glad it worked well for you.

The supplies are cheap, under $8, but the circle cutter is around $15-20.
It does little if anything to effect the sensitivity
Using tape underneath a non-adhesive pad does not work well. I tried that first.

Hope you are enjoying it. The response has been insane, so apparently, I was not the only person looking for a fix. :D

CigDangle
11-28-2007, 02:55 AM
I'd like to know how thick the rubber/felt combo is after pressing them together.

The mousepads I cut are about 1/8" and seem to dampen the sound quite abit. Problem is that they are heavy and PITA to have them stay put short of using SprayGlue or something along those lines. I do not really not want to do that because usually those are permanent and leave a residue.

It's quite thin, and still sits below the outer ring

killi_
11-28-2007, 03:10 AM
did this. cost $30 total with the paper cutter. took 20 minites start to finish. looks just like the pic posted and after i completed this, it made made, i'd say, about a 50-75% reduction in the sound. no sensitivity loss at all, as even a super light tap on the red pad with my off beat weak arm laydown causes me to lose my streak as it registers the hit.

awesome post and thanks a ton for the instructions, works great, looks great!!!

TheTogfather
11-28-2007, 03:10 AM
Thanks so much for making this video. I just haven't had the time to do it myself. I'm glad it worked well for you.

The supplies are cheap, under $8, but the circle cutter is around $15-20.
It does little if anything to effect the sensitivity
Using tape underneath a non-adhesive pad does not work well. I tried that first.

Hope you are enjoying it. The response has been insane, so apparently, I was not the only person looking for a fix. :D

Yah, I picked up the supplies last night and will be applying them tonight. Thanks again for pioneering this effort for us. I hope my scissoring skills are up-to-par as I really didn't want to throw down on a circle cutter. Not too concerned with making it look 100% professional as your set-up is, but at least need to make sure it fits/covers the pads well. Guess we'll see.

mrloofer
11-28-2007, 03:16 AM
Kinda makes you wonder why HMX hadn't done this in the first place eh?

gutterboy44
11-28-2007, 03:27 AM
anyone try expanding the felt to cover the hard plastic rims? I find those generate the loudest 'clack' noise, that and accidentally hitting my sticks together on rolls. I think I am going to pick up these supplies tonight and give it a shot. Good post man.

admanimal
11-28-2007, 03:28 AM
Kinda makes you wonder why HMX hadn't done this in the first place eh?

I think they just wanted to stay closer to what a real drum kit feels like, rebound wise and such.

nosaj53
11-28-2007, 03:31 AM
Here's what i did. I used the mousepad idea. the rebound and sensitivity are great. the noise is greatly reduced. I love it!!!!

Mistersh0w
11-28-2007, 04:26 AM
I made custom pads for each of the drum heads, and they work great.

http://generationgamerz.com/v2/insight/time-for-rock-band-arts-crafts.php

To answer a few questions I've gotten in other posts:

Removing a pad from the drum did not leave a mark or damage the skin.
I can't make a video unless I want to make a new pad, as it doesn't stick too well after removing
You can find the felt and foam in the "Kids' Crafts" section at Michael's
If you do not use the adhesive foam to apply it to the drum head, the pad tends fly off

Hope this all helps. I have an idea or two for the bass pedal. I'll be sure to post if I figure something out.

I followed these directions perfectly, (Except I couldn't find the adhesive foam rubber at my Michaels, which turned out to be a problem because there's not really an alternative that won't damage the drum head... I opted for the non-adhesive foam rubber, and bought some double sided scrapbook tape, which after some heavy petting, stuck to the drum pad well, and will not damage the rubber.) I love the results, the noise is GREATLY reduced! This is the way to go for a cheap easy way to lessen the noise! Thanks a bunch CigDangle!

TheTogfather
11-28-2007, 04:40 AM
anyone try expanding the felt to cover the hard plastic rims? I find those generate the loudest 'clack' noise, that and accidentally hitting my sticks together on rolls. I think I am going to pick up these supplies tonight and give it a shot. Good post man.

That's an interesting idea too, but I'm thinking that leaving the felt/foam to cover only the actual pad portion will hopefully encourage me to hit the drums correctly. Unless you're going for the rimshot I guess...

mobhit101
11-28-2007, 05:04 AM
That's an interesting idea too, but I'm thinking that leaving the felt/foam to cover only the actual pad portion will hopefully encourage me to hit the drums correctly. Unless you're going for the rimshot I guess...

Exactly what I was thinking.

I'm definitely doing this while waiting for my replacement kick pedal! :rolleyes:
Thanks for the video dude! That's what convinced me!

LoneBal
11-28-2007, 05:28 AM
Can you make a video of you playing it so we can see how quiet it is?
Some guy followed the directions from the article (he linked to it) and posted the video of him playing on youtube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oj2vSU7oF4

I did this to mine, it work's awesome, looks good. It's quieter, but the felt really dampens the sound so you don't get that pop from the foam rubber.

LoneBal
11-28-2007, 05:41 AM
How much did this cost all together? (minus the cutting board)
I have done this. The circle cutter is less than $15, can't remember exactly. But the foam rubber (Foamie Sheet Sticky Back) was $0.79 each (4 sheets). And the felt (EZ Felt Sticky Back) was $0.99 each (4 sheets). So, without the circle cutter it's $7.12+tax, unless you screw up cutting one. Even with the circle cutter, it's just over $20, and if you know someone else with the drum kit, you can divide the cost of the circle cutter.

mrloofer
11-28-2007, 05:59 AM
Kotaku picked this story up: http://kotaku.com/gaming/mods/rock-band-drum-mod-keeps-music-silent-like-it-should-be-327498.php

Amish Robot
11-28-2007, 12:00 PM
Just a quick response to both thank the OP and bump this back up. I gave it a shot and it works great! The noise is greatly reduced, and it doesn't affect the response at all. In fact I actually play better, since I'm not as worried about my neighbors. (though I'm still only good enough to fumble through meduim) :D I recommend anyone living in an apartment give it a shot. Total cost for me was $25 including $16 for the circle cutter.

jeepman83706
11-28-2007, 12:09 PM
Dude!! I just did the felt/foam on my drums and it works great!! I live in a house, but I much prefer the drum sounds coming from the game over my loud clacking. Thanks so much!!

Tekkor
11-28-2007, 12:13 PM
Iwent to my local Micheals today to get this stuff...they had the felt ones but they didnt have the self adhesive foam sheets. They only had regular sheets. So I held off buying anything but I guess I should have maybe just got it all and then used some double sided tape or something.

MQCDoc
11-28-2007, 12:33 PM
I live in Canada but i cant find the foam/felt to do it... any suggestions?

Ive been at Omer de Serres and they dont have any of the required stuff.
I dont really know where to look.

Please help me :)

Amish Robot
11-28-2007, 02:47 PM
I live in Canada but i cant find the foam/felt to do it... any suggestions?

Ive been at Omer de Serres and they dont have any of the required stuff.
I dont really know where to look.

Please help me :)

I'm not sure what stores are in Canada, but try any crafts or hobby stores nearby. They'll likely be located in the kids or papercraft/scrapbooking sections.

crustyjuggler
11-28-2007, 02:51 PM
I just finished applying the mods to my drums and they work great. I would like to add that if you go to Hobby Lobby you might get what your looking for. I went there to get the adhesive foam cause for some reason Michaels didn't have it. Anyways, it works like a champ.:D

pmpboarder
11-28-2007, 02:55 PM
Very nice! Cheap and Easy happens to be my middle name, so I appreciate this. :) I'll do this soon.

StandingO
11-28-2007, 03:25 PM
I did this tonight to my drums and it's much quieter - easier to play when my son is asleep for the night. This is a great addition to the drums at a low cost - many thanks for sharing your wonderful idea!

admanimal
11-28-2007, 03:31 PM
I used black felt on all the pads but cut the circles so that you can still see the colored rings on the pads. Looks and works great.

Also, I would advise against using any kind of tape on the pads as it tends to not stick well and you really need to have a tight seal to the pads to avoid a loss in sensitivity.

Harsher
11-28-2007, 03:33 PM
Haha, looks like Simon! But great job dude. :p

xCHRISx
11-28-2007, 03:34 PM
I used black felt on all the pads but cut the circles so that you can still see the colored rings on the pads. Looks and works great.

Also, I would advise against using any kind of tape on the pads as it tends to not stick well and you really need to have a tight seal to the pads to avoid a loss in sensitivity.

Can you post a pic of yours? This is what I was thinking of doing, wondering what the end result looks like. Thanks!

nate
11-28-2007, 03:36 PM
does the circle cutter come in a package, because if it doesnt I could just use it and try to return it.

i dig your style, we should hang out

deathstick
11-28-2007, 05:19 PM
Iwent to my local Micheals today to get this stuff...they had the felt ones but they didnt have the self adhesive foam sheets. They only had regular sheets. So I held off buying anything but I guess I should have maybe just got it all and then used some double sided tape or something.

I found the felt and the foam in the same aisle, right across from each other. The circle cutter is made by Fiskars and it was $15. They do a good job in reducing the stick noise but I feel like I'm having to hit a bit harder to get them to register. Maybe it's just not a good seal between the foam and the drum pad?

joeymg
11-29-2007, 02:33 AM
Iwent to my local Micheals today to get this stuff...they had the felt ones but they didnt have the self adhesive foam sheets. They only had regular sheets. So I held off buying anything but I guess I should have maybe just got it all and then used some double sided tape or something.

At my Michael's, the self-adhesive foam came in a 12 pack for $7.99, which isn't mentioned in the original mod thread. If you were looking for single sheets you probably didn't see this 12-pack, but I'm assuming most Michael's have similar stock, so if you have yet to take the plunge on this mod, keep an eye out for this pack if you can't find single sheets. My store had single NON-ADHESIVE sheets, but not adhesive. Easy to get confused, I suppose.

I'm actually glad I ended up getting the 12-pack, so now I can do another mod if my original drum kit craps out on me.

I'd also like to further endorse this mod...did it last night and it works great! Feels like I'm actually drumming instead of tapping on a desk with pencils. Thanks for sharing.

topperharley
11-29-2007, 02:54 AM
Weird how you don't notice things until someone mentions it. I drive by a Michael's every day on my way to/from work, but today was the first day I noticed it. I thought "sweet deal, I can get the stuff for the drum mod there on my way home!"

shibumi
11-29-2007, 03:05 AM
Add another one to the list... did this mod yesterday - took all of 10 mins - and the results are amazing!!

My wife is no longer complaining about the -clack-clack-clack- and I don't even notice the drum sounds while playing anymore!!

Just to throw another store out there - JoAnn Fabrics - they had the Fisker circle cutter on sale for $11! We went to two Michaels stores and they were sold out... wonder if it's due to this mod! LOL


:D

Pellakin
11-29-2007, 05:22 AM
Replying to an earlier post:

The brand of circle cutter I got was "Making Memories" - it comes in a clear hard plastic package with an included black cutting board with inch markings, etc.

I double-checked and it's not really re-packageable. You do have to tear open some of the package, making it impossible to re-seal.

Something else that hit me as I was reading through this (and other) threads...it's just funny to think of the Michael's execs sitting in their offices looking at sales reports early next month thinking, "Damn! We sure are selling a lot of foam rubber and felt this season! Did Martha Steward do a TV special or something?"

:)

tucsonovernite
11-29-2007, 05:35 AM
....They do a good job in reducing the stick noise but I feel like I'm having to hit a bit harder to get them to register. Maybe it's just not a good seal between the foam and the drum pad?

Yeah I went ahead with this last night and yes, as you mentioned the drums do lose a touch of sensitivity....I don't mind hitting them a bit harder and thankfully my wife stopped complaining about the noise. Guess my point is yes you hit the drums harder but that still doesnt cause nearly the racket of no foam at all.

Thanks so much to the OP for this idea

SoulScreme
11-29-2007, 05:50 AM
Question, does the felt come in black? I'm going to Michael's on the way home from work, but I want to try a variation on this either using dot stickers to the color or felt cut outs. I'd like it to be black with the color only on a small portion in the center of the color.

If I do felt cut outs I was considering trying a design, like a skull.

Iddy_Biddy
11-29-2007, 06:24 AM
Replying to an earlier post:

Something else that hit me as I was reading through this (and other) threads...it's just funny to think of the Michael's execs sitting in their offices looking at sales reports early next month thinking, "Damn! We sure are selling a lot of foam rubber and felt this season! Did Martha Steward do a TV special or something?"

:)

So true :D. This is the best thing a game has done for Michael's.

LoneBal
11-29-2007, 06:25 AM
When I did this on mine, there was black felt as well at the store, but I opted for the color. Guess it really doesn't matter, since it's the order, not really the color you worry about.

SoulScreme
11-29-2007, 06:29 AM
When I did this on mine, there was black felt as well at the store, but I opted for the color. Guess it really doesn't matter, since it's the order, not really the color you worry about.

Like I said, I am going to have the color on the drum head. I just don't want the whole drum head to be bright goofy colors is all.

LoneBal
11-29-2007, 06:37 AM
Like I said, I am going to have the color on the drum head. I just don't want the whole drum head to be bright goofy colors is all.
Yeah, I did it, then thought maybe should have gone with the black, would have probably looked better. Be sure to post pics when you're done, let us see how that turns out.

twlazzeri
11-29-2007, 06:37 AM
I made custom pads for each of the drum heads, and they work great.

http://generationgamerz.com/v2/insight/time-for-rock-band-arts-crafts.php

To answer a few questions I've gotten in other posts:

Removing a pad from the drum did not leave a mark or damage the skin.
I can't make a video unless I want to make a new pad, as it doesn't stick too well after removing
You can find the felt and foam in the "Kids' Crafts" section at Michael's
If you do not use the adhesive foam to apply it to the drum head, the pad tends fly off

Hope this all helps. I have an idea or two for the bass pedal. I'll be sure to post if I figure something out.
May I say I did it exactly according to your instructions last night and it worked great, even for someone artistically/technically challenged like me! I was more concerned about noise just due to the annoyance but after spending $37 at Michael's for everything, it is amazing! No lack of responsiveness in the drums, they look great and they're much quieter. Good work!

CigDangle
11-29-2007, 07:17 AM
Apparently this was a good idea I came up with and perfected with my brother. :D

I'm glad you are enjoying the idea, and making your own modifications. Time to address a few more things:

Where to get stuff in Canada? - Not sure about the fabric, but I know the circle cutter can be bought from Amazon here (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0006OKSDY?ie=UTF8&tag=generatiogame-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B0006OKSDY).
The blade from this cutter (http://http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0006OKSDY?ie=UTF8&tag=generatiogame-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B0006OKSDY) will cut all the way through the foam and the felt sheets, but you must press firmly.
Michael's in Wisconsin sells individual sheets of self-adhesive foam and felt, as well as the 12 sheet packages. They were in the Kids' Crafts section.
The supplies should cost you under $8 before tax (not including the cost of the circle cutter which is around $15)
The pads do no eliminate the noise, but they reduce it, and remove the sharp "snap" sound made when the sticks hit the unmodded drum head
I am unsure if they reduce bounce, but I suppose they might a little
I do not notice a difference in sensitivity, but I tend to play a bit hard.
I strongly suggest you use the self-adhesive felt and not mounting, double-sided, or regular tape. I originally tried these, and the results were poor.
I am actively working on a "mod" for the bass pedal. I'll post it here, but be sure to watch for it at Generation: Gamerz (http://www.generationgamerz.com).
I have had numerous emails asking me to sell them a set of pads for them. I will consider this if I do receive a number of requests, but I suggest you just try it out.

netshark
11-29-2007, 11:26 AM
Thanks for the idea, here's a pic of my mod.

http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/3489/drumscg0.jpg

AVC808
11-29-2007, 11:30 AM
if i try this, i think im going to opt for black felt, without the painted lettering.

dxduece
11-29-2007, 03:34 PM
Just tried this out. I gotta say it works great! I was a bit apprehensive about the adhesive so I just cut the circles a bit bigger where they fit in nice and tight and haven't had any problems with them popping out or anything. I'm able to remove them just in case my drumset decides to take a crap without leaving any adhesive residue. Brilliant thinking, my friend! :D

SoulScreme
11-29-2007, 03:43 PM
So, I ran out of felt, screwed a piece up. So, the green pad only has foam on it for now. However, the other 3 pads turned out great. Here is a pick of it with plain black felt.
http://www.mashedbuttons.com/images/drum_pads.jpg

xCHRISx
11-29-2007, 03:46 PM
Looks awesome Soul!

SoulScreme
11-29-2007, 03:50 PM
If any body needs the foam rubber, I have like 7 sheets left, had to buy a 12 pack.

smith5879
11-29-2007, 04:30 PM
How is the stick rebound after the mod is done?

dxduece
11-29-2007, 04:46 PM
How is the stick rebound after the mod is done?

I haven't noticed any difference, but I play pretty hard.

joeblack982
11-29-2007, 08:04 PM
I did this tonight when I bought it. It definitely reduces the sound, however, i had to pound on the drums most of the time for it to register. It's sort of a trade off, pound harder for more quietness. However, I got so tired playing tonight that I took them off and set them aside for now. After taking them off, you find out how much better the drums play, but how much louder it is too :)

okonomiyakiz
11-30-2007, 12:37 AM
Just picked up all the materials needed. Thanks for the great idea. I will post pics once its done. :D

netshark
11-30-2007, 02:19 AM
sigh... After finishing the mod, the noise was considerably reduced, and overall it is very quiet because i have some foam on the tips of the drumsticks as well. And I have a down comforter under the drum set to try and absorb some of the sound. So I was excited and actually played without worrying about the sound since when i try to play soft i miss a lot of notes. Yet, sure enough the people below me banged on their ceiling. I live on a 3rd floor apartment. The sound is not loud at all, so it must be the vibrations traveling through the floor. Anyone have any suggestions that might work? Cuz apparently the comforter doesn't do squat. And not ever being able to play the drums just isnt an option.

matrix2222
11-30-2007, 03:31 AM
Just did the mod...Cig...Thank You...sniff, sniff, thank you for this wonderful gift.

Symbiosis
11-30-2007, 03:59 AM
If you lack the store in your area and have to buy online (like me)
I found it kind of hard to find these things online, but I did. So I thought I'd save some people some time and link them.

Adhesive Rubber:
http://ellison.com/shop/?p=product_detail&itemnum=17020

Adhesive Felt:
http://ellison.com/shop/?p=product_detail&itemnum=17060

They both come in packs of 6.

As for the circle cutter, that might be easier for you to find.

admanimal
11-30-2007, 04:01 AM
Adhesive Rubber:
http://ellison.com/shop/?p=product_detail&itemnum=17020



That rubber is actually not the same thing as the foam that the OP suggests, although I don't see why it can't work as well or better, as long as it still reduces the noise.

Also when you buy the felt, make sure you get soft felt that has not been stiffened at all. I don't think the stiff felt will reduce the noise as well and may not be as durable.

dnelson315
11-30-2007, 04:04 AM
And I have a down comforter under the drum set to try and absorb some of the sound. So I was excited and actually played without worrying about the sound since when i try to play soft i miss a lot of notes. Yet, sure enough the people below me banged on their ceiling. I live on a 3rd floor apartment. The sound is not loud at all, so it must be the vibrations traveling through the floor. Anyone have any suggestions that might work? Cuz apparently the comforter doesn't do squat. And not ever being able to play the drums just isnt an option.


I have the same issue and kind find anything reasonably priced to fix this. There is vibration pads you can buy for like a washer/dryer but they are very expensive. There made out of high density rubber but I can't seem to locate anything like that for a resonable price. If anyone has any ideas I would be so grateful

sambao21
11-30-2007, 04:35 AM
I did this tonight when I bought it. It definitely reduces the sound, however, i had to pound on the drums most of the time for it to register. It's sort of a trade off, pound harder for more quietness. However, I got so tired playing tonight that I took them off and set them aside for now. After taking them off, you find out how much better the drums play, but how much louder it is too :)

Same here, the mod definetly dampens the sound, and i feel like it's protecting the wear and tear on the drum heads, but it's not registering as well, that or the drums are faulty. i'm going to take them off and see if it's not the drums themselves. might have to get it replaced.

fightingirish78
11-30-2007, 04:37 AM
i did the mod and the red and green ones are definitely lighter sounding ...but the blue and yellow ones are still the same volume as before....did i put those 2 on wrong by mistake? is it becuase they seem higher up that the foam doesnt work as good as the flatter, outer ones? if i messed it up, can i peel them off and reapply them without a problem? thanks for any help and this is def a great mod.

dammen
11-30-2007, 04:54 AM
Has anyone tried one of these?
http://www.steveweissmusic.com/product/29927/drum-muffles

Black_Heaven
11-30-2007, 05:09 AM
Did this yesterday. Might re-do it later.

The Micheals I went to didn't have all the colors I was going to need to do my original idea, but meh, maybe they will later. Ended up with red foam and black felt. 4 sheets of foam, 4 sheets of felt and 1 circle cutter for just under $25 bucks.

The reuction in noise isn't as much as I thought it might've been, but it is miles better than nothing at all. I haven't notice any reduction in the sensitivity of the drums themselves. I can still play lightly and drum hits register just fine.

For once an arts and crafts store serves a useful purpose for me.

DoctorSpaghetti
11-30-2007, 05:14 AM
THIS is what I'm going to try. Less messy. Haven't tried it yet but I'm guessing it will work infinitely better too.

http://www.guitarcenter.com/Tama-TCP10D-Silent-Tips-440041-i1135226.gc

cybermousey
11-30-2007, 05:21 AM
THIS is what I'm going to try. Less messy. Haven't tried it yet but I'm guessing it will work infinitely better too.

http://www.guitarcenter.com/Tama-TCP10D-Silent-Tips-440041-i1135226.gc

Please let us know how that works out. Even better, youtube it, so we can hear/see the difference

AVC808
11-30-2007, 05:29 AM
bummer. went to the local craft store chain here (we dont have a michaels chain, although i have walked through on in vegas, and they are pretty big), anyways the craft store is small...they dont carry adhesive foam, just foam pads and craft glue. i dont want to glue anything down! and the adhesive felt seemed a little stiff. i think that defeats the whole purpose of dampening the sound.

cig - if you end up making pads in black or can get the supplies for cheap i'd be interested.

admanimal
11-30-2007, 05:32 AM
and the adhesive felt seemed a little stiff. i think that defeats the whole purpose of dampening the sound.



Yeah, you don't want the stiff felt. They normally should have another type of adhesive felt that is very flexible (like a piece of cloth).

dxduece
11-30-2007, 05:43 AM
If you guys have a Super Wal Mart nearby (which I think pretty much everyone does these days lol), that's where I found all the needed supplies. ;)

CigDangle
11-30-2007, 05:48 AM
First off, stiff felt works fine. Soft felt may cause a problem with sensitivity...that I can see.

The pads, as I made them, do little for sensitivity; i.e. they don't affect it.

I've had a number of requests again for making pads for people, and someone even posted a poll regarding the idea (which was then closed), so I put up my own poll. Please weigh in!

Thanks again for all the support!

Take Poll Here (http://generationgamerz.com/v2/component/option,com_pollxt/task,voting/pollid,13/Itemid,1/)

*Sorry, but you'll have to register for the site to vote.*

SoulScreme
11-30-2007, 05:51 AM
First off, stiff felt works fine. Soft felt may cause a problem with sensitivity...that I can see.

The pads, as I made them, do little for sensitivity; i.e. they don't affect it.

I've had a number of requests again for making pads for people, and someone even posted a poll regarding the idea (which was then closed), so I put up my own poll. Please weigh in!

Thanks again for all the support!

Take Poll Here (http://generationgamerz.com/v2/component/option,com_pollxt/task,voting/pollid,13/Itemid,1/)

*Sorry, but you'll have to register for the site to vote.*

I guess some people are lazy. I made these myself in under a half hour.

CigDangle
11-30-2007, 05:57 AM
I guess some people are lazy. I made these myself in under a half hour.

Yes, it is quick and simple, but apparently some people wanted me to make them. If I get a good response, I will.

In the meantime, I hope they are working well for you.

SoulScreme
11-30-2007, 06:11 AM
First off, stiff felt works fine. Soft felt may cause a problem with sensitivity...that I can see.

The pads, as I made them, do little for sensitivity; i.e. they don't affect it.

I've had a number of requests again for making pads for people, and someone even posted a poll regarding the idea (which was then closed), so I put up my own poll. Please weigh in!

Thanks again for all the support!

Take Poll Here (http://generationgamerz.com/v2/component/option,com_pollxt/task,voting/pollid,13/Itemid,1/)

*Sorry, but you'll have to register for the site to vote.*


Yes, it is quick and simple, but apparently some people wanted me to make them. If I get a good response, I will.

In the meantime, I hope they are working well for you.

It's working fantasticaly, should get my final piece of felt this afternoon. I fudged up one of the pieces. But yeah, they look great and work fantastically.
http://www.mashedbuttons.com/images/drum_pads.jpg

Sport
11-30-2007, 06:16 AM
Has anyone tried this mod with a thin layer of gum rubber instead of the foam? I feel like the foam would kill the little rebound the drums have at all, and gum rubber is the stuff most commonly used for drum practice pads like realfeel or whatever.

CigDangle
11-30-2007, 06:18 AM
Has anyone tried this mod with a thin layer of gum rubber instead of the foam? I feel like the foam would kill the little rebound the drums have at all, and gum rubber is the stuff most commonly used for drum practice pads like realfeel or whatever.

No, but I would be really interested as to how well this would work. Please post your results!

SoulScreme
11-30-2007, 06:30 AM
Has anyone tried this mod with a thin layer of gum rubber instead of the foam? I feel like the foam would kill the little rebound the drums have at all, and gum rubber is the stuff most commonly used for drum practice pads like realfeel or whatever.

Well, you can give it a shot, however the rebound is perfectly in tact with the foam.

AVC808
11-30-2007, 07:24 AM
If you guys have a Super Wal Mart nearby (which I think pretty much everyone does these days lol), that's where I found all the needed supplies. ;)

thanks for the tip, i'll probably take a look tonight since theyre open 24-7 :)
did you find these in a craft section?

dxduece
11-30-2007, 07:29 AM
did you find these in a craft section?


Yessir, in the arts and crafts section.

Sport
11-30-2007, 08:25 AM
I'd try it, but i'm still waiting for the ps2 release. I'll let you know how it works in a month. :)

SoulScreme
11-30-2007, 08:28 AM
I'd try it, but i'm still waiting for the ps2 release. I'll let you know how it works in a month. :)

Man, if you aren't a kid and have a job, it's time to upgrade brother.

alexnyc
11-30-2007, 08:52 AM
Thanks for the inspiration. I went out and got the foam and felt, but luckily I know of a foam and rubber shop not too far away from me, and also picked up a sheet of neoprene (mouse pad material) about 1/4 inch thick. I cut circles from all materials and auditioned them on the pads before I stuck them on. The neoprene was WAY quieter than anything else and made the foam/felt combination seem very loud in comparison. I stuck the pads on with spray mount sprayed on the backs of the neoprene, and it should be compltely non permanent. (they fell off a couple of times and I had to re-apply the adhesive) If you want to take them off for warranty purposes, any adhesive left on the pads should clean off with rubbing alcohol. The drums are now much more quiet, fun, and the rebound feels much better as well.

Symbiosis
11-30-2007, 11:12 AM
That rubber is actually not the same thing as the foam that the OP suggests, although I don't see why it can't work as well or better

Yeah, I know. But I was just going for convenience of buying at the same site. It was the closest I could find on there.

SoulScreme
11-30-2007, 05:23 PM
Got my last piece of felt, these things are friggin sweet. And mine don't even look like a twister mat. ;)
http://www.mashedbuttons.com/images/drum_pad_mod.jpg
And yes, that is a Sega Master System to the left of the drums, I'm hardcore/nerdy like that.

xCHRISx
11-30-2007, 07:45 PM
Your drums look sweet Soul, but you're in need of some serious cable management! Haha..

Black_Heaven
11-30-2007, 10:28 PM
Your drums look sweet Soul, but you're in need of some serious cable management! Haha..

Yeah man, I was just about to say you got a hell of a snake pit going on there.

topperharley
12-01-2007, 12:51 AM
A question for the OP, and a suggestion for people who don't want to spend $15-20 on a cutter they will only use once.

The foam I got at Michaels is "Darice Foamies" and it is 2mm thick. Is that too thick? That was the thinnest I could find.

If you look through all of the plates, bowls, and tupperware containers in your cupboards, you'll probably find something that is just the right size to fit the drumheads. Then you just have to cut the circles with scissors.

mrloofer
12-01-2007, 02:25 AM
I bet you can just buy some tracing paper and trace the drum head with a pencil then cut with scissors.

Black_Heaven
12-01-2007, 02:36 AM
Here's a pic of mine.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/CountMonteCarlo/Rock%20Band/100_6878.jpg

TreoRock_
12-01-2007, 03:26 AM
It seems l ike a good idea for a business. Why buy all these things and spent all the time doing it, when somebody could do this for you and sell it online. Anybody thinking about making some money and selling these pads ready to be applied???

Al

SoulScreme
12-01-2007, 04:47 AM
Here's a pic of mine.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/CountMonteCarlo/Rock%20Band/100_6878.jpg

did you also mod the peddle?

Black_Heaven
12-01-2007, 04:49 AM
No, I just took out one of the support pipes so I could move the kick pedal further forward. Doesn't affect it's sturdiness at all though.

SoulScreme
12-01-2007, 06:21 AM
No, I just took out one of the support pipes so I could move the kick pedal further forward. Doesn't affect it's sturdiness at all though.

Yours are pretty sweet, though, could have been a bit smaller, can barely see the color rings.

AVC808
12-01-2007, 08:16 AM
Yessir, in the arts and crafts section.
bummer, my local superwalmart had a crappy crafts section. they basically had the same stuff as the other craft store i checked. in fact the walmart didnt have any type of adhesive felt. if anyone can trace an online retailer that sells the exact materials the OP used that would be great.

AVC808
12-01-2007, 08:17 AM
Yours are pretty sweet, though, could have been a bit smaller, can barely see the color rings.

if i could do mines, id do them all black like yours, but id cover up the color rings. i actually have colored electrical tape. i would stick a tiny strip on the top of the rim so rookies know which pad to hit.

digbeta
12-01-2007, 12:23 PM
Here's my take on the drum mod. My wife had the idea after seeing the colors from the original mod. Now if I could just get her to actually play...

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p56/digbeta/Picture001.jpg

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p56/digbeta/Picture002.jpg

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p56/digbeta/Picture003.jpg

xCHRISx
12-01-2007, 12:32 PM
Quick question for you guys that have done the mod already. At Michael's they had two types of adhesive felt; stiffer sheets and floppy fabric-y ones. Which works better? I figured the stiff ones, so I bought 4 of those, but I got one sheet of the floppy one to try, since I have extra foam rubber left, since they didn't sell them individually, only in 12 packs.

That said, I'm going to have enough material left over to make a second set, if someone doesn't have the materials locally and wants to maybe give me a little donation towards the stupid circle cutter, I can mail out a set to you next week. I'm never going to have a use for the foam or felt again, so I may as well help someone else out.

I'll post a pic of my mod job when my drums arrive next week. My girlfriend will be doing the actual mod, she's very crafty haha..

Electric_Zen
12-01-2007, 01:17 PM
xCHRISx, I used the stiff felt, and from the pictures it looks like most everyone else did, too. If nothing else, the stiff stuff is going to be easier to use with the circle cutter.

digbeta, you understand what the next step is now. You are going to have to make your band members look like the superheros. One dude already created a Spider-man with the tat maker.

xCHRISx
12-01-2007, 01:26 PM
Thanks Zen, I figured the stiff felt would be best but just wanted to doublecheck before cutting. You're actually on my 360 friend's list, btw. I'm xOFFSETx.. Small world!

TheWabbit
12-01-2007, 02:00 PM
My drums:

http://bp2.blogger.com/_wSkaOXvJ44A/R1Isr94zB5I/AAAAAAAAAAM/i8cokH3wBjc/s320/drums.jpg

The wife wanted the color to show because she still needs them. Took me about an hour to do. I'm pretty happy with the results.

Black_Heaven
12-01-2007, 02:25 PM
dugbeta, may I just say that yours is just brilliant. Very nice way to make a custom images for each pad yet still retain the coordinated colors of each pad. This has me thinking what would be the Marvel equivalent.

xCHRISx, I used the flimsy style that was in the baggy. I chose it myself because it felt softer than the stiff felt. The stiff felt actually felt quite rough to me.

digbeta
12-01-2007, 09:46 PM
Yeah, I thought later that I could've put a spider on the red pad and so on. The wife was thinking that we should make more pads and then sell them but then she realized that DC may take offense to not getting a cut.

The symbols are placed on top of the pad felt. I almost cut them into the pad felt but I was getting pretty tired at that point of cutting everything out free hand with a utility knife so maybe for v.2.

Aphex
12-02-2007, 02:41 PM
Just wanted to say that I also did this mod, actually signed up for these boards because of this mod. I haven't had a chance to play with the drums yet since doing it but just test hitting I could tell the difference. This thread NEEDS to be stickied as it is probably one of the most useful things from the entire Rock Band forums. Hope you get around to that kick pedal mod soon Cig. Thanks for sharing this!

masterx1918
12-02-2007, 03:17 PM
Well I looked in my closet, and managed to find 4 foam pads. Don't ask why I have 4 foam pads (my house is pretty much and Arts and Crafts store). Anyways I cut them and put them on my drums and I was astonished by how much they reduce the sound by. It's amazing.

BunnyShoopShoop
12-02-2007, 04:20 PM
Hey Guys..
I made some extra sets that I am willing to sell off if anyone cant make their own and wants to buy a set.

They are designed just like the original design that CigDangle came up with with the 4 different color pads.

Just send me a PM or e-mail me at woochie1700@austin.rr.com

thanks,
BunnyShoopShoop

TreoRock_
12-02-2007, 08:28 PM
Hey Guys..
I made some extra sets that I am willing to sell off if anyone cant make their own and wants to buy a set.

They are designed just like the original design that CigDangle came up with with the 4 different color pads.

Just send me a PM or e-mail me at woochie1700@austin.rr.com

thanks,
BunnyShoopShoop

Do you have a picture of them? How much are you selling them for with shipping to California? PM me

Al

topperharley
12-03-2007, 12:49 AM
I modded my drums this weekend and it helps a lot. I found I have to hit them a little more forcefully, but even so it's a lot quieter. The best part is the dampening of the CLACK CLACK of the drumsticks on the unmodded pads. With the foam, it's a muffled thud, so you can hear the in game drums a lot better.

To the OP, you are a genius. Okay, maybe I'm exaggerating a little bit, but many thanks for sharing such a great solution! :)

AMartin56
12-03-2007, 12:55 AM
Someone also commented on rubber tips for the sticks. You can buy rubber tubing at Home Depot (looks like surgical tubing) and slip it over the tips after cutting off a short piece of it.

okonomiyakiz
12-03-2007, 04:19 AM
Finally got around to taking some rather nasty pictures of my drums and my guitar button mod. I really recommend using the scrap foamies on the guitar if you have issues with sweaty fingers like me!

:D

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j219/m3sport/drums1.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j219/m3sport/drums2.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j219/m3sport/guitar1.jpg

Tragic_H3R0
12-03-2007, 06:42 AM
Well, I finally got around to getting this mod done. I bought a circle cutter and black felt. I was going to get the black felt with glitter, but decided against it. Maybe if I was in a glam band.:D I was only able to find the foam in 2mm thickness. I don't know if this is what the OP used, but I thought it needed another layer. So, now I have 4mm thickness, and the felt.

This turned out to be the best solution to the clacking of drums. Way to go Cig! You're the man!:D


<img src=http://lh3.google.com/alfredo.lar/R1Rk_-XXm0I/AAAAAAAAASQ/B-s1iBktf5k/IMG_0033.jpg?imgmax=512>

SoulScreme
12-03-2007, 06:47 AM
Well, I finally got around to getting this mod done. I bought a circle cutter and black felt. I was going to get the black felt with glitter, but decided against it. Maybe if I was in a glam band.:D I was only able to find the foam in 2mm thickness. I don't know if this is what the OP used, but I thought it needed another layer. So, now I have 4mm thickness, and the felt.

This turned out to be the best solution to the clacking of drums. Way to go Cig! You're the man!:D


<img src=http://lh3.google.com/alfredo.lar/R1Rk_-XXm0I/AAAAAAAAASQ/B-s1iBktf5k/IMG_0033.jpg?imgmax=512>

LOL... I also totally considered the glitter felt. Roommate put a nix on that.

ThePaska
12-03-2007, 06:49 AM
This is a really great idea to make the drums softer sounding, the one thing that is annoying is hearing constant tapping while I'm in a different room trying to do work. I'm definately going to try this once I get all supplies together.

AVC808
12-03-2007, 06:50 AM
Well, I finally got around to getting this mod done. I bought a circle cutter and black felt. I was going to get the black felt with glitter, but decided against it. Maybe if I was in a glam band.:D I was only able to find the foam in 2mm thickness. I don't know if this is what the OP used, but I thought it needed another layer. So, now I have 4mm thickness, and the felt.

This turned out to be the best solution to the clacking of drums. Way to go Cig! You're the man!:D


<img src=http://lh3.google.com/alfredo.lar/R1Rk_-XXm0I/AAAAAAAAASQ/B-s1iBktf5k/IMG_0033.jpg?imgmax=512>

very nice. i want to go black felt too, but i cant even find the foamies with the adhesive backing. im also wondering what thickness works best. i saw 2mm, 4mm, 6mm. obviously 2mm might do nothing to dampen the sound, while 6mm may absorb too much shock and mess up the sensitivity/responsiveness. id like to know what is working out for everyone.

SoulScreme
12-03-2007, 06:52 AM
very nice. i want to go black felt too, but i cant even find the foamies with the adhesive backing. im also wondering what thickness works best. i saw 2mm, 4mm, 6mm. obviously 2mm might do nothing to dampen the sound, while 6mm may absorb too much shock and mess up the sensitivity/responsiveness. id like to know what is working out for everyone.

2mm works juuuuuuuuuust fine.

topperharley
12-03-2007, 06:56 AM
2mm works juuuuuuuuuust fine.

Agreed. I would worry that anything thicker would affect the responsiveness of the drumpads. As it was, the 2mm seemed too thick when I was cutting out the circles.

AVC808
12-03-2007, 07:02 AM
2mm it is then, thanks for the input. now if i could only find the sticky back foamies. all i can find are the plain ones. should i try double stick tape, or keep looking for the right one?

SoulScreme
12-03-2007, 07:05 AM
2mm it is then, thanks for the input. now if i could only find the sticky back foamies. all i can find are the plain ones. should i try double stick tape, or keep looking for the right one?

Keep looking, if you really have trouble I bought a 12 pack and have extras. I'd be willing to sell them to you for a decent price.

AVC808
12-03-2007, 07:13 AM
Keep looking, if you really have trouble I bought a 12 pack and have extras. I'd be willing to sell them to you for a decent price.

i'll check two other craft stores here, and if they dont have them I'll shoot you a PM. i cant remember, but were you the one that made a mistake? id actually have to ask you to buy a new pack of 12 if willing cuz i need enough for a 2nd set for a friend.

SoulScreme
12-03-2007, 07:15 AM
i'll check two other craft stores here, and if they dont have them I'll shoot you a PM. i cant remember, but were you the one that made a mistake? id actually have to ask you to buy a new pack of 12 if willing cuz i need enough for a 2nd set for a friend.

Yeah, I had made a mistake. And I could totally do that for ya.

Taintsaw
12-03-2007, 09:49 AM
I know a couple had mentioned about selling/buying them. I did this mod today and it works awesome, played through 10 songs with it already, so much better!

So I have 3 sets for sale, 1 is the four color set, and 2 are the black felt ones.

Check out the forum link
http://community.rockband.com/vbforum/showthread.php?p=167956#post167956

for more information!

- Taintsaw

Comedian
12-04-2007, 12:46 AM
Did this last night and it works great! Thanks for the amazing writeup and directions!

The only trouble ended up being the circle cutter - as other people have found mine was not quite deep enough to cut through the whole pad and backing. But once the circle was made it was easy to hold the sheet up and let it bend back, then run a razor blade over the spread seams to cut the rest away.

I was worried I'd lose sensativity on the pads, but that doesn't seem to be the case. I'm just starting on the drums, but I'm still able to do a fast roll on the pads with constant notes registering in the game. Not once last night did it miss a note I felt I hit correctly. We'll see how it holds up over time.

Thrashdragon
12-04-2007, 01:30 AM
I also did this mod last night. I was able to find the adhesive foam and adhesive rubber at Walmart, but no circle cutter. I used scissors after tracing around a bowl with pencil, and while it's not quite as perfectly clean as it would have been with a circle cutter, it still looks good.

It does keep the noise down quite a bit. I have noticed that on sections with a lot of repetitive notes, it loses some of its sound damping qualities, probably due to the rubber/felt not having time to reform in between hits.

I am going to try getting some rubber tips which, combined with the pad mod, should quiet it even more.

Still, it's definitely worth doing, especially considering the low cost and that it takes less than 30 minutes. Plus, my fiance was amazed that I actually A: Went into the craft section of a store, B: Found what I was looking for, and C: Made it work. You do get a lot of odd looks from the little old ladies perusing the crafts section, especially when you have hair halfway down your back and a four inch goat. :D

LoneBal
12-04-2007, 03:31 AM
Just wanted to keep this thread towards the top. It definitely worked well for me, and apparently a lot of other people too. Now, if you could get that bass pedal mod out, we would greatly be in your debt.

I haven't heard any complaints yet, but I am on the 2nd floor as well. Luckily, the old couple downstairs seems to go to sleep early, and my living room floor is nowhere near they're bedroom ceiling.

Black_Heaven
12-04-2007, 04:31 AM
...You do get a lot of odd looks from the little old ladies perusing the crafts section, especially when you have hair halfway down your back and a four inch goat. :D

Yes you do, add a leather trench to that and it just amplifies it.

Jixzer
12-04-2007, 04:38 AM
Well, I already posted this in another thread, but here are my drums using mousepads and adhesive felt...again. :)

http://www.redztread.com/rockband/drums.jpg

CowboyGP
12-04-2007, 05:42 AM
I'll definitely be giving this a try! What a great idea. However, noise from the pads themselves isn't my main issue. I use headphones most of the time, so I'm usually blissfully unaware of the annoying 'tap tap tap'. My problem is that my daughter's bedroom is right below mine, and the sound travels down the legs of the 'kit and through the floor. Apparently you can hear it quite well downstairs.

I've been trying to think of an affordable way to isolate the legs of the 'kit from the floor. Short of a heavy-duty (and high dollar) rubber mat, I haven't come up with anything.

Does anyone have any suggestions?

CowboyGP
12-04-2007, 05:57 AM
No, I just took out one of the support pipes so I could move the kick pedal further forward. Doesn't affect it's sturdiness at all though.

ANOTHER mod I'm going to try! I've been wishing I could move the pedal forward. Didn't even occur to me to remove the first bar. Good one!

ClifG
12-04-2007, 07:13 AM
I'll definitely be giving this a try! What a great idea. However, noise from the pads themselves isn't my main issue. I use headphones most of the time, so I'm usually blissfully unaware of the annoying 'tap tap tap'. My problem is that my daughter's bedroom is right below mine, and the sound travels down the legs of the 'kit and through the floor. Apparently you can hear it quite well downstairs.

I've been trying to think of an affordable way to isolate the legs of the 'kit from the floor. Short of a heavy-duty (and high dollar) rubber mat, I haven't come up with anything.

Does anyone have any suggestions?

Same here. I made the foam/felt pads and that was pretty good for my own benefit, but I had my downstairs neighbor listen to me hit the drums with/without the pads for comparison, and as it turns out even without the foam on them, the red and green drums sound like nothing downstairs. However, the blue and yellow (the two right above the support) sound very loud no matter what I put on them.

So the two center drums (and pedal I'd assum) transmit a lot of sound through the floor. I saw somewhere that somebody was going to build a platform kind of like this: http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Auralex-Great-GRAMMA-Speaker-Isolation-Riser?sku=422033

Not sure if it actually got made or how it worked, though. Because of the foot pedal, you'd basically have to make a platform large enough for the drums and your stool for it to really be comfortable.

CigDangle
12-05-2007, 03:25 AM
I came up with some new mods to quiet the bass pedal and the drum kit as a whole. You can find it all in this post:

http://community.rockband.com/vbforum/showthread.php?t=13539

SoulScreme
12-05-2007, 03:27 AM
Man, talk about odd. Twice in two months I have been a 24 year old guy in Michael's. First, my buddy at work needed a hot glue gun. That wasn't so bad, spent most of the time out front smoking or right in the front the store. Got much stranger reactions from the employees as me and my roommate perused the children's section of the store looking "sticky foam." Yeah, it was a trip.

LoneBal
12-05-2007, 03:39 AM
Yep, I think I was the only male over 6 years old in Michael's the day I went. Well, at least with the new pedal mod, you can go into a manly store. Home Depot, Lowes, or Menard's.

Electric_Zen
12-05-2007, 03:44 AM
Lowe's is not manly.

LoneBal
12-05-2007, 03:51 AM
It's got tools and lumber, good enough. And a lot more so than Michael's

mdouet
12-05-2007, 04:40 AM
Well, I already posted this in another thread, but here are my drums using mousepads and adhesive felt...again. :)

http://www.redztread.com/rockband/drums.jpg

I'm working on this exact mod, so far I have the mousepads rubber cemented to my drum pads, just need to add the felt. So far I have noticed a dramatic improvement in sound!

stevea1210
12-05-2007, 10:24 AM
I went and got my supplies from Michaels after work today. The sticky foam 12 pack is on sale now.
regular 7.99
sale price 4.99

quieter drums just got even cheaper :)

thanks CigDangle

xCHRISx
12-05-2007, 11:09 AM
Yeah, the foam is definitely on sale. Apparently if you can pick up a Michaels flyer (in Canada at least) there is a coupon for 40% off one item. Would make the circle cutter much cheaper! I wish I hadn't already bought mine :(

AVC808
12-05-2007, 11:15 AM
i just find it amusing that rockers have suddenly become grandma-types...savvy shoppers looking for craft supply deals :D

Jixzer
12-05-2007, 11:43 AM
i just find it amusing that rockers have suddenly become grandma-types...savvy shoppers looking for craft supply deals :D
Maybe so, but hey, whatever helps me play those drums without waking up the kids....I'm down. :)

MrE
12-08-2007, 04:42 AM
Here are a couple pics of my Drum Pads. I decided to use the Staples Mouse Pads w/ double sided sticky paper to attach them to Drum Pads. Then I put Felt on top of the mouse pads. Then Electrical Tape around the felt and original plastic surrounding the drum pads. Then I put the colored foam around the edges to hide where the electrical tape and felt meet. I must say this has made a HUGE difference in sound. I don't have to wear the headphones anymore :D

Apologies for the crappy pics. Had to use iPhone camera.

http://www.justrewind.com/rb/rb_set.png
http://www.justrewind.com/rb/rb_drums.png

Sentouki
12-08-2007, 08:11 AM
That looks sick

MrE
12-08-2007, 08:17 AM
That looks sick

thanx :D
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Fallen Phoenixx
12-13-2007, 04:36 PM
Well, I finally got around to getting this mod done. I bought a circle cutter and black felt. I was going to get the black felt with glitter, but decided against it. Maybe if I was in a glam band.:D I was only able to find the foam in 2mm thickness. I don't know if this is what the OP used, but I thought it needed another layer. So, now I have 4mm thickness, and the felt.

This turned out to be the best solution to the clacking of drums. Way to go Cig! You're the man!:D


<img src=http://lh3.google.com/alfredo.lar/R1Rk_-XXm0I/AAAAAAAAASQ/B-s1iBktf5k/IMG_0033.jpg?imgmax=512>

How is the sensitivity and sound of two foam pads with the felt as oppossed to just one foam pad with the felt? I am set to do the mod, and want it as quiet as possible, so I don't wake up my wife, but I don't want to lose too much sensitivity. Anyone else tried two foams with their felt?