View Full Version : This is the general forum is it not?
DethBoxx
01-10-2009, 03:57 AM
How is it possible to be off topic here?
As long as you follow the rules outlined in HMXSeans post, why close threads here? I would ask in the actual threads...but of course they are closed...and PMs don't work unless you are a friend.
So, what's the deal?
DethBoxx
01-10-2009, 03:59 AM
For example: http://www.rockband.com/forums/showthread.php?t=113490
*sigh*
If you really have nothing better to do than this, that's pretty sad.
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It is sad actually...I usually don't post this much but I'm very sick today and can't really do anything. However, that thread was not spam and IMO no more banal than half of the posts in General so I think I must be missing something here.
Gowienczyk
01-10-2009, 04:01 AM
I'm quite curious why PM's are friends only; that has to be the dumbest feature a forum has ever had; and I've run/frequented so many of them!
a21schizoidman
01-10-2009, 04:01 AM
probably because it didn't lead to any conversation or anything, but could be considered spam to rack up peoples' post counts
a21schizoidman
01-10-2009, 04:02 AM
I'm quite curious why PM's are friends only; that has to be the dumbest feature a forum has ever had; and I've run/frequented so many of them!
it didn't use to be that way, not until the updates
DethBoxx
01-10-2009, 04:03 AM
probably because it didn't lead to any conversation or anything, but could be considered spam to rack up peoples' post counts
It's no worse than Take One Leave One or many other threads here.
If someone doesn't like it they don't have to read/participate/lock it.
a21schizoidman
01-10-2009, 04:04 AM
It's no worse than Take One Leave One or many other threads here.
If someone doesn't like it they don't have to read/participate/lock it.
yeah, that is true, but i dont think they like 1 word responses for an entire thread
DethBoxx
01-10-2009, 04:06 AM
This or That Game
Word Association
I could probably list a lot more.
BuRn7 CaK3
01-10-2009, 04:06 AM
You may not think it was spam.. but reading it... it was a pretty pointless thread. If this forum was like GameDamage's forum, they should create a "The Tard Farm" on here.
The Tard Farm: Consists of Complete uderly pointless crap... The only things you cannot post are "Porn (including the grossout kind) and Threats of violence or destruction against members, mods, or the site." That's it. The forum also doesn't raise your post count. And the best part of it, it's unmoderated. well it is technically to watch for the stuff above... but that's it.
the things you could do:
Here's a short and non-comprehensive list of things that are permitted in the Tard Farm:
Racism
Sexism
Trolling
Flaming
Outright Stupidity
Crossdressing
Mum jokes
Funny Pictures
Juvenile humour
Pictures from 4chan that aren't anywhere that funny
Bad Spelling
Inappropriate sexual suggestions
Overused Memes
Sexual Content
Adult Themes
Dead baby jokes
Cybersex
Pop Culture References
Valuable and informed opinions (rare and not recommended)
Movie Spoilers
Rickrolls
Recipe ideas
DethBoxx
01-10-2009, 04:07 AM
You may not think it was spam.. but reading it... it was a pretty pointless thread.
As I already pointed out there are tons of them here.
Apparently that's what the General Forum is for.
It would be harder to list the threads that aren't pointless here.
BuRn7 CaK3
01-10-2009, 04:09 AM
As I already pointed out there are tons of them here.
Apparently that's what the General Forum is for.
It would be harder to list the threads that aren't pointless here.
like i said, you don't think it was. But it really was. Sorry.
DethBoxx
01-10-2009, 04:10 AM
like i said, you don't think it was. But it really was. Sorry.
OK that's fine. I've already addressed this. There are countless unlocked threads that are no different.
hawkofva
01-10-2009, 04:11 AM
It depends on the thread really. If the conversation strays from the topic, well then it's off topic. If your thread has no topic, that's spam. If you had outlined some kind of rules or something or some kind of game for your other one, it probably wouldn't have gotten locked, but as is had even less point than the games threads. Come to think of it, your thread was pretty much just a duplicate of the Word Association thing, so if you really felt the need to post random words, they have a place for that.
Keep it clean and such.
DethBoxx
01-10-2009, 04:12 AM
It wasn't a duplicate of the word association thread.
And threads can be just for people to talk to each other.
This is the General forum, that's all that is here anyway.
SPAM is someone trying to sell something.
BuRn7 CaK3
01-10-2009, 04:12 AM
OK that's fine. I've already addressed this. There are countless unlocked threads that are no different.
What's Not spam about creating a topic that has just one word in it? EVERYTHING. it's pointless. It deserved to get locked.
like which was stated above... it was pretty much a duplicate of the Word Association Game.
Gowienczyk
01-10-2009, 04:13 AM
It wasn't a duplicate of the word association thread.
And threads can be just for people to talk to each other.
This is the General forum, that's all that is here anyway.
SPAM is someone trying to sell something.
Not on the realm of forums!
DethBoxx
01-10-2009, 04:14 AM
What's Not spam about creating a topic that has just one word in it? EVERYTHING. it's pointless. It deserved to get locked.
OK then the word association thread should be locked.
Why are people going in circles?
DethBoxx
01-10-2009, 04:15 AM
Besides that is just one example, here is another one
http://www.rockband.com/forums/showthread.php?t=113164
There is no such thing as 'off topic' there it is just people talking to each other.
DethBoxx
01-10-2009, 04:18 AM
Not on the realm of forums!
Actually, read HMXSeans definition
No spam. No one likes spam. No one is going to buy your 1/2 price pharmaceuticals, your opinions on penny stock garbage, or your inane spam poetry of random words. First of all it isn't rock, second of all it is the worst possible way to advertise to a person. This is an immediate permanent ban and we will forward your weird foreign IP to the appropriate parties. We may also have a party at your house when you aren't there and break your stuff.
He's clearly referring to people trying to advertise and post links to their shiz.
hawkofva
01-10-2009, 04:18 AM
There is no such thing as 'off topic' there it is just people talking to each other.
Actually, we have a thread (http://www.rockband.com/forums/showthread.php?t=84283) for that. And the thread you linked to did have a topic: Rude Online Forums. About which nothing had been said for about 30 posts; in fact it had devolved into a rather vulgar discussion of different tastes in music.
DethBoxx
01-10-2009, 04:19 AM
Oh come on now.
BuRn7 CaK3
01-10-2009, 04:19 AM
OK then the word association thread should be locked.
Why are people going in circles?
No it doesn't. The Word Association game actually has a point.
Creating a Thread with the Thread Titled "Thread" and the post only saying "Buttons" is spam. That's it. Obviously you don't know what it actually is.
DethBoxx
01-10-2009, 04:21 AM
Well I don't care that much, but I may not be inclined to post in the General forum anymore given the strange standards. Whatever, yeah I know nobody cares.
DethBoxx
01-10-2009, 04:21 AM
No it doesn't. The Word Association game actually has a point.
Creating a Thread with the Thread Titled "Thread" and the post only saying "Buttons" is spam. That's it. Obviously you don't know what it actually is.
That is just your opinion, and yes I know very well.
Alright_Computer
01-10-2009, 04:22 AM
I'm quite curious why PM's are friends only; that has to be the dumbest feature a forum has ever had; and I've run/frequented so many of them!
Actually, you can set it so that you accept PM's from everyone, not just friends. It's in your profile options I believe. I'd recommend it.
hawkofva
01-10-2009, 04:23 AM
Spam is basically anything who's sole purpose is to have no purpose other than taking up space. This is derived from the food (and I use the term loosely) product "spam", which consists mostly of what could be called "filler", or all the leftover bits and pieces of the slaughtered animals it's made from.
BuRn7 CaK3
01-10-2009, 04:24 AM
That is just your opinion, and yes I know very well.
No it's not. :mad:
it was a complete pointless thread that deserved to not even exist. And trust me, i've seen worse posts that that. Not on here of course, on the GD forums. (Game Damage... not Green Day)
DethBoxx
01-10-2009, 04:24 AM
Actually, you can set it so that you accept PM's from everyone, not just friends. It's in your profile options I believe. I'd recommend it.
Oh really? That must be new, it wasn't there last time I looked.
Gowienczyk
01-10-2009, 04:25 AM
Actually, we have a thread (http://www.rockband.com/forums/showthread.php?t=84283) for that. And the thread you linked to did have a topic: Rude Online Forums. About which nothing had been said for about 30 posts; in fact it had devolved into a rather vulgar discussion of different tastes in music.
Which had calmed down and nothing "vulgar" had been said in the last 5 posts.
BuRn7 CaK3
01-10-2009, 04:25 AM
Spam is basically anything who's sole purpose is to have no purpose other than taking up space. This is derived from the food (and I use the term loosely) product "spam", which consists mostly of what could be called "filler", or all the leftover bits and pieces of the slaughtered animals it's made from.
Exactly. Check out #4 @ http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Spam
DethBoxx
01-10-2009, 04:25 AM
No it's not. :mad:
it was a complete pointless thread that deserved to not even exist. And trust me, i've seen worse posts that that. Not on here of course, on the GD forums. (Game Damage... not Green Day)
We're going in circles again....this subforum is the haven for pointless threads.
BuRn7 CaK3
01-10-2009, 04:28 AM
We're going in circles again....this subforum is the haven for pointless threads.
Yet Again, No it's not. This Forum (http://www.gamedamage.net/forum/index.php?showforum=3) is the haven for pointless threads
hawkofva
01-10-2009, 04:28 AM
Which had calmed down and nothing "vulgar" had been said in the last 5 posts.
Sorry, I tend to judge entire pages at a time, and most of what I read on that page (I have 40 posts per page set) led me to that conclusion. Regardless, it was still way off topic.
We're going in circles again....this subforum is the haven for pointless threads.
No, this is the subforum for threads not necessarily about Rock Band or Music in general. Threads still need topics.
Gowienczyk
01-10-2009, 04:30 AM
Sorry, I tend to judge entire pages at a time, and most of what I read on that page (I have 40 posts per page set) led me to that conclusion. Regardless, it was still way off topic.
How so? It was relative on how forums can be rude.
hawkofva
01-10-2009, 04:33 AM
How so? It was relative on how forums can be rude.
I admit I missed a few pages, so I'm sure the shift made sense, but the last page of that thread was almost entirely about whether people liked Fall Out Boy or not.
I've got packing to do, see you all around!
DethBoxx
01-10-2009, 04:35 AM
Yet Again, No it's not.
LOL is this the argument clinic? Have you looked thru the general forum here? Mostly pointless.
BuRn7 CaK3
01-10-2009, 04:36 AM
LOL is this the argument clinic? Have you looked thru the general forum here? Mostly pointless.
Why don't you check that link i posted... then come back here and tell me what is exactly pointless. Right now, the only one i can actually think of is the "Thread" Thread. oh wait... that's by you.
DethBoxx
01-10-2009, 04:37 AM
Well no point arguing with you guys, and maybe you are right.
I'm just interested to hear what the 'official' word is, since this
subject is not addressed in THE RULES at the top of the forum.
DethBoxx
01-10-2009, 04:38 AM
Why don't you check that link i posted... then come back here and tell me what is exactly pointless. Right now, the only one i can actually think of is the "Thread" Thread. oh wait... that's by you.
I have no interest in clicking the link, I have seen enough crappy forums in my day.
Pointless is subjective. IMO my thread was no more pointless than many of the posts in General. Disagree if you want.
Hopefully I will get better soon and get my real life back and you won't have to see me here as much. Won't that be grand?
BuRn7 CaK3
01-10-2009, 04:40 AM
I have no interest in clicking the link, I have seen enough crappy forums in my day.
Then you have no room to talk. kthnxbi
DethBoxx
01-10-2009, 04:42 AM
Then you have no room to talk. kthnxbi
I have all the room in the world to talk. I don't need to see your example, I already have seen GameFaqs, Harmony Central... god do I need to go on? What is your point exactly?
BuRn7 CaK3
01-10-2009, 04:43 AM
I have all the room in the world to talk. I don't need to see your example, I already have seen GameFaqs, Harmony Central... god do I need to go on? What is your point exactly?
Your Thread was 100000% Pointless. Your Thread Got what it Deserved when you decided to make it.
DethBoxx
01-10-2009, 04:45 AM
Your posts in this thread are equally pointless.
A link to a crappy forum proves nothing about my thread, and does not clarify any of the polices here.
And yes my thread was 'pointless' ... why shouldn't I be able
to create a pointless thread when there are so many others.
That's rhetorical, please don't answer.
BuRn7 CaK3
01-10-2009, 04:49 AM
Your posts in this thread are equally pointless.
A link to a crappy forum proves nothing about my thread, and does not clarify any of the polices here.
And yes my thread was 'pointless' ... why shouldn't I be able
to create a pointless thread when there are so many others.
That's rhetorical, please don't answer.
You're Pointless.
My posts in this thread are not pointless because this thread actually kinda sorta has a topic.
DethBoxx
01-10-2009, 04:51 AM
Wow this thread got a lot shorter all of a sudden.
DethBoxx
01-10-2009, 05:25 AM
Actually, you can set it so that you accept PM's from everyone, not just friends. It's in your profile options I believe. I'd recommend it.
I found that and set it, but Compose Message only has a drop down of friends for 'Recipient'.....any idea how to send a PM to a non-friend?
Incidentally, I guess the upshot of this thread is that the Genral forum is not what I thought it was, even though it looks to me like it is what I thought it was.
hawkofva
01-10-2009, 05:45 AM
Things are a great deal more relaxed here; so long as you don't wander too far from the topic (and the thread actually has a topic), things tend to stay open. Barring the obvious ban on politics, naturally.
Daesania
01-10-2009, 05:47 AM
For the most part, conversational off topic threads dont stay long (IE: "OMG HI") and that's the content of the post. There actually was another link besides sean's post that had a more comprehensive list of rules - however the link is currently broken and its on the list to be fixed. Overall, its up to moderator choice to lock a thread. We typically do not delete threads unless they are pretty bad.
Game threads, we really dont mind. A lot of people like them, so why not. I personally dont like Meleeman's incessant poll threads about weezer, but whatever, I leave them open for the most part.
DethBoxx
01-10-2009, 05:50 AM
Thanks Daesania.
I guess I sort of considered my thread a game thread where the rules are not explicitly stated, but I guess that's frowned upon.
Daesania
01-10-2009, 05:51 AM
I'm not sure which thread you're speaking of, but if a mod locked it, then I'm sure they had their reason for it. I cant speak for them though.
hawkofva
01-10-2009, 05:52 AM
Thanks Daesania.
I guess I sort of considered my thread a game thread where the rules are not explicitly stated, but I guess that's frowned upon.
That does tend to come off as spam, yes. :D
Try making a game one, see where it gets you. Might end up with the next huge-ass thread on this forum.
Gowienczyk
01-10-2009, 05:54 AM
I admit I missed a few pages, so I'm sure the shift made sense, but the last page of that thread was almost entirely about whether people liked Fall Out Boy or not.
I've got packing to do, see you all around!
So side-topics don't happen in threads? Poppycock, I say! Poppycock!
Daesania
01-10-2009, 05:55 AM
I searched your post for your thread, i found it, and I too would have locked it. It didnt look like a "game" thread, just spam. You gotta realize its not personal, but after seeing many threads the same like that filled with spam, you begin to see them all the same. I dont look at poster's names, i look at the content.
DethBoxx
01-10-2009, 05:56 AM
That does tend to come off as spam, yes. :D
Try making a game one, see where it gets you. Might end up with the next huge-ass thread on this forum.
I did try that actually....I think I better not try again.
I wanted the mysteriousness to be part of the game.
hawkofva
01-10-2009, 05:58 AM
I did try that actually....I think I better not try again.
I wanted the mysteriousness to be part of the game.
Look on the bright side, it sparked this wonderful little conversation to keep you from being bored to tears!
DethBoxx
01-10-2009, 05:59 AM
I searched your post for your thread, i found it, and I too would have locked it. It didnt look like a "game" thread, just spam. You gotta realize its not personal, but after seeing many threads the same like that filled with spam, you begin to see them all the same. I dont look at poster's names, i look at the content.
To me spam is trying to sell something, which Sean's post also states.
I haven't read the other link that is broken though.
To me the word association game is similar.
I normally don't post in these kinds of things anyway.
I'm just sick today and super super bored ;)
DethBoxx
01-10-2009, 06:00 AM
Look on the bright side, it sparked this wonderful little conversation to keep you from being bored to tears!
That is true, and I actually do appreciate the elucidation.
hawkofva
01-10-2009, 06:01 AM
I normally don't post in these kinds of things anyway.
I'm just sick today and super super bored ;)
Last time I was sick I passed the time with Slime Volleyball (Google it if you don't know it already), Inkball (some default game on my laptop), and the Ghost Recon novel.
Daesania
01-10-2009, 06:02 AM
To me spam is trying to sell something, which Sean's post also states.
I haven't read the other link that is broken though.
To me the word association game is exactly the same.
I normally don't post in these kinds of things anyway.
I'm just sick today and super super bored ;)
Spam is not necessarily just trying to sell crap, spam is also useless posts filled with no conversational value.
DethBoxx
01-10-2009, 06:04 AM
Last time I was sick I passed the time with Slime Volleyball (Google it if you don't know it already), Inkball (some default game on my laptop), and the Ghost Recon novel.
Unfortunately I can't focus long enough to play a game right now :(
DethBoxx
01-10-2009, 06:08 AM
Spam is not necessarily just trying to sell crap, spam is also useless posts filled with no conversational value.
Fair enough, but if nobody participated it would have just dropped right off the board, with no need to be locked, right?
Counter-argument: yeah but is that really what you want this forum to be like?
Oh hey now I'm having a discussion with myself, I'm really losing it. :o
hawkofva
01-10-2009, 06:11 AM
Unfortunately I can't focus long enough to play a game right now :(
A sick day for me tends to involve immobility and weak painkillers, so I find it really easy to focus. Though the games get boring after so long, that's where the book comes in. Clancy franchises tend to be fast paced enough to keep from getting boring.
DethBoxx
01-10-2009, 06:23 AM
No painkillers here I'm afraid, it's just a nasty virus.
Daesania
01-10-2009, 06:28 AM
Fair enough, but if nobody participated it would have just dropped right off the board, with no need to be locked, right?
Unfortunately that wont be happening. Its ultimately up to mod's decision to leave a thread open or lock it. The official rules (like I said is currently broken right now) state that it is mod discression and mod interpretation of the rules. Anyway, this thread has run its course, you now know why your thread was closed and how things work here. I'm going to close this thread.
sa_nick
01-10-2009, 07:34 AM
As I already pointed out there are tons of them here.
Apparently that's what the General Forum is for.
It would be harder to list the threads that aren't pointless here.
Indeed there are a lot of pointless threads. Maybe I'll start closing them down too.
'General' does not mean 'Pointless'. It's a place to talk about stuff like other games, movies, news, art, hobbies... all that stuff. Proper discussions about things not related to RB.
If you wanna talk about random crap just go to mIRC chat room or something.
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