Rock Band: 360 Exclusive <- (untrue, irresponsible title.)

[CoWmAn]

Has a nice ring to it, no? If only it was tru-oh wait...it might be true?!

EAs Rock Band vorerst nur für Xbox 360?

08.07.07 - Das Musikspiel Rock Band (PS3, Xbox 360) von Electronic Arts könnte vielleicht - vorerst - nur für die Xbox 360 erscheinen. Zu dieser Vermutung kommt Chris Kohler auf Wired.com.

Der Grund ist die offizielle Einladung zu einer Rock Band-Party auf der E3; darauf fehlt das PS3-Logo. Möglicherweise erscheint Rock Band deshalb nur für die Xbox 360, vielleicht auch nur zeitlich exklusiv.

Electronic Arts hat sich zu dem fehlenden Logo bislang nicht geäußert - offiziell ist die Veröffentlichung weiterhin für PS3 und Xbox 360 geplant.
(Wired: 'Rock Band and the Case of the Missing PS3 Logo')
http://www.gamefront.de/
http://blog.wired.com/games/2007/07/...nd-t.html#more



Translation: Harmonix sent out invites to us press people for an "unveiling" at E3...problem is the invites only had the 360 logo on it and not the PS3 or Wii logos.

http://blog.wired.com/games/images/2007/07/07/rocksmudge_2.jpg

Yay for money hats! Yay for never seeing a Frequency 3 ever again if this is true!

[Kaboobi]

I personally think that the Xbox logo is on there simply because Microsoft is helping fund the party, I highly doubt 360 exclusivity. The way Sony is hemmoraging money right now, they probably aren't too focused on advertising for a third party game.
And a Wii one hasn't even been announced yet, I don't see why Nintendo would show up on there.

And did you ever expect to see a 3rd Freq game? After how terribly the first two sold, I don't think its in Harmonix's best interests to release a third. I'm sure they'd love to make one, and I'd love to play one, but the market just isn't right for it.

[CoWmAn]

After being told to keep supporting Harmonix by buying their new games to one day get a new Frequency, I damn well expect one.

There's also a major difference between the music video game market back in 2001 when Frequency was released compared to now. To say the market isn't right for it is ignorance and shows that you might suffer from mild mental ******ation. Nor did they sell terrible, they just didn't sell "great".

It's better then being force fed yet another rock game. Last thing we need is more rock.

[sushi111]

I would be concerned for PS3 owners if it wasnt EA. I more likely expect several hot naked women to be ready for sex in my bedroom at this moment and Santa Clause to get in a fistfight with Jesus on my driveway than EA making a 360 exlusive game.

[sushi111]

After being told to keep supporting Harmonix by buying their new games to one day get a new Frequency, I damn well expect one.

There's also a major difference between the music video game market back in 2001 when Frequency was released compared to now. To say the market isn't right for it is ignorance and shows that you might suffer from mild mental ******ation. Nor did they sell terrible, they just didn't sell "great".

It's better then being force fed yet another rock game. Last thing we need is more rock.

Thats one of the stupidest things Ive ever read. By the way kids, if you dont know, Cowman thinks Guitar Hero one and two are garbage, and so is Rock Band, he is simply buying the games to wait for a new Frequency.

Frquency is a great game, but you need to shut up about it already, and go to another forum if your going to diss Rock band

[CoWmAn]

Guitar Hero One and Two are garbage when you compare it to Frequency. Any game is garbage compared to Frequency, and it's too early to pass judgement on Rock Band.

But since you're ignorant and don't research what you type, we where told that if we supported Harmonix we would one day hopefully see a sequel. Rock Band was supposed to be Frequency 3, but evolved in a way. Too bad it incorporates Guitar Hero in it so it can't be Frequency 3.

EDIT: Oh and stop trying to be a moderator Sushi.

[StevoM]

I think they are showing the 360 logo because I bet they got something special for the PS3 and that might be the reason the PS3 logo is not on the invites

[CoWmAn]

I think they are showing the 360 logo because I bet they got something special for the PS3 and that might be the reason the PS3 logo is not on the invites

Frequency 3?

[StevoM]

Frequency 3?

No I mean something special for the PS3 version of Rock Band

[CoWmAn]

And I stated Frequency 3!

[StevoM]

You also might know that the Fender logo is not on the invites aswell when the controller is a Fender

[CoWmAn]

Fender would have nothing to do with the unveiling of the game at E3.

[Kaboobi]

Fender would have nothing to do with the unveiling of the game at E3.

Why not? They're showing off their products, after all.

[CoWmAn]

Because the "unveiling" has nothing to do with Fender, it's about the developers + publishers unveiling the game on a system/s.

[TheRocker]

No it does not have a nice ring to it .. i am a ps3 owner and i HOPE Harmonix does not let me down..

[CoWmAn]

Welcome to the club Rocker.

[Kaboobi]

Because the "unveiling" has nothing to do with Fender, it's about the developers + publishers unveiling the game on a system/s.

Yes, but the game also clearly shows off Fender products, both as the controller and on in game models.

[CoWmAn]

Still has nothing to do with the unveiling. That'd be like the GH3 party invite having a Gibson logo on it.

Also fun little factoid: MTV was part publisher on Guitar Hero 1!

[Kaboobi]

Still has nothing to do with the unveiling. That'd be like the GH3 party invite having a Gibson logo on it.

Also fun little factoid: MTV was part publisher on Guitar Hero 1!

Uh, but everything advertised with GH1 also had the Gibson logo on it.
And yes, there's even an MTV splash screen when you boot up GH1. Fancy that.

[CoWmAn]

This isn't an advertisement, it's an invitation to a private party. There's a difference.

[TheRocker]

This is Advertisement : Go Watch Your Favorite Family , The Simpsons Movie July 27

[CoWmAn]

You don't throw the budweiser logo on a party invitation that you send to your friends do you?

[Desensitized]

I will.

But I doubt the PS3 version will be cancelled, Harmonix wouldn't waste all that time and effort for nothing.

[Kaboobi]

Man is this topic getting pointless, its like talking to a wall. I'm done here.

[CoWmAn]

I will.

But I doubt the PS3 version will be cancelled, Harmonix wouldn't waste all that time and effort for nothing.

Maybe the PS3 version hasn't been worked on at all? It'd explain why we've only seen the 360 version...

[TheRocker]

I will.

But I doubt the PS3 version will be cancelled, Harmonix wouldn't waste all that time and effort for nothing.

Besides they have to be loyal to us we were the first ones that bought gh1 and made it one of the best selling games.

[CoWmAn]

Besides they have to be loyal to us we were the first ones that bought gh1 and made it one of the best selling games.

Yes, just like how we were the ones who made GTA3 into one of the best selling games, we certainly will be getting GTA4 as a exclusive!













Oh....wait....

[TheRocker]

i Dont care for GTA Games they are infantile and much dull in my eyes.. besides only people that play them are not even 13

[Desensitized]

Oh no, GTA4's going to another system! That means you can't play it on your PS3 anymore!










Oh wait.

[TheRocker]

the thing is the devs decided to go multi platform and then to F... the ps3 owners even more M$ payed 50 Million to Get exclusive content.. i didnt care for it going multi i didnt even care about it at all but thats just low of M$

[sushi111]

Oh no, GTA4's going to another system! That means you can't play it on your PS3 anymore!










Oh wait.


Yeah, fanboys make me sick. And there is no doubt in my mind Rock band will be on PS3.

[CoWmAn]

Do you want to put a bet on that Sushi?

[TheRocker]

Yeah, fanboys make me sick. And there is no doubt in my mind Rock band will be on PS3.

I must admit i am a bit of a fanboy , am not a hardcore gamer i barely own 5 games its rare for me to find a game i like , but guitar hero and rockband are awesome , i love rock music and this game brings music and gaming together wich is awesome , so what if other games are exclusive i dont care as long as i have RockBand am Cool :D

[sushi111]

I must admit i am a bit of a fanboy , am not a hardcore gamer i barely own 5 games its rare for me to find a game i like , but guitar hero and rockband are awesome , i love rock music and this game brings music and gaming together wich is awesome , so what if other games are exclusive i dont care as long as i have RockBand am Cool :D

Yeah, as long as I get to play the games I want. Hell I want Rock Band to be on PS3 because I want Harmonix and the game to be successful.



Do you want to put a bet on that Sushi?

Yes. Lets do it. Ill make a sig that says Cowman is the greatest and frequency is the greatest game ever in my sig and keep it for 3 months.

What you have to do is make a sig taht says, Sushi is the greatest, Frequency is not as good as Guitar Hero and Radiohead is the best band ever.

Deal?

[TheRocker]

More Cowbell Pleeeeaaaaseeee

[CoWmAn]

Yes. Lets do it. Ill make a sig that says Cowman is the greatest and frequency is the greatest game ever in my sig and keep it for 3 months.

What you have to do is make a sig taht says, Sushi is the greatest, Frequency is not as good as Guitar Hero and Radiohead is the best band ever.

Deal?


Deal. I'll even buy a Radiohead CD.

[sushi111]

Deal. I'll even buy a Radiohead CD.

Good. I reccommend OK Computer. You might want to put a pre-order on the CD.

[Electric_Zen]

This is the second thread where PS3 owners wake up screaming in the middle of the night, "Oh my God, what if they drop the PS3?!?"

Why are you people so insecure? Harmonix has clearly, unequivocally, announced that they are releasing it for Xbox 360 and PS3. This is corroborated on every major gaming site.

Just because you paid $600 for your system doesn't mean Harmonix has to tuck you in every night and say, "Don't worry, honey, it's still coming..."

[CoWmAn]

And Sega also said VF5 was a PS3 exclusive.

[animeaddict42]

And Sega also said VF5 was a PS3 exclusive.

that was a very stupid example... what we are talking about here is an already announced multiplatform game going exclusive, which has a lot chance of happening than an exclusive going multiplatform, which is what ur example says

[BlackHole]

Or its the version being unveiled at E3.

[sushi111]

Or its the version being unveiled at E3.

Probably it. They are probably starting this game as a 360 game, which is the reason they are showing it off only on 360.

[daneish7]

It's coming to the PS3.

If you'll take the time to read the logos, you'll see the insignias for VH1, Loop, Spike TV, CMT, and Nickelodeon. Guess that means you can play Rock Band on your Nickelodeon, but not your PS3...

Sponsors for a private party, that's all they are.

"We've only seen in on the XBOX 360!!!"

The XBOX 360 is currently the best established and #1 Next-Gen gaming console. On what else would you demonstrate your multi-platform game? Visually associating yourself with a well-liked, well-entrenched brand is just good advertisement and business sense.

[Amish_Gramish]

If Rock Band would be 360 exclusive, I wouldn't buy a single product from Harmonix.
But this is probably a MS sponsored event, (I know E3 isn't sponsored by MS, I'm saying the section that it's in is sponsored by MS and it will probably only be playable on the 360 if so) so it's probably just more than you think.

[TheRocker]

If Rock Band would be 360 exclusive, I wouldn't buy a single product from Harmonix.
But this is probably a MS sponsored event, (I know E3 isn't sponsored by MS, I'm saying the section that it's in is sponsored by MS and it will probably only be playable on the 360 if so) so it's probably just more than you think.

Worse thing that could happen is... M$ buys off Harmonix.. Then it never goes Multi..

[CoWmAn]

It's coming to the PS3.

If you'll take the time to read the logos, you'll see the insignias for VH1, Loop, Spike TV, CMT, and Nickelodeon. Guess that means you can play Rock Band on your Nickelodeon, but not your PS3...

Sponsors for a private party, that's all they are.

"We've only seen in on the XBOX 360!!!"

The XBOX 360 is currently the best established and #1 Next-Gen gaming console. On what else would you demonstrate your multi-platform game? Visually associating yourself with a well-liked, well-entrenched brand is just good advertisement and business sense.

All those logos = MTV = Viacom. So no, they may not be sponsors.

[skyehill]

Still has nothing to do with the unveiling. That'd be like the GH3 party invite having a Gibson logo on it.

Also fun little factoid: MTV was part publisher on Guitar Hero 1!

Good god you're dense. If they're a sponsor, they'll be part of the party.

[skyehill]

MS's name may be on the invite simply because Harmonix had to license their wireless technology to make the wireless versions of the guitar/drums/mic. To assume that the MS logo means that the game is suddenly exclusive is just utter idiocy.

[Apples]

MS's name may be on the invite simply because Harmonix had to license their wireless technology to make the wireless versions of the guitar/drums/mic. To assume that the MS logo means that the game is suddenly exclusive is just utter idiocy.

This quote wins the thread.

[sushi111]

This quote wins the thread.

Indeed. What idiot thinks EA just goes "Oh yeah you can have Harmonix!"

[deathstick]

How did this rediculousness actually go five pages, that's what I wanna know!!

[sa_nick]

If you change your options so it shows 40 comments per page it doesn't seem as ridiculous... only 2 pages for me :D

*sings along to some Mississippi Queen* oh yeah...

[CoWmAn]

Indeed. What idiot thinks EA just goes "Oh yeah you can have Harmonix!"

No one because that wasn't even implied. They'd be having them have Rock Band.


Also for being a silly rumor, you don't see EA, MTV, or Harmonix going out and calling it a silly rumor, no?

[hardyfoster]

umjammer lammy was the first guitar hero rock band EVER !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQmb9i1Xwgc


and another

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnR3h-4CtKI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_V-tlpehL34

[WildWalker]

Guitar Hero One and Two are garbage when you compare it to Frequency. Any game is garbage compared to Frequency, and it's too early to pass judgement on Rock Band.


You would have to say that calling GH1 and GH2 garbage is pretty insulting to HMX and the people that play these games. I have not played frequency, but I don't think you could compare GH to any game and come to the (honest) conclusion that it was garbage.

WW

[sa_nick]

umjammer lammy was the first guitar hero rock band EVER !

Oh god... I remember playing a bunch of demos for that game years ago. It's awesome how far the genre's come since then. Although I think there's a new PaRappa coming to PSP pretty soon.

[TheRocker]

Oh god... I remember playing a bunch of demos for that game years ago. It's awesome how far the genre's come since then. Although I think there's a new PaRappa coming to PSP pretty soon.

Correct , One coming to Ps3 Too , Let me Find the Article
http://ps3.qj.net/index.php?pg=49&aid=94705

[hmxsean]

It's better then being force fed yet another rock game. Last thing we need is more rock.

No accounting for taste, I suppose.

[Eman311]

harmonix is too small to be working on rock band for multiple systems and frequency 3. and i doubt they'll even make one considering how big they are now with first guitar hero.... soon to be bigger with rock band

[skyehill]

No accounting for taste, I suppose.

One has to wonder why someone so averse to rock would constantly visit a site about a game called ROCK BAND.

Personally, I can't get enough of the games you guys make. I remember buying Frequency the day it came out, and was so happy with it that I immediately found your company's email and sent out a thank you. That's how welcomed your title was. Keep up the great work.

[sushi111]

No accounting for taste, I suppose.

Hahaha.

"I hate games with Rock! Hopefully Rock Band will be different"

And Sean, could you settle this dispute for us? Just tell us what systems its coming out for.

[TheRocker]

"I hate games with Rock! Hopefully Rock Band will be different"

Somebody actually said this here ? haha

[sushi111]

"I hate games with Rock! Hopefully Rock Band will be different"

Somebody actually said this here ? haha

No thats pretty much what Cowman is doing on these forums.

[hmxsean]

And Sean, could you settle this dispute for us? Just tell us what systems its coming out for.

I already have. It is right in the FAQ. :)

[CoWmAn]

No accounting for taste, I suppose.

Why have plain Apple Pie when you can have Apple Pie with ice cream on the side?

Besides, there was rock in Frequency + Amplitude. Maybe if you guys ever want to spend that millions of dollors you're rolling in now you can throw in *something* as a "Thank You" to us Freq fans. Like, a Fear Factory song ;). Or maybe have one of the characters in the game be Komputer 9-0, that computer robot that appears in the Robot Rockers art. Remember that?

[sushi111]

Hey Cowman wheres your sig and your Radiohead CD?

[c0nd0rd4myt]

personally, i hate it when the really good games are exclusives, even when i have the system that game needs. Grand Theft auto should of been released on all platforms straight from Day 1. Knights of the old Republic should not of taken 8 months to go from Xbox to PC.

I think it would be an utter tradgedy for RB to be dropped from the PS3's list. even with the thing getting a 100 dollar pricecut as of yesterday, it still isnt selling (we have at least 3 full PALLETS of them at work), and a large part of that is that there arent alot of games out there that warrant its price tag. also, harmonix and sony have been homies for a while, i would be really surprised to their relationship go just like that.

[CoWmAn]

Hey Cowman wheres your sig and your Radiohead CD?

We do not know for sure until the game comes out. Anything could happen until then.

[sa_nick]

I think it would be an utter tradgedy for RB to be dropped from the PS3's list. even with the thing getting a 100 dollar pricecut as of yesterday, it still isnt selling (we have at least 3 full PALLETS of them at work)

Once the price drop becomes widely known the sales will probably pick up. Hard core gamers who have been waiting for this seem to be going pretty crazy over at amazon where the sales have risen 2800%. Hopefully casual gamers will soon follow and increase the general sales.

[Kutsic]

The Reason Why Video Game Systems are Successful: Lesson 1

The games. That's it, and that's the reason the PS3 hasn't sold well. It's not the price, to think that someone that can afford an Elite wouldn't be able to get a PS3 is pretty dumb. The simple fact of the matter is that nothing exclusive to the PS3 has made the system worth people's money yet. Once games like God of War 3, MGS4, Tekken 6, and the new Final Fantasies are released, the sales will pick up. It really is that simple. Also, as a side note, a new Frequency game would be a waste of money for Harmonix, Sony...and most likely the person that bought it. Frequency was an ok game at best, more like fun little music toy that resembles Cakewalk software more than a video game. It has it's audience and it has it's appeal to that audience, but outside of that, it won't sell and if the first two didn't convert anyone outside of that audience, I see no reason why a newer one would.

As for Rock Band becoming a 360 exclusive...I doubt it. Not because I'm hoping that it'll be on PS3, if it's not, then I'll buy it for the 360, but because the more systems the game is released on, the more money it will make. There is no doubt whatsoever in my mind that the game will be the highest selling game on both systems so far (well...maybe, Extremely Overrated 3...I mean Halo 3, might beat it). I also wouldn't be surprised at all if the game was ported over to the Wii.

If you bought a PS3, stop worrying that you'll miss out on every game released, as of now, most games are being released for both the PS3 and 360, and if that changes, buy a 360, it's that simple. Game consoles never change, there will always be certain games on other consoles that you'll want to play and the only way to do that is to buy the system, and up until this recent year, not too many people complained. So I don't see the big deal, look into what's coming out on systems, hope the developer's don't screw you over, if they do, welcome to the real world, things don't always go the way you want. But until they announce it's not for the PS3, jesus christ stop talking about it. They aren't just going to not release and not tell anyone before hand.

[Huskie]

Voice of Reason, was that you?
Excellent post.

Seven pages? For this?

Translation: Harmonix sent out invites to us press people for an "unveiling" at E3...problem is the invites only had the 360 logo on it and not the PS3 or Wii logos.
HMX already said from the get go to the press that this game will be on both system Holiday 2007.

[c0nd0rd4myt]

The Reason Why Video Game Systems are Successful: Lesson 1

The games. That's it, and that's the reason the PS3 hasn't sold well. It's not the price, to think that someone that can afford an Elite wouldn't be able to get a PS3 is pretty dumb. The simple fact of the matter is that nothing exclusive to the PS3 has made the system worth people's money yet. Once games like God of War 3, MGS4, Tekken 6, and the new Final Fantasies are released, the sales will pick up. It really is that simple. Also, as a side note, a new Frequency game would be a waste of money for Harmonix, Sony...and most likely the person that bought it. Frequency was an ok game at best, more like fun little music toy that resembles Cakewalk software more than a video game. It has it's audience and it has it's appeal to that audience, but outside of that, it won't sell and if the first two didn't convert anyone outside of that audience, I see no reason why a newer one would.

As for Rock Band becoming a 360 exclusive...I doubt it. Not because I'm hoping that it'll be on PS3, if it's not, then I'll buy it for the 360, but because the more systems the game is released on, the more money it will make. There is no doubt whatsoever in my mind that the game will be the highest selling game on both systems so far (well...maybe, Extremely Overrated 3...I mean Halo 3, might beat it). I also wouldn't be surprised at all if the game was ported over to the Wii.

If you bought a PS3, stop worrying that you'll miss out on every game released, as of now, most games are being released for both the PS3 and 360, and if that changes, buy a 360, it's that simple. Game consoles never change, there will always be certain games on other consoles that you'll want to play and the only way to do that is to buy the system, and up until this recent year, not too many people complained. So I don't see the big deal, look into what's coming out on systems, hope the developer's don't screw you over, if they do, welcome to the real world, things don't always go the way you want. But until they announce it's not for the PS3, jesus christ stop talking about it. They aren't just going to not release and not tell anyone before hand.

yah the games do matter, but the price of the system has a huge say in sales. Most of us dont have 1200 bucks to buy all three consoles (including tax in that). there are some games inside the PS3 list that i would really like to have, but i'm not able or willing to pay the 670 bucks to get the console first. However, the 360 has alot of games that also look good to me, and after tax it only costs me 430.

and for the record, nobody's buying the Elites either. people are just buying the 120 hard drives and upgrading what they allready have.

i was just talking speculativly, i know that RB isnt going to be a 360 exclusive. just saying how bad that would be IF it was.

i would also debate your thinking that rock band is going to be the best sellilng game for either system. those that know about it think its great, but there are a LOT of homies out there who dont know diddley about the game, or the fact that its being made.

i would think you dont seem to care about the systems or the pricing because chances are your not the one buying them.

[masterx1918]

It means their presentation will be on a xbox 360 console, which means microsoft is supporting Harmonix's event by providing them a 360 console, nothing more. It doesn't mean that there's no PS3 version

[CoWmAn]

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3160961

1Up thinks it's exclusive

[c0nd0rd4myt]

all i saw was TIMED exclusive, which to me means that said exclusivity will be TEMPORARY, and even so its purely speclutive (for the lamen that means its a GUESS)

[Magnet]

Also, as a side note, a new Frequency game would be a waste of money for Harmonix, Sony...and most likely the person that bought it. Frequency was an ok game at best, more like fun little music toy that resembles Cakewalk software more than a video game.

What the hell are you talking about? Frequency a waste of money for the people who bought it? An okay game at best? That game laid the basic foundations for Guitar Hero and Rock Band. It's easily one of the most original games ever created. The reasons Frequency didn't sell well are obvious. HMX was an unknown company back then, the gameplay was very different from anything else at that time, the opening video was enough to turn people off completely, and the marketing was mediocre at best. (But that lawnmower commercial with "Ignition" playing was awesome, if a bit cryptic.)


if the first two didn't convert anyone outside of that audience, I see no reason why a newer one would.

It's a cult classic. Now HMX is huge all of the sudden and gaming sites are fast to report on their activities and games. If they were interested in another Freq-esque game, I have no doubt that it would sell fairly well. It wouldn't sell like a Guitar Hero, but few games ever have. As long as the music was less esoteric overall than in Frequency, people would be interested in it. Amplitude tried to go more mainstream but ultimately failed, resulting in a weird, unsettling mix of Slipknot and Symbion Project. With MTV backing them now, they could obtain many necessary master tracks that would bring in a whole new audience. The mainstream stuff that was off limits in the old days is now becoming ripe for the picking.

I can understand your point about it being music software more than a game, but what could you honestly expect from a game delving into new territory? And why can't something be both? Just look at the MTV Music Generator games. The real problem with selling the idea of FreQ/Amp is its presentation. As much as I like the spaceship interface of Amplitude and the tunnel of Frequency, most people just can't get into that. When they can take the same concept and present it in a way that attracts a mainstream crowd, that's when you get a Guitar Hero and a Rock Band. The games are undeniably spiritual successors of Frequency and Amplitude at the very least. We'll probably never see another FreQ/Amp game, but we honestly don't need to anymore. We have the concept evolved to such a degree that going back to the L1, R1, and R2 buttons would be backtracking.

Putting it on a portable system is another matter entirely though, since using peripherals with those would be nonsensical. The PSP is gold for another FreQ/Amp game, but Sony shot the idea down once already. Maybe they could go through MTV to try to publish it this time around.