Assigned Guitarist Disappears

[folkeye]

I have assigned my characters to appear on their appropriate instruments while I’m playing solo so I can look at the full band. I’m having the problem of a random character showing up instead of the guitarist when he’s not being used.

What I mean is, if I decide to play with my assigned bassist, my assigned guitarist will not show up (even if I am playing the bass part). Same issue if I decide to play guitar (with the assigned bass player), the guitarist will still not show up (usually they take the spot of the bass player automatically). If I play with the assigned guitarist character who disappears when the bassist is present, the normal bassist shows up just fine on whatever instrument he’s supposed to be on.

Is there a known problem for the guitarist to not be there when supposed to be? It used to happen only on occasion, now I can’t have him in the band if I play strings not using him as a character.
When I sing or drum, everybody is where they are supposed to be. I have restarted, assigned different characters, removed them entirely and it just doesn’t want to work out. He remains elusive.

I apologize if the written explanation is confusing, but any input would be great.

*All my band members for this band are assigned permanent members, and assigned on insturments on the roster.

[dovanon]

I have assigned my characters to appear on their appropriate instruments while I’m playing solo so I can look at the full band. I’m having the problem of a random character showing up instead of the guitarist when he’s not being used.

What I mean is, if I decide to play with the character that I have permanently assigned on bass. My assigned guitarist will not show up (even if I am playing the bass part). Same issue if I decide to play guitar (with the assigned bass player), the guitarist will still not show up (usually they take the spot of the bass). If I play bass or guitar with the assigned guitarist who disappears when the bassist is present, the normal bassist shows up just fine on whatever instrument he’s supposed to be on.

Is there a known problem for the guitarist to not be there when supposed to be? It used to happen only on occasion, now I can’t have him in the band if I play strings not using him as a character.
When I sing or drum, everybody is where they are supposed to be. I have restarted, assigned different characters, removed them entirely and it just doesn’t want to work out. He remains elusive.

I apologize if the written explanation is confusing, but any input would be great.

There is some weird issue with stand-ins and guitarists.

Are they just stand-ins or permanent members?

I would start by making them permanent members of your band. I would make your primary character either the vocalist or drummer. Then also set all four stand-ins. See if that works. You can use the beginning of this guide (http://www.rockband.com/forums/showthread.php?t=89139) on how to take full band photos to make the other characters permanent members.

[folkeye]

They are all permanent band members and have no problems with merchandising/pictures on the website. Just for in game play. They are assigned, permanent and don't show up (guitarist).

[dovanon]

Do you also have stand-ins assigned?

[folkeye]

Yeah, they are all assigned to their appropriate instrument as stand-ins. Just for some reason, playing the assigned bassist makes the guitarist disappear regardless of playing the bass or guitar part.

I have un-assigned the guitarist, and tried putting other characters in there but they don't show up either. Just a random.

[mmthundarr]

Exact same thing happens to me, and it happens the same way whether I've set them as official band members or not.

With my main character not set as the stand-in for any part:


If I play guitar with my main character, the bassist stand-in shows up normally.
If I play bass with my main, the bassist stand-in appears on guitar rather than the character set as the guitar stand-in.
If I play either drums or vocals with my main character, both guitar and bass stand-ins appear as I have set them to.
If I play either bass or guitar with the character I've assigned as the bassist stand-in, the other guitar part will be played by a random pre-gen character.


This is happening to me on the PS3 version, if that makes a difference.

[SMaster777]

This is happening to me too, I just noticed it this evening when I played as the bassist of one of my bands to get her some money- my guitarist didn't show up at all. Singer and Drummer show fine though, and when I pick one of them, or the guitarist, all 4 show up as they should. All 4 are, like the TC's, permanent members assigned as stand ins to their respective spots.

[Ravaana]

It happens on every console. I think it has to do with the fact that the game searches for the guitar controller in general, not what slot is used. So all the stand in characters are added when you first load the tour, and not during song loading.

So picking up the guitar, even if you intend to play bass, means you fill the guitar roll. And the Bass stand in is to be used during the song. But if you play as the bassist, it doesn't know to select the guitar stand in.

To me, it's not that bothersome. But, I usually play vocals or drums.

[Phane7]

The game doesn't care who's playing bass or guitar, it only cares about the stand-in slot. If you're playing by yourself, you're always going to be taking the stand-in slot that you think of as the lead guitar. Since the same person can't show up in the same band twice, if you pick your basist while playing by yourself as either lead or bass, the game will throw a random character in as lead or bass depending on what you picked as an instrument.

If you want to play as your bassist and have the lead guitarist show up, then swap the lead guitarist into the bottom guitar slot on the stand-in menu or at the band start screen, use a second guitar to fill the left slot and then use your guitar to take the right guitar slot and then sign out the other guitar.

[folkeye]

So you’re saying plug in a second guitar dongle and log out the first guitarist? Sounds like a weird hassle for something that hasn’t always been a problem. It’s only recently it started, but I’m glad to know I’m not the only one who has this issue. Personally, I don’t like the look of a lot of the random generated characters and prefer to see who I assigned to the spot now that we have that option.

[elenothar]

you would think by now that could have been something that was patchable...

[Phane7]

As stated before, it's not a bug. It's that you guys aren't understanding how the stand-ins work. The game doesn't care if the stand-in is supposed to be a bassist or a lead guitarist, it only sees a stand-in for the first guitar position or the second.

When the player plays as the first guitar position the stand-in set for the second guitar position will show up playing bass or lead guitar depending on what the player decides to play.

When the player plays as the first guitar position and picks the character designated as the stand-in for the second, a random character appears since you can't have the same character show up in the same band twice.

So if you want the stand-in for the first guitar position to show up, you either need to put them into the second guitar position on your band's roster page or make sure you're playing from the second guitar position by activating the first position using another guitar so you'll join in from the second and then drop out of the first guitar position by hitting the red fret on the other guitar.

Once again, there isn't going to be a patch for it because it's working correctly, it just doesn't work the way you think it should.

Once you figure it out, the way it's set up is better because you can swap between playing lead or bass guitar and not have your stand-ins shuffle or disappear because of it, the other guitarist stand-in will merely swap instruments.

[folkeye]

I guess my brain isn't understanding the first and second guitar position. Are you talking about just rotating members to the postion you aren't currently playing? Like assign the character I'm using to guitar and the one I want to see on guitar/bass to what the game deems the bass spot orn the roster?

[Ravaana]

Yes, that is pretty much it man.

If you absolutely have to see your other guitarist then you have to assign the one you aren't using to bass.

[folkeye]

Yes, that is pretty much it man.

If you absolutely have to see your other guitarist then you have to assign the one you aren't using to bass.

Yes of course it is an absolute must :rolleyes: but oh well.... swapping is okay. Thanks!