Should Hyperspeed be an option?

[Maggot_Brain]

Just a simple question really. It's not about taking anything away from the game. Just a choice for those people who enjoy it.

[SoulScreme]

Sure, after all the other issues are addressed. It should be at the bottom of the list, but why not.

[Ultrace]

Sure, after all the other issues are addressed. It should be at the bottom of the list, but why not.Remember, polls like this are "gateway" posts. First, it's asking if it should be an option without impacting other development, then it's demanding that we want it now!

All joking aside, I don't see why we needed a poll when there's a thread with considerable history going on already, but there we are.

[Maggot_Brain]

Remember, polls like this are "gateway" posts. First, it's asking if it should be an option without impacting other development, then it's demanding that we want it now!

All joking aside, I don't see why we needed a poll when there's a thread with considerable history going on already, but there we are.

Because they closed the thread.

[Ultrace]

Because they closed the thread.
And considering it was closed for bordering on a flame war, some people might have taken that as a sign that the board atmsophere right now isn't primed for a discussion on the merits of Hyperspeed... But to each their own.

[Maggot_Brain]

Luckily this isn't a discussion thread, just a poll!

[_epacs_]

I'd like the option for guitar at least, but I'm not so sure anyone can play Blackened - Expert on Hyperspeed 5 on the drums. But it definately helps out on the guitar as far as reading the note chart goes.

[AdamWill]

Yes, with the speed used displayed on leaderboards to make those who consider fast speeds a problem happy.

[SoulScreme]

I just don't understand how making the notes go by faster makes the game easier for you guys? Either way, I say yes, but it's not allowed to count towards leaderboards.

[CollegeDropouts]

Yes, with the speed used displayed on leaderboards to make those who consider fast speeds a problem happy.

dude, dont even. you dont have to say that. i know you're trying to be nice about it (to like 1 guy). but those people who are against hyperspeed have the worst arguments and are just jealous. haha i dont mean to start this thread all over but seriously, learn to play. btw, i never used practice mode to "practice" a part. i use it just to skip to fun solo's so i dont have a play a whole song if im bored.

i also don't see why hyperspeed would be at the bottom of the list to improve the game for some. if there isnt many problems to fix then thats fine, it doesnt matter. but some people complain about not letting characters change instruments, or the the solo tour needs more options and such like bwt. those things would never matter or have anything to do with gameplay, theres still other things to do in the game, and you always have quickplay.

anyway i voted no for fun because this whole thing doesn't matter since no one listens to us. haha god i have the worst attitude, just trying to be honest.

[SoulScreme]

dude, dont even. you dont have to say that. i know you're trying to be nice about it (to like 1 guy). but those people who are against hyperspeed have the worst arguments and are just jealous. haha i dont mean to start this thread all over but seriously, learn to play. btw, i never used practice mode to "practice" a part. i use it just to skip to fun solo's so i dont have a play a whole song if im bored.

i also don't see why hyperspeed would be at the bottom of the list to improve the game for some. if there isnt many problems to fix then thats fine, it doesnt matter. but some people complain about not letting characters change instruments, or the the solo tour needs more options and such like bwt. those things would never matter or have anything to do with gameplay, theres still other things to do in the game, and you always have quickplay.

anyway i voted no for fun because this whole thing doesn't matter since no one listens to us. haha god i have the worst attitude, just trying to be honest.

What? I don't even understand what you're trying to say? The bottom line is that hyperspeed is silly and it's not the intended method of play. It would be nice for those who enjoy it to have the option, but letting it count in the leaderboards would be stupid. I said it would be at the bottom of the list under things like the Les Paul issues on PS3 and BWT cap, etc.

[ZkDotNet]

Why shouldn't it count in the leaderboards? It always has before. It was accepted in the World Series of Video Games and almost every other major competition. You have to play the exact same notes, so the same skill is needed to play. It just changes the scroll speed, a feature that almost every rhythm based game has had for years.

It doesn't even make everyone universally better. Wulfe is one of the top GH players and doesn't use hyperspeed. In GH3, everyone has a different speed they do better with (it has a 1-5 variable hyperspeed option). I know some people that use 4, but that'd be instant fail for me.

Anyways, hyperspeed conversations always degrade, so this will be my only post on the subject.

[Smidget]

In before lock


Who is this poll for anyway? Anyone who was interested in this topic was part of the other thread. A thread that HMX was surely reading and got more ideas from than a "yes or no" poll can give.

and just to point it out; it took under ten replies for this to become a discussion already.

[espher]

This poll should be a yes:no ratio of at least 3:1, or there are people with double standards. ;)

[Ultrace]

dude, dont even. you dont have to say that. i know you're trying to be nice about it (to like 1 guy). but those people who are against hyperspeed have the worst arguments and are just jealous. haha i dont mean to start this thread all over but seriously, learn to play. btw, i never used practice mode to "practice" a part. i use it just to skip to fun solo's so i dont have a play a whole song if im bored.
I definitely don't follow this logic. If using hyperspeed isn't any sort of cheat, then there shouldn't be any shame in attaching it to the scores on the leaderboard. And if all of the highest scores there have HS on, then we'll know that there really is some sort of issue with the charting that requires it.

[HollywoodBound]

Hyperspeed is unnecessary. HMX officials already said "There will not be Hyperspeed for RB because it takes away the reality. The idea to RB is to have the feeling of actually playing music."

[DesiredFX]

The difference in design of the RB fretboard makes it close to hyperspeed, anyway: the rectangular notes and the board that extends nearly to the top of the screen.

[AdamWill]

I just don't understand how making the notes go by faster makes the game easier for you guys? Either way, I say yes, but it's not allowed to count towards leaderboards.

It spreads the notes out more so it's easier to recognize patterns. It's much easier to recognize, say, a complex bass (drum, I play drums, don't really care about guitar) beat when there's a decent amount of space between each beat.

Regardless, this shouldn't affect your vote: even if you don't understand it, the fact that some people *do* consider it useful should be enough information for you to decide how you want to vote, I think (not implying any one decision).

[AdamWill]

Hyperspeed is unnecessary. HMX officials already said "There will not be Hyperspeed for RB because it takes away the reality. The idea to RB is to have the feeling of actually playing music."

One (unknown exactly who) HMX staff member said that in an interview, and as has already been pointed out, the quote makes absolutely no sense, as 'actually playing music' only involves watching a video monitor-based scrolling display of what you're supposed to be performing if you're Britney Spears and you've forgotten the words you're supposed to be lipsyncing again. I don't recall ever seeing a rock band turn up on stage with guitar, drums, bass, keyboards, smoke machine, a bad ass attitude, and a custom system for displaying their song tabs on a personal TV screen, do you?

I can kinda understand the people who think playing with hyperspeed is 'bad' or 'lame' or 'cheating' - I don't agree, but I at least get where they're coming from. But this idea (it's the "feeling of actually playing music") is just nonsense.

[Xney]

Yes.

In real music, complex parts are also spread out. If you've ever seen some really complicated classical or jazz music solos, the fast parts with a lot of notes are more spread out in order to improve readability. Hyperspeed just gives us the same option.

Every other rhtyhm game has speed options - which is a popular feature among the better players - so RB should too. Harmonix has never made it clear why they are changing the standard.

[CollegeDropouts]

K it wont matter now. but all those who think the game should have hyperspeed, the 5% who use it, so i dont see why we are having a poll and even still there shouldn't even be a "no" option to vote considering it doesnt concern you. i know right now that in Rock Band 2, there will be that option without a doubt. who cares what 1 hmx guy said to coverup not having hyperspeed in the game a couple months before release. its not a #1 priority but im sure they know they should have had it in the game. they made a scroll speed thinking it was good enough that no one would complain about it, but here we are.
i just wanna get down to it. you buy a game for a couple reasons, and others like for friends and achievements.
1. to have fun
2. to be good at it.
some people get mad at the hyperspeed people because all we care about is scoring high. so is people against hyperspeed not guilty for wanting to score high. since they believe taking hyperspeed away from those who can use it will get them higher. i dont know.

[Garthdude2]

yes cuz some ppl play different than others and RB is always about having fun with other or by yourself!:cool:

[Maggot_Brain]

yes cuz some ppl play different than others and RB is always about having fun with other or by yourself!:cool:

Having fun? What the hell is that? The only thing that matters is High Scorez!!!! Dude!!!!