Metal /Hard Rock Bands should really stop covering non metal songs.

[limelight_rush]

The worst covers ever have come from metal/hard rock bands.

I'll name a few examples

Marilyn Manson - Personal Jesus (Depeche Mode)
Marilyn Manson - Five to One (The Doors)
Dream Theater - Highway Star (Deep Purple)
Dream Theater - The Number of the Beast (Iron Maiden)
Dream Theater - Darkside of the Moon full album
Metallica - Brothers in Arms (Dire Straits)
Metallica - Shoot out the lights (Diamond Head)
Lacuna Coil - Enjoy the Silence (Depeche Mode)
Nightwish - The Phantom of the Opera (Lloyd Webber)
Judas Priest - Diamonds and Rust (Joan Baez)

[back_blows]

Metal /Hard Rock Bands should really stop covering non metal songs




Dream Theater - The Number of the Beast (Iron Maiden)
Metallica - Shoot out the lights (Diamond Head)


Umm.

[onduvalst]

Yeah but there are some great ones too.
any machinehead cover is great, they do an awesome job.
yngwie's cover of gimme gimme gimme
jimi hendrix's cover of watchtower
guns n roses cover of knocking on heavens door

[Lolicat]

Hendrix's Along Along the Watchtower is my favourite guitar arrangement ever.

[limelight_rush]

Yeah but there are some great ones too.
any machinehead cover is great, they do an awesome job.
yngwie's cover of gimme gimme gimme
jimi hendrix's cover of watchtower
guns n roses cover of knocking on heavens door

I'll agre on Hendrix's cover but on the other 3 I won't

[onduvalst]

Well you must be an elitist.

[Lolicat]

I'm sort of sick of punk bands doing 'comedy' covers of top 40 hits myself, but the examples that the OP gave here are just plain stupid.

[jaycizzo]

IMHO, Disturbed does great covers of Shout and Land of Confusion.

[onduvalst]

I really don't care for Manson but I liked his cover of Personal Jesus. I think some covers are a bit stupid like Cradle of Filth's cover of Devil Woman, but there are some really good ones too.

[afterstasis]

I'm sort of sick of punk bands doing 'comedy' covers of top 40 hits myself, but the examples that the OP gave here are just plain stupid.

agreed.

i couldn't help but laugh when a *****y ex of mine told me that she fired a girl who brought one of those "punk bands doing 80's covers" compilations to play at work on her first day.
hahaha! i'm still failing to hold back my laughter! :)

[Lolicat]

agreed.

i couldn't help but laugh when a *****y ex of mine told me that she fired a girl who brought one of those "punk bands doing 80's covers" compilations to play at work on her first day.
hahaha! i'm still failing to hold back my laughter! :)

Do you mind if I hook up with her, she sounds brilliant :P

[back_blows]

Hilary Duff needs to stop doing covers.

[afterstasis]

Do you mind if I hook up with her, she sounds brilliant :P

be my guest... it was nice knowing you. ;)

[Lolicat]

be my guest... it was nice knowing you. ;)

I'll trade you one of my exes. They're mostly crazy.

[limelight_rush]

I'm sort of sick of punk bands doing 'comedy' covers of top 40 hits myself, but the examples that the OP gave here are just plain stupid.

Oh my are Metallica, Marilyn Manson and Dream Theater among your favorite bands?

[Lolicat]

Oh my are Metallica, Marilyn Manson and Dream Theater among your favorite bands?

Uh, no, but Deep Purple, Diamond Head, Iron Maiden are Hard Rock or Heavy Metal.

[franticfish]

Here are some good covers of non metal songs by Hard Rock/Heavy Metal bands:
Young Man Blues & Shakin' All Over - The Who
Summertime Blues - Blue Cheer
Most Led Zeppelin songs
Hey Joe - Jimi Hendrix

Theres probably much more I can't think of.

[JerryBrudos]

The priest version of Diamonds and Rust is really good, very powerful vocals on that one.

[Runesmith]

I'm more concerned about non-metal/hard rock bands covering metal songs.

[back_blows]

I'm more concerned about non-metal/hard rock bands covering metal songs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QSBD9EZT34

[Teh_Jakester]

Megadeth did three awesome ones, in the '80s. These Boots was brilliant, until whats-his-face made them censor it, and I Ain't Superstitious is just badass. Anarchy in the USA's pretty sweet, too.

[franticfish]

Megadeth did three awesome ones, in the '80s. These Boots was brilliant, until whats-his-face made them censor it, and I Ain't Superstitious is just badass. Anarchy in the USA's pretty sweet, too.

Didn't they cover Paranoid too?

[Teh_Jakester]

Yes, but Paranoid is a Metal song, so the arguement would be kind of invalid.

[JukeBoxHero]

The priest version of Diamonds and Rust is really good, very powerful vocals on that one.

Yeah, in all honestly I prefer Judas Priest's cover to Diamond and Rust than Joan Baez's original.

[Rockbandfan23467]

The worst covers ever have come from metal/hard rock bands.

I'll name a few examples

Marilyn Manson - Personal Jesus (Depeche Mode)
Marilyn Manson - Five to One (The Doors)
Dream Theater - Highway Star (Deep Purple)Dream Theater - The Number of the Beast (Iron Maiden)Dream Theater - Darkside of the Moon full album
Metallica - Brothers in Arms (Dire Straits)
Metallica - Shoot out the lights (Diamond Head)
Lacuna Coil - Enjoy the Silence (Depeche Mode)
Nightwish - The Phantom of the Opera (Lloyd Webber)
Judas Priest - Diamonds and Rust (Joan Baez)

The bold songs were Metal to begin with.

OT, I like Manson's version of Sweet Dreams.

[Teh_Jakester]

... Highway Star was more Hard Rock than Metal.

[Gowienczyk]

I only loathe note for note covers; I don't care who is doing them. I want the band to cover a song in their style, not the original artist. Be creative.

For example; what Nevermore did to the Sound of Silence, that's a good cover.

[My name is Fez]

I only loathe note for note covers; I don't care who is doing them. I want the band to cover a song in their style, not the original artist. Be creative.

For example; what Nevermore did to the Sound of Silence, that's a good cover.

QFT. About the philosophy at least (haven't heard Nevermore's cover).

I enjoyed System of a Down's cover of Snowblind because they actually made it sound like a System song.

As far as the OP goes, argue all you want about which acts are metal, which ones aren't, but putting Maiden in the list automatically makes the rest invalid.

EDIT: Worth mentioning to Gowie, I got an awesome Sonic shirt yesterday that reminds me of your avatars so bad XD

[Gowienczyk]

QFT. About the philosophy at least (haven't heard Nevermore's cover).

I enjoyed System of a Down's cover of Snowblind because they actually made it sound like a System song.

As far as the OP goes, argue all you want about which acts are metal, which ones aren't, but putting Maiden in the list automatically makes the rest invalid.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tNApceu3AQ

[Lolicat]

Megadeth's version of Anarchy in the UK was horrible. Even worse than the original.

[Onslaught_fei]

... Highway Star was more Hard Rock than Metal.

I disagree fiercely. Deep Purple made more contributions to metal today than any other band that released an album in the 60's and was part of the full fledged wave 1970's heavy metal.

[Gowienczyk]

I disagree fiercely. Deep Purple made more contributions to metal today than any other band that released an album in the 60's and was part of the full fledged wave 1970's heavy metal.

Deep Purple was proto-metal, yes. But they were a hard rock band. Heavy Metal as a genre didn't get developed musically until the 1980s.

[onduvalst]

Motley Crue's cover of Anarchy in the UK is awesome.

[Onslaught_fei]

Deep Purple was proto-metal, yes. But they were a hard rock band. Heavy Metal as a genre didn't get developed musically until the 1980s.

If by heavy metal you mean speed, thrash, power, black, death, and every other splinter group that didnt form until the 80's. Black Sabbath had released songs like Hand of Doom and Iron Man in 1970, which cannot be denied are anything less than pure heavy metal. The Scorpions already had half a dozen albums out. Motorhead bought the punk, Priest brought the speed, and Blue Cheer brought the amplification in the 1970's.

Reminds me of the arguments on metal newsgroups in the late 90's on if Venom was Black Metal or not, if Carcass was death metal or grindcore, and if Dio was considered power metal.

[Shredder87]

If by heavy metal you mean speed, thrash, power, black, death, and every other splinter group that didnt form until the 80's. Black Sabbath had released songs like Hand of Doom and Iron Man in 1970, which cannot be denied are anything less than pure heavy metal. The Scorpions already had half a dozen albums out. Motorhead bought the punk, Priest brought the speed, and Blue Cheer brought the amplification in the 1970's.


Thank you

[Gowienczyk]

If by heavy metal you mean speed, thrash, power, black, death, and every other splinter group that didnt form until the 80's. Black Sabbath had released songs like Hand of Doom and Iron Man in 1970, which cannot be denied are anything less than pure heavy metal. The Scorpions already had half a dozen albums out. Motorhead bought the punk, Priest brought the speed, and Blue Cheer brought the amplification in the 1970's.

Reminds me of the arguments on metal newsgroups in the late 90's on if Venom was Black Metal or not, if Carcass was death metal or grindcore, and if Dio was considered power metal.


The Scorpions were progressive rock for their first two or three albums; and were 70s hard rock until a breakthrough pace in around 1978. Black Sabbath was one unique band that would pioneer heavy & doom so much in the future; I wouldn't deny they were metal, but using them in the discussion is really not well placed. Blue Cheer's innovative and concise albums were in 1968 and helped define hard rock (and influence metal; but more hard rock, this cannot be argued).

Heavy Metal (as in traditional. You know the sound Axel Rudi Pell, Warlock, Iron maiden, etc. all mainlined?) wasn't a developed and specific sound until around 1979-1984. Deep Purple was not different than any of the hard rock bands of the late 60s or early 70s (some albums bordered on the proto-metal take like Stormbringer).

[Onslaught_fei]

The Scorpions were progressive rock for their first two or three albums; and were 70s hard rock until a breakthrough pace in around 1978. Black Sabbath was one unique band that would pioneer heavy & doom so much in the future; I wouldn't deny they were metal, but using them in the discussion is really not well placed. Blue Cheer's innovative and concise albums were in 1968 and helped define hard rock (and influence metal; but more hard rock, this cannot be argued).

Heavy Metal (as in traditional. You know the sound Axel Rudi Pell, Warlock, Iron maiden, etc. all mainlined?) wasn't a developed and specific sound until around 1979-1984. Deep Purple was not different than any of the hard rock bands of the late 60s or early 70s (some albums bordered on the proto-metal take like Stormbringer).

There is a reason that Iron Maiden is considered New Wave of British Heavy Metal (NWOBHM) and not just First Wave or whichever. Again, Id say Warlock and Steeler are just as much hard rock as Deep Purple.

1) Do you consider the hair bands metal?
2) What do you use to differentiate hard rock from heavy metal.

[a21schizoidman]

Deep Purple was proto-metal, yes. But they were a hard rock band. Heavy Metal as a genre didn't get developed musically until the 1980s.

wow, you truly know nothing at all when it comes to popular music, do you?

[Gowienczyk]

There is a reason that Iron Maiden is considered New Wave of British Heavy Metal (NWOBHM) and not just First Wave or whichever. Again, Id say Warlock and Steeler are just as much hard rock as Deep Purple.

1) Do you consider the hair bands metal?
2) What do you use to differentiate hard rock from heavy metal.

1) Hair Bands were either trad. heavy metal or hard rock; it depended on the song/album/band/whatever.

2) I.. listen? and look into? What do you expect?

Warlock was just as heavy metal as Maiden were; but even as such early metal was a hard rock subgenre and it didn't become it's own for a good while.

[Gowienczyk]

wow, you truly know nothing at all when it comes to popular music, do you?

Wow, you sure like to be a general ***** for the last week.

[SevinWoohoo]

1. Diamond Head isn't metal what? Since When?
2. Punk Goes Crunk is one of my favorite albums /flamesheild

[Shredder87]

1) Hair Bands were either trad. heavy metal or hard rock; it depended on the song/album/band/whatever.

2) I.. listen? and look into? What do you expect?

Warlock was just as heavy metal as Maiden were; but even as such early metal was a hard rock subgenre and it didn't become it's own for a good while.
Hmmmm.....

I am awaiting a good counter-argument to Onslaughts "It's called NWOBHM for a reason" ....

[a21schizoidman]

Wow, you sure like to be a general ***** for the last week.

and you've been an elitist douche for about, umm, since you joined!

[Onslaught_fei]

1) Hair Bands were either trad. heavy metal or hard rock; it depended on the song/album/band/whatever.

2) I.. listen? and look into? What do you expect?

Warlock was just as heavy metal as Maiden were; but even as such early metal was a hard rock subgenre and it didn't become it's own for a good while.

We'll just have to disagree then. I agree that there's a large gap between hard rock and thrash metal, yes but mostly because hard rock has more blues and thrash metal has more punk in the mix. Overall though, I still stand that heavy metal was alive in the 70s and that Deep Purple is a heavy metal band.

[Gowienczyk]

and you've been an elitist douche for about, umm, since you joined!

I don't deny elitism; but I have strayed from offensive behavior since September when I joined; I don't care if you are having a bad week, but you are being a hypocrite generally this week.

I've been a douche? Look in the goddamn mirror with your attacks on me.

[KingProgdor]

People seem to forget about Judas Priest's involvement in defining the Traditional Heavy Metal sound in the mid- to late-1970's.

[Gowienczyk]

We'll just have to disagree then. I agree that there's a large gap between hard rock and thrash metal, yes but mostly because hard rock has more blues and thrash metal has more punk in the mix. Overall though, I still stand that heavy metal was alive in the 70s and that Deep Purple is a heavy metal band.

At least you are more civil about this discussion.

[a21schizoidman]

I don't deny elitism; but I have strayed from offensive behavior since September when I joined; I don't care if you are having a bad week, but you are being a hypocrite generally this week.

I've been a douche? Look in the goddamn mirror with your attacks on me.

in order to stop an ******* sometimes you have to be an ******* yourself

[onduvalst]

Dude seriously? Everyone knows metal was born in the late 60's early 70's. By the time you got to the eighties it had become watered down by the LA glam scene and due to that acts like Metallica had to bring it back. You can not defeat the metal! Punk tried, Hair tried, Grunge Tried! lol :P

[Gowienczyk]

in order to stop an ******* sometimes you have to be an ******* yourself

As I will say time and time again.

Chill the heck out. I don't see AS, Fez or some others having a huge problem with me.

[Shredder87]

As I will say time and time again.

Chill the heck out. I don't see AS, Fez or some others having a huge problem with me.
Eh....

Some of us are less vocal than others....

[a21schizoidman]

As I will say time and time again.

Chill the heck out. I don't see AS, Fez or some others having a huge problem with me.

some people don't post as aggressively as me

[instantdeath999]

Is it just a coincidence, or is every single post you've made in this forum ignorant and elitist?

Directed at OP.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QSBD9EZT34

Is it worth watching? I'm a bit busy :)

I mean, a 2 minute version of Four Horseman?

[Gowienczyk]

some people don't post as aggressively as me

=/

[Shredder87]

=/
In all honesty dude, you can be quite the rude individual here. Most of your posts are deemed as an attack.

[Gowienczyk]

In all honesty dude, you can be quite the rude individual here. Most of your posts are deemed as an attack.

Not really; they may be a little assertive but I very rarely do personal attacks/wars like a21 is doing.

[SevinWoohoo]

Derailed thread is derailed

[Shredder87]

Not really; they may be a little assertive but I very rarely do personal attacks/wars like a21 is doing.
yeah, they're really assertive, where people will say something back, like Shiz.

[instantdeath999]

I only loathe note for note covers; I don't care who is doing them. I want the band to cover a song in their style, not the original artist. Be creative.

For example; what Nevermore did to the Sound of Silence, that's a good cover.

True, but whenever you do a cover, especially in your own style, you always run the risk of "butchering it" in some eyes.

[KingProgdor]

Not really; they may be a little assertive but I very rarely do personal attacks/wars like a21 is doing.

Exactly. People don't seem to realise that there's a difference between being blunt and attacking someone.

[a21schizoidman]

yeah, they're really assertive, where people will say something back, like Shiz.

yeah, if he saw any of my other posts he would see im pretty damn laid back

[Gowienczyk]

True, but whenever you do a cover, especially in your own style, you always run the risk of "butchering it" in some eyes.

Rarely does a band cover a song creatively and it end up being butchered.

[My name is Fez]

yeah, they're really assertive, where people will say something back, like Shiz.

I don't see what the big deal is, honestly.

I mean, he's opinionated, but hell, everyone is around here. He can rub some people off the wrong way, but, *shrug* he's not that bad of a guy.

'Course, that's just me.

[Rockbandfan23467]

On topic, I also like Metallica's cover of "Turn The Page" by Bob Seger.

[onduvalst]

Hell metal is older than the late 60's! Robert Johnsonwas Metal, He sold his soul to the devil, you can't get more metal than that!
aC6CPwu0I44

[afterstasis]

Rarely does a band cover a song creatively and it end up being butchered.

i actually don't like the idea of a cover that doesn't rub at least a portion of the original's biggest fans the wrong way.

[Onslaught_fei]

On topic I like Thin Lizzy's cover of Whiskey in the Jar a whole lot and like Metallica's cover of Thin Lizzy's cover of Whiskey in the Jar

[Rockbandfan23467]

^^^Did you and crack get married or something?

[KingProgdor]

I don't see what the big deal is, honestly.

I mean, he's opinionated, but hell, everyone is around here. He can rub some people off the wrong way, but, *shrug* he's not that bad of a guy.

'Course, that's just me.

Nothing wrong with being a little opinionated and a bit on the blunt side. I can appreciate a person who won't candycoat **** and just outright tells it like it is.

[Onslaught_fei]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRSsxUjulLY
Dimmu Borgir
or
Twisted Sister
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aI-gW59Nas

[a21schizoidman]

On topic, I also like Metallica's cover of "Turn The Page" by Bob Seger.

i despise that cover honestly, i thought they ruined the song, took all the passion out of it

[onduvalst]

^^^Did you and crack get married or something?

If we did, you would be our spawn.

[KingProgdor]

I will never acknowledge the Dimmu Borgir cover of 'Burn in Hell' as anything but straight-up garbage.

But then again I'm bias towards Twisted Sister so meh.

[onduvalst]

I couldn't make it 30 seconds into that awful TS cover.

[instantdeath999]

Rarely does a band cover a song creatively and it end up being butchered.

Noticed I said "in some eyes". Even on the Nevermore youtube page, you have complainers. Of course, I guess a musician should know how to ignore the critics.


On topic, I also like Metallica's cover of "Turn The Page" by Bob Seger.

As do I

[Gowienczyk]

Noticed I said "in some eyes". Even on the Nevermore youtube page, you have complainers. Of course, I guess a musician should know how to ignore the critics.

Obv.

[a21schizoidman]

Nothing wrong with being a little opinionated and a bit on the blunt side. I can appreciate a person who won't candycoat **** and just outright tells it like it is.

theres a difference between being opinionated and blunt and being an arrogant ******* though

[KingProgdor]

theres a difference between being opinionated and blunt and being an arrogant ******* though

You're just perceiving him wrong.

[instantdeath999]

^^^Did you and crack get married or something?

Who is this directed to? This thread is moving very fast.

[Der_Lex]

My comment in the 'crap out your opinions' thread is valid here as well, gentlemen.

[Rockbandfan23467]

Who is this directed to? This thread is moving very fast.

Three posts above that one.

[Onslaught_fei]

I couldn't make it 30 seconds into that awful TS cover.

First time I heard a black metal song I thought it was pure ****ing ****, up and down. ****ty production, they couldnt play their instruments, and the vocalist sounded awful. Then I realize that they sound like Cobra Commander from GI Joe. Then it was awesome. That being said, I do still prefer the Sister version as well.

[afterstasis]

that dimmu borgir video came damn near ruining my perfectly scrumptious bowl of pasta! :(

[Onslaught_fei]

that dimmu borgir video came damn near ruining my perfectly scrumptious bowl of pasta! :(

Add some Dimmu burger helper to any pasta dish for instant value!

[back_blows]

Uses Rockbandfan as human shield.

I didn't mind Dimmu Borgir's cover. It's not as bad as any cover performed by Cradle of Filth.

[afterstasis]

Uses Rockbandfan as human shield.

I didn't mind Dimmu Borgir's cover. It's not as bad as any cover performed by Cradle of Filth.

aaaaah! the power of varg compels you! :p

[back_blows]

aaaaah! the power of varg compels you! :p

The back-up vocals aren't bad (I think that's Balder). Don't make me post Cradle of Filth or Children of Bodom covers;)

[afterstasis]

The back-up vocals aren't bad (I think that's Balder). Don't make me post Cradle of Filth or Children of Bodom covers;)

ugh... well, at least dani's kinda pretty.

[back_blows]

Very well.

Cradle of Filth-Hallowed Be Thy Name

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=91h6qUikXjA

Cradle of Filth-Fear of the Dark

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=G6QkJeXnpvM

Cradle of Filth-Devil Woman

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=PMO-rlNHwUo

Cradle of Filth-No Time to Cry

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=wokDxDt504g

Cradle of Filth-Temptation

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=xbGEFUtPsTE

[KingProgdor]

To be honest, I didn't mind CoF's cover of 'Hallowed Be Thy Name.'

[a21schizoidman]

To be honest, I didn't mind CoF's cover of 'Hallowed Be Thy Name.'

hey progdor, you might appreciate this:
http://www.rockband.com/forums/showthread.php?t=116278

[KingProgdor]

hey progdor, you might appreciate this:
http://www.rockband.com/forums/showthread.php?t=116278

I've heard a lot of the albums on that list, actually. Some of those I own on vinyl but just haven't listened to.

The one that bugged me was Symphony X's Paradise Lost. I think I remember hearing or seeing somewhere that the album isn't in fact a concept album.

But all in all I love the list. It has A Pleasant Shade of Grey on it so it wins, that's my favourite Fates Warning album.

I was a HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE Fates Warning fan about two years ago.

[a21schizoidman]

I've heard a lot of the albums on that list, actually. Some of those I own on vinyl but just haven't listened to.

The one that bugged me was Symphony X's Paradise Lost. I think I remember hearing or seeing somewhere that the album isn't in fact a concept album.

But all in all I love the list. It has A Pleasant Shade of Grey on it so it wins, that's my favourite Fates Warning album.

I was a HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE Fates Warning fan about two years ago.

eh enough of the songs pull together from the theme of the poem (IMO) so I included it, needed some symphony x

[onduvalst]

I think I've already mention my feelings on the Cradle of Filth covers.

[KingProgdor]

eh enough of the songs pull together from the theme of the poem (IMO) so I included it, needed some symphony x

I should probably read the poem.

[a21schizoidman]

I should probably read the poem.

i did as a sophmore in high school...

[My name is Fez]

i despise that cover honestly, i thought they ruined the song, took all the passion out of it

QFT. My girlfriend and brother both think Metallica's is better, and I constantly remind them that they're stupid.

[Onslaught_fei]

On the subject of Deep Purple, here is a cover from one of my favorite bands, not just metal, progressive, or death metal... but of all time (if I were to ever have 1 favorite band): Opeth.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnJxf0qyOWs

Opeth covering Deep Purple's Soldier of Fortune.

[Slashboi]

Mudvayne - King of Pain (The Police)

[KingProgdor]

Yeah, that Opeth cover is brilliant.

[timmay9]

On the subject of Deep Purple, here is a cover from one of my favorite bands, not just metal, progressive, or death metal... but of all time (if I were to ever have 1 favorite band): Opeth.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnJxf0qyOWs

Opeth covering Deep Purple's Soldier of Fortune.Badass.

[FleshofJesu]

everyone knows sunn O))) does the best covers of metal and non-metal songs.

[limelight_rush]

When did this post became a "shot your flames at the guy above" thread.

1) Deep Purple was considered as Hard Rock not Metal as was Black Sabbath IN THE BEGINNING of their careers.

2) Music is a matter of tastes, but what started all this thread is that people attacked Coldplay over the supposedly Satriani's song yet they defend metal bands butchering great songs claiming that they're better than the original version because, honestly, Metal bands have always considered themselves to be above every genre and made their fans believe that Which is a lot of crap. So is itright that a metal band cover (and in most cases) ruin a non metal song song but it's not right the other way around?

Secondly just because and good comedian but a joke of a musician (Jack Black) favorite genre is Metal, and made that horrible song (The Metal) where in the video the metal genre appears "beating" other genres doesn't mean is the truth.

If anything Metal is music for people who either:
a) Like really noisy music.
b) Haven't discovered any other genre yet.

[Shredder87]

When did this post became a "shot your flames at the guy above" thread.

1) Deep Purple was considered as Hard Rock not Metal as was Black Sabbath IN THE BEGINNING of their careers.

2) Music is a matter of tastes, but what started all this thread is that people attacked Coldplay over the supposedly Satriani's song yet they defend metal bands butchering great songs claiming that they're better than the original version because, honestly, Metal bands have always considered themselves to be above every genre and made their fans believe that Which is a lot of crap. So is itright that a metal band cover (and in most cases) ruin a non metal song song but it's not right the other way around?

Secondly just because and good comedian but a joke of a musician (Jack Black) favorite genre is Metal, and made that horrible song (The Metal) where in the video the metal genre appears "beating" other genres doesn't mean is the truth.

If anything Metal is music for people who either:
a) Like really noisy music.
b) Haven't discovered any other genre yet.
What?! Like really noisy music? Yeah, sure I guess. Discovered any other genre. Rock En Espanol and Blues happens to be up my alley, but apparenlty I haven't discovered it yet. As far as a metal band butchering a song, maybe, but isn't the case with every metal band covering a classic tune. Listen to Skid Row's Little Wing and it's a pretty faithful rendition. And I can't believe you're taking the Tenacious D video seriously.

[instantdeath999]

1) Deep Purple was considered as Hard Rock not Metal as was Black Sabbath IN THE BEGINNING of their careers.

.

Obviously. The "metal" tag had yet to be established. Black Sabbath are pioneers of metal.




2) Music is a matter of tastes, but what started all this thread is that people attacked Coldplay over the supposedly Satriani's song yet they defend metal bands butchering great songs claiming that they're better than the original version because, honestly, Metal bands have always considered themselves to be above every genre and made their fans believe that Which is a lot of crap. So is itright that a metal band cover (and in most cases) ruin a non metal song song but it's not right the other way around?



You seem to be mixing up covering a song, and "stealing" a song. Whether or not Coldplay stole Satriani's melody is debatable, but they definitely did not cover it.

And I love your sterotype of metal artists and fans.



Secondly just because and good comedian but a joke of a musician (Jack Black) favorite genre is Metal, and made that horrible song (The Metal) where in the video the metal genre appears "beating" other genres doesn't mean is the truth.

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... That song is a joke. I also fail to see how this backs up anything. AC/DC must suck because Richard Ramirez likes them. The Beatles must suck because Charlie Manson liked them. Rhythm games must suck because the Jonas Brothers like them. See where I'm going with this?




If anything Metal is music for people who either:
a) Like really noisy music.
b) Haven't discovered any other genre yet.

This is where you lose all credibility. Noise is very different from Metal. You talk about how they have not "discover many other genre yet", yet you falsely accuse all metal bands of falling into a genre they don't belong in.

http://www.last.fm/tag/noise

And did it ever occur to you that, just maybe, you haven't looked deep enough into metal to make a valid judgment? That some may like it for it's complexity? That you're being completely unfair with your sterotypes?

[Gowienczyk]

As a noise rock fan, I did giggle.

[Shredder87]

I currently await his response

[Ryyke]

Here's a good metal cover:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqCe4VnnEL8

And when I say good I mean awful.

[a21schizoidman]

dude, Opeth covering DP kicks serious ass!!

[onduvalst]

I happen to like everything from bluegrass to metal, I have discovered plenty of genres and still like metal. Many metal artist are classically trained musicians, I feel your taste are way to narrow and you should look into other genres.

[MronoC]

When did this post became a "shot your flames at the guy above" thread.

1) Deep Purple was considered as Hard Rock not Metal as was Black Sabbath IN THE BEGINNING of their careers.

2) Music is a matter of tastes, but what started all this thread is that people attacked Coldplay over the supposedly Satriani's song yet they defend metal bands butchering great songs claiming that they're better than the original version because, honestly, Metal bands have always considered themselves to be above every genre and made their fans believe that Which is a lot of crap. So is itright that a metal band cover (and in most cases) ruin a non metal song song but it's not right the other way around?

Secondly just because and good comedian but a joke of a musician (Jack Black) favorite genre is Metal, and made that horrible song (The Metal) where in the video the metal genre appears "beating" other genres doesn't mean is the truth.

If anything Metal is music for people who either:
a) Like really noisy music.
b) Haven't discovered any other genre yet.

A lot of ignorance here. First off, the point of "The Metal" isn't that Metal is a better genre, simply that it has outlasted many other genres of music while critics continued to say it was dying. Secondly, it's only noise if you really aren't paying attention, there's a difference between noise and dissonance, especially dissonance in how it's used in heavy metal. Furthermore, I've never met anyone who listens to exclusively metal.

[limelight_rush]

I currently await his response

At the moment you change a song from one genre to another (i.e a Country song to Metal) you're inmediately butchering it, hence ruining it. If a pop artist covers a pop song, mostly it does respect the original idea and adds a few things. Still is the same song (Natalie Imbruglia's Torn for example)

Metal groups most of the time doesn't respect the original idea and in their struggle to show that they are 'better than the original' they end ruining the song.

Some examples of the above are Lacuna Coil's Enjoy the Silence, Metallica's Brothers in Arms & Dream Theater's Highway Star.

[limelight_rush]

Wow, I didn't know that not liking metal in this forums made you look like an heretic.

[Lolicat]

Wow, I didn't know that not liking metal in this forums made you look like an heretic.

I don't particularly like metal either, and I'm not hunted by dogs. It's because your reasoning is flawed. If a band changes the genre of the song, it does not always ruin it. There are plenty of covers that I would rather listen to than the original. It depends on the arrangement and the musicianship.

[Soror_YZBL]

At the moment you change a song from one genre to another (i.e a Country song to Metal) you're inmediately butchering it, hence ruining it. If a pop artist covers a pop song, mostly it does respect the original idea and adds a few things. Still is the same song (Natalie Imbruglia's Torn for example)

Metal groups most of the time doesn't respect the original idea and in their struggle to show that they are 'better than the original' they end ruining the song.

Listen to Faith No More's cover of Easy. While I won't go so far as to call them a metal band, they've got a lot of metal in their sound, but that cover was 100% spot on of the original, and quite freaking awesome (then again, FnM always does great covers). In non-metal news, Alien Ant Farm's cover of Smooth Criminal was an rad-ass cover of a rad-ass song.



Some examples of the above are Lacuna Coil's Enjoy the Silence, Metallica's Brothers in Arms & Dream Theater's Highway Star.

I agree with those. :) Throw in pretty much all of Metallica's Garage Inc comp, especially the irish traditional song. First time I heard it, I cried green tears into my guinness and stuck a shillelagh in my ear. Pog mo thoin, James Hetfield.

[MronoC]

Wow, I didn't know that not liking metal in this forums made you look like an heretic.

I don't care if you don't like metal, it's practically designed to turn a lot of people off, but generalizing about anything will always make you look like a jackass. (except post-grunge, it's pretty much all awful :p)

[Teh_Jakester]

Ergh, I like some Post-Grunge, like Puddle of Mudd. '80s and '90s Grunge was better, though.

[Lolicat]

Ergh, I like some Post-Grunge, like Puddle of Mudd. '80s and '90s Grunge was better, though.

I lost all respect for you.

[Teh_Jakester]

Sorry. I could be way worse, though. I could love it.

[back_blows]

I lost all respect for you.

They're not nearly as bad as Theory of a Deadman. Sometimes I just feel down right embarrassed at the music coming from Canada.

[fiedy88]

IMHO, Disturbed does great covers of Shout and Land of Confusion.

I totally agree. Especially cuz Shout 2000 uses like 5 different songs in it.

[MronoC]

Ergh, I like some Post-Grunge, like Puddle of Mudd. '80s and '90s Grunge was better, though.

I have to admit, if I were ever running from a fiery explosion down a hallway in a movie trailer in slow motion, I'd want the chorus to "Blurry" blaring in the background.

[Lolicat]

I have to admit, if I were ever running from a fiery explosion down a hallway in a movie trailer in slow motion, I'd want the chorus to "Blurry" blaring in the background.

I'd want help.

[Twang]

I disagree completely, OP.

In fact, if I had any ounce of musical talent, I would do just that.

[AxlVanHagar]

They're not nearly as bad as Theory of a Deadman. Sometimes I just feel down right embarrassed at the music coming from Canada.

I know what you mean.:o

[Lolicat]

Bryan Adams...

[back_blows]

Bryan Adams...

Them's fighting words.

[afterstasis]

Bryan Adams...

man, "reckless" is a good album. "cuts like a knife" also has some good spots.

[Lolicat]

man, "reckless" is a good album. "cuts like a knife" also has some good spots.

I don't mind Adams for a bit of cheese, to be honest, but as a South Park fan it's my duty...

[instantdeath999]

man, "reckless" is a good album. "cuts like a knife" also has some good spots.

I actually saw him live, while he was doing something with Foreigner. I remember not liking anything not from "Reckless", though I agree that album is a good one.

[instantdeath999]

Wow, I didn't know that not liking metal in this forums made you look like an heretic.

It doesn't... making up sterotypes and being generally close minded about it is what gets most people.

[afterstasis]

i think most people my age and under unfairly bash bryan adams until they're reminded of "summer of '69" and "run to you".

[Lolicat]

i think most people my age and under unfairly bash bryan adams until they're reminded of "summer of '69" and "run to you".

Summer of '69 is honestly the only track of his I like. I can dig the DJ Sammy version of Heaven though.

[back_blows]

Summer of '69 is a good tune as is Everything I Do but When You're Gone makes my ears bleed.

[afterstasis]

Summer of '69 is a good tune as is Everything I Do but When You're Gone makes my ears bleed.

i'm unfamiliar with that one, but if it's post-robin hood soundtrack then i'm gonna take your word on it's ability to make the ear-blood flow.

[back_blows]

i'm unfamiliar with that one, but if it's post-robin hood soundtrack then i'm gonna take your word on it's ability to make the ear-blood flow.

It's the one with Mel C from the Spice Girls.

[afterstasis]

It's the one with Mel C from the Spice Girls.

yikes.
i really enjoy some spice girls tunes, but that is a duet i'd rather pretend i hadn't just heard about.

[back_blows]

yikes.
i really enjoy some spice girls tunes, but that is a duet i'd rather pretend i hadn't just heard about.

Imagine having to listen to that at least 3 times a day courtesy of the Canadian media.

[afterstasis]

Imagine having to listen to that at least 3 times a day courtesy of the Canadian media.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q65KZIqay4E&feature=related
never thought i'd post that! :p

[back_blows]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q65KZIqay4E&feature=related
never thought i'd post that! :p

I can picture the person who made that video.

[Rockbandfan23467]

Summer of '69 is honestly the only track of his I like. I can dig the DJ Sammy version of Heaven though.

The techno version or the ballad version?

[onduvalst]

Techno ver. rocks! and I'm naked :)

[JukeBoxHero]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q65KZIqay4E&feature=related
never thought i'd post that! :p

It funny to remember when I actual liked that song a little. Now it's an annoying song done by an inadequate artist. :)

[Zenweaponry]

I like almost all of those covers...