Most Over Rated Album Ever

[DeadPhoenix223]

i think it would have to be Master of Puppets. Everybody talks about how great it is, and it really isn't, but that's just my opinion, dont get mad at me if you love it...

[harbingerofdoom]

actually, it was that great.

this is coming from someone that cant stand what they have become. but that was still a great album.

and uh... just a friendly hint, you might wanna take this to the history of music forum.. its the perfect place for this type of thread.

[benson111]

Topics like this should be in History of Rock.

There are far more overrated albums that MoP. ;)

[hawkofva]

"Now That's What I Call Music" Volume 1.

/thread.

[Lolicat]

"Now That's What I Call Music" Volume 1.

/thread.

I enjoy the older editions, if only for camp value.

Overated albums? Nevermind, it's the weakest of Nirvana's albums in my opinion.

[Rockbandfan23467]

N B 4 Zeppelin.

[Lolicat]

N B 4 Zeppelin.

IV is pretty good actually, everything else is overrated from an AOR point of view as they were inconsistent.

[Rockbandfan23467]

^Presence and Coda get no praise at all, though.

[Lolicat]

^Presence and Coda get no praise at all, though.

O yea, I wasn't really counting them, I was refering to the others that do get undue praise.

[Hamsterhitman]

I enjoy the older editions, if only for camp value.

Overated albums? Nevermind, it's the weakest of Nirvana's albums in my opinion.

I love Nevermind. However, I think the reason that Nevermind is put on the top of "greatest albums of all time" lists instead of something like In Utero (which is, IMO, better musically) has more to do with the fact that Nevermind had such a huge cultural impact than anything.

[instantdeath999]

Overrated is the most overrated word ever

[Jixzer]

Most Over Rated Album Ever

None...not one single album is overrated. Opinions vary. You either like an album, dislike an album, or indifferent to an album.

Starting threads like these should be ban worthy.

[Lolicat]

I love Nevermind. However, I think the reason that Nevermind is put on the top of "greatest albums of all time" lists instead of something like In Utero (which is, IMO, better musically) has more to do with the fact that Nevermind had such a huge cultural impact than anything.

Exactly. In Utero is vastly superior musically, but people ignore that.

[WhiffleBallTony]

Overrated? What does that mean?

[Lolicat]

The most boring posts in these sorts of threads are the smart-arsed 'lol overrated is a dumm wurd/nothin iz ovurrated' posts.

Overrated means has far too much unjustifiable hype around it, generally pertaining to the 'public', although the definition of 'public' changes depending on the band's genre, because you can't rate Death Metal by the same public as Electro or Hip Hop.

[Alright_Computer]

The most boring posts in these sorts of threads are the smart-arsed 'lol overrated is a dumm wurd/nothin iz ovurrated' posts.

Overrated means has far too much unjustifiable hype around it, generally pertaining to the 'public', although the definition of 'public' changes depending on the band's genre, because you can't rate Death Metal by the same public as Electro or Hip Hop.

omg the electro nerdz i hang out w/ haevn't herd of mai favrite deth mettle band tehy r so underr8ed!!!!

[WhiffleBallTony]

The most boring posts in these sorts of threads are the smart-arsed 'lol overrated is a dumm wurd/nothin iz ovurrated' posts.

Overrated means has far too much unjustifiable hype around it, generally pertaining to the 'public', although the definition of 'public' changes depending on the band's genre, because you can't rate Death Metal by the same public as Electro or Hip Hop.

Except that it is justifiable, because the people that hype it enjoy the music.

[Lolicat]

Except that it is justifiable, because the people that hype it enjoy the music.

Nothing is justifiable when kids run around screaming that Metallica are Gods and that their new album is the best ever. Seriously, overrated is not a dumb term because people are generally prone to hyperbole, and overrate things even to themselves.

[WhiffleBallTony]

Nothing is justifiable when kids run around screaming that Metallica are Gods and that their new album is the best ever. Seriously, overrated is not a dumb term because people are generally prone to hyperbole, and overrate things even to themselves.

They like the album a lot. Is that such a problem?

Yes, they probably haven't heard enough other music to make a completely accurate judgment on how much they enjoy the album, but has anyone? There's infinite music in the world, no one has heard it all.

[Lolicat]

They like the album a lot. Is that such a problem?

Yes, they probably haven't heard enough other music to make a completely accurate judgment on how much they enjoy the album, but has anyone? There's infinite music in the world, no one has heard it all.

If I read one book by, say, Stephen King, and enjoy, then go out and give it a review saying that it has 'redefined literature, is the most important book anyone will ever read in their life', that is hyperbolic, and i am overrating it. Hyperbole, overstatement, it's overrating, whether or not you know better. One must be more refined with their appraisal of things, hence why we read multiple reviews, and never trust one source.

[WhiffleBallTony]

If I read one book by, say, Stephen King, and enjoy, then go out and give it a review saying that it has 'redefined literature, is the most important book anyone will ever read in their life', that is hyperbolic, and i am overrating it. Hyperbole, overstatement, it's overrating, whether or not you know better. One must be more refined with their appraisal of things, hence why we read multiple reviews, and never trust one source.

I'd call you a fool, but I wouldn't call the book overrated.

[Lolicat]

I'd call you a fool, but I wouldn't call the book overrated.

I say that the critic was overrating the book, and if the public went along wit the critic, I'd say that it was overrated. Just as a badly written book can become popular within the right parameters, so can badly performed music become overrated. It doesn't matter whether it is someone's opinion is that the band is good, there are certain things that if we look at, you can recognise poor musicianship, production, lacklustre performances. Those things are free of arbritary 'it's my opinion' defences.

[WhiffleBallTony]

I say that the critic was overrating the book, and if the public went along wit the critic, I'd say that it was overrated. Just as a badly written book can become popular within the right parameters, so can badly performed music become overrated. It doesn't matter whether it is someone's opinion is that the band is good, there are certain things that if we look at, you can recognise poor musicianship, production, lacklustre performances. Those things are free of arbritary 'it's my opinion' defences.

I can see where you're coming from, but I don't really know how to voice what I mean in a coherent way (I've struggled making these posts not be a bunch of random sentences). Clearly we disagree, so let's just stop arguing before we kill each other.

[Lolicat]

I can see where you're coming from, but I don't really know how to voice what I mean in a coherent way (I've struggled making these posts not be a bunch of random sentences). Clearly we disagree, so let's just stop arguing before we kill each other.

I can dig it.

[onidragon]

Kid A by Radiohead
The Bends by Radiohead
Ok Computer by Radiohead(good, just not godlike like everyone makes it out to be)
Viva La Vida by Coldplay

[Lolicat]

Kid A by Radiohead
The Bends by Radiohead
Ok Computer by Radiohead(good, just not godlike like everyone makes it out to be)
Viva La Vida by Coldplay

I agree on the Radiohead, because I really never got Radiohead. I think they're ok, but not fantastic. The Coldplay album just received favourable reviews, however, it's not like it's raved about. I even liked the first single, it was a good protest song.

[kwami42]

Kid A by Radiohead
The Bends by Radiohead
Ok Computer by Radiohead(good, just not godlike like everyone makes it out to be)
Viva La Vida by Coldplay

>.<

Vampire Weekend - Vampire Weekend

[Alright_Computer]

Thriller.

/thread

[onidragon]

I agree on the Radiohead, because I really never got Radiohead. I think they're ok, but not fantastic. The Coldplay album just received favourable reviews, however, it's not like it's raved about. I even liked the first single, it was a good protest song.

Viva la Vida was voted as being better than Nevermind and The Battle of Los Angeles on another forum I frequent. Now say to my avatar that Viva La Vida's not overrated with a straight smiley face.

[kwami42]

Viva la Vida was voted as being better than Nevermind and The Battle of Los Angeles on another forum I frequent. Now say to my avatar that Viva La Vida's not overrated with a straight smiley face.

I did it.

I like Viva la Vida more than Nevermind and The Battle of Los Angeles, it's just more my thing.

[WingsOfSteel]

Never Mind the Bollocks, Here's the Sex Pistols.

[warthogdb]

"Overrated" arguments are valid. There have been enough "Best of" polls, charts, and lists in the media for years to the point that some of the praise that artists/songs/albums receive is just regurgitated hype that people at large take for granted without actually knowing enough about the subject to have a valid opinion. Some of those accolades may be more warranted than others.

I think that Sgt Peppers is not as good as Rubber Soul, Revolver, or Abbey Road but it routinely is listed as the greatest album ever.

[thedoorsdk]

Sgt. Peppers
Led Zep 4
Dark Side of the Moon
Hotel California

[onidragon]

I did it.

I like Viva la Vida more than Nevermind and The Battle of Los Angeles, it's just more my thing.

So you like "rock" music that puts you to sleep? Great, cuz I've got some fantastic lullabies just for you!

Seriously, almost every Coldplay song I've heard makes me want to take a nap. I can't listen to them while I'm out, I might fall asleep in the mall and be mistaken for a hobo. As the New York Times said, they are the most insufferable band of the decade.

Speaking of, Parachutes and X&Y are overrated as well, along with Emeniem's Marshall Mathers(?) LP.

[My name is Fez]

Overrated is the most overrated word ever

This thread is the most overrated album ever.

[Rockbandfan23467]

Kenny underrated the word overrated.

[Lolicat]

So you like "rock" music that puts you to sleep? Great, cuz I've got some fantastic lullabies just for you!

Seriously, almost every Coldplay song I've heard makes me want to take a nap. I can't listen to them while I'm out, I might fall asleep in the mall and be mistaken for a hobo. As the New York Times said, they are the most insufferable band of the decade.

Speaking of, Parachutes and X&Y are overrated as well, along with Emeniem's Marshall Mathers(?) LP.

I hear lots of opinions with nothing to back them up than a crap internet poll, which is not reliable. As for whether Coldplay are the most insufferable band of the decade, I don't really think so. Maybe the most lasting hatable band, but there are worse and more annoying artists. I at least respect Chris Martin for his charity work.
Eminem is massively overrated because he's one of those people that gets away with all sorts of bigotry and people say he has had a tough life.

[kwami42]

So you like "rock" music that puts you to sleep? Great, cuz I've got some fantastic lullabies just for you!

Seriously, almost every Coldplay song I've heard makes me want to take a nap. I can't listen to them while I'm out, I might fall asleep in the mall and be mistaken for a hobo. As the New York Times said, they are the most insufferable band of the decade.

Speaking of, Parachutes and X&Y are overrated as well, along with Emeniem's Marshall Mathers(?) LP.

Wow, quit bashing me over the head with your opinion. I don't see the point in you just berating me when you're obviously not going to make me just stop listening to them. How thick are you? You're welcome to express your opinion, I just don't appreciate the hostility.

[My name is Fez]

I decided to re-read this thread and figured I'd chime in my two cents on whether "overrated" topics are dumb.

The concept of something being overrated to an individual is realistic because, hey, it's all opinion. Beyond that, no one can say without a shadow of a doubt what is and what is not "overhyped." And not to mention if a lot of people like it, then it's not all that overrated to the people that like it that much, amirite?

Although, I could really care less, honestly.

I just hate these topics because it boils down to

"AC/DC IS NOT OVERRATED YOU JUST DON'T LIKE THEM LOLOL"
"NO, AC/DC SUCKS THERE SONGS ALL SOUND THE SAEM"
"NO U"
"NO UR MOM"

And on and on into infinity.

EDIT: To Kwami, get used to the hostility, it's a way of life around here =D

[Oscar-Rio]

moving pictures
zeppelin iv

[kwami42]

EDIT: To Kwami, get used to the hostility, it's a way of life around here =D

Lol, I know how it is, I've been here for a year, just haven't posted much.

[supernova1324]

So you like "rock" music that puts you to sleep? Great, cuz I've got some fantastic lullabies just for you!

Seriously, almost every Coldplay song I've heard makes me want to take a nap. I can't listen to them while I'm out, I might fall asleep in the mall and be mistaken for a hobo. As the New York Times said, they are the most insufferable band of the decade.

Speaking of, Parachutes and X&Y are overrated as well, along with Emeniem's Marshall Mathers(?) LP.
Agreed. And whenever I hear Viva La Vida (the song) I want to punch a small child. I wouldn't call it overrated, but it's extremely overplayed.

Although it is cool that my cousin got to go on tour with them. She got to meet Jon Stewart because of it.

[Ryyke]

Appetite For Destruction

Oh, I went there.

[elfreako]

Gotta love how these threads always end up in "Name a legendary album you don't personally enjoy"

[Hungryfreak]

Thriller.

/thread

I agree.

[thedoorsdk]

Gotta love how these threads always end up in "Name a legendary album you don't personally enjoy"

Well I would say that calling something 'overrated' is just as personal and subjective as any other musical opinion, with the only prerequisite being that the album receives a generous amount of praise and recognition.

[Lolicat]

Thriller is a pretty solid pop album, but I do think it's overrated due to the large amount of popular singles on it. There are some weak tracks.

@Ryyke: I would say Appetite... is overrated in some ways, in that it didn't bring anything particualarly new to the table, and their influence wasn't really felt because alternative rock, etc smashed through in front of their dying scene.

[warthogdb]

I think that Appetite was kind of a transitional album. Despite the early hair image and the obvious popularity of the Sweet Child, Appetite was a very raw album that sounds more at home with Soundgarden and Alice in Chains than it does with Poison or Warrant. Unfortunately for the hair metal crew there weren't any other bands out there who sounded raw and real like GnR. Hair metal became a parody of itself and Appetite was a wake up call. I think that it actually prepared the mainstream for what was to come from Seattle. That said, musically, I don't think there is anything really groundbreaking but I don't think that it is an overrated album.

[Squaretriangles]

moving pictures
zeppelin iv

W-w-what?!?!

[Insane3]

Overated albums? Nevermind, it's the weakest of Nirvana's albums in my opinion.

I don't really like the overuse of the word "overrated" in this forum, but anyway, I agree with Lolicat. Nevermind is given a lot of credit for the cover art... but the songs are not actlually that good.

[paseana]

I know several of you will disagree with me on this, but I never saw greatness in The Clash's "London Calling."

Good record? Sure.

Greatest record? Get real.

[back_blows]

I know several of you will disagree with me on this, but I never saw greatness in The Clash's "London Calling."

Good record? Sure.

Greatest record? Get real.

I actually can't find a song I like on that album or by the Clash, but I wouldn't call it overrated.

[paseana]

I would say Appetite... is overrated in some ways, in that it didn't bring anything particualarly new to the table, and their influence wasn't really felt because alternative rock, etc smashed through in front of their dying scene.

Oh. My. God.

Were you at least 12 years old when AFD dropped? I wasn't into that scene then (I was in a Cure phase) but that album absolutely sounded differently than what was out there in 1988. Slash's licks were incredible then.

Hell, they're incredible now.

[paseana]

According to Wikipedia: "The album ('London Calling') received highly positive reviews and was ranked at number eight on Rolling Stone' list of the 500 Greatest Albums of All Time in 2003."

Number Eight?!?! Insane.

[Hungryfreak]

That's Rolling Stone. They are not generally considered the be all end all of music reviews. They've declared Zappa unoriginal among other such blasphemies.

[Lolicat]

Oh. My. God.

Were you at least 12 years old when AFD dropped? I wasn't into that scene then (I was in a Cure phase) but that album absolutely sounded differently than what was out there in 1988. Slash's licks were incredible then.

Hell, they're incredible now.

Slash's licks are boring if well-executed blues-rock riffs that bore me to death. Sure, it sounds different than the whole hair scene did, but it was still beating a dead horse.

As for the Clash, it was really the influence of 'look, kids, punk doesn't have to be the Ramones or the Sex Pistols, we can actually play well!'

[Koolkitties]

i think it would have to be Master of Puppets. Everybody talks about how great it is, and it really isn't, but that's just my opinion, dont get mad at me if you love it...
Yeah, I'd agree it's overrated. Not even my favorite Metallica album. ('Justice' is mine.)

Well, for overall most overrated albums, there are a lot of choices. If you mean rock albums, 'Nevermind' by Nirvana comes to mind. I mean, it's pretty unique even today, but honestly after the first three songs it seems to really...fizzle.


And of course Metallica's black album is immensely overrated as well.

[Lolicat]

Yeah, I'd agree it's overrated. Not even my favorite Metallica album. ('Justice' is mine.)

Well, for overall most overrated albums, there are a lot of choices. If you mean rock albums, 'Nevermind' by Nirvana comes to mind. I mean, it's pretty unique even today, but honestly after the first three songs it seems to really...fizzle.


And of course Metallica's black album is immensely overrated as well.

Metallica's black album was a boring Hard Rock album to me. I couldn't see the hype, ever.

[Koolkitties]

Metallica's black album was a boring Hard Rock album to me. I couldn't see the hype, ever.
And yet it still sells a million a year.

[Lolicat]

And yet it still sells a million a year.

Idiots see 'Metallica' on a CD cover and become bigger idiots.

[Hungryfreak]

Nah, it's just more 'tame'. The casual music listener really only listens to 'tame' music that they can 'dance' to. At least that's the impression I get from people I try to talk to about music who think that even Deep Purple is too heavy.

[blackfeltfedora]

And yet it still sells a million a year.
that is the same pap Hetfield has been spouting for years.
"Your right, Metallica is a sell out.....every night"

The fact that Metallica's (no better than) 5th best full-length album sells more than any of their better work tells you all you need to know about Metallica fans

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Now playing: Metallica - The Wait (http://www.foxytunes.com/artist/metallica/track/the_wait)
via FoxyTunes (http://www.foxytunes.com/signatunes/)

[Squaretriangles]

That's Rolling Stone. They are not generally considered the be all end all of music reviews. They've declared Zappa unoriginal among other such blasphemies.

Rolling Stone is the most overrated album.

[Lolicat]

that is the same pap Hetfield has been spouting for years.
"Your right, Metallica is a sell out.....every night"

The fact that Metallica's (no better than) 5th best full-length album sells more than any of their better work tells you all you need to know about Metallica fans

That they're idiots.

[Hungryfreak]

Yeah, they tend to worship Metallica in every way, making ridiculous claims such as calling Lars Ulrich a lord of the drums.

[Koolkitties]

that is the same pap Hetfield has been spouting for years.
"Your right, Metallica is a sell out.....every night"

The fact that Metallica's (no better than) 5th best full-length album sells more than any of their better work tells you all you need to know about Metallica fans

----------------
Now playing: Metallica - The Wait (http://www.foxytunes.com/artist/metallica/track/the_wait)
via FoxyTunes (http://www.foxytunes.com/signatunes/)
I'm sorry, did it look like I wasw praising metallica?

Oh no, I was criticizing the Sheeple who enjoy that piece of mediocrity.

[instantdeath999]

Idiots see 'Metallica' on a CD cover and become bigger idiots.

http://www.ilbaluardo.com/Cover/Audio/M%20-%20N%20-%20O/METALLICA%20-%20Black%20album%20-%20Front.jpg

I barely see Metallica on the cover.

Of course, I fully believe it selling had nothing to do with them being "Metallica", as they really weren't even that popular outside of "One". It's like saying Led Zeppelin IV sold because they were Led Zeppelin.

Today is a different story.

[Lolicat]

http://www.ilbaluardo.com/Cover/Audio/M%20-%20N%20-%20O/METALLICA%20-%20Black%20album%20-%20Front.jpg

I barely see Metallica on the cover.

Of course, I fully believe it selling had nothing to do with them being "Metallica", as they really weren't even that popular outside of "One". It's like saying Led Zeppelin IV sold because they were Led Zeppelin.

Today is a different story.

I was speaking for the contiuing sales earlier, although I do still think it was a boring album.

[blackfeltfedora]

if you are a "metal" band and a ska band does a cover that comes off as heavier than the original you should really take a long look in the mirror

[instantdeath999]

if you are a "metal" band and a ska band does a cover that comes off as heavier than the original you should really take a long look in the mirror

I think I'm missing an obvious reference... but what are you referring to? :p

[Zenweaponry]

It's not that great, but it is a really good album.

[Ryyke]

I think I'm missing an obvious reference... but what are you referring to? :p
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRBNuTNWHso

At least, that's what I think he's referring to...

[blackfeltfedora]

yep

[onidragon]

Wow, quit bashing me over the head with your opinion. I don't see the point in you just berating me when you're obviously not going to make me just stop listening to them. How thick are you? You're welcome to express your opinion, I just don't appreciate the hostility.

I'm not thick, I just do NOT see the appeal in Coldplay at ALL. So when someone tells me they are better than a band that is world renowned, like Nirvana, it makes my blood boil.

And I agree with Lolicat in that Emeniem is an ass. He's sexist, homophobic, and a bigot, yet the monkeys at Rolling Stone dub him the 21st century's best rapper. >:(

[Lolicat]

I'm not thick, I just do NOT see the appeal in Coldplay at ALL. So when someone tells me they are better than a band that is world renowned, like Nirvana, it makes my blood boil.

And I agree with Lolicat in that Emeniem is an ass. He's sexist, homophobic, and a bigot, yet the monkeys at Rolling Stone dub him the 21st century's best rapper. >:(

Coldplay write solid enough songs, but it is just modern dad rock. They're not awful lyrically though. To expect them to appeal to a young audience like Nirvana is just ignorant of the band's output. I don't like Coldplay, but they are not some anti-music unit like people seem to believe.

[Hamsterhitman]

I know several of you will disagree with me on this, but I never saw greatness in The Clash's "London Calling."

Good record? Sure.

Greatest record? Get real.

I think that London Calling was an amazing album and is considered one of the best albums of all time because it transcended the punk genre and went above and beyond what bands like The Ramones and Sex Pistols had done. Listening to a song like "The Guns of Brixton" or "Clampdown," I think you can definetely hear influences ranging from pop to reggae.

[Teh_Jakester]

I'll say The Black Album. I don't see how it can sell so well, just being full of slow songs in Hetfield's monstrosity of a singing voice. Plus, the song most of them buy it for is just a crappy song about kidnapping children and forcing them to pray. Whee.
Plus Death Magnetic, but I hope that's just because it's shiny and new, and it will never be considered "classic". Kirk's guitar tone on this album disgusts me.

Oh, and Rumours. I never got why ANYONE would like Stevie Nicks, because she sounds phlegmmy, for lack of a better word. She is not a good vocalist. In addition, the most popular song on the album is depressing as hell. Who listens to music to get depressed?
London Calling's very overrated on this forum, as well.

Other than those, I don't generally see entire albums as overrated, even if they have overrated songs on them, (like Led Zeppelin IV, Appetite for Destruction, Nevermind, etc.), because the rest of the album is generally quite awesome, al biet overlooked.

Btw, I may be among the few that has heard all of Nirvana's studio material, and likes Nevermind better than In Utero. Bleach is still best.

[Lolicat]

Who listens to music to get depressed?

Btw, I may be among the few that has heard all of Nirvana's studio material, and likes Nevermind better than In Utero. Bleach is still best.

Catharsis.

Also, it goes: Bleach > In Utero > Nevermind in my head.

[back_blows]

I actually listen to depressing music when I get depressed, which happens far too often.

[Teh_Jakester]

I actually listen to depressing music when I get depressed, which happens far too often.

When I get depressed, I listen to Glam Rock. I don't know why, it just... happens.

[Lolicat]

I actually listen to depressing music when I get depressed, which happens far too often.

Cathartic effect...

[back_blows]

When I get depressed, I listen to Glam Rock. I don't know why, it just... happens.

I've tried everything from Glam Rock to New Wave. It just doesn't do anything for me when I'm in a funk.

[Lolicat]

Happy music makes me annoyed when I'm down.

[back_blows]

Happy music makes me annoyed when I'm down.

When I'm in a fairly angry mood I really can't be bothered to listen to something cheery.

[Gowienczyk]

Depressed Music when I happen to be depressed just worsens my mood.

[instantdeath999]

Plus, the song most of them buy it for is just a crappy song about kidnapping children and forcing them to pray. Whee.


... Enter Sandman is about nightmares Hetfield would have as a child.



London Calling's very overrated on this forum, as well.





I'd actually say the album is underrated, in the grand scheme of things. This forum is pretty small, after all.

[Gowienczyk]

... Enter Sandman is about nightmares Hetfield would have as a child.



I'd actually say the album is underrated, in the grand scheme of things. This forum is pretty small, after all.

How many forums have you been to? I've seen the album overrated many times before.

[instantdeath999]

Also, it goes: Bleach > In Utero > Nevermind in my head.

As much as I like Bleach, I've always seen the album as an attempt to imitate local bands. And the label they were on pressured them to go for a specific sound, and Cobain had to hold back some of his ideas. In a sense, they weren't really "Nirvana".


How many forums have you been to? I've seen the album overrated many times before.

Well, you really can't say something is overrated by going to forums... or, you can, but a very, very tiny proportion of music listeners frequent forums.

[Teh_Jakester]

I'd actually say the album is underrated, in the grand scheme of things. This forum is pretty small, after all.

Hence "on this forum". On another forum I went to, Cacophony was overrated to hell, but far from it in the grand scheme of things.

[Oscar-Rio]

Well, you really can't say something is overrated by going to forums... or, you can, but a very, very tiny proportion of music listeners frequent forums.

unless you go to a music related forum...

[Gowienczyk]

Well, you really can't say something is overrated by going to forums... or, you can, but a very, very tiny proportion of music listeners frequent forums.

Not true. It just depends on the userbase. Considering the other forum I frequent is one of the most populated message boards on the internet; I think I can safely say it's percentage of music critics and casual music fans (and everyone inbetween) is well divided.

or something like that. :p

[blackfeltfedora]

Not true. It just depends on the userbase. Considering the other forum I frequent is one of the most populated message boards on the internet; I think I can safely say it's percentage of music critics and casual music fans (and everyone inbetween) is well divided.

or something like that. :p

Still not true, just because there a lot of people on a particular forum doesn't mean they all read all the sub-forums. for example, the QC forums have over 20k members, but that doesn't mean you have 20,000 people frequenting the Music Discussion forum.

[Lolicat]

Still not true, just because there a lot of people on a particular forum doesn't mean they all read all the sub-forums. for example, the QC forums have over 20k members, but that doesn't mean you have 20,000 people frequenting the Music Discussion forum.

The other forum he frequents is the largest English-language message board. I think it has more than i's fair share of casual listeners due to its main draw, but it provides a fair cross-section of the biggest record-purchasing groups (teens/young adults).

[Bub]

^Presence and Coda get no praise at all, though.

Because Presence and Coda weren't exactly the greatest albums in the world.