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tolitz
11-28-2007, 03:05 PM
:mad: With all the ****ing great bands just currently on
why include ****ing EMO bands like Fall out **** and coheed...

theres a lot of great underground bands who out there
MTV sure has a bad taste for music nowadays
putting more emphasize to what sells rather than whose good...

I prefer more the musical preferences of GH3
trying to make the youth more aware of there rock predecesors
making their music last and respected

I really think they should place more metal tracks like metallica and slayer
to really push the limit of the game and the instrument....

not like those capitalistic-punk,poser-highpitched***ish-music
you call EMO

tmanrocks
11-28-2007, 03:09 PM
STFU REPTAR

C&C is Prog rock

And if anything they need to make a huge ammount of emo DLC

I would like to take a moment to say :


Green grass and high tides
Flirtin with disaster
Celebrity skin
Electric version
Should I stay or should I go?
Gimme shelter
Sufragette city
Etc


SUCK

vidwiz
11-28-2007, 03:12 PM
I had never heard of Coheed before but the singer on that track has one hell of an interesting voice if you ask me. Some of the other stuff I was not familiar with is growing on me as well. Then there's a few I don't like either. Yuh just can't please all the people all the time.

More Metallica is already available, why don' you download it? 2 bucks a track is cheap if you ask me.

psyborg
11-28-2007, 03:12 PM
:mad: With all the ****ing great bands just currently on
why include ****ing EMO bands like Fall out **** and coheed...

theres a lot of great underground bands who out there
MTV sure has a bad taste for music nowadays
putting more emphasize to what sells rather than whose good...

I prefer more the musical preferences of GH3
trying to make the youth more aware of there rock predecesors
making their music last and respected

I really think they should place more metal tracks like metallica and slayer
to really push the limit of the game and the instrument....

not like those capitalistic-punk,poser-highpitched***ish-music
you call EMO


Wow where to begin...

By "EMO" I'm sure your referring to teen bubblegum pop-rock garbage, I'm looking at the RockBand setlist and its filled with pure rock, legendary classic rock, some solid alternative 90s stuff and a touch of good metal(including 4 songs by Metalica), 1 or maybe two songs fits into what your describing.

1 or 2 songs gets you this worked up? really? I don't like FallOutBoy either but seriously dude...

Also are you just now realizing MTV is about money and not music? The RockBand setlist good or bad is thanks to Harmonix, MTV just pays them.

DesiredFX
11-28-2007, 03:12 PM
I don't have a problem with a small handful of the songs being stuff I don't like. As it is, this setlist is my favorite of any of the guitar-based games, and that's not even counting that the bulk of the songs are masters.

The two you mention are songs I would consider straight crap, but, hey, if I can get away with only 5 songs I hate out of 45 rather than the 20 songs I hate on GH3, I'm a whole lot happier.

And if people want more of the kind of music you dislike, they can get it through DLC that you don't have to buy.

MountainKing
11-28-2007, 03:12 PM
Noone cares what either one of you like.

Everyone has their own opinion on music. This discussion is so tired.

I don't like emo or whatever music either but Coheed is one of my favorite songs to play in Rock Band. Never heard of it until now and I think its kewl.

Doesnt mean I'm gonna run out and buy some eyeliner and legwarmers.

Quit cryin.

tmanrocks
11-28-2007, 03:13 PM
Yuh just can't please all the people all the time.

QFMFT!!!!!!!!!

People like the guy who made this topic need to just stfu and realize NOBODY likes every single song in the game , and you aren't FORCED to play them but a few times

MacGrad
11-28-2007, 03:18 PM
MTV sure has a bad taste for music nowadays
putting more emphasize to what sells rather than whose good...

Wow -- imagine filling a game with music that is popular enough to SELL albums/downloads... just what is MTV/HMX thinking?!?


I prefer more the musical preferences of GH3
trying to make the youth more aware of there rock predecesors
making their music last and respected

You're right -- we need more music from the rock predecessors. Only one track from the 60s, and none from the 50s? Come on, guys -- where's the Elvis tracks? Where's Richie Valens? Where's the Beach Boys?

psyborg
11-28-2007, 03:20 PM
I just want to know what this guy considers emo other than FalloutBoy.

Aerosmith? Radiohead? Queens? The Ramones?

lol @ tolitz

Megafone
11-28-2007, 03:23 PM
I'd love to have some actual emo like fugazi or rites of spring

SoulScreme
11-28-2007, 03:24 PM
STFU REPTAR

C&C is Prog rock

And if anything they need to make a huge ammount of emo DLC

I would like to take a moment to say :


Green grass and high tides
Flirtin with disaster
Celebrity skin
Electric version
Should I stay or should I go?
Etc


SUCK

Listen kid. I get it, you like this emo stuff. I think most of it is garbage, but that's just my opinion. But you should try branching out into different genres. Celebrity Skin is probably simply before your time. Should I Stay or Should I Go is the FRIGGIN CLASH! They are a seminal punk act. And since emo is rooted in punk, you might want to give it a try. But blanketly calling everything else garbage is crapping on some of the greatest rock bands of all time. It's fine to like Fall Out Boy or My Chemical Romance, but to call the Rolling Stones' Gimme Shelter a bad song, just unforgiveable.

prontron
11-28-2007, 03:25 PM
coheeds not emo ****** i sprog and their bad ass and who cares it needs a wide variety of music and genres i only dont like he fall out boy song

tmanrocks
11-28-2007, 03:26 PM
Listen kid. I get it, you like this emo stuff. I think most of it is garbage, but that's just my opinion. But you should try branching out into different genres. Celebrity Skin is probably simply before your time. Should I Stay or Should I Go is the FRIGGIN CLASH! They are a seminal punk act. And since emo is rooted in punk, you might want to give it a try. But blanketly calling everything else garbage is crapping on some of the greatest rock bands of all time. It's fine to like Fall Out Boy or My Chemical Romance, but to call the Rolling Stones' Gimme Shelter a bad song, just unforgiveable.


Actually I know all genres and like alot of things

Gimme shelter DOES suck... sorry if you dont like me saying that but **** you and your classic rock worshipping BS

mind_in_rewind
11-28-2007, 03:39 PM
I'd love to have some actual emo like fugazi or rites of springFINALLY someone knows what Emo is.

DesiredFX
11-28-2007, 03:41 PM
Wow, if C&C is considered Progressive Rock, then Progressive Rock has gone to hell almost as badly as R&B has.

SoulScreme
11-28-2007, 03:49 PM
Actually I know all genres and like alot of things

Gimme shelter DOES suck... sorry if you dont like me saying that but **** you and your classic rock worshipping BS

Ok, so then why are you saying to basically turn the game into "Emo Band"?

Megafone
11-28-2007, 03:50 PM
Wow, if C&C is considered Progressive Rock, then Progressive Rock has gone to hell almost as badly as R&B has.

Just like R&B now, there are some really good progressive groups out there.

tmanrocks
11-28-2007, 03:54 PM
Ok, so then why are you saying to basically turn the game into "Emo Band"?

No , I'm saying turn the game into :

A combonation of:
Emo (Post-Hardcore and Pop-punk)
Metal (Thrash , Power , Progressive , Nu , Heavy)
GOOD Classic rock (Led zeppelin , Boston , Deep purple , Rush , Journey , etc)
Alternative rock
Grunge
Etc

I have nothing against classic rock , I simply happen to hate that rolling stones song in specific , that bowie song in specific (Bowie in general really) etc

Just like I can hate Panic! at the disco , I can hate David Bowie

bench43
11-28-2007, 03:55 PM
:mad: With all the ****ing great bands just currently on
why include ****ing EMO bands like Fall out **** and coheed...

theres a lot of great underground bands who out there
MTV sure has a bad taste for music nowadays
putting more emphasize to what sells rather than whose good...

I prefer more the musical preferences of GH3
trying to make the youth more aware of there rock predecesors
making their music last and respected

I really think they should place more metal tracks like metallica and slayer
to really push the limit of the game and the instrument....

not like those capitalistic-punk,poser-highpitched***ish-music
you call EMO

ok you're an idiot. Coheed and Cambria are progressive metal. NOT EMO. Just becuase the singer has a high voice??? Well i guess Rush is EMO huh? You're a dumb-a**

When I read the title "cmon whats with all the emo songs" I KNEW you were going to say choheed and cambria and fall out boy... now fall out boy... yeah F*** them. and I actually agree with the notion that GH has better song selection. But you have to consider the format. all songs MUST be conducive to all instruments.


FU*K FALLOUT BOY!:mad:

DesiredFX
11-28-2007, 04:02 PM
Just like R&B now, there are some really good progressive groups out there.

Yeah, but today's R&B isn't R&B the way it was originally defined. Compare Mary J. Blige to 60s Ray Charles or 70s Stevie Wonder. It's just not the same kind of music anymore.

And holding that C&C song up to the likes of Yes, ELP, Genesis, Jethro Tull...it's just a crime...

psyborg
11-28-2007, 04:40 PM
I can hate David Bowie


Nope. Not allowed.

mind_in_rewind
11-28-2007, 04:44 PM
Nope. Not allowed.I believe hating David Bowie is a punishable offense. In some states, anyway. Definitely in the UK.

tmanrocks
11-28-2007, 04:49 PM
Nope. Not allowed.

Bull ****

This is exactly my point

You guys would say hating Fall out boy isn't allowed if they were from 30 years ago

You guys just worship all old musicians JUST BECAUSE they are old and that is BULL ****

I bet neither of you *******s even listen to bowie seriously , yet you say I can't hate him

mind_in_rewind
11-28-2007, 04:53 PM
Bull ****

This is exactly my point

You guys would say hating Fall out boy isn't allowed if they were from 30 years ago

You guys just worship all old musicians JUST BECAUSE they are old and that is BULL ****

I bet neither of you *******s even listen to bowie seriously , yet you say I can't hate himDude, I don't even like most classic rock. I was raised in the 80's, went to college in the early 90's. I was raised on a steady diet of punk, industrial, new wave, and indie.

Bowie rules. Period.

When I was 13, 14 or so, I went through a phase where I listened to the Doors, Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, etc. It was a phase that lasted maybe a year. I got over it, because there was so much great modern music, like the Pixies, Red Hot Chili Peppers, etc.

tmanrocks
11-28-2007, 04:56 PM
Dude, I don't even like most classic rock. I was raised in the 80's, went to college in the early 90's. I was raised on a steady diet of punk, industrial, new wave, and indie.

Bowie rules. Period.

Ok then but you can't tell me I'm not allowed to dislike his music.

AdamTheBassist
11-28-2007, 05:08 PM
Hates a really strong word, and it's really thrown around alot here... I'm not a bowie fan, I don't get him, but i like suffragette city. I didn't know about that song before Rock Band, when i thought Bowie i thought of the songs like Heroes and Major Tom and Changes (the latter is the reason i don't get bowie, that's a really cheesy song...not a fan of forced stuttering in songs) but Rock Band showed me a side of Bowie i didn't know before, and maybe i'll rethink my opinion.

Perhaps i can rethink what i think about music because i am still relatively young (24) but not too young. It seems there is only a finite window where you can actually discuss after you've outgrown your initial genre bias and before you calcify into a rock dinosaur. So alot of the arguing is between children and dinosaurs, so i'm sure my logic will go largely ignored.

Lastly, "Gimme Shelter" is a bad song, there were SO many better songs they could have gone with, in my opinion, one of the few time i ACTUALLY defer to GH3 for a better song choice.

mind_in_rewind
11-28-2007, 05:15 PM
AdamTheBassist, regarding David Bowie, two words: Ziggy Stardust. Learn it, love it. Enjoy!

tmanrocks
11-28-2007, 05:18 PM
Hates a really strong word, and it's really thrown around alot here... I'm not a bowie fan, I don't get him, but i like suffragette city. I didn't know about that song before Rock Band, when i thought Bowie i thought of the songs like Heroes and Major Tom and Changes (the latter is the reason i don't get bowie, that's a really cheesy song...not a fan of forced stuttering in songs) but Rock Band showed me a side of Bowie i didn't know before, and maybe i'll rethink my opinion.

Perhaps i can rethink what i think about music because i am still relatively young (24) but not too young. It seems there is only a finite window where you can actually discuss after you've outgrown your initial genre bias and before you calcify into a rock dinosaur. So alot of the arguing is between children and dinosaurs, so i'm sure my logic will go largely ignored.

Lastly, "Gimme Shelter" is a bad song, there were SO many better songs they could have gone with, in my opinion, one of the few time i ACTUALLY defer to GH3 for a better song choice.

Ok but napster used to let you listen to peoples whole discography up to 3 times before they would cut you off and I took the liberty of listening to a large ammount of Bowie songs

And Honestly I just find alot of his music really lame/weird ... I'm not basing my dislike for his music off a single song

AdamTheBassist
11-28-2007, 05:19 PM
AdamTheBassist, regarding David Bowie, two words: Ziggy Stardust. Learn it, love it. Enjoy!

I like how my dad worded it "I have it, but i know what you like that i like, and i don't think you'll really care for it" So i think i'll defer to his opinion, sorry random internet guy. :D

AdamTheBassist
11-28-2007, 05:23 PM
Ok but napster used to let you listen to peoples whole discography up to 3 times before they would cut you off and I took the liberty of listening to a large ammount of Bowie songs

And Honestly I just find alot of his music really lame/weird ... I'm not basing my dislike for his music off a single song

I did the same, but i kinda glazed over suffragette city, i think it'll probably be one of the few i like... i agree with your review of bowie. it'll kinda be like how i dislike rap, but there are a few songs i don't mind... similar in nature to that

Manda
11-28-2007, 05:23 PM
Hates a really strong word, and it's really thrown around alot here... I'm not a bowie fan, I don't get him, but i like suffragette city. I didn't know about that song before Rock Band, when i thought Bowie i thought of the songs like Heroes and Major Tom and Changes (the latter is the reason i don't get bowie, that's a really cheesy song...not a fan of forced stuttering in songs) but Rock Band showed me a side of Bowie i didn't know before, and maybe i'll rethink my opinion.

Lastly, "Gimme Shelter" is a bad song, there were SO many better songs they could have gone with, in my opinion, one of the few time i ACTUALLY defer to GH3 for a better song choice.

A lot of words are thrown around everywhere, it's sad really.

I can't say I'm a fan of Bowie, or a lot of bands featured in the game, but I don't dislike them either, I just haven't had a chance to hear some of their better songs. I didn't like a lot of the song choices they made for certain artist's either, especially the Rolling Stones. It is possible for great, influencial, timeless bands to have a few misses.

Emo is a popular genre, regardless of it's reputation, and having it featured in the game isn't a huge travesty. Personally I don't know what the big deal is about the emo genre. But I don't pay attention to, or relate to the lyrics of a song, though I know of their importance to the projection of a song's feel and mood, it's just not a big deal to me. Their image also contributes highly to their style, and if you don't watch a lot of TV, be it VH1, MTV, MuchMusic, etc. *raises hand* then part of what makes the band who they are goes unnoticed.

mind_in_rewind
11-28-2007, 05:26 PM
I like how my dad worded it "I have it, but i know what you like that i like, and i don't think you'll really care for it" So i think i'll defer to his opinion, sorry random internet guy. :DWell, I suggested it since you like Suffragette City.

Oh well, that's pretty funny, though!

I guess I was jumping the gun, because I have no idea what your tastes are, anyway. :)


Manda, it's kind of silly how often the term "Emo" gets thrown around these days. Most of the bands called Emo, aren't. At all. But, that's what happens when an underground scene becomes mainstream. It's like when the press mistakenly started calling Nirvana "grunge". Or when the term "electronica" was made up. It's all BS. Everything these days needs to be commodified and labled. There is some GREAT Emo, and there has been since the genre was first coined, in 1983 or so.

Wait, what was I talking about?

Kytelngc
11-28-2007, 05:52 PM
Wow, people here act like Fall Out Boy screwed their mother and raped their father. Now I'm not one to rush out and pick up a Fall Out Boy cd myself, but the song on the game isn't THAT bad and it is actually fun to play through in my opinion. There are a lot of posers out there who just want to say they like or dislike a certain thing to fit in..... so I guess "emo" music hatred and classic music worship is the "in" thing to do as far as Rock Band is concerned.

( I am so gonna be flamed for this, but....Lol.)
My taste in rock is limitless...I'm just a guitar whore and I grew up listening to rock music in the late 90s and early 2000s, bread up on groups like System of a Down, The Redhot Chili Peppers(Dani California yay!) Bloc Party, Avenged Sevenfold (jumped on with City of Evil... good album) and *gasp* My Chemical Romance(yea yall hate me now lmao).....
I personally would like to play more up to date music in Rock Band because of my growing up with the modern stuff. Here's hoping for DLC for that... But I can and do appreciate the old stuff as well. Like Gimmie Shelter, it is an excellent song and I love it. Heck, to be perfectly honest, I really will listen to ANYONE who plays good rock, NO MATTER WHAT KIND OF ROCK IT IS. If it is GOOD it is GOOD. That is the way it should be I think instead of pre-judging by types of rock alone and hating some group just because of the music they make without even trying to listen to it. I can jam on the Metallica, Rollin Stones, and Nirvana happily and switch up to the modern stuff like Coheed and Cambira, the Yeah Yeah Yeahs, and *gasp* Fall Out Boy with no problems. Why is it so hard to just have fun with the music, people? Let's just stop the music bashing because just as well as you think somebodies taste in music is bad, they can very well feel the same way about you; and none of it is fact, only opinion.... And if you really want to rally for more classic stuff... why hasn't anyone called for some Jimi Hendrix? Now there would be some fret work for ya...

Brane Ded
11-28-2007, 06:19 PM
I would like to take a moment to say :


Green grass and high tides
Flirtin with disaster
Celebrity skin
Electric version
Should I stay or should I go?
Gimme shelter
Sufragette city
Etc


SUCK

That's how wars are started.

Manda
11-28-2007, 06:26 PM
Manda, it's kind of silly how often the term "Emo" gets thrown around these days. Most of the bands called Emo, aren't. At all.


My taste in rock is limitless...I'm just a guitar whore and I grew up listening to rock music in the late 90s and early 2000s. I personally would like to play more up to date music in Rock Band because of my growing up with the modern stuff. Heck, to be perfectly honest, I really will listen to ANYONE who plays good rock, NO MATTER WHAT KIND OF ROCK IT IS. If it is GOOD it is GOOD. That is the way it should be I think instead of pre-judging by types of rock alone and hating some group just because of the music they make without even trying to listen to it. Why is it so hard to just have fun with the music, people? Let's just stop the music bashing because just as well as you think somebodies taste in music is bad, they can very well feel the same way about you; and none of it is fact, only opinion...

I totally agree. Everything has to be labelled so tightly, and yet I don't believe any band out there can be classified under a single genre. Emo is, from what I understand, the image the band gives to itself. Linkin Park never made its debut as an emo band, but has been labelled such because of its lyrics... and yet their lyrics are not only made up in a short time after writing a song (don't quote me on this, I heard it somewhere), but they're so abstract that they hold different meanings to different people who listen to them. My fiance and his best friend had this argument over a The Killers song that talked about finding his girlfriend cheating on him. One thought it was depressing, while the other found the words uplifting like "You're a cheating w**** but I'm moving on." I can't remember the song for the life of me... Also, people are so against emo that anything that has the slightest bit of emotion behind their music is immediately ridiculed and beaten down.

I grew up on the grunge rock era of the early 90s (I want to see some Bush in RB!), up to now. And not only that, but country and - discovered around my teens - I began listening to pop. My liking of music has never been about a genre, or even a band, but the single song that I listen to. I enjoy some of Kelly Clarkson's songs, while others make my ears bleed. I think that Avenged Sevenfold's Bat Country is one of the best songs with the most incredible guitar solo I've ever heard, but I cannot stand Seize the Day.

psyborg
11-28-2007, 07:08 PM
Bull ****

This is exactly my point

You guys would say hating Fall out boy isn't allowed if they were from 30 years ago

You guys just worship all old musicians JUST BECAUSE they are old and that is BULL ****

I bet neither of you *******s even listen to bowie seriously , yet you say I can't hate him

Wait, so you really truly believe that the only reason why we all love Bowie is because its old? Nothing to do with songs like Ziggy Stardust or Major Tom or his incredible true-glamrock style but just the fact that its old?

Come on now. And do you really think were gonna look back at bands like Fall out Boy the same way we look back at the Stones?

And I was kidding before so calm down, you can like or dislike whatever you want. (it should be a punishable offense though:p )

knightone
11-28-2007, 07:11 PM
As I said elsewhere:

If you don't like the song or artist, you don't have to download it. Let people make their requests and let Harmonix put out as much variety as possible. I would love to see a great deal of range in music for this game so that just about anyone can have fun and enjoy playing. From top ten to lesser known artists and everything else under the sun. This game is a party that everyone needs to be invited to. So let's leave the hate at the door and give everyone a chance to have some fun.

Kytelngc
11-29-2007, 03:22 AM
This game is a party that everyone needs to be invited to. So let's leave the hate at the door and give everyone a chance to have some fun.

Thank you, person. That is EXACTLY the point I tried to make in my post. This is a game for having fun and enjoying music... not preaching fire and brimstone about bands you don't like, or just plain don't understand.


Also, people are so against emo that anything that has the slightest bit of emotion behind their music is immediately ridiculed and beaten down.

You're totally right about that right there... I myself take my music a bit deeper than most people so I like to have an emotional connection to it. I guess that's why I like some "emo, as these people call them, bands. And I prefer abstract lyrics... I like to THINK and percieve the song for myself. Make it my own with situations in my life. That's how System of a Down makes their music; its left to interpretation and very abstract. They said themselves that they want the fans to make their albums what they wanted them to be... I guess that's why they my fav band, ha... Need to hurry and get them on here Harmonix! But I digress...sorry..x.x... System of a Down and Bloc Party FTW!!!

Aesposit
11-29-2007, 04:30 AM
Wow, if C&C is considered Progressive Rock, then Progressive Rock has gone to hell almost as badly as R&B has.


umm...really? progressive rock that uses music to tell a story or to include progressive thinking in the structure of songs and solos and what have you? completely understandable if you just don't like that band though, but lots of people see them as the Rush of today using their albums to tell one complete story, and they are pretty talented guys, i wouldn't put them anywhere other than progressive rock

DesiredFX
11-29-2007, 04:43 AM
Lastly, "Gimme Shelter" is a bad song, there were SO many better songs they could have gone with, in my opinion, one of the few time i ACTUALLY defer to GH3 for a better song choice.

Funny, I thought Gimme Shelter was a much better choice for inclusion than Paint It Black.

Though personally, I'd rather have seen Mother's Little Helper, 19th Nervous Breakdown, or Sympathy for the Devil.

DesiredFX
11-29-2007, 04:47 AM
umm...really? progressive rock that uses music to tell a story or to include progressive thinking in the structure of songs and solos and what have you? completely understandable if you just don't like that band though, but lots of people see them as the Rush of today using their albums to tell one complete story, and they are pretty talented guys, i wouldn't put them anywhere other than progressive rock

I wasn't talking about whether they fit the progressive rock mold. I was talking about the quality of the music they're producing relative to the progressive rock I grew up with--Yes, Genesis, ELP, Jethro Tull and (to a lesser degree) Rush (who were really considered more of a Power Trio at the time).

Admittedly, the only C&C song I've ever heard is the one that's included with Rock Band, but between the whining vocals and the moronic lyrics, I felt no need to go any further. And, honestly, given the content of the lyrics, these guys aren't as far from Emo as people are trying to depict.

Aesposit
11-29-2007, 05:52 AM
i'm going to have to disagree, i think Coheed has been produced some extremely under-rated music, if you listen to their 2nd CD, In Keeping Secrets Of Silent III, the musicianship including is really something that no other band right now is giving us....though i can really understand why someone wouldn't enjoy or get the vocals, i wouldn't call them "Whining" and i hate this whole "emo" tag people slap on bands and a genre. it's just emotional music, the "emo" aspect evolved out of the scensters wearing that crap and whining, and writing in myspace and online blogs...but that's another thing all together....the lyrics are admittedly moronic if you don't understand the reason behind them, it's a giant story, so while it doesn't make sense when all taken out of context, together it makes a lot more sense. but still they are no where no "emo"

Texasboy
11-29-2007, 06:11 AM
Dude whats yalls problem the bands like
Hawthorne heights
emery
jimmy eat world
all american rejects
blink 182
and some other bands are sweet


if your worried about it that much than there should be downloadable playlists for certain music

Soft rock selection
Hard Rock Selection
Alternative selection
Punk Selection....

with diffrent bands that play that kind of music in them so people like yourself can just purchase and play the music you want to

and on a side not think about the vocals.... not everyone can sing like back in the day...
that just from the vocals prospective

Farrah
11-29-2007, 06:16 AM
FalloutBoy = Emo . . .

made me lol.

Apparently a lot of uninformed people fail to see that Poprock is being labeled as Emo. It's basically nothing more than stereotyping kids who listen to bands like this, and calling them Emo kids. Which they aren't.

DesiredFX
11-29-2007, 07:08 AM
i'm going to have to disagree, i think Coheed has been produced some extremely under-rated music, if you listen to their 2nd CD, In Keeping Secrets Of Silent III, the musicianship including is really something that no other band right now is giving us....though i can really understand why someone wouldn't enjoy or get the vocals, i wouldn't call them "Whining" and i hate this whole "emo" tag people slap on bands and a genre. it's just emotional music, the "emo" aspect evolved out of the scensters wearing that crap and whining, and writing in myspace and online blogs...but that's another thing all together....the lyrics are admittedly moronic if you don't understand the reason behind them, it's a giant story, so while it doesn't make sense when all taken out of context, together it makes a lot more sense. but still they are no where no "emo"

Again, I haven't had much exposure to the song--I won't torture myself like that--but all the musicianship in the world isn't going to save a bad song.

I'm reminded of a rather brilliant experiment that Steve Howe and Steve Hackett put together in the 80s called GTR. The band was based around the idea that in progressive music in the 80s, the synth had become king, so all the music on the album was played with guitar synth controllers.

And together, these two virtuosos of progressive rock guitar did some excellent work.

But the songs sucked. Nobody I knew wanted to listen to the band with me because there wasn't anything about the song that appealed to them. It didn't matter that Howe and Hackett were doing some really impressive stunts with git-synths...people didn't like the songs.

That's the way it is for me with the C&C song in this game. Since there's only one, it's relatively painless, but it's not something I'd ever consciously choose to listen to.

As for what I saw as the "Emo" nature of the lyrics, it had to do with what it sounded like while I was singing it.

Admittedly, my reaction is a first impression, but the reaction hasn't prompted me to want ANY more exposure to this band.

sleepbox
11-29-2007, 08:08 AM
I HATE whiny pop punk...it is actually what killed rock and allowed hip hop to take over.

AdamTheBassist
11-29-2007, 09:50 AM
I HATE whiny pop punk...it is actually what killed rock and allowed hip hop to take over.

Actually the moment that allowed that to happen was Kurt Cobain having his lovely shotgun sandwich and no other bands at the time being able to pick up the slack that was left.

tmanrocks
11-29-2007, 09:53 AM
Actually the moment that allowed that to happen was Kurt Cobain having his lovely shotgun sandwich and no other bands at the time being able to pick up the slack that was left.

ZOMFG!!!!!!!!!

PWN3D! lol

Eh but really I think what killed mainstream rock is MTV because they are the channel kids look to for music and when their options are : Crap , or WORSE Crap... naturally they are gonna pick some kind of crap

MTVs music is for casual music people who aren't super into music and apparently don't realize theres an entire world of music outside of MTVs Big 10 and TRL crap , maybe these people don't care either

But if I were you I'd blame the #1 stock owner from MTV for it

WingsOfSteel
11-29-2007, 09:54 AM
Thanks a lot, Courtney, this is all your fault.

GrayInvisible
11-29-2007, 10:42 AM
Thanks a lot, Courtney, this is all your fault.

She got him hooked on heroin I think.

AdamTheBassist
11-29-2007, 11:36 AM
She got him hooked on heroin I think.

Yep, strippers will do that :D

Scrunchy Fundoshi
11-29-2007, 01:39 PM
:mad: With all the ****ing great bands just currently on
why include ****ing EMO bands like Fall out **** and coheed...

theres a lot of great underground bands who out there
MTV sure has a bad taste for music nowadays
putting more emphasize to what sells rather than whose good...

I prefer more the musical preferences of GH3
trying to make the youth more aware of there rock predecesors
making their music last and respected

I really think they should place more metal tracks like metallica and slayer
to really push the limit of the game and the instrument....

not like those capitalistic-punk,poser-highpitched***ish-music
you call EMO

Totally agree with you, but you forgot to mention that crappy 2000's Alternative music that you would associate with Nerds who can't stop talking about their new Iphones with their hands (I.E. Radiohead, man, do they suck or what?).