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Paradox
11-28-2007, 07:06 PM
Forgive my maybe not proper drum terminology but I dunno what else to call them.

I just can't seem to nail the really fast single pad patterns at all. Partly because if I go two handed, I hit sticks and screw up and/or I just get off pattern. Whats a good drumming technique for those patterns? I'm pretty good otherwise but those things always kill me because they sound awesome when hit but I can rarely ever do it.

Brane Ded
11-28-2007, 07:18 PM
I'm no drummer, I don't even play in the game, but I could only imagine if you're getting crossed up like that you need practice. An instrument like that needs your arms and leg to do things they're not used to doing. You can pretty much only learn that through repetition.

Maybe someone who actually plays the drums could give you some golden advice, though.

davidshek
11-29-2007, 02:21 AM
There have been lots of other threads where I and other real drummers have posted lots of advice for n00bs just starting out on drums. Use the Forum Search function :)

The only advice I can give on this particular question has already been said: 'practice'. That's the only solution to your problem. There is no 'easy way out' here.

Edit: And when you're practicing this type of thing, the ONLY thing moving should be your wrists. If your shoulders or elbows are moving, you're not doing it right :) Practice it on one of your pads with your elbows at a 90-degree angle (your forearms parallel to the ground), held just slightly away from the sides of your body.

SoulScreme
11-29-2007, 02:23 AM
Forgive my maybe not proper drum terminology but I dunno what else to call them.

I just can't seem to nail the really fast single pad patterns at all. Partly because if I go two handed, I hit sticks and screw up and/or I just get off pattern. Whats a good drumming technique for those patterns? I'm pretty good otherwise but those things always kill me because they sound awesome when hit but I can rarely ever do it.

Just practice. I'm no drummer, but I have started hitting the fast not streaks very well lately.

I am right handed, so the way I do it is to use my right hand for all fast streaks. Even if it's on red.

reverser
11-29-2007, 02:27 AM
Just practice. I'm no drummer, but I have started hitting the fast not streaks very well lately.

I am right handed, so the way I do it is to use my right hand for all fast streaks. Even if it's on red.

Bad advice. Rolls should be performed with 2 hands. Do not use 1 hand for rolls or you will be kicking yourself later.

UwantRadie
11-29-2007, 02:40 AM
I am working my way through the Drums.

i have virtually no talent. next to terrible coordination and a complete lack of rhythm.

but with practice, I just beat Highway Star (the song from the Rock Band commercial) on medium in my second day of drumming (probably only my 30th song, 10th on medium).

It is all about rhythm. you got to find it. go into practice and just do that section over and over again, experimenting with different rhythms until you find the one that you need.

I am shocked at how little people use the TRAINING mode.

IT HELPS A LOT!!! Especially when you first graduate to a new difficulty level.

Paradox
11-29-2007, 03:57 AM
There have been lots of other threads where I and other real drummers have posted lots of advice for n00bs just starting out on drums. Use the Forum Search function :)

The only advice I can give on this particular question has already been said: 'practice'. That's the only solution to your problem. There is no 'easy way out' here.

Edit: And when you're practicing this type of thing, the ONLY thing moving should be your wrists. If your shoulders or elbows are moving, you're not doing it right :) Practice it on one of your pads with your elbows at a 90-degree angle (your forearms parallel to the ground), held just slightly away from the sides of your body.


thats what I was kind of looking for...HOW to do it, not that I need to practice..I've already been doing that, lol.

I wanted the technique because as of right now I'm having to go the one hand route as well and that just doesn't work all that well. I can get through the rolls but not play the rolls. I didn't want an easy way, I wanted the correct way.

boboette
11-29-2007, 04:14 AM
thats what I was kind of looking for...HOW to do it, not that I need to practice..I've already been doing that, lol.

I wanted the technique because as of right now I'm having to go the one hand route as well and that just doesn't work all that well. I can get through the rolls but not play the rolls. I didn't want an easy way, I wanted the correct way.

I played drums for about a year in high school. The rolls we learned was two beat roll, meaning two beat per side, LLRRLLRRLLRR..

It took us a few weeks or maybe a month. Every day for 2 hours we just beat LL RR LL RR(start slowly) on a practice pad. Make sure your sound is even, don't rely on bounce initially, otherwise the rhythm won't be consistent (it'll be more like L--l R--r L--l R--r, rather than L L R R L L R R). During the process you'll learn to relax your arms and wrists. In the end you'll have to utilize bounces a little bit (that's how you make it fast), but again don't rely on that in the beginning. A practice pad is about 10 bucks and you can practice on a coffee table or something. Some people suggest pillows but it'll be extremely difficult for a beginner to roll on anything too soft.

there are some lessons on the youtube if you're not sure about the correct way to hold sticks.

davidshek
11-29-2007, 05:25 AM
I played drums for about a year in high school. The rolls we learned was two beat roll, meaning two beat per side, LLRRLLRRLLRR..

Yeah your post was entirely correct...if he were actually talking about playing drum rolls. You as a former drummer and I know what that term really means, but that's not the term he meant. He just meant the fast fills. Not actual drum rolls :)