Apparently Activision has no plans to help with LP PS3 patch

[gamegod81]

I asked the following question while trying to get some answers from Activision.

Is it possible to ask if there are plans to work with Harmonix to patch Rock Band so that the Les Paul will work?

Their reply was
"We are not aware or have been informed of any deal like that in the works."

hopefully this isn't totally bad news. I was happy to see yesterday that harmonix is working on the compatibility issue, and I will continue to check every day for something good to happen.

[Ultrace]

You'll have to do better than that. ;) Too many people of late posting that they talked to "someone over the phone when I was calling to return my guitar" or "a friend who works with the company." Who at Activision did you talk with? And over what medium? If it was an e-mail, feel free to post it.

[TigerVoss]

I asked the following question while trying to get some answers from Activision.

Is it possible to ask if there are plans to work with Harmonix to patch Rock Band so that the Les Paul will work?

Their reply was
"We are not aware or have been informed of any deal like that in the works."

hopefully this isn't totally bad news. I was happy to see yesterday that harmonix is working on the compatibility issue, and I will continue to check every day for something good to happen.
Unfortunately.....everyone is still hiding about this major issue with the game. Harmonix probably wont announce anything, until they can give people a solid solution...meaning they wont state anything until they start selling the guitars individually.
It has become obvious that Harmonix is the only company not to make an official statement regarding the possibility of fixing the issue, or not. They have decided to dance around it, to save as much face as possible, until everything blows over.
I woulndt even mind if they just came out and stated what is becoming obvious through every other avenue but the horses mouth: "We screwed up, and dont want to admit it because we still have your money".
Let this be a lesson for all consumers out there...dont let the excitement of a product dilute your common sense. Harmonix (and EA) have ripped us off, and here we are hoping that the thieves will turn honest all of a sudden? Great game HMX, I will admit, however still trying to swallow this issue without any specific information from you is leaving an in creasingly bad taste in our mouths...
STEP IT UP, AND BE ACCOUNTABLE...you dont lie or steal from your kids do you?...well, maybe EA has rubbed off on you to much!!

[logicalnoise]

Unfortunately.....everyone is still hiding about this major issue with the game. Harmonix probably wont announce anything, until they can give people a solid solution...meaning they wont state anything until they start selling the guitars individually.
It has become obvious that Harmonix is the only company not to make an official statement regarding the possibility of fixing the issue, or not. They have decided to dance around it, to save as much face as possible, until everything blows over.
I woulndt even mind if they just came out and stated what is becoming obvious through every other avenue but the horses mouth: "We screwed up, and dont want to admit it because we still have your money".
Let this be a lesson for all consumers out there...dont let the excitement of a product dilute your common sense. Harmonix (and EA) have ripped us off, and here we are hoping that the thieves will turn honest all of a sudden? Great game HMX, I will admit, however still trying to swallow this issue without any specific information from you is leaving an in creasingly bad taste in our mouths...
STEP IT UP, AND BE ACCOUNTABLE...you dont lie or steal from your kids do you?...well, maybe EA has rubbed off on you to much!!

so it's their fault that they properly annouced that individual controllers would come out after the holidays. It's their fault IGN didn't bother to properly test teh controllers before making their bold statement. It's there fault for not actually stating the les paul worked with Rock band and it's their fault you didn't see the reports of incompatibility 2 days before the game released?
there are 3 reasons the controller isn't compatible:
1) Sony has loose controller standards
2) BT sucks for latency control(hence why a dongle is required for both games on ps3)
3) RO hates it's customers.

[Bakkster]

1) I wouldn't go out of my way to support a competitor's product when I know I wouldn't get the same in return either.

2) It would be worse for them to promise compatibility and not deliver.

[oddroot]

It has become obvious that Harmonix is the only company not to make an official statement regarding the possibility of fixing the issue, or not. They have decided to dance around it, to save as much face as possible, until everything blows over.

While I am not one to be the first to defend HMX, they did release this 'official' statement yesterday in case you somehow missed it:

http://community.rockband.com/vbforum/showthread.php?t=11578

[SoulScreme]

so it's their fault that they properly annouced that individual controllers would come out after the holidays. It's their fault IGN didn't bother to properly test teh controllers before making their bold statement. It's there fault for not actually stating the les paul worked with Rock band and it's their fault you didn't see the reports of incompatibility 2 days before the game released?
there are 3 reasons the controller isn't compatible:
1) Sony has loose controller standards
2) BT sucks for latency control(hence why a dongle is required for both games on ps3)
3) RO hates it's customers.

Umm, what the hell does point number 2 mean? I mean, Les Paul uses a dongle, so this makes NO sense.

[logicalnoise]

and as for HMX dancing "around the issue" they aren't they've said it over and over. They have nothing to say until they have a solid decision meaning they are still waiting on RO, still waiting on decisions from up top and so on. It takes money to make a patch. if it hasn't been plan for it will take time for the nessary funds and crew and teh truth is it would take those things from both HMX and RO along with neversoft to do it. WHich is very hard to do. HMX asked for your patience on teh matter for a reason.

[logicalnoise]

Umm, what the hell does point number 2 mean? I mean, Les Paul uses a dongle, so this makes NO sense.

since the actual PS3 hardware wasn't suited for the controller both RO and HMX had to make their own adapters. each one has different hardware and drivers. Hence PS3's design promotes proprietary technology for these controllers. If sony had decided on making a enhanced dongle that everyone had to support we wouldn't have an issue.

[Bakkster]

Umm, what the hell does point number 2 mean? I mean, Les Paul uses a dongle, so this makes NO sense.

He's saying that since both companies needed to use a proprietary wireless solution, this could have been the cause of the incompatibility, through no specific fault (or possibly it was) of either company.

[SoulScreme]

He's saying that since both companies needed to use a proprietary wireless solution, this could have been the cause of the incompatibility, through no specific fault (or possibly it was) of either company.

Well, that's just not true. Both work pretty similarly. The wireless protocol doesn't matter, you simply read the outputs of the USB device.

[Bakkster]

Well, that's just not true. Both work pretty similarly. The wireless protocol doesn't matter, you simply read the outputs of the USB device.

Agreed, but there are plenty of other reasons why this problem occurred, and why it hasn't been fixed. We can just ignore this one if you'd like.

[logicalnoise]

Well, that's just not true. Both work pretty similarly. The wireless protocol doesn't matter, you simply read the outputs of the USB device.

Except they are different BT is a highly modable protocol.

[SoulScreme]

In reality the bottom line is that the issue actually lies in how the mic works. And it's a broader issue than just the Les Paul. I'll explain.

So, the way the game works, is any controller that isn't the guitar or drums is considered to be just another controller. It is also assumed to be there to control the singer. The problem is actually that Rock Band doesn't follow PS3 controller standards. The controllers for rock band are specialized. The Les Paul functions just like any other controller would. The Rock Band controllers do not. Clearly they have controller issues. Try playing as the singer and pressing the PS button. All of the sudden the normal options come up but you lose control and the screen can only be controlled/close with the drums or Strat.

In the end, it seems that Harmonix, despite their claims, did NOT follow PS3 controller standards and that is where this stuff stems from.

[tbradshaw]

We're rehashing existing discussion here.