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KingNuclear
11-30-2007, 06:57 PM
KNuclear here, and just played fifteen games of straight online ranked expert, demolished everyone, having numerous people quit is just pathetic and a joke.

Other hardcore players on this board deserve to know the list of names of people who not only quit, half way through the song, but had the nerve to quit at the 99.9% of the song at the VERY end.

PM me if you'd like to play, really looking for a good challenge for players that can FC expert songs, or maybe miss one note.

Props to Corporal Greg skill 37, for beating me on Creep, I guess I did not time overdrive use correctly and did not end up winning, so one loss for the night.

* Please reply with your story of terrible players with bad ethics & the names of the quitters.

Names are as follows:

str8 up g xmessx

Tearful Roger

Phantomdewd

Osirisblind2001

Jesse942

Jeremyphc618

Raymond05

Chops a Plenty

Dark disaster 99

Creed Braton

Prophet of Pain

pwn3er



letherbedrock54




All of these were average, to decent players, quit because you receive ZERO penalty for quitting toward achievements . Pressing start should not even be an option in a RANKED match.


I hope HM. Patches the online play so if a player quits, it is a automatic loss + deduction of true skill.

/rant over!

Getting tired of playing 5-10 minute songs only to have players quit out!

I will never quit out on a game, if someone is better more power to them.

14-1.

MSG KNuclear or MastersatArms if you want a really good challenge.

Thank you.

**Before anyone flames, YES, I did use the search function and found a HM' Rep's official word on it**

It actually does count as a win for you in the rankings and a loss for the quitter. This isn't explicit but it does count. It does not count towards the achievement.

Still there should be further punishment.

shoombabi
11-30-2007, 08:37 PM
I'm glad I finally see someone else starting a thread about this. I posted one in the Rock Band forums and two or three on the GameFAQs forums...

It's ridiculous how many people quit on me. It's incredibly frustrating to be 50-60% through a song, and watch as I'm using overdrive that the other person just stops hitting notes. Of course, then I know what's coming: "LOADING . . . The other player has left."

I'm glad to hear the official word, I wasn't aware that the match does in fact count.

GnatRat
11-30-2007, 10:35 PM
Well, when someone quits on me I just simply jump into my dash, find that person and slap some negative XBL rep on them. That way chances are I might not get paired up against them again and some people are so rep-whores that maybe, just maybe they will think twice before doing it again. (Doubt it).

But yeah, it sucks. I got 95% thru that freaking 10 minute song (Green hills??) and poof. I wasn't ahead by much either.

xfMike
11-30-2007, 11:52 PM
Well, when someone quits on me I just simply jump into my dash, find that person and slap some negative XBL rep on them. That way chances are I might not get paired up against them again and some people are so rep-whores that maybe, just maybe they will think twice before doing it again. (Doubt it).

But yeah, it sucks. I got 95% thru that freaking 10 minute song (Green hills??) and poof. I wasn't ahead by much either.

Why not just hit the Guide button, then go to the recent players? I don't know about you, but I am lazy, and that way is much quicker than quiting out of the game completely just to give some negative feedback. Also, you don't have to wait for the game to reboot. :P

You guys can add my name to your FL (xfMike). Not sure if I'll be much of a challenge, but I wont quit out when I get my ass kicked. The only time I may leave a match early would be because: I lose internet connection, there is urgent stuff I need to take care of (family emergency stuff), or we lose power.

But, as I said, just add my GT. Also, please send a message along with your request saying your from the RB forums.

Jixzer
11-30-2007, 11:55 PM
I'll play ya KNuclear...but I suck...so if you ever want a "non-challenge"...look me up (Wutdaflux). LOL I'm just too casual a player (wife, kids, job keep me from playing as much as I'd like).

I haven't played a single online match outside of a few coops. Sorry to hear this is happening, but if it's any consolation, I know I suck, and even knowing that, I would never quit a match, even if I'm getting stomped. It's just not sporting.

KingNuclear
12-01-2007, 01:27 AM
Posted this at around 5:00 am last night so I did not expect so many replies in such a few short hours :)


Yeah anyone definitely add me as a friend to play in Quick play, or non ranked, I'm a nice guy when its not ranked :p Always got the headset on, ready to chat it up.


I would really like to keep this as professional as possible, and keep stating your negative experiences with your list of player names that are too coward-like to meet there unsatisfying demise of facing defeat.

Also I am taking the time out to avoid all players who quit out, it really limits me who I can and can't play, not to many people online </3.


-KNuclear-

Jonny.

Look for the character with Pink and white spikes with a pink tank top on, character glows online also, due to completing endless set list. ^^

Damaged
12-01-2007, 01:43 AM
Wow.. you guys take this online stuff pretty seriously.

If you get the win and the other guy gets the loss, what's the point of more punishment? The only reason to play is to get the "W", what does it matter if the other guy forfeits?:confused:

I'm not criticizing, I just don't get it.

KingNuclear
12-01-2007, 01:46 AM
Well I will be more than happy to break it down for you.


Even if we are giving the other player the benefit of the doubt of having little to <b> NO </b> self representation, and integrity it is just plain pathetic that your unskilled opponent can't finish the song to face defeat.


It took me well over two hours to get 5 lousy wins in a row, when an individual leaves the game session, the victor does not get a win that counts toward achievements.

With that being said, the true skill factor value is also not taken into consideration or effect.


Player A is a trues kill of 50.

Player B is a 40.


Player A starts to lose, he quits out to stop losing true skill ranking from happening.


Player B is left with nothing but an unwelcoming screen that tells him the other player has left the game session.


Very discouraging after awhile.


-Nuke-

SkipWankman
12-01-2007, 01:50 AM
Wow.. you guys take this online stuff pretty seriously.

If you get the win and the other guy gets the loss, what's the point of more punishment? The only reason to play is to get the "W", what does it matter if the other guy forfeits?:confused:

I'm not criticizing, I just don't get it.

They're saying the wins don't count towards the achievements for X360. It counts as a win, but not the "Win 10 online ranked matches in a row" or whatever the achievements may be.

tbradshaw
12-01-2007, 03:40 AM
I would like a system sort of like the way that World of Warcraft handles "deserters". You get a very temporary ban from online play. Quit on someone? You can sit out for 15 minutes. If you quit for a legitimate reason then it's rare that a 15 break would be a problem at all.

KazerX
12-01-2007, 04:01 AM
They might have a bad connection like me. I have crappy DSL from Verizon. I get disconnected a lot when I play the Band Quick Play online or any other online game for that matter. Takes me about 10 minutes to get connected again. Wish I could use cable again but I was banned because I downloaded too much. They don't even say that there is a limit on their site.

sleepbox
12-01-2007, 04:28 AM
Hey OP, you're pretty self-righteous/persecuted to even create a thread like this aren't you? I mean, quitters are lame and all but it's just a game.

GattzDaBerzerk
12-01-2007, 04:46 AM
Dont hate the player, hate the game (Can't beleive i just said that)

anyway im decent on guitar and learning drums (>_<) hard as ever th0. wanna play, hit me up:
Da_L33tness
NEED MORE ONLINE PLAYERS!!!

tucsonovernite
12-01-2007, 04:54 AM
Although there is something about the style of your posts that irks me I must adknowledge that yes if someone is playing RANKED EXPERT and they quit out that yes that is pathetic and I do kinda feel bad for ya....must be really annoying after a few times

TrunkMonkey
12-01-2007, 06:12 AM
Although there is something about the style of your posts that irks me I must adknowledge that yes if someone is playing RANKED EXPERT and they quit out that yes that is pathetic and I do kinda feel bad for ya....must be really annoying after a few times

Yeah same here......something about the way you come across.......just QUIT YOUR WHINING AND PLAY THE GAME...... ITS A GAME.

espher
12-01-2007, 06:16 AM
Hey OP, you're pretty self-righteous/persecuted to even create a thread like this aren't you? I mean, quitters are lame and all but it's just a game.

I take it you've never been involved in any sort of competitive gameplay environment at length. :p

I come from an FPS/MMORPG background, and fortunately you aren't going to have people making excuses when they drop from a game like this, but this sort of thing is annoying as hell when you are trying to take part in a competitive activity. :)

Frederf
12-01-2007, 06:40 AM
It's a game.

I hate this argument. Sure it's just real people doing real irritating things that have real emotional/time consequences to other real people who paid real money and have invested real seconds of their finite lives... but right, it's just a game. Something being online or a game doesn't make it any less real than the time, money, effort, and emotion put into it.

I have to LOL at the "official" part of the thread title though. Kind of an "Official... because it makes it seem cooler and because I said so" official. Best of luck on your cause though, righteous one.

Hopefully this kind of vigilante behavior won't be necessary once HMX patches their game to the point that disruptive online behavior is more trouble than it's worth. Perhaps both contestants should get paid for completing the song online or some incentive to finish.

Does anyone know what negative XBL feedback does? I've never had it explained to me proper. Does it reduce the chances of them being player matched with you again or everyone?

P.S. I think XB360 achievements will be the downfall of gaming. Where's the "Good loser" achievement for losing 5 songs and not quitting?

sleepbox
12-01-2007, 07:49 AM
Ya? Well, I've been gaming since '83...gaming online since about '99 and yea, quitters suck, especially on team-based crack addict FPS like Team Fortress 2!

I dunno "black listing" people just seems a bit over the top...keeping people in mind that suck and ridiculing them later for it seems like the much more personal and effective remedy.

KingNuclear
12-01-2007, 08:52 AM
I take it you've never been involved in any sort of competitive gameplay environment at length. :p

I come from an FPS/MMORPG background, and fortunately you aren't going to have people making excuses when they drop from a game like this, but this sort of thing is annoying as hell when you are trying to take part in a competitive activity. :)

Thank you Espher for getting to the Bang before I had to chance to reply to the Buck.

I also come from a three year hardcore background from Final Fantasy XI MMORPG with a maxed out character etc. etc. etc. I expect a lot from people playing ranked expert online, and when players fail to even complete a song , I am sure I can speak for everyone it is extremely annoying" just a game or not"


I'm driving in a Nascar 500 race, and my opponent just stops in the middle of the track, so I guess everyone has to stop also and it is over automatically?

Everyone can, pardon the (French) ***** about something, but this is a legitimate problem at hand.

Thank you everyone for your time, and even the moderator's consideration for replying to this important topic.


-Nuke-

logicalnoise
12-01-2007, 09:02 AM
I've been reporting anyone who quits(4 out of 7 last night) less there are some legitimate toems when your connectioon craps out. I used have similar problems(but I stayed off online gaming). I also send them a messege explaining how they are a sore loser and I'll never see them again since their on my avoid list. Anywasy here's some for the list:

Jeremyphc618

Raymond05

there was two more but xbox.com doesn't show which ones I gave negative feedback to and these are the only 2 I'm sure of. Anyways I have actually met a lot of nice people online especially in band quickplay. The system is flawed but isn't broke IMO.

KingNuclear
12-01-2007, 09:04 AM
Does anyone know what negative XBL feedback does? I've never had it explained to me proper. Does it reduce the chances of them being player matched with you again or everyone?




I will explain it for you.


When one individual receives over twenty negative feedbacks in a short period of time, ex: one week. *possible grammar misuse*

Microsoft representatives put this person under review and investigates the situation.
For example, I played in MLG for Gears of War for money, and taped every single online game with my recording devices linked from the 360 to the PC. With that being said, the INSTANT I viewed someone (glitching) even the slightest bit, I sent the video footage to Epic games & Microsoft support, they investigated and banned the person from Xbox live.

~This was in a competitive match private room , non player~

Also for my time and effort, they mail you free Xbox live membership cards for helping them clean out the trash.

Xzyliac
12-01-2007, 09:33 AM
Again I blame the winning streak Achievements.

luminary pants
12-01-2007, 10:44 AM
Either way it is annoying.
I play online a decent amount under luminary pants.
I haven't played the songs enough though, so I make a few stupid mistakes, and my strat is broken so the solos are a little trickier then could be. But I still high 90&#37; every song

Lucent Beam
12-01-2007, 10:47 AM
I've never won a song because the person ALWAYS quits on me.
I however have lost a ton, because I never quit.

MorningThief581
12-01-2007, 11:34 AM
I quit early once because my guitar just started missing downstrums. We were less than halfway into the song and I had no shot of winning because I couldn't get a combo going at all... so I quit and sent the other guy an apology message explaining what happened. Aside from that, I've taken all my losses (probably 4 or 5) despite the fact that people quit on me all the time. The way I see it, if you can't accept losing and you consistently get beat in expert matches, you should be playing at a lower difficulty.

KingNuclear
12-01-2007, 11:53 AM
Adding Creed Braton

and Prophet of Pain to the list,


Halfway through Highway Star my favorite song, Creed quit out because he was terrible.


Sad part is Jesse942 Quit on me over two games total, and go look, he is #1 NUMBER ONE on Bass leaderboards, something sad, I think so?


The leaderboards need to ATLEAST show

how many games a player has won, has lost, and the total number of quit/disconnects.

-KNuke-

&

-MastersatArms-

I don't mind if someone leaves within a minute, but 99&#37; of the song is over is complete garbage!

Xzyliac
12-01-2007, 12:00 PM
I sometimes wonder the ratio of people who actually had to quit/lost connection/whatever to idiots who just wuss out.

Not defending anyone. Just curious.

capnhowdy69
12-01-2007, 12:05 PM
And here I was thinking, "man, I should just start quitting when I'm losing too so I can be the bestest player ever lolz!"... Seriously. Every match I play that I'm winning I get quit on. If you have EVER quit because you are losing? You're a douchebag. You ruin the entire premise of the online rank system and you obviously suck. I JUST lost my first ranked match tonight. like 4 in a row to the same dude actually... didn't quit once.. my score should reflect my skill. Not assclowns ability to quit when I do actually win.

capnhowdy69
12-01-2007, 12:08 PM
Again I blame the winning streak Achievements.

I actually got that achievement the first time i played ranked thanks to some guy who was hitting about 6-10% of each song. He never quit though, gotta love him :D

Frederf
12-01-2007, 12:20 PM
I actually got that achievement the first time i played ranked thanks to some guy who was hitting about 6-10% of each song. He never quit though, gotta love him :D

Maybe he was a Saint throwing the game on purpose so you could get the achievement and be free of its clutches for the rest of online play; a sort of silent online vigilante who wears a mask and skin tight rubber suit.

While it's certainly noble to finish a losing game and not noble to quit early cuz' ja not winnin', does the game actually reward you at all for finishing a losing game besides nominating you for a spot on the cover of Time Magazine?

capnhowdy69
12-01-2007, 12:22 PM
Maybe he was a Saint throwing the game on purpose so you could get the achievement and be free of its clutches for the rest of online play; a sort of silent online vigilante who wears a mask and skin tight rubber suit.

While it's certainly noble to finish a losing game and not noble to quit early cuz' ja not winnin', does the game actually reward you at all for finishing a losing game besides nominating you for a spot on the cover of Time Magazine?
The reward is that people don't think you are an assclown. Because if you care enough about what online people think about your crappy online score... Chances are you care if they think you are a douchebag and refuse to play with you.

Frederf
12-01-2007, 12:28 PM
Ok, then that's kind of a problem. Relying on people to behave nobly online as its own reward is rather setting oneself up for failure.

Completing a song online should give your character cash say $100 for winning and $30 for losing (so long as you complete it) or a special prize for participating in 100 online sessions (win, lose, or coop).

KingNuclear
12-01-2007, 02:11 PM
Dark disaster 99... we both FC'ed I'm so sick by flyleaf, he lost by less than 100 points due to not using overdrive on the triple notes , quit as the song ended... Pretty shocked, good player, poor sport, doesn't like to lose.

fusion_kb
12-01-2007, 02:58 PM
I also give negative feedback if someone quits in any ranked game towards the end of the song. In contrast, i was doing some ranked drums today and got a phone call. Didnt want to be an ass (i was winning by only 2k) so I just stopped playing for the call for about 2 minutes and let him win. I think he was suprised when I came back near the end of the song though.

My favorite thing is beating someone once, then connecting to them again right after, almost beating them again and they quit. One guy did that to me, then sent me a privat message that just said "douche".

Hopefully they will adjust the way the ranking boards work to reflect this, or atleast frown upon it.

KingNuclear
12-01-2007, 04:46 PM
Chops a Plenty.

Looser.

quiter

KingNuclear
12-01-2007, 05:45 PM
letherbedrock54

GnatRat
12-01-2007, 10:39 PM
Let me just add into what I said earlier about the negative feedback. I do just jump in via the guide, but I also don't give negative feedback if someone drops within a reasonable amount of time. And yes, by you giving someone negative feedback gives XBL a less chance that you will match up with that person. (Atleast that's what I've read)
/**Begin Rant**/
What really ticked me off was the clown that dropped 95&#37; thru Green Grass and High Tides...that's about 8 minutes wasted for nothing. Well, ok...maybe a little bit of practice, but jeez that just irritated me.

We are talking about Ranked Matches here, and maybe they (HMX) should patch it so you can't just drop out. That way if someone drops, we would know it was a legit reason. (IE Power loss, Connection problems). Remember, it's a competition. How would it look if all the teams the Patriots ran the score up on just said "Fudge it" and walk off the field? After all...it's "Just A Game" right? Ask yourself...You just plopped $200 smackers on this game to enjoy it and someone just dropped because you were winning. Not too enjoyable that way, atleast not to me.

Winning isn't everything, I know that from fact. I've lost quite a few, not only in this game but all other competitive games I've played. The difference is, I played until the end to loose and not quit halfway through. Graceful winners are nice to see around, but graceful loosers are even better because you know this person has the right attitude.
/**End Of Rant**/

BubbaC
12-01-2007, 10:56 PM
How would it look if all the teams the Patriots ran the score up on just said "Fudge it" and walk off the field?


::AHEM:: We (they) do not run the score up on anyone. i forget which sunday night personality said it, but... it is not our job to not score. it is the other teams responsibility to stop us. if they don't want the score that high.. stop us. like the colts and eagles did. but thats so off topic..
but the same can be said for all the quitters. in al the games. i have been beaten in many games. by lots of corny players. who use exploits. i see them through to the end. because of the above said. if i don't like it. find a way to stop it. or lose. don't throw in the towel and quit. rocky never quit!!! he lost like a man!

unfortunately owning up to your actions is a lost art these days.

plus in this game people can't be corny. there's really no exploits unless some one figured out how to use macros. and then spent all the time programing macros for each song. which in and of it self is deserving of a reward. the reward of "pathetic loser who needs a life, because spending 150 hours programming macros for a game that doesn't matter in the grand scope of things is just sad" award.

Grymm
12-02-2007, 12:10 AM
I'm not trying to seem like an ass or anything, but just out of observation I find it ironic that you have "If you plan on missing more than one note, just quit." in your sig.

Again, just an observation. :)

parasite
12-02-2007, 12:25 AM
Before I knew what was happening, I was playing against someone online at the expert level on Run To The Hills. I'm not a hardcore gamer, so I usually play on medium and do very well. Even though I was getting my ass kicked during this song, I never thought of quitting. I figure it's good practice for me, if nothing else. I remember playing TigerWoods on XBL and if your oppenent quit, you'd automatically win the round and they'd recieve negative points toward their total score. Maybe EA could implement a system like that with RB?

blue_dragonzero
12-02-2007, 12:29 AM
Before I knew what was happening, I was playing against someone online at the expert level on Run To The Hills. I'm not a hardcore gamer, so I usually play on medium and do very well. Even though I was getting my ass kicked during this song, I never thought of quitting. I figure it's good practice for me, if nothing else. I remember playing TigerWoods on XBL and if your oppenent quit, you'd automatically win the round and they'd recieve negative points toward their total score. Maybe EA could implement a system like that with RB?

Negative points in golf is good :D

Yeah that kind of system would be much better though.

parasite
12-02-2007, 12:31 AM
smartass...:rolleyes: you knew what I meant....lol

KingNuclear
12-02-2007, 05:55 AM
I'm not trying to seem like an ass or anything, but just out of observation I find it ironic that you have "If you plan on missing more than one note, just quit." in your sig.

Again, just an observation. :)

After all the people who quit on me, I decided it would be a great quote to set, also while drinking my friends came up with the quote for me, Fear the Pink, due to about 40+ wins in a row.


Also we get credit for quitters so be my guest.


Hope I don't get matched up vs. Wulfe79 though : * (

lol

-KNuclear-

KipBond
01-03-2008, 01:24 AM
Let me just add into what I said earlier about the negative feedback. I do just jump in via the guide, but I also don't give negative feedback if someone drops within a reasonable amount of time. And yes, by you giving someone negative feedback gives XBL a less chance that you will match up with that person. (Atleast that's what I've read)

Can someone explain to me how to do this? Or has something changed that makes this not work anymore? When I go into the list of recent people I've played, I only see the ones that have completed the songs. The ones who have quit on me do not show up in the list. I'd love to "avoid" these quitters.

dayers
01-03-2008, 03:27 AM
I don't see the point in this list. I mean, I'm not going to run to my computer and look this list up when I get matched up with someone and make sure they aren't on here

jordan15b
01-03-2008, 05:21 AM
Um i really don't think you should make threads about specific people thats not a very good idea and might get you banned.

KillAutumn
01-03-2008, 05:33 AM
Yeah fo sho.

Course I did get negative feedback because after being owned by this guy on Hard Vocals 4 times, I stopped doing ranked matches and went to quick play...He sent me a message of "****en *****"...And I had more negative feedback. I didn't stop in a middle of a song, I just...stopped playing.

I didn't peice together I shorted him his acheivement till just now. ><

Coupe
01-03-2008, 06:04 AM
I was going to post a lengthy passage about not everyone taking gaming so seriously etc... but you know what, I can't be bothered.

If you wanna take it that seriously, then do so, but its a bit sad. I've been left negative feedback for dropping out of online play on Perfect Dark Zero back when I first got the 360 - and you know what, it was because my internet connection died - nothing to do with being a sore loser or anything like that.

Have any of you even thought about that? Maybe people's connections are dropping, maybe Xbox Live is kicking them out (don't tell me its never happened to you), maybe they had a power cut. Maybe some idiot came into the room and turned the machine off.

You can't just start giving people bad rep's just because they left the song you were playing - there could be many reasons. If someone left me negs, then I'd just leave it straight back for them. At the end of the day its a GAME. Its supposed to be FUN. If you wanna be that serious about it, go join a proper band and enter a battle of the bands.

Omnitamer
01-03-2008, 06:16 AM
I don't play online very much especially not ranked matches but it was frustrating trying to get the streak achievement with people quiting. Anyway, if you want to take me on my GT is "Omnitamer" can beat everything on guitar on expert with at least four stars and only have "next to you" to finish the solo drum tour on hard promise I won't quit if/when I lose :)

Kinnetik
01-03-2008, 07:32 AM
No offense to anyone in this thread who considers themselves 'ultra' competitive.

When you make threads like this *****ing about online play, you really do little more than discourage people who don't play online much to play more or even at all. Honestly for me it all comes across as a little elitist.

It's probably just because for me I have no intention of ever doing the duel stuff or whatever because I just have fun playing the songs and don't need to feed my ego with this game.

That's what FPS's are for...

KipBond
01-03-2008, 11:08 AM
I'm not ultra competitive -- but I like to play -- and I like to try to win. So, when I'm winning, it's very irritating when the other person quits. So, then I am forced to quit the song I was playing mid-stream, have to go back out, and wait a while longer to start a new song. I play to have fun -- it's not fun quitting in the middle of the song and having to wait longer to hopefully find someone that won't quit on the next song. I don't care about "reputation" or "ranking" or whatever... but I was under the impression that the XBL "Avoid Player" would make it less likely that I had to play the quitter again -- which is what I want.

Oh, and I've never had someone that was winning quit -- I guess they all just happen to have good connections? But, more than half the time when someone is losing they quit. And - you can tell they are about to quit when they stop playing for a few seconds prior to "disconnecting".

cpl11787
01-03-2008, 11:11 AM
what usually happens to me, when I notice it, is that first the person stops playing notes, then I'm no longer able to play. I look to figure out where he'd gone, says they are no longer online, I check back about 30 seconds later, there they are, playing Rock Band already.

How are you able to get disconnected and get back to playing the game in a 30 second time span?

v0lum3
01-03-2008, 11:32 AM
You can't just start giving people bad rep's just because they left the song you were playing - there could be many reasons.

Yes, you can, that's why there is an option when you leave feedback called "quit early" for people who QUIT EARLY.

If someone just had an accidental disconnect (which I'm sure actually happens about 1 out of 10 times) then they won't get a lot of bad feedback because it will only happen once in a while. Bad rep is going to hurt the 13 year old in his mom's house who quits every game he starts to lose, they're the ones who the bad rep will compound on, not the poor kid who's internet accidentally died on him. And if you have a problem where your internet consistently dies then don't play ranked and call your Internet Provider.



If someone left me negs, then I'd just leave it straight back for them.

And since rep is anonymous there's no way for you to see who left negative rep for you.

cpl11787
01-03-2008, 04:33 PM
Well I was having fun today, winning and losing combined.
I took a little break, came back about an hour later and started to play again.
I was paired up against LOONATIK5, two times. The first time, even though it was about 30 seconds into the song, and neither of of was really racking up any points he quit, I put him as an avoided player. But guess who i played against right after that, the same person. This time though he waited till about the last minute of the song. After this one I sent him a message saying something along the lines, quit quitting, your wasting my time, and I still have not gotten any kind of reply.
Then the next person I played against also quit SpiffyHunted1 Played for about 9/16th of the song, and then decided to "let his brother play a different game", which might have been true, but he could have still finished the song. I asked him if he quit for a reason to let me know, and here is what he said, "Cause i have a life, and my brother wants to play, and you....." he kind of mumbles there at the end, but I could maybe make out *****. So he insults me, because i asked him why he quit on me. Cool guy.

KNuclear
01-03-2008, 04:49 PM
Pretty impressed someone bumped this thread, brought a smile to my face to read some of the replies.

Or a grin :p



-Nuke-

BoogieTunes
01-03-2008, 05:15 PM
Wow.

Y'all need to better prioritize yourselves, if you're this worried over online play for a freakin' TOY.

cybermousey
01-03-2008, 05:32 PM
**Before anyone flames, YES, I did use the search function and found a HM' Rep's official word on it**

It actually does count as a win for you in the rankings and a loss for the quitter. This isn't explicit but it does count. It does not count towards the achievement.

Still there should be further punishment.

Yes me and my girlfriend are having the same problem with people quiting early. I agree, there should be further punishment. Especially towards these people quiting early for achievement sake. IT'S ANNOYING.

Jimmik
01-03-2008, 05:55 PM
Cmon man, don't post these player's names on here. Just give them negative feedback and move along. I dislike it as much as anyone when someone quits on me, but really, go to Band Quick Play and you won't have to deal with this crap anymore.

Frederf
01-03-2008, 07:24 PM
Cmon man, don't post these player's names on here. Just give them negative feedback and move along. I dislike it as much as anyone when someone quits on me, but really, go to Band Quick Play and you won't have to deal with this crap anymore.

Terrorists win? That's like saying don't complain about people crashing into you on the highway, you best idle your car in the garage.

darknessmoon
01-03-2008, 07:41 PM
I don't like it when people come in here and state "it's just a game" and "to not take it too seriously." It's not necessarily that people are taking it so serious cuz they have nothing else to do, or no life, or whatever you want to say. The whole thing is that it's PART of the game. A part that some people look forward to, and a part that is meant to provide enjoyment.

With that being said, let's take a few factors into consideration: I paid money for my 360, paid for the Rockband Special Edition, pay for my internet to be up and running so that I may enjoy some of the features found in many games that I also pay for. So, when I join a RANKED match online to COMPETE, how am I supposed to NOT get ticked off when someone quits out on me simply because they don't want to lose? How am I supposed to not not get upset when early quitters are ruining MY enjoyment of the game? If people don't want to lose nor compete, then they should NOT play online RANKED matches!

I agree with penalizing early quitters accordingly as a way to make those people stop playing online or to make them reconsider their ways of playing. Again, it boils down to people intentionally ruining MY enjoyment of the game that I shelled out the same amount of money for as they did.

Here's something else for many people to think about: If you paid a lot of money to go see a sports team, and then your team suddenly starts to play sloppy or you can tell that they have pretty much given up because they are losing, would you not get upset?

If you play in a team, and you're giving it your all despite you losing, but you notice your team mates giving up, would you not get upset?

Frederf
01-03-2008, 08:20 PM
I totally agree on the "it's just a game" line. One of the stupider phrases ever written.

What is clear is that the game is designed in a manner where desired online behavior conflicts with typical human behavior. Realistically people will be impulsive and selfish when given a shiny fast-paced video game with anonymity and no consequences to their actions.

The most positive way to affect change in behavior is to reward good behavior. If you finish a losing song you should be rewarded for noble behavior somehow. Maybe loser picks next song, gets cash for their character, 10 fans, "Honor" points.

dayers
01-03-2008, 08:38 PM
If you are tired of people quitting ranked matches, why don't you go to quick play. I just don't see whats so hard about that? Is it because you want this achievement? If so, what does that achievement get you? 20 point? and what do those point get you? Anything?
Rock band isn't the only game that this happens in. I figured people would be used to this kind of stuff now. You are asking for the game makers to change how someone acts, and I just don't think thats possible.
I know it blows when someone quits, but your crying here isn't going to make things better. Just suck it up.
Oh, and I still don't understand why you have this list of people. I mean when I get matched up with someone, I'm not going to run to the computer and see if the name is on the list.

Geez....

Bearclaw
01-03-2008, 09:42 PM
If you are tired of people quitting ranked matches, why don't you go to quick play. I just don't see whats so hard about that? Is it because you want this achievement? If so, what does that achievement get you? 20 point? and what do those point get you? Anything?
Rock band isn't the only game that this happens in. I figured people would be used to this kind of stuff now. You are asking for the game makers to change how someone acts, and I just don't think thats possible.
I know it blows when someone quits, but your crying here isn't going to make things better. Just suck it up.
Oh, and I still don't understand why you have this list of people. I mean when I get matched up with someone, I'm not going to run to the computer and see if the name is on the list.

Geez....
The idea to playing online multiplayer is to compete with other people and enjoy yourself doing it, regardless of the outcome. Just playing single player defeats the purpose, there is no competition or enjoyment from playing with others, just sitting in your family room, only playing half a game. While I agree that naming them on a forum is pretty pointless, people who quit because they are losing should not be allowed lenience. If they don't want to lose, maybe they shouldn't be the ones playing online. There is no reason people who play for fun should have their experience foiled by some sore losers. Nobody gains from quitting, only two people who lose enjoyment result.

RyBu
01-04-2008, 12:56 AM
Haha god dammit why is this thread back?!?! Don't bump Nukes threads or as I like to call them "KNukes E-Peen Boosters"

(<3)

haha even Nuke is wondering why the hell this was bumped, who was trolling back THAT FAR?! Bottom line, people will quit, it sucks, but it's a fact. PERIOD!!!!!!

(ps Nuke i want to stab your FACE for having that picture as your avatar haha!)

Hanover
01-04-2008, 11:39 AM
I think if there are more than three drop-offs within an hour, it should penalize you. In this way if you are having problems with your connection, you're not going to immediately get thrown to the sharks and you know you shouldnt really try playing competitively again until your connection improves.

MrMet2087
01-04-2008, 11:45 AM
i must admit i quit online when people pick anything below medium, cause for me thats below acceptable for my skill level

KipBond
01-04-2008, 12:35 PM
So, here's a new level of jerkdom...

I was playing Tug Of War on Medium, and came up against "Anti HERO x3h". He destroyed me. Next quick matchup... "Anti HERO x3h" again! He beat me... but it was close. Note I never quit. Next quick matchup... "Anti HERO x3h" again!! Unbelievable. This time, though, it's a song I've played a few times so I'm much better competition. About 75% through the song, I'm way ahead (green bar all the way on my side), and he quits!! Un-freaking-believable. Thankfully, since we had played 2 complete games, he showed up in my "latest players" list, so I could mark him as "avoid" and leave "quit early" review.

So... then I look him up online:
http://live.xbox.com/en-US/profile/profile.aspx?pp=0&GamerTag=Anti+HERO+x3h

He's beat the solo tour on easy, medium, and hard. But he's competing with me on medium. And then quits when I'm beating him, after he already won the 2 previous matches against me. Very, extremely, irritating.

cpl11787
01-04-2008, 04:09 PM
I hear people saying how that the person they play against is on medium, and kick you butts. Yes it is possible that that person could be down playing from having the expert achievement and what not, but it is also possible that maybe a little brother is trying to sneak onto his older brothers game and try to play, and it just happens that he's good at it, but doesn't want to go up for fear of loosing.

I don't know, I'm just saying that this is a possibility.

ghost24
01-07-2008, 07:06 PM
I was finally going to get the achievement but that was until I met

UnmercifulSlayr

This guy pissed me off, I was playing Kiss - Detroit Rock City, and albeit I suck at the first part but finally pulled through. Right at the end, Big Rock Ending, he just quit as soon as he saw that I overcame him. I was so mad so I continued playing, next match, game connected me to him again. This time it was Don't Fear The Reaper, and right at the middle, where I had a 20,000 lead, he quits.

Avoid this guy, he will just quit if you are really murdering him. There really should be some kind of punishment.

KingNuclear
01-12-2008, 06:35 AM
Haha god dammit why is this thread back?!?! Don't bump Nukes threads or as I like to call them "KNukes E-Peen Boosters"

(<3)

haha even Nuke is wondering why the hell this was bumped, who was trolling back THAT FAR?! Bottom line, people will quit, it sucks, but it's a fact. PERIOD!!!!!!

(ps Nuke i want to stab your FACE for having that picture as your avatar haha!)


How bout this new Avatar Ry <3?

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a151/JonnyMentz/0109081938.jpg

100&#37; 99% 99% 99% (I'm a nub, playing on friends TV didn't use his calibration settings)
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100% 100% 100% 100%
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http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a151/JonnyMentz/0106082203.jpg

close up for R. <3! so he can see


1.75k++

cuddie
01-12-2008, 07:07 AM
98? Tsk tsk tsk. Although you do have the hardest part of the song.


BUT! Still better than I do on the guitar. lol

Either way, I'm assuming this is 7 pages of trolling+flaming so I didn't bother to read it.
A blacklist is great, I hate it when people leave in the middle of a ranked match because they are getting spanked. When I was starting out and I got my ass handed to me I would always stay until the end and congratulate the better player.

Now that I'm on the distributing end of the spanking it annoys me when people quit.
Good thread.

Edit: good original purpose for the thread

MrSinister222
01-12-2008, 11:05 AM
KNuclear here, and just played fifteen games of straight online ranked expert, demolished everyone, having numerous people quit is just pathetic and a joke.

Other hardcore players on this board deserve to know the list of names of people who not only quit, half way through the song, but had the nerve to quit at the 99.9% of the song at the VERY end.

PM me if you'd like to play, really looking for a good challenge for players that can FC expert songs, or maybe miss one note.

Props to Corporal Greg skill 37, for beating me on Creep, I guess I did not time overdrive use correctly and did not end up winning, so one loss for the night.

* Please reply with your story of terrible players with bad ethics & the names of the quitters.

Names are as follows:

str8 up g xmessx

Tearful Roger

Phantomdewd

Osirisblind2001

Jesse942

Jeremyphc618

Raymond05

Chops a Plenty

Dark disaster 99

Creed Braton

Prophet of Pain

pwn3er



letherbedrock54




All of these were average, to decent players, quit because you receive ZERO penalty for quitting toward achievements . Pressing start should not even be an option in a RANKED match.


I hope HM. Patches the online play so if a player quits, it is a automatic loss + deduction of true skill.

/rant over!

Getting tired of playing 5-10 minute songs only to have players quit out!

I will never quit out on a game, if someone is better more power to them.

14-1.

MSG KNuclear or MastersatArms if you want a really good challenge.

Thank you.

**Before anyone flames, YES, I did use the search function and found a HM' Rep's official word on it**

It actually does count as a win for you in the rankings and a loss for the quitter. This isn't explicit but it does count. It does not count towards the achievement.

Still there should be further punishment.



I know it might seem a little crazy... a little nutty.... just a little zany... but SOME people play this game to have FUN................. its shocking i know......... i mean seriously who has time to have any fun when youve spent the past 8 hours meticulously playing expert songs against people online trying as hard as you can to hit EVERY note in the song, just so you can have the knowledge that you are so much better then that person... AND they must REALLY suck AND be *** if they're gonna quit before i drive them into the ground with my amazing playing skills............................................ ...................................
.......................

ask yourself this, who is really more of a pathetic freak? the person that quits playing after some ******* plays any expert song 100%? OR the person who spends all day online beating people and songs at 100% and then actually writes down the names of the people who quit his game before it ended so that he can then come online and TRANSCRIBE that list onto a digital form for all the rest of you freaks to acknowledge and kiss ass to AND pisses and moans about it in subsequent responses.

KING NUCLEAR: since your so ****ing awesome, WHY DONT YOU PLAY A REAL INSTRUMENT! instead of *****ing about people who dont play 100% of every song on the games hardest difficulty you ****in freak

At least im at work and cant leave even if i wanted to, otherwise id never take the time to actually respond to this kind of insane bull****. unfortunately i am and i feel obliged to attempt a dose of reality, the only difference between my rant is yours, is i know noones gonna actually walk away feeling like they actually learned or accomplised anything here.

Beating someone on expert 100% is like winning the special olympics, even though you won, you're still a ******.

KipBond
01-12-2008, 11:38 AM
ask yourself this, who is really more of a pathetic freak? the person that quits playing after some ******* plays any expert song 100%?

Why do they quit? Unless there is a good reason besides the fact that they don't want to lose, then the quitter is the pathetic one.

Nilsen581
01-12-2008, 11:51 AM
People who say "It's just a game"...

You're right it is...and yes it is a rythm/music game...

but still there are competitive modes...and to competitive people it's quite frustrating to feel like you did everything right...and because of a weird little "glitch" or problem you didn't get what you worked hard for...You feel wronged...

Now I really don't play too many score duels or tug of wars because I can do expert on guitar on most of the songs but not in the high 90&#37; areas....and I can only do drums on Expert for a small group of songs...Hard on a good amount and Medium on the rest...

But in other games...I am real competitive...and when someone can join my game get half way through an a** whoopin and then quit out w/o any consequance (sp) to their rank and no reward to mine...it's frustrating...

because as a competitive person, you're trying to Win to build up that rank...and get those acheivements...it's not the whole point of playing (it is fun)...but it's a lot of it.

TheDoc46
01-12-2008, 12:13 PM
I'll play ya KNuclear...but I suck...so if you ever want a "non-challenge"...look me up (Wutdaflux). LOL I'm just too casual a player (wife, kids, job keep me from playing as much as I'd like).

I haven't played a single online match outside of a few coops. Sorry to hear this is happening, but if it's any consolation, I know I suck, and even knowing that, I would never quit a match, even if I'm getting stomped. It's just not sporting.

add me up yo Rocker Racer :) i play drum..learning on hard mode..juz like u, casual rockerz

id: thedoc46

WorldWarJack
01-12-2008, 01:23 PM
a lot of you need to get over yourselves. the "it's just a game" argument makes perfect sense. In the grand scheme of things does it really matter if someone quits on you? no. Does it even matter if Rock Band even existed? no. It's just some device to which we can waste our times with and enjoy ourselves. It's of no consequence if we could never play the game again. So why spend so much time and energy crying over it? So what if people quit on you (for whatever reason). shake it off. And for those of you who prefer to gripe and name call, shame on you. I don't know why these people quit, but I do know that you're acting like a child. And if you are a child, well then that would make sense.

KipBond
01-12-2008, 01:35 PM
In the grand scheme of things does it really matter if someone quits on you?

In the grand scheme of things, we're all just worm dirt, so nothing matters at all. But for now, a good friendly competition without quitters makes me a tad bit happier while I'm not being consumed by existential ponderings of my future demise into non-existence.

mercuryshadow09
01-12-2008, 02:56 PM
The point is don't play ranked match's if ur gonna quit!!!

Tdk_Samurai
01-12-2008, 02:58 PM
don't you still get the win if they quit?

KingNuclear
01-12-2008, 03:09 PM
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Still waiting for Ry to comment. lol

GreyFoxx
01-12-2008, 03:54 PM
I have a question. If the other person quit it counts as a win for you right? Does that mean that you affects your True Skill rating? If it does then I dont see the point. You still get the win. The only bad thing is that It doesn't count towards your achivement.

I remember when I tried to get it I had 1 more point to go when I had 3 people quit on me. Then the very next match I lost. :(
It was frustrating but eventually I got the achievement. I do agree that they should make it count towards the achievement.

I get about 25&#37; quit on me and I dont really care about it any more. However if it doesn't count towards my True Skill, then I see a problem that they need to change and I would have a lot of negative feedback needing to be left on people.

KingNuclear
01-13-2008, 12:15 AM
Yes, you get a win.

Yes, you get trueskill.

anubis211
01-13-2008, 03:00 AM
Although there is something about the style of your posts that irks me I must adknowledge that yes if someone is playing RANKED EXPERT and they quit out that yes that is pathetic and I do kinda feel bad for ya....must be really annoying after a few times

It bothers me too. You seem to be letting everything thats wrong with the halo and madden culture invade a game which as far as I'm concerned only has versus modes tacked on to satisfy an angry elitist minority. We all know co-op mode is what puts butts in the seats.

Besides umm, you're trying to better play a fake instrument than another player? I can barely take myself seriously when I play this game, I would never claim to better than somebody else. As far as I'm concerned whoever is having the most fun making an ass of themselves is the true winner. To each his own I guess. But I wouldn't go into that versus neighborhood without expecting to meet some real scum..

Use your overdrive to SAVE your fellow man, not finish him off!! :(

Exayle
01-13-2008, 03:44 AM
Look for the character with Pink and white spikes with a pink tank top on, character glows online also, due to completing endless set list. ^^

Pretty sure the "glowing character" thing is a load of BS. I've completed the Endless Setlist, and everyone I play with says there's no difference of the characters [aside from the icon turning platinum/silver]. Anyone who says you "glow" in game is likely screwing with you.

REICHLEIN
01-13-2008, 05:23 AM
I'm going to start by saying something about real instruments versus Rock Band. This is as close as you can get to playing "real instruments," in fact, I would almost go as far as to say that the instruments in Rock Band are in fact "real" instruments. When you play a note on them, the game makes a sound, yes, it's a pre-recorded sound, but it's still a sound. Also, is not the vocalist truly singing?? I play both Rock Band, and in a real band. In some ways Rock Band is a lot harder. Where on a real guitar you have 6 strings, you can play multiple notes without moving your left hand. And as a bassist, I have a gripe about the achievement for the bass. Only upstrokes on that strum bar?? That's really crappy. If you play bass with fingers, you know what I'm talking about.

That being said, let's get back on topic. People quiting early. It infuriates me. I never play competetive with my headset on because when it happens, my mouth tends to run. Granted, I play on medium because I have not yet made it through the Hard solo career on guitar, and I won't kick it up to Hard online, until I can make it through Flirtin' With Disaster without failing out (been stuck on it for weeks{wonder if it's my guitar}). I already have 3 of the 4 achievements for online play. It doesn't matter if I already have my streak. When I lose, I stay in. I think it says a lot about the shambles our society has fallen in to, when over 50&#37; of the time, when people are going to lose, they quit. I was raised better than that. When I lose, it makes me want to get better. It's gotten so bad that when I beat somebody, they gave me negative feedback for being too agressive. Huh?? Where's the logic in that one? Oh well. It's just one person, and a serious sore loser. But if that's the way people want to be, it's not going to bother me much in the long run. Here's why. They will always be like that, and will never achieve much of anything. Leaving more doors open for me.

RyBu
01-13-2008, 07:46 AM
Still waiting for Ry to comment. lol


haha not bad not bad....

Tell shoom I said L2FC??
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/gotomraykain/sand.jpg

Me being totalllllllll noob
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/gotomraykain/imgay.jpg

After I get this song down, we'll have 3 full 100% songs... sucka!

heinouslak
01-13-2008, 05:52 PM
Here is a short list of some of the quitters i've played with.

Gore Zone
USG JEDI
mat shorics not only did he quit, but i put him on my avoid list and got matched up with him again moments later and he quit again.
mikanics88
SupaRadDinosaur
The Congressman

I'm sure there are more but my recent player list doesn't go any farther back. I'll keep editing this post whenever there is a new quitter.