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hmxsean
03-05-2009, 10:57 AM
Feel free to post thoughts, comments, etc in this thread.

goldencrepe
03-05-2009, 11:00 AM
pliz release it in greece hmx make a old man happy:)blackmetal rules

Hendrixx
03-05-2009, 11:01 AM
Sounds very nice. Looking forward to a tracklist!

Catch-22
03-05-2009, 11:02 AM
Hmm, nothing horrible groundbreaking in that press release however, the simultaneous release worldwide is good news for the international Rock Banders.

ame929
03-05-2009, 11:04 AM
Is it just me, or does the press release not make clear whether these songs will be able to be imported into Rock Band 2, like the AC/DC disc, or whether they'll have to be played separately?

I'd love to drop a whole disc of Beatles songs into the library I've already got, but I'm not really interested in playing them in a standalone game independent of the rest of my tracks.

elfreako
03-05-2009, 11:07 AM
Steep price on the guitar. I might consider it if it's more than just cool looking.

I'm getting the game no matter what, but just a little slip about "exportable to RB2" would mean so much to us. Come on Sean, you can do it!

Edit: much earlier release than expected, fantastic news!

goldencrepe
03-05-2009, 11:07 AM
yes worldwide release pliz make it happen hmx alot of peeps are gonna buy this game here in greece .

whofan
03-05-2009, 11:07 AM
Is it just me, or does the press release not make clear whether these songs will be able to be imported into Rock Band 2, like the AC/DC disc, or whether they'll have to be played separately?

I'd love to drop a whole disc of Beatles songs into the library I've already got, but I'm not really interested in playing them in a standalone game independent of the rest of my tracks.
The press release doesn't make it clear at all, but no press releases ever have (even the initial one for RB2 didn't say anything on that front if I am correct). However, since it is branded as "The Beatles: Rock Band", it gives me a lot of hope that it will be. We have yet to have a single "Rock Band" (Aside from the first Track Pack, which was released prior to the advent of transfers) product that hasn't transfered.

Super excited for this (regardless if it transfers or not) and am so glad that it's coming out earlier than I expected!

elfreako
03-05-2009, 11:09 AM
The press release doesn't make it clear at all, but no press releases ever have (even the initial one for RB2 didn't say anything on that front if I am correct). However, since it is branded as "The Beatles: Rock Band", it gives me a lot of hope that it will be. We have yet to have a single "Rock Band" (Aside from the first Track Pack, which was released prior to the advent of transfers) product that hasn't transfered.

That, and the fact that there is no additional instrument. Let's say the export option is more likely than it was yesterday and leave it at that, I guess.

Apples
03-05-2009, 11:09 AM
I wonder what's with the hardware/bundle.

Price seems higher than past hardware. Maybe for new features?

Still exciting though.

elfreako
03-05-2009, 11:11 AM
I wonder what's in the bundle.

I'd say the game, and plastic controllers. I might be wrong though, just check the package out for the "CAUTION: MAY CONTAIN TRACES OF LSD" logo.

S1ckH4nds
03-05-2009, 11:12 AM
Six months! Yessssss!

goldencrepe
03-05-2009, 11:13 AM
i will buy it as a standalone game bring it on hmx we love you guys .rockband is the best music game ever.

whofan
03-05-2009, 11:14 AM
That, and the fact that there is no additional instrument. Let's say the export option is more likely than it was yesterday and leave it at that, I guess.
This is a statement I agree with.

Transfer is more likely than it was, but don't read too much into it yet.

Mommar
03-05-2009, 11:16 AM
Six months! Yessssss!

Love the Avatar, nice album.

I'll take the early Beatles, please. Woo!

whofan
03-05-2009, 11:20 AM
Love the Avatar, nice album.

I'll take the early Beatles, please. Woo!
I'll take any and all Beatles! Even "Free As A Bird" and "Real Love". I wonder if it could be used as the exclusive launch for the third redone song that was supposed to be on "Anthology 3" but wasn't put on there?

dsierra87
03-05-2009, 11:21 AM
the fact that the game is called The Beatles: ROCK BAND makes it more likely you'll be able to export songs. and the price for the bundle is higher than usual, why?

Nuff_Said
03-05-2009, 11:24 AM
how long before we get some tasty info on tracks, gameplay, game setup etc?

I'd also like to see some screens of the new instrument peripherals.

Ouch. Looking at the price for the bundle. :eek:

toymachineSH
03-05-2009, 11:24 AM
BAWWW exportable BAWWWW
you people make me sick

IT'S A BEATLES VIDEO GAME

Darkaber
03-05-2009, 11:25 AM
Glad your doing a world wide release at the same time for this one :)

Nuff_Said
03-05-2009, 11:26 AM
I'd say the game, and plastic controllers. I might be wrong though, just check the package out for the "CAUTION: MAY CONTAIN TRACES OF LSD" logo.


is that some sort of added bonus? That'd be amazing. Koo Koo g'joob.

Doughoef
03-05-2009, 11:29 AM
I am sure this game is going to be very well done. I just don't see myself buying a game solely focused on one group that I'm not that big of a fan of.

T-Hybrid
03-05-2009, 11:30 AM
HMX: PLEASE find a way to make this game compatible with current RB DLC.

If you can do that, then I will be able to forgive you if you're unable to gain the rights to export the content into RB proper.

ChessPieceFace
03-05-2009, 11:32 AM
Hah, this announcement went up as I was transcribing the Rolling Stone blurb that mentioned 9/9 as the date. I even checked the forums before I started. If I'd read the issue when I got it yesterday instead of this morning, I might've had a scoop. :)

Anyway, it's nice that it's earlier than I'd expected. But dear Prudence, those are some high prices. Wonder what's so special about the instruments that the guitar is an extra $30 and the bundle is an extra $60? Maybe the set is actually a full set this time?

toymachineSH
03-05-2009, 11:32 AM
are you all unable to switch discs or something? I do it every time I put it one of the many games I own that isn't Rockband 2. You should start practicing now.

Nuff_Said
03-05-2009, 11:33 AM
Wonder what's so special about the instruments that the guitar is an extra $30 and the bundle is an extra $60? Maybe the set is actually a full set this time?

this bundle is almost $100 more than i paid for my Rock Band 1 bundle. Damn. Maybe it comes with 2 guitars?

Sayburr
03-05-2009, 11:34 AM
hey! Wonder what kind of exclusives we can score:

Exclusive content created by Apple Corps, MTV Games and Harmonix will be made available to fans over the next few months who participate in a pre-order campaign through major retailers.

Inception777
03-05-2009, 11:35 AM
This is awesome... well done HMX.

Not only are you putting out a whole game based on the best band of all time... You are releasing standalone instruments... can anyone say Hofner Bass Replica???

JetWolf
03-05-2009, 11:36 AM
I was so excited I didn't even notice the bundle price. My guess is that it's because it likely includes two guitars versus the one in the regular bundle. Harmonix may also be having to pay out additional rights for the Les Paul brand on some of these as well.

The standalone game is an absolute given here. And depending on what's done with the instruments, I may snag another guitar too (release date is my birthday after all, I can splurge). I must admit that having Paul's bass would be pretty darned sweet.

Sayburr
03-05-2009, 11:36 AM
are you all unable to switch discs or something? I do it every time I put it one of the many games I own that isn't Rockband 2. You should start practicing now.
If it is just me playing... no problem. When I have a party it becomes a huge problem.

Krazyness
03-05-2009, 11:37 AM
are you all unable to switch discs or something? I do it every time I put it one of the many games I own that isn't Rockband 2. You should start practicing now.

Of course I can switch discs. That's a really stupid question. The point is that I don't want to. When I'm playing Rock Band with family and friends we are very random and pick lots of different styles of songs to play. I know that I'm not going to like every song on the disc just like I don't like every song on the AC/DC disc. So it would certainly be nice to be able to pick and choose the songs I want to play along with the rest of my Rock Band catalog.

davidshek
03-05-2009, 11:38 AM
Nobody has commented on the release date yet? Jeez you people are young...

9/9/09. "Number 9...Number 9...Number 9..." The marketing practically writes itself! :)


are you all unable to switch discs or something? I do it every time I put it one of the many games I own that isn't Rockband 2. You should start practicing now.

Completely agree with ya here, 'sheen.

OutlawPro
03-05-2009, 11:38 AM
are you all unable to switch discs or something? I do it every time I put it one of the many games I own that isn't Rockband 2. You should start practicing now.

Or we could move forward with modern technology and not switch the discs...

toymachineSH
03-05-2009, 11:39 AM
If it is just me playing... no problem. When I have a party it becomes a huge problem.

This isn't some AC/DC track pack though. I have a feeling that The people that represent the Beatles et al. Wouldn't be too fond of DLC from Devil Driver and Megadeth being able to be played in their game.

I'm thinking this is going to be like Guitar Hero: Aerosmith but you know 40000000000x better. :D

CrazyIvan
03-05-2009, 11:39 AM
I'm definitely grabbing the game only day one. I might have to grab the Hofner bass, as well. Right now I'm using my GH3 controller as my bass and I would consider it a huge upgrade. A downright pretty'un at that.

9/9/09 is also my 8 year wedding anniversary. Coincidence???
Yeah.... but still... makes for one heckuva anniversary gift.

Nuff_Said
03-05-2009, 11:40 AM
Or we could move forward with modern technology and not switch the discs...

you can play every video game you own without switching discs? That's amazing. What system do you own?

leifdog22
03-05-2009, 11:42 AM
I am thinking the complete package is so expensive because it comes with 2 guitars instead of 1.

Electric_Zen
03-05-2009, 11:46 AM
I am thinking the complete package is so expensive because it comes with 2 guitars instead of 1.

That wouldn't explain why the standalone guitar is $100. There's something fancy about these gee-tars that they're not telling us.

foolosophy
03-05-2009, 11:46 AM
Definitely excited about the pre-order exclusives and the possibility of additional goodies in the LE Premium Bundle (DVDs, Books, Extra Guitar). I think those mentioning 2 guitars in the bundle will likely be correct. After all they have to properly represent Bass guitars in a game that showcases Paul McCartney.

FatWilma
03-05-2009, 11:49 AM
i'm really excited for this game, but $250 for the bundle, yowza! i was kinda interested in the new instruments, but until they announce what all is in the bundle that makes it so much more expensive, i'm just stickin with the game only.

cherokeesam
03-05-2009, 11:49 AM
Nobody has commented on the release date yet? Jeez you people are young...

9/9/09. "Number 9...Number 9...Number 9..." The marketing practically writes itself! :)


Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. :)

Can't wait to scream "I'VE GOT BLISTERS ON MY FINGERS"

...and oh yeah: "The Beatles: ROCK BAND" points pretty clearly to exportable tracks. Wait for HMX to confirm, of course, but it's the same marketing they used for AC/DC ROCK BAND Live, which is exportable, so.....yeah.

Which makes it even MORE awesome.

LoopyChew
03-05-2009, 11:50 AM
Including the Rock Band name in the title is a dangerous step if they decide the songs can't be used on the Rock Band platform.

Still looking forward to it though.

Apples
03-05-2009, 11:51 AM
That wouldn't explain why the standalone guitar is $100. There's something fancy about these gee-tars that they're not telling us.

I agree with this.

Pescime33
03-05-2009, 11:51 AM
The Beatles are one of the best rock bands ever and I am looking forward to this game. I am hoping for some psychedelic songs from Sgt. Pepper and Magical Mystery Tour. I will have to dust off my power blue military jacket and start working on my mop-top. I will wait for pictures of the peripheral devices to see if I want to purchase them.

Inception777
03-05-2009, 11:55 AM
"The Beatles: Rock Band will offer a limited number of new hardware offerings modeled after instruments used by John Lennon, Paul McCartney, George Harrison and Ringo Starr throughout their career."

Obviously there is "something special" about all of the instruments offered....

BBULL89
03-05-2009, 11:55 AM
The reason why the price might be so high is that it is the fixed price with the added price for the new guitar ($40 more) and they might be adding a three cymbal pack with the drums ($40 more). So that pretty much explains it all right there.

Also I can't wait for this. Seems really well done.

Valerian
03-05-2009, 11:56 AM
The part of the release that I like the most is the appearance of "ROCK BAND" right after the name of the game... That's a very good sign for potential DLC compatibility if you ask me... My guess is we will either be able to export the songs to RB or at least the new game will be able to use all the previous DLC available on our HD...

The other thing I really expect is the addition of a new Hit Hat pedal... It would be a good way to make Ringo partition less boring and the plug is already there in the RB2 drum...

Also, about the price of the bundle, maybe the kit includes both a bass and Guitar and also comes with cymbals and a HH pedal?

Nuff_Said
03-05-2009, 11:58 AM
Also I can't wait for this. Seems really well done.

how can you tell? All we've ever had are press releases. Not even one screenshot yet? You, sir, have amazing ESP.

I am 100% expecting this game to not be exportable. There's too much buzz surrounding the game for it to just be an expansion pack. We've all been told that it won't follow the traditional Rock Band format weren't we?

randrac
03-05-2009, 12:00 PM
I don't see why there is so much flak regarding people wanting to export songs. People like variety, and I know my crew would love to play Beatles songs, but only in moderation. They wouldn't want to play only Beatles, and switching discs each time you want to play a Beatles song just isn't practical. I'm not sure I would buy this unless it allows for downloading. I have already purchased RB and GHWT, and GHWT never gets any playtime at all for this very reason. When you have a party going, you don't want to break it up just to switch a disc. And then there is the online play interruptions with changing of games. It would make hooking up harder to coordinate than it already is.

Sayburr
03-05-2009, 12:00 PM
Right now, I am thinking Bundle purchase for me. I am still using the RB1 drum-kit so it is about time to upgrade to the Third Generation kit. The guitars are fine however.

I guess this also debunks the rumor of a keyboard, huh?

berdo
03-05-2009, 12:01 PM
I like The Beatles music, but the only way I will be purchasing this bundle is if we will be able to import our Rock Band 1, 2 and DLC into the game. If so, it is a 100% purchase for me! HMX Sean, please make my day and let us know this information. The moment I hear, this will be the case, is the moment I stop eating and start saving for the bundle, period.

macman2288
03-05-2009, 12:01 PM
I wonder what's with the hardware/bundle.

Price seems higher than past hardware. Maybe for new features?

Still exciting though.

Sounds like a Guitar + Bass Bundle as well as the drums and mic, since we are going to get an interment for each of the beatles or so i am assume.

Apples
03-05-2009, 12:03 PM
Nobody has commented on the release date yet? Jeez you people are young...

9/9/09. "Number 9...Number 9...Number 9..." The marketing practically writes itself! :)

Completely agree with ya here, 'sheen.

I think you're misreading it. 9/9/9 turned upside down is 6/6/6.

As Rock Band has told us, 666 is the NUMBER of the BEAST. IE: Satan.

Since 999 is the opposite of 666, we can therefore infer that the Beatles (and by association, this game) are the opposite of the devil. And who would that be? Jesus Christ. Therefore, the Beatles and this game are going to bigger than Jesus.

ryanco64
03-05-2009, 12:05 PM
Or Iron Maiden. :D

Nuff_Said
03-05-2009, 12:05 PM
I think you're misreading it. 9/9/9 turned upside down is 6/6/6.

As Rock Band has told us, 666 is the NUMBER of the BEAST. IE: Satan.

Since 999 is the opposite of 666, we can therefore infer that the Beatles (and by association, this game) are the opposite of the devil. And who would that be? Jesus Christ. Therefore, the Beatles and this game are going to bigger than Jesus.

do you want me to give Chapman a call?

elfreako
03-05-2009, 12:06 PM
how can you tell? All we've ever had are press releases. Not even one screenshot yet? You, sir, have amazing ESP.

I am 100% expecting this game to not be exportable. There's too much buzz surrounding the game for it to just be an expansion pack. We've all been told that it won't follow the traditional Rock Band format weren't we?

Perhaps. I still like the idea of the export code as an unlockable when you beat the game.

davidshek
03-05-2009, 12:07 PM
I think you're misreading it. 9/9/9 turned upside down is 6/6/6.

As Rock Band has told us, 666 is the NUMBER of the BEAST. IE: Satan.

Since 999 is the opposite of 666, we can therefore infer that the Beatles (and by association, this game) are the opposite of the devil. And who would that be? Jesus Christ. Therefore, the Beatles and this game are going to bigger than Jesus.

"Truly you have a dizzying intellect..."
-The Man in Black

668, the Neighbor of the Beast!

mrpoopsy
03-05-2009, 12:08 PM
I cant wait to see the instruments. I hope the drum set looks really cool and not just like the RB2 set.

Nuff_Said
03-05-2009, 12:09 PM
Perhaps. I still like the idea of the export code as an unlockable when you beat the game.

that'd be sort of neat, but i still think this game won't be exportable. It's too big of a deal. I think if the progression through the Beatles' career is translated into how you progress through the game, it won't matter if it's exportable or not, because it will be that damn fun. I'm buying this whether or not it's exportable. And all those people who say they won't, they will.

elfreako
03-05-2009, 12:11 PM
that'd be sort of neat, but i still think this game won't be exportable. It's too big of a deal. I think if the progression through the Beatles' career is translated into how you progress through the game, it won't matter if it's exportable or not, because it will be that damn fun. I'm buying this whether or not it's exportable. And all those people who say they won't, they will.

Nothing can stop me from buying this game, but I'd pay an additional $20 just to buy an export key.

Nuff_Said
03-05-2009, 12:12 PM
Nothing can stop me from buying this game, but I'd pay an additional $20 just to buy an export key.

don't get me wrong, i would too, but i just don't see it as a likely prospect.

foolosophy
03-05-2009, 12:12 PM
I don't see why there is so much flak regarding people wanting to export songs. People like variety, and I know my crew would love to play Beatles songs, but only in moderation. They wouldn't want to play only Beatles, and switching discs each time you want to play a Beatles song just isn't practical. I'm not sure I would buy this unless it allows for downloading. I have already purchased RB and GHWT, and GHWT never gets any playtime at all for this very reason. When you have a party going, you don't want to break it up just to switch a disc. And then there is the online play interruptions with changing of games. It would make hooking up harder to coordinate than it already is.

People get flak because I would assume it's incredibly difficult to actually get the Beatles folk to agree to an exportable disc. It's easy to say "OMG WHY NOT EXPORTABLE!? NO BUY!" It's not like Harmonix said "Nah, we don't really want an exportable disc for you guys. Let's just mess with our fanbase like that."

Ehfahq
03-05-2009, 12:17 PM
Do you see that purple twinkie? You dont want to know where it came from.

Cant wait to get this, and the new drum set. I will need another one by then.

And Im really hoping it exports. I would understand if that wasnt the case or not.

elfreako
03-05-2009, 12:19 PM
People get flak because I would assume it's incredibly difficult to actually get the Beatles folk to agree to an exportable disc. It's easy to say "OMG WHY NOT EXPORTABLE!? NO BUY!" It's not like Harmonix said "Nah, we don't really want an exportable disc for you guys. Let's just mess with our fanbase like that."

I personally was surprised AC/DC allowed it, which is why I'm keeping my hopes up this time around. I've had bigger disappointments in my life, I should be fine if the option isn't there.

Anyone throwing rocks at HMX if this doesn't become a reality is a complete idiot. Of course they wish it could be played in both games, it's not like they are marketing morons. It's not their call in the end though.

Brycer
03-05-2009, 12:22 PM
I think you're misreading it. 9/9/9 turned upside down is 6/6/6.

As Rock Band has told us, 666 is the NUMBER of the BEAST. IE: Satan.

Since 999 is the opposite of 666, we can therefore infer that the Beatles (and by association, this game) are the opposite of the devil. And who would that be? Jesus Christ. Therefore, the Beatles and this game are going to bigger than Jesus.

This exactly.

davidshek
03-05-2009, 12:23 PM
this bundle is almost $100 more than i paid for my Rock Band 1 bundle. Damn. Maybe it comes with 2 guitars?

Clearly you're missing the fact that it comes with 4 total hair setups, complete with mop tops, sideburns and mustaches.

http://guittard.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/the-beatles-02_1_1.jpg

Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if the drums for this game have 1 less lane than the current RB drums. After all, Ringo has always played on a 4-piece kit, like this:
http://www.thisdayinrock.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/ringo-starr.jpg

kick, snare, 1 mounted tom, 1 floor tom. Never 5-piece.

ktmason
03-05-2009, 12:23 PM
I agree.....$249 vice 189 usual band price.....whats the extra for?????? There MUST be something additional!!

mrpoopsy
03-05-2009, 12:27 PM
I am guessing

Johns Guitar
Pauls Bass
Ringos Drum
and a mic

Poor George gets left out.

CCPALACE
03-05-2009, 12:29 PM
hoping for the Hofner Bass and a Rickenbacker Guitar.

kiggidykev
03-05-2009, 12:29 PM
Cool, what a nice bit of news to come and find today.

Unfortunately, I can't really add to the discussion very much because what I'm thinking has already been said:

-higher price for bundle means something is up
-hopefully an export, given the "Rock Band" in the title of the game now
-circling Sept 9 on my calendar, NOW

Very exciting to finally have a release date. Looking forward to seeing a tracklist and other features of the game :) :)

Ehfahq
03-05-2009, 12:30 PM
Are people really asking what the extra money is for?

Its for Yoko, Ringo and Pauls pockets.

Booker
03-05-2009, 12:33 PM
Would prefer it to be exportable to RB2 but if it aint it's no biggie. Just means we might have to have a 'Beatles hour' during our monthly rock outs.

foolosophy
03-05-2009, 12:34 PM
I wonder if you'll be able to pick Rhythm Guitar, since both Lennon and Harrison played guitar.

Apples
03-05-2009, 12:34 PM
Are people really asking what the extra money is for?

Its for Yoko, Ringo and Pauls pockets.


If it was, wouldnt the standalone game be priced higher?

Nuff_Said
03-05-2009, 12:37 PM
Are people really asking what the extra money is for?

Its for Yoko, Ringo and Pauls pockets.

well then why isn't the cost of the standalone game more?

edit: damn you Apples' :shakes fist:

SaitanMar
03-05-2009, 12:38 PM
Am I in a dream folks, did I just read the words:

''available simultaneously worldwide in North America, Europe, Australia, New Zealand and other territories for the Xbox 360® video game and entertainment system from Microsoft''

I'm honestly shocked, I totally expected folks in Europe to have to wait for the game over months again. I hope you keep your promise HMX cause I want me some Beatles: Rock Band :)

mrpoopsy
03-05-2009, 12:39 PM
I wonder if you'll be able to pick Rhythm Guitar, since both Lennon and Harrison played guitar.

I freakin hope so

also I am hoping for Sitar

Ehfahq
03-05-2009, 12:40 PM
If it was, wouldnt the standalone game be priced higher?

I was being facetious. I have no clue what the extra money is for.

But im sure people will cry thier eyes out over it.

DMBillies
03-05-2009, 12:41 PM
I personally was surprised AC/DC allowed it, which is why I'm keeping my hopes up this time around. I've had bigger disappointments in my life, I should be fine if the option isn't there.

Anyone throwing rocks at HMX if this doesn't become a reality is a complete idiot. Of course they wish it could be played in both games, it's not like they are marketing morons. It's not their call in the end though.

In fairness, it is HMX call. By taking a year off from (presumably) a RB3 release and putting a whole lot of their eggs into this basket, I think it is incredibly fair for them to bring compatibility/exportability to the table as something that is absolutely necessary for this game.

This is especially true because there is NO WAY that a one-time export like AC/DC will hurt sales (Apple makes more money) and it will most certainly get more Beatles songs played over a longer period of time on more consoles (Apple exposes more people to the Beatles and makes more money off of album sales).

And frankly, I will forgive them if they do release it without exportability, but I won't buy it. I feel I've been burnt value-wise by a couple of previous 'half-baked' HMX releases (GH:80's and AC/DC pack) and the only way this game can possibly be worthwhile, especially if it is as RB-like as it now appears it will be, is if these tracks can be exported. Sorry, entirely stand-alone band games are a terrible idea... no matter what the band... without an export.

kronwhon
03-05-2009, 12:43 PM
Are people really asking what the extra money is for?

Its for Yoko, Ringo and Pauls pockets.


I love how Yoko is first here

Nuff_Said
03-05-2009, 12:44 PM
In fairness, it is HMX call. By taking a year off from (presumably) a RB3 release and putting a whole lot of their eggs into this basket, I think it is incredibly fair for them to bring compatibility/exportability to the table as something that is absolutely necessary for this game.

This is especially true because there is NO WAY that a one-time export like AC/DC will hurt sales (Apple makes more money) and it will most certainly get more Beatles songs played over a longer period of time on more consoles (Apple exposes more people to the Beatles and makes more money off of album sales).

And frankly, I will forgive them if they do release it without exportability, but I won't buy it. I feel I've been burnt value-wise by a couple of previous 'half-baked' HMX releases (GH:80's and AC/DC pack) and the only way this game can possibly be worthwhile, especially if it is as RB-like as it now appears it will be, is if these tracks can be exported. Sorry, entirely stand-alone band games are a terrible idea... no matter what the band... without an export.

I don't think this is merely a track pack. This is what people are failing to realize. The AC/DC game even states on the packaging that it is a track pack. The Beatles focussed game is a new game, not a Rock Band expansion, and it shouldn't be treated as so.

zeoavenger
03-05-2009, 12:51 PM
I'd rather export RB2 tracks into the new Beatles game. I hate the whole RB2 interface anyway. Hopefully The Beatles: Rock Band has a solo tour. It's comforting to know there won't be anything truly terrible tracks on the disc like Visions.

kronwhon
03-05-2009, 12:53 PM
This doesn't fly for me without the export option. I love the Beatles, but without export, I will wait to buy it used = no $$ for any of these companies.

Switching discs anytime I "feel like playing" the Beatles is not worth $60.

Same with Aerosmith and Metallica. Not worth it.

kronwhon
03-05-2009, 12:54 PM
I'd rather export RB2 tracks into the new Beatles game. I hate the whole RB2 interface anyway. Hopefully The Beatles: Rock Band has a solo tour. It's comforting to know there won't be anything truly terrible tracks on the disc like Visions.

Very good point here as well

elfreako
03-05-2009, 12:54 PM
I think it is incredibly fair for them to bring compatibility/exportability to the table as something that is absolutely necessary for this game.

...

Sorry, entirely stand-alone band games are a terrible idea... no matter what the band... without an export.

I'm sure they have brought it to the table, and quite frankly I don't see how this could hurt Apple either, but they may have their reasons.

I think your last statement needs some revision. No single feature is worth losing a deal with The Beatles, no matter how much fans of the game want it.

Sayburr
03-05-2009, 12:55 PM
I don't think this is merely a track pack. This is what people are failing to realize. The AC/DC game even states on the packaging that it is a track pack. The Beatles focussed game is a new game, not a Rock Band expansion, and it shouldn't be treated as so.
Agreed... While I hope all of the songs from RB, RB2, and DLC will be playable along with the Beatles in some form or fashion that will not be THE deciding factor... I just have to know more about it. The Beatles or $60 of DLC? What makes The Beatles (other than the music) a better purchase than DLC?

Nuff_Said
03-05-2009, 12:56 PM
This doesn't fly for me without the export option. I love the Beatles, but without export, I will wait to buy it used = no $$ for any of these companies.

Switching discs anytime I "feel like playing" the Beatles is not worth $60.

Same with Aerosmith and Metallica. Not worth it.

You must solely play Rock Band then i would assume? If switching discs it too tiring of a task for you to undertake. I mean, i get it, standing up really is a chore.

whofan
03-05-2009, 12:57 PM
Are people really asking what the extra money is for?

Its for Yoko, Ringo and Pauls pockets.

Olivia's not getting anything? :(

Nuff_Said
03-05-2009, 12:58 PM
Agreed... While I hope all of the songs from RB, RB2, and DLC will be playable along with the Beatles in some form or fashion that will not be THE deciding factor... I just have to know more about it. The Beatles or $60 of DLC? What makes The Beatles (other than the music) a better purchase than DLC?

Hmmmm. There's no guarantee for the DLC quality though. Whereas The Beatles discography, if a fan, is so full of awesome win, that, for me, it's worth every penny of $60. I also suppose it depends on the total # of tracks included in the game.

Sayburr
03-05-2009, 12:58 PM
Olivia's not getting anything? :( A gently weeping guitar???

PersonaAnima
03-05-2009, 12:59 PM
They have noted before that it wont be exportable. Why couldn't they have picked another band?

Nuff_Said
03-05-2009, 01:00 PM
They have noted before that it wont be exportable. Why couldn't they have picked another band?

because Rush sucks.

whofan
03-05-2009, 01:01 PM
I don't think this is merely a track pack. This is what people are failing to realize. The AC/DC game even states on the packaging that it is a track pack. The Beatles focussed game is a new game, not a Rock Band expansion, and it shouldn't be treated as so.
No, it's "not JUST an expansion pack" (direct quote from initial interview revealing the game, caps added for emphasis)

Take that as you will. I am guessing that we are going to get a one-time code (ala AC/DC) that can only be used after you complete the in game tour (solo or band).

That is the best way I can see it working out. However, regardless of whether or not it exports or not, I could not care less.

whofan
03-05-2009, 01:02 PM
They have noted before that it wont be exportable. Why couldn't they have picked another band?
Because you touch yourself at night?

They have never said a single thing about exportability except "no comment" (direct quote) yet.

PersonaAnima
03-05-2009, 01:03 PM
I can still see.
And it isnt just at night.

Ehfahq
03-05-2009, 01:03 PM
You must solely play Rock Band then i would assume? If switching discs it too tiring of a task for you to undertake. I mean, i get it, standing up really is a chore.

Are you going to post the same thing over and over and over and over again? If you dont understand the point by now, just give up.

jeccaneko
03-05-2009, 01:04 PM
hey! Wonder what kind of exclusives we can score:

Exclusive content created by Apple Corps, MTV Games and Harmonix will be made available to fans over the next few months who participate in a pre-order campaign through major retailers.

I saw that. I hope Amazon is included as a major retailer. I hate those Gamestop only pre-order deals because I don't really go there anymore. Amazon is my primary shopping source.

I was kinda surprised it's going to have the Rock Band title attached to it. HMX insisted it was a different game but just because Rock Band is tagged to it, it makes me think GH Aerosmith or GH Metallica. HMX may do a better job with such a thing, but still. Makes me wonder.

Either way, I'll probably be picking this up, but as always with music games I'm not committing either way until I see the track list.

Nuff_Said
03-05-2009, 01:05 PM
Are you going to post the same thing over and over and over and over again? If you dont understand the point by now, just give up.

i will until people wake up and realize this is not a Rock Band expansion pack.

ktmason
03-05-2009, 01:07 PM
Tell ya what, I vote the extra price will include TWO guitars (maybe a violin shaped bass??) and/or drums WITH CYMBALS (??)

What ya think??

CircaKnives
03-05-2009, 01:08 PM
Is it September yet?

That's one of the most pleasent surprises ever. They said around the holiday season and now it's released when it's still technically summer.

Ehfahq
03-05-2009, 01:10 PM
i will until people wake up and realize this is not a Rock Band expansion pack.

So you dont get the point then. So youre just trolling. Just wanted to make sure. Talk to you never again.

Catch-22
03-05-2009, 01:10 PM
i will until people wake up and realize this is not a Rock Band expansion pack.

Despite the fact that you don't really know if the tracks will be exportable? Maybe you should stop posting the exact same "you're lazy" argument since it really doesn't affect whether the songs will or wont be exportable.

BlackAdder90
03-05-2009, 01:11 PM
If they follow precedence, it'll be nothing but B-side live tracks or songs only the diehard fans have ever heard, all covered by the Foo Fighters.

Meh. Beatles are overrated. "I Love You YEAH YEAH YEAH....." alright we get it. "I Wanna Hold Your Haaaaaannnnndd".....Do ya?

Nuff_Said
03-05-2009, 01:12 PM
Is it September yet?

That's one of the most pleasent surprises ever. They said around the holiday season and now it's released when it's still technically summer.

September will be a good month for video games just with The Beatles game and Brutal Legend alone.

Ranger D
03-05-2009, 01:14 PM
This is going to be much more then an expansion. It's not even an expansion at that. It's going to take you through the Beatles CAREER. This tells me it's going to have all it's own animations, Beatles characters, and probably a storyline between playing the songs. It's going to be much more then just choosing a song and off you go.

I wouldn't put too much faith in it being exportable. Besides, the gigantic library they are going to include would just be wayyyy too much of one band to have come up in your setlists on RB. From previous experiences you wouldn't be able to pick and choose your tracks.

Now, I'm sure there are people who would love to have all those songs included in their RB set lists (I'm not one of them) but there probably isn't enough to make it exportable worth it.

These are just my opinions and I could be 100% wrong. That's just how I see it. The game is meant to be played as it's own game, and that's it.

Redsvetz22
03-05-2009, 01:15 PM
And all those people who say they won't, they will.

This is the trufus, Rufus! It's easy to say "I won't buy this unless..."
But if this game is as awesome as it should be, you'll be right there on September 9, waitng to throw down yer lettuce just like everybody else.

P.S. I assume everybody who likes RB enough to surf these forums is already so deep into "all things RB" that they won't even blink at spending another 250 bucks. (Check my sig for my number)

davidshek
03-05-2009, 01:16 PM
I'd rather export RB2 tracks into the new Beatles game. I hate the whole RB2 interface anyway. Hopefully The Beatles: Rock Band has a solo tour.

Even if it does have a solo tour, how would that improve anything having to do with your RB2 tracks imported into the game? They'd be just like DLC. RB1 has a Solo Tour, and DLC is not incorporated into it.

Unless you meant that as a completely separate thought, in which case you can ignore me. :)

Nuff_Said
03-05-2009, 01:17 PM
So you dont get the point then. So youre just trolling. Just wanted to make sure. Talk to you never again.

i don't think you get the point. This is a new game. Not an extended arm of Rock Band 2.

whofan
03-05-2009, 01:18 PM
If they follow precedence, it'll be nothing but B-side live tracks or songs only the diehard fans have ever heard, all covered by the Foo Fighters.

Meh. Beatles are overrated. "I Love You YEAH YEAH YEAH....." alright we get it. "I Wanna Hold Your Haaaaaannnnndd".....Do ya?
Clearly you do not know a thing about The Beatles and what they did for music. Maybe, just maybe, if you took a few minutes and actually listened to their music (especially the later years stuff) you would realize why they are deserving of their own game.

Second of all, it's "precedent", not "precedence".

Finally, because yes, all we've gotten over the past year and a half is B-sides and Foo Fighters songs. Never mind the huge hits we've got (More Human Than Human, More Than A Feeling, My Generation, The Boys Are Back In Town,etc) and the more than 500 non-Foo Fighters tracks that we've got. I just love stupidly sarcastic comments that have no basis in reality, they're faaaantastic.

Droosies
03-05-2009, 01:19 PM
Here's how it's going for me....

If the songs are exportable, I'll be getting the bundle.

If not, just the standalone game.

I'm praying for an exportable game though. My girlfriend LOVES the Beatles, but hates Rock Band (mainly because I play it 2 to 3 hours a day and she's tired of hearing Carry On My Wayward Son which I play all the time). Getting the songs on Rock Band 2 will finally get her to play more often with me which would be AWESOME!

whofan
03-05-2009, 01:20 PM
i don't think you get the point. This is a new game. Not an extended arm of Rock Band 2.
/Facepalm.

You clearly did not see my direct quote from the developers themselves a few pages back. Take a look back a few pages.

ktmason
03-05-2009, 01:21 PM
I have been reading all the hubbub about why some hate all this.

You know what? If you dont like it, don't buy it. I don't like metal, so I don't buy it. Don't like Snoop, so I wont buy that either.

So what? Are you gonna lose sleep over that? NO. And I wont lose sleep over you not buying the Beatles either.

I would imagine that those who are complaining are under 25. I grew up with the Beatles--they changed music, wheather YOU like it or not. They are to be respected....PERIOD. No questions. A game dedicated to them is, in MY mind at least, one of the least things that can be done. They were, and are, one of the BEST things that happened to music.

So is our game. We have the BEST music game there is. Sure, it could be improved (I still want our stars back, and a way to delete songs) and sure wish they would put a patch out for those, but its a hell of a lot better than the way GH lovers were treated when WT was put out, wasn't it? And they are STILL complaining!!!!

Grow up. LOVE our game. Respect the Beatles...download your own music, and leave us to ours.

Nuff said.

Nuff_Said
03-05-2009, 01:24 PM
I have been reading all the hubbub about why some hate all this.

You know what? If you dont like it, don't buy it. I don't like metal, so I don't buy it. Don't like Snoop, so I wont buy that either.

So what? Are you gonna lose sleep over that? NO. And I wont lose sleep over you not buying the Beatles either.

I would imagine that those who are complaining are under 25. I grew up with the Beatles--they changed music, wheather YOU like it or not. They are to be respected....PERIOD. No questions. A game dedicated to them is, in MY mind at least, one of the least things that can be done. They were, and are, one of the BEST things that happened to music.

So is our game. We have the BEST music game there is. Sure, it could be improved (I still want our stars back, and a way to delete songs) and sure wish they would put a patch out for those, but its a hell of a lot better than the way GH lovers were treated when WT was put out, wasn't it? And they are STILL complaining!!!!

Grow up. LOVE our game. Respect the Beatles...download your own music, and leave us to ours.

Nuff said.

FTW


The company is focusing on the upcoming Beatles-focused Rock Band-style game. "We want to make this an art object," Rigopulos told me

now why, if this is such a huge undertaking that the company respects as an art form, would it just merely be exported to Rock Band where people won't be able to experience this art-form?

Akuryu
03-05-2009, 01:25 PM
I used to do disc swapping...in the 90s. I was perfectly happy doing it. I had hundreds of CDs. But a few years ago apple released this thing called an iPod. My entire music library fits nicely on it. No disc swapping. If I want new music now, I head straight to itunes and add it to my library. You know what happens if the music I want isn't up there? I just don't buy it. I'm going to go to a CD store now? I can't be bothered. Technology has evolved...we've stepped up the game.

HMX too, has stepped up the game. If the Beatles tracks take a step backwards, if they can't join the rest of the library, I just won't buy it. Simple as that. I don't wish for it to fail and I'm not telling others not to buy it. It's just not for me.

Droosies
03-05-2009, 01:26 PM
i will until people wake up and realize this is not a Rock Band expansion pack.

Nuff Said...what I think you don't understand is that Rock Band to most of us is a party game. In fact, I host a Rock Band party every couple weeks or so. My girlfriend is a HUGE Beatles fan and will want to play only those. It would be a burden to switch discs after every song because someone wants to play a song on a different disc. This would be the party if the songs are not exportable.

"OK. That was an awesome run of And Justice For All. What's next?"

"I AM THE WALRUS!"

::Change discs::

"OK...what now?"

"JEREMY!"

::Change discs::

"OK...what now?"

"While My Guitar Gently Weeps!"

::Change discs::

"Next?"

"Round and Round!"

::Change discs::

See my point? Since Guitar Hero is a more single person-based game IMO, it's different. But Rock Band was built around multiplayer. And if I want to mix The Beatles with The Who, it's gonna get monotonous.

Sargehalo51
03-05-2009, 01:26 PM
This is going to be the best thing since sliced bread. I don't even care about the price of the bundle...I would pay twice that amount. Thank you HMX!!!

whofan
03-05-2009, 01:27 PM
FTW



now why, if this is such a huge undertaking that the company respects as an art form, would it just merely be exported to Rock Band where people won't be able to experience this art-form?
It's possible to make it exportable and still make it so that people experience the "art" behind it.

Simple solution:
Provide a one use code on the back of the manual (ala AC/DC), but make the export code input in game and only unlocked when you complete the career mode.

Simple as that.

Nuff_Said
03-05-2009, 01:27 PM
I used to do disc swapping...in the 90s. I was perfectly happy doing it. I had hundreds of CDs. But a few years ago apple released this thing called an iPod. My entire music library fits nicely on it. No disc swapping. If I want new music now, I head straight to itunes and add it to my library. You know what happens if the music I want isn't up there? I just don't buy it. I'm going to go to a CD store now? I can't be bothered. Technology has evolved...we've stepped up the game.

HMX too, has stepped up the game. If the Beatles tracks take a step backwards, if they can't join the rest of the library, I just won't buy it. Simple as that. I don't wish for it to fail and I'm not telling others not to buy it. It's just not for me.

It's not a Beatles track pack. Read the facts.

Apples
03-05-2009, 01:27 PM
Folks,

We all realize that compatibility/disc swapping is a major hot button issue. But this press release doesn't speak to that. In fact, nothing does.

Suggest keeping to discussion we do know about instead of baseless guessing we don't.

Nuff_Said
03-05-2009, 01:28 PM
Nuff Said...what I think you don't understand is that Rock Band to most of us is a party game. In fact, I host a Rock Band party every couple weeks or so. My girlfriend is a HUGE Beatles fan and will want to play only those. It would be a burden to switch discs after every song because someone wants to play a song on a different disc. This would be the party if the songs are not exportable.

"OK. That was an awesome run of And Justice For All. What's next?"

"I AM THE WALRUS!"

::Change discs::

"OK...what now?"

"JEREMY!"

::Change discs::

"OK...what now?"

"While My Guitar Gently Weeps!"

::Change discs::

"Next?"

"Round and Round!"

::Change discs::

See my point? Since Guitar Hero is a more single person-based game IMO, it's different. But Rock Band was built around multiplayer. And if I want to mix The Beatles with The Who, it's gonna get monotonous.

So you play Rock Band for an hour and then play the Beatles game for another hour. Why is that such a hard thing to do?

CircaKnives
03-05-2009, 01:29 PM
Meh. Beatles are overrated. "I Love You YEAH YEAH YEAH....." alright we get it. "I Wanna Hold Your Haaaaaannnnndd".....Do ya?

Seriously, you're not the first person to ever say that, but it still amazes me that many people are as ignorant about music. People who like metal, and just metal or hard rock, think they're overrated because they didn't "ROCK MAN!".

For all the people who don't know, music wouldn't be music without the Beatles. All of your bands draw influences from the Beatles. I don't care who it is, they are influenced by the Beatles. "Helter Skelter" is the first real hard rock song and metal grew from that song. There will never EVER be a band as important to music as the Beatles.

whofan
03-05-2009, 01:30 PM
I used to do disc swapping...in the 90s. I was perfectly happy doing it. I had hundreds of CDs. But a few years ago apple released this thing called an iPod. My entire music library fits nicely on it. No disc swapping. If I want new music now, I head straight to itunes and add it to my library. You know what happens if the music I want isn't up there? I just don't buy it. I'm going to go to a CD store now? I can't be bothered. Technology has evolved...we've stepped up the game.

HMX too, has stepped up the game. If the Beatles tracks take a step backwards, if they can't join the rest of the library, I just won't buy it. Simple as that. I don't wish for it to fail and I'm not telling others not to buy it. It's just not for me.
Man, you are missing out on some fantastic music. Besides, get with the times man, LPs are coming back and starting to make dents again. I would fully expect to see LPs become a dominant force in music once again.

Regardless, this whole thing of "If it's not on Itunes, I don't buy it" (and the exportable arguement as well) just reeks of collective laziness. However, that being said, the people arguing that export is necessary do have a point for social events (as Droosies pointed out)

Droosies
03-05-2009, 01:31 PM
So you play Rock Band for an hour and then play the Beatles game for another hour. Why is that such a hard thing to do?

Are you stupid or something? Read the first line in my response. I host Rock Band parties. I'm not going to ask people who want to play the Beatles to wait an hour to play. That's rude. I'm especially not going to make my girlfriend wait to play. Again, if I'm playing by myself, it's not a big deal to me. I'll shoot through the Beatles game in a couple hours when I get the urge. But during a Rock Band party, the Beatles will be highly requested and switching back and forth in the middle of a party will get repetitive.

k-mac
03-05-2009, 01:32 PM
I'm just going to be getting the stand alone game, and i'm looking forward to it - should be awesome. It's too bad they're not going to have one of my favourites on it (Because, as doesn't have drums or bass at all). But as long as it has Dear Prudence on it, that'll make up for it. There are so many great songs to choose from....i wonder how many tracks it'll end up having.

BlackAdder90
03-05-2009, 01:34 PM
Clearly you do not know a thing about The Beatles and what they did for music. Maybe, just maybe, if you took a few minutes and actually listened to their music (especially the later years stuff) you would realize why they are deserving of their own game.

Second of all, it's "precedent", not "precedence".

Finally, because yes, all we've gotten over the past year and a half is B-sides and Foo Fighters songs. Never mind the huge hits we've got (More Human Than Human, More Than A Feeling, My Generation, The Boys Are Back In Town,etc) and the more than 500 non-Foo Fighters tracks that we've got. I just love stupidly sarcastic comments that have no basis in reality, they're faaaantastic.

If you read the above post with the ending credits theme from the Incredible Hulk television show playing, its alot more entertaining.

Beatles Schmeatles. They were the Monkees without the tv show.

Nuff_Said
03-05-2009, 01:34 PM
Are you stupid or something? Read the first line in my response. I host Rock Band parties. I'm not going to ask people who want to play the Beatles to wait an hour to play. That's rude. I'm especially not going to make my girlfriend wait to play. Again, if I'm playing by myself, it's not a big deal to me. I'll shoot through the Beatles game in a couple hours when I get the urge. But during a Rock Band party, the Beatles will be highly requested and switching back and forth in the middle of a party will get repetitive.

Thankfully you only host these parties every couple weeks or so, and not daily.

Ehfahq
03-05-2009, 01:34 PM
Are you stupid or something? Read the first line in my response. I host Rock Band parties. I'm not going to ask people who want to play the Beatles to wait an hour to play. That's rude. I'm especially not going to make my girlfriend wait to play. Again, if I'm playing by myself, it's not a big deal to me. I'll shoot through the Beatles game in a couple hours when I get the urge. But during a Rock Band party, the Beatles will be highly requested and switching back and forth in the middle of a party will get repetitive.

Clearly he is not smart enough to understand the simple point, so just do yourself a favor and put him on ignore. This thread is much better that way.

Anyways...............

Nuff_Said
03-05-2009, 01:35 PM
I'm just going to be getting the stand alone game, and i'm looking forward to it - should be awesome. It's too bad they're not going to have one of my favourites on it (Because, as doesn't have drums or bass at all). But as long as it has Dear Prudence on it, that'll make up for it. There are so many great songs to choose from....i wonder how many tracks it'll end up having.

i've heard it's rumored to be in the range of 45 Beatles songs. I'm not sure if there will be other bands included in the game or not, but i tend to think not.

MaximumJason
03-05-2009, 01:36 PM
Personally, I'd like to see this exportable, or otherwise compatible with all the RB1, RB2, and current DLC media. Guitar Hero is killing themselves with all the seperate games they've been releasing, and I loved rock band's ability to house all my tunes in one game. I'm sure it'd be a cool stand alone game but for those of us with a huge playlist of DLC and RB1 & 2 tracks, it's alot nicer to be able to select those tracks without switching games.

Don't think i'd buy it if this feature isn't available, and i'd continue to build my RB2 setlist.

Here's hoping eveyone gets what they like. But like the song goes: "You can't always get what you want, but you get what you need."

Deeznutzs27
03-05-2009, 01:37 PM
From Joystiq

Update: "Speaking to an MTV representative, we confirmed that despite the "collaborative decision" to append the Rock Band brand, The Beatles will remain a "custom, standalone, dedicated game experience." MTV and Harmonix are not willing to discuss matters regarding DLC or song importation yet."

whofan
03-05-2009, 01:39 PM
Seriously, you're not the first person to ever say that, but it still amazes me that many people are as ignorant about music. People who like metal, and just metal or hard rock, think they're overrated because they didn't "ROCK MAN!".

For all the people who don't know, music wouldn't be music without the Beatles. All of your bands draw influences from the Beatles. I don't care who it is, they are influenced by the Beatles. "Helter Skelter" is the first real hard rock song and metal grew from that song. There will never EVER be a band as important to music as the Beatles.
While I agree with your sentiment, there is just so much wrong with the rest of your arguement that I don't even know where to start.

First, "Helter Skelter" was not the first "Hard Rock" song, there were a lot more rocking tunes that came out well before it. In fact, the song started off as a slow bluesy number until Pete Townshend (of The Who) derided The Beatles in an interview by saying that they couldn't keep up with groups like The Who and the Rolling Stones. In response Paul changed it to be more in the same style as The Who to try to one up Pete.

That's where I'll end for right now.

Catch-22
03-05-2009, 01:39 PM
i've heard it's rumored to be in the range of 45 Beatles songs. I'm not sure if there will be other bands included in the game or not, but i tend to think not.

Man you are just a fountain of misinformation and rumours. Please for the sake of everyone here give it a rest.

Hellion4242
03-05-2009, 01:42 PM
I think it's amazing how some people simply REFUSE to accept that someone else sees things differently. Or even more revolutionary, that they may have a valid point! There's even 4 or 5 of you formulating argumentative responses to this right this very minute, despite not even knowing what my stances on any of the troll points are.

Inception777
03-05-2009, 01:43 PM
I actually own a midget that's sole purpose is to change discs for me... I don't mind if we can't export.

whofan
03-05-2009, 01:43 PM
Then don't expect people to respect you, because man alive you are spouting so much crap out of your mouth I can't believe it at all.

Okay, I get that you may not like The Beatles, but denying that they had any influence on music is beyond dumb and the misinformation in the quoted post just really strains the mind on where you got any of it from.

Magnet
03-05-2009, 01:43 PM
I love the name of this game. It uses the Rock Band franchise name so awesomely that if a franchise by the name of "Rock Band" didn't even exist, it would still sound perfect.

Nuff_Said
03-05-2009, 01:43 PM
Man you are just a fountain of misinformation and rumours. Please for the sake of everyone here give it a rest.

that's why it's called a rumour

Knock off the flaming. -Magnet

whofan
03-05-2009, 01:44 PM
I actually own a midget that's sole purpose is to change discs for me... I don't mind if we can't export.
Are you willing to licence him out to use by other users?

Inception777
03-05-2009, 01:44 PM
Where you trying to be funny or just sound stupid?

Runch
03-05-2009, 01:44 PM
$250 for a bundle for a standalone game? In this economy? I can't see that being a big seller.

To be honest, I have a feeling the whole game won't be a big hit, but time will tell I guess...

Inception777
03-05-2009, 01:45 PM
Are you willing to licence him out to use by other users?

Only on tuesdays, that's when I play viva pinata.

rab39
03-05-2009, 01:45 PM
And yet you're a Rowan Atkinson fan.

(ps your post shows you must be a real winner wooing the ladies)

Evergrey06
03-05-2009, 01:47 PM
This is pretty much a maybe. I'm not much of a Beatles fan.

Nuff_Said
03-05-2009, 01:47 PM
And yet you're a Rowan Atkinson fan.

(ps your post shows you must be a real winner wooing the ladies)

i found that odd as well that his name was BlackAdder and has such a loathing of The Beatles.

master2uall
03-05-2009, 01:51 PM
i hope it can be exported after you beat the game only, because im not that big a fan of the beatles, my wife, on the other hand is, and demands that i get it.

but if im having a party, i doublt im going to stop the fun for 5 minutes to swap discs and boot up and set settings and start a new game just to have to do it again in a little bit.

ill get the stand alone for her to play by herself, not for me, if i cant play in my rb2/. just my .02

White_PawZ
03-05-2009, 01:56 PM
I agree with some other posters that it is more likely that you export RB2 to your HD and play those songs within the Beatles game, maybe AFTER you have completed the tour mode or something like that.

Then again, if the Beatles are coming to Itunes, they might be changing their thoughts on electronic downloading of singles.

toymachineSH
03-05-2009, 01:57 PM
http://i39.tinypic.com/2i8vyu8.jpg

Neogoglu
03-05-2009, 01:58 PM
I'm a beatles fan, but i won't buy this game
if i can't import the songs to my DLC librairy.

There's no way that i will start to swap discs
in parties with all the poeple hanging around
and waiting all the time for both games to start.

If HMX are wise enough, they already know that
they will sell a lot more of those gamedics and bundles
if we can import the songs to our HDD, so they should
start right away the negociation about it.

Think about it, i don't care about the beatles journey and bla bla bla,
i just want to pay 60 $ (or even more) for the damn download code
on the booklet (like the AC/DC one) and play those songs
freely like all the others DLC that i already have.

HMX don't even need to print a disc for me, keep to money
for it, i don't care, sell me the damn code for the same price.

adamlathrom
03-05-2009, 02:03 PM
I'm not much of a Beatles fan, but if they are exportable, I will buy. Just to add to my ever growing DLC. If I have a good amount of income by then.

JPSChampagne
03-05-2009, 02:04 PM
Rock Band in the title? You daaaaaamnnnnn riiiight.

Sorry. Had to gloat. I was sick of pointing out "Not JUST a Rock Band expansion" for months. This is great. I don't have much doubt about an export right now. With no additional instruments and Rock Band in the title, I have little doubt that HMX will do the right thing yet again.

Slab Hardcheese
03-05-2009, 02:05 PM
I'm a beatles fan, but i won't buy this game
if i can't import the songs to my DLC librairy.

There's no way that i will start to swap discs
in parties with all the poeple hanging around
and waiting all the time for both games to start.

If HMX are wise enough, they already know that
they will sell a lot more of those gamedics and bundles
if we can import the songs to our HDD, so they should
start right away the negociation about it.

Think about it, i don't care about the beatles journey and bla bla bla,
i just want to pay 60 $ (or even more) for the damn download code
on the booklet (like the AC/DC one) and play those songs
freely like all the others DLC that i already have.

HMX don't even need to print a disc for me, keep to money
for it, i don't care, sell me the damn code for the same price.

This.

BTW, The racisim I've seen on this forum is despicable. Just because you like a television show from the same country a band is from, it is assumed you must like the band too? What kind of stereotype crap is that? I guess all of us black folk must luv us some Good Times and Grape soda too?

Catch-22
03-05-2009, 02:10 PM
This.

BTW, The racisim I've seen on this forum is despicable. Just because you like a television show from the same country a band is from, it is assumed you must like the band too?

How is that racism? Being British/American/French whatever isn't a race.

mobhit101
03-05-2009, 02:11 PM
http://i39.tinypic.com/2i8vyu8.jpg



ROFL.

That was awesome

Reg989
03-05-2009, 02:13 PM
First time I ever wished that the summer was already over...

I only have one small request to HMX: PLEASE, make sure that it will be available easily, unlike RB2. Living in Quebec province, I've been lucky to get my copy on release date and I don't believe that I can be that lucky a second time.

Guess the steeper price for the bundle is for the extra license or the Hofner and Rickenbaker bass/guitar models.

As for export, well, if it can be exported, or RB2 exported to HD and imported to the game, it'll be a bonus but I won't hold my breath and I'll buy it anyway. Might not get the bundle, depending of what's included.

To complete this, if you need software tester, I'll be glad to help :)

Nuff_Said
03-05-2009, 02:14 PM
I'm a beatles fan, but i won't buy this game
if i can't import the songs to my DLC librairy.

There's no way that i will start to swap discs
in parties with all the poeple hanging around
and waiting all the time for both games to start.

If HMX are wise enough, they already know that
they will sell a lot more of those gamedics and bundles
if we can import the songs to our HDD, so they should
start right away the negociation about it.

Think about it, i don't care about the beatles journey and bla bla bla,
i just want to pay 60 $ (or even more) for the damn download code
on the booklet (like the AC/DC one) and play those songs
freely like all the others DLC that i already have.

HMX don't even need to print a disc for me, keep to money
for it, i don't care, sell me the damn code for the same price.


So i just tested something, and i discovered it took me one minute and six seconds to get up off my couch, switch game discs, and get to the screen where i'm choosing my characters in band quick play. People complaining must really value that whole minute of their life.

cherokeesam
03-05-2009, 02:15 PM
So the bundle:

Paul's violin bass?
George's "Rocky" Strat?
and a drum kit featuring a "THE BEATLES" logo on a "real" bass drum?

Speculation....but awesomeness sauce (extra strength) if true....

cherokeesam
03-05-2009, 02:17 PM
So i just tested something, and i discovered it took me one minute and six seconds to get up off my couch, switch game discs, and get to the screen where i'm choosing my characters in band quick play. People complaining must really value that whole minute of their life.

People keep saying that, but you're missing the point:

The point isn't that it's "too much work" to get up and switch from your RB core game to a standalone Beatles game, it's the fact that we exportites want the Beatles IN our core game....i.e., we can pull up a mystery setlist that features Rush, Bob Dylan, SOAD, Elvis Costello and "Hey Jude"....

A standalone won't allow that, obviously.

Nuff_Said
03-05-2009, 02:18 PM
So the bundle:

Paul's violin bass?
George's "Rocky" Strat?
and a drum kit featuring a "THE BEATLES" logo on a "real" bass drum?

Speculation....but awesomeness sauce (extra strength) if true....

that'd be really awesome if it came with a mini bass drum. It might make me more lenient to get the whole bundle.

Akuryu
03-05-2009, 02:19 PM
So i just tested something, and i discovered it took me one minute and six seconds to get up off my couch, switch game discs, and get to the screen where i'm choosing my characters in band quick play. People complaining must really value that whole minute of their life.

How long does it take to get off your couch and change the channel or adjust the volume on your TV? Can I assume you'll be burning those remotes?

Sayburr
03-05-2009, 02:20 PM
OK, lets talk about something other than disc swapping.

Did anyone notice that there was no mention of Keyboards. That was a rumor at one time... The only thing the press release says is Guitar, Bass, Mic, and Drums.

Nuff_Said
03-05-2009, 02:21 PM
People keep saying that, but you're missing the point:

The point isn't that it's "too much work" to get up and switch from your RB core game to a standalone Beatles game, it's the fact that we exportites want the Beatles IN our core game....i.e., we can pull up a mystery setlist that features Rush, Bob Dylan, SOAD, Elvis Costello and "Hey Jude"....

A standalone won't allow that, obviously.

I understand this, and would fully be thankful if it happens. The fact that people are so butt-hurt about the prospect that it "might" not be exportable is absolutely absurd. In no way does that affect the quality or enjoyability of the game. I was just stating that comment for those who complain about having to get up and change discs saying it will put a damper on their party atmosphere. Really people, one minute is all it takes.

Barnaby Fist
03-05-2009, 02:23 PM
I hope they include some of the White album. How could they NOT put songs from the White album in this game?

Smidget
03-05-2009, 02:23 PM
I don't think this is merely a track pack. This is what people are failing to realize. The AC/DC game even states on the packaging that it is a track pack. The Beatles focussed game is a new game, not a Rock Band expansion, and it shouldn't be treated as so.

THANK YOU. This people. Geez, has everyone forgotten the way they described the project when first announced?

Nuff_Said
03-05-2009, 02:23 PM
OK, lets talk about something other than disc swapping.

Did anyone notice that there was no mention of Keyboards. That was a rumor at one time... The only thing the press release says is Guitar, Bass, Mic, and Drums.

i always sort of thought the keyboard would be a cool addition, but hard to implement on to the screen. How many keys would said keyboard have? How much space would have to be alloted to efficiently display it on screen? I think we'll see a keyboard stand alone game before we see it implemented into a band game. Similar to DJ Hero.

Slab Hardcheese
03-05-2009, 02:25 PM
How could they NOT put songs from the White album in this game?

The same way they could neglect to put the three most popular songs from "Nevermind" in.

I have zero faith they will get it right.

recharge138
03-05-2009, 02:28 PM
My theory on the exportability:

I don't think the entire game (45 songs) will export, its just too much by one artist. Possibly buying the game gets you an export/download key for select tracks for Rock Band. Like an albums worth (12-14 songs).

Yeah, some people won't be happy with this, but it'd be better than none. I'm not the hugest Beatles fan, and buying a whole game of theirs with no cross compatibility is daunting. That's just me, luckily there are tons of Beatles fans who will snatch it up regardless.

And yay for our foreign bretheren getting it the same time we do. That's really cool.

MaximumJason
03-05-2009, 02:29 PM
From Joystiq

Update: "Speaking to an MTV representative, we confirmed that despite the "collaborative decision" to append the Rock Band brand, The Beatles will remain a "custom, standalone, dedicated game experience." MTV and Harmonix are not willing to discuss matters regarding DLC or song importation yet."

Damn. No Beatles for me :(

Hopefully this doesn't become a trend.....

davidshek
03-05-2009, 02:30 PM
The same way they could neglect to put the three most popular songs from "Nevermind" in.

I have zero faith they will get it right.

Wow...just wow.

Why do you even bother posting here then?

Nuff_Said
03-05-2009, 02:30 PM
Damn. No Beatles for me :(

Hopefully this doesn't become a trend.....

keyword in that MTV statement: YET

recharge138
03-05-2009, 02:30 PM
The same way they could neglect to put the three most popular songs from "Nevermind" in.

I have zero faith they will get it right.

I disagree with your attitude, but you have an awesome screenname.

toymachineSH
03-05-2009, 02:30 PM
The same way they could neglect to put the three most popular songs from "Nevermind" in.

I have zero faith they will get it right.

I'm pretty sure the people they are working with are more cooperative than Courtney Love :P

BStu78
03-05-2009, 02:31 PM
Export would be amazing, but stand-alone is fine. Obviously, we're going to get something closer to the GH band games, so fine. Export would be amazing, but its not something I need to buy the game. I'd like the content in Rock Band, but at the end of the day its just not a deal breaker.

Deal MAKER, though, would be Paul's Hofner bass. And a rosewood Tele for George. I know its not as iconic as his Rickenbacker, but I want a wireless Telecaster and gosh knows if MadCatz is ever going to do one.

Inception777
03-05-2009, 02:33 PM
The only difference between Yoko and Courtney is Yoko didn't kill John....

BStu78
03-05-2009, 02:35 PM
The same way they could neglect to put the three most popular songs from "Nevermind" in.

I have zero faith they will get it right.

Yes, they "neglected" to put those songs out. They had the rights to them and said, "Nah, who really wants 'Come as You Are' anyway."

Honestly, how people fail to comprehend such an obvious scenario is beyond me.

Demenise
03-05-2009, 02:37 PM
Overpriced, especially for a game with such a small number of songs. The gameplay better be phenomenal.

Catch-22
03-05-2009, 02:37 PM
Overpriced, especially for a game with such a small number of songs. The gameplay better be phenomenal.

No comment has been made on the number of songs unless you're from the future.

Apples
03-05-2009, 02:38 PM
Folks,

We all realize that compatibility/disc swapping is a major hot button issue. But this press release doesn't speak to that. In fact, nothing does.

Suggest keeping to discussion we do know about instead of baseless guessing we don't.

Repeating myself for emphasis. A certain segment of repeat posters are dredging this up again and again with no other intent than to "mix things up."

For all we know it doesn't even have the 4 instrument structure that rock band does. Or it has new mechanics/features which are not exportable/compatible.

In short, if its not a new or original thought on the topic, drop it.

There are so many exciting possibilities besides "will it export or not."

Zefir
03-05-2009, 02:38 PM
I'm pretty sure the people they are working with are more cooperative than Courtney Love :P

A brick wall is more cooperative than Courtney Love.

Ehfahq
03-05-2009, 02:39 PM
They better include Ringos 'peace and love' soundbyte.

peace and love, peace and love

MaximumJason
03-05-2009, 02:42 PM
keyword in that MTV statement: YET

True. But it's starting to sound like they want this to be a completely stand-alone title, which isn't what I was looking for in this project. I'm more for adding to Rock Band 2 since I've invested so much in it already (300+ songs between RB2, RB1, and DLC) and this is going to be more of a dedicated beatles experience.

I use Rock Band as a party game (and don't get me wrong, HMX and thier work is always top notch) and I'd rather have my music library under one game. It's more in line with how I play it.

Hopefully they will be able to add an export option/licence at some point, cause then i'd be first in line to get my copy.

MaximumJason
03-05-2009, 02:44 PM
Repeating myself for emphasis. A certain segment of repeat posters are dredging this up again and again with no other intent than to "mix things up."

For all we know it doesn't even have the 4 instrument structure that rock band does. Or it has new mechanics/features which are not exportable/compatible.

In short, if its not a new or original thought on the topic, drop it.

There are so many exciting possibilities besides "will it export or not."

Agreed :)

recharge138
03-05-2009, 02:44 PM
Hey, I said something new about it!

Anyways, consider it dropped.

Dann
03-05-2009, 02:47 PM
There's been some speculation that the setup will be different for the Beatles RB than standard RB/2. Lead, Rhythm & Bass Guitars may all be featured simultaneously along with Drums. It's going to be quite a screen crunch if that does happen. Heh.

Also - the bundle might well include 2 Guitars as a "Full Set" and again, there's been some speculation that the Beatles Drum Kit might include 2 or 3 Cymbal expansions.

Demenise
03-05-2009, 02:48 PM
No comment has been made on the number of songs unless you're from the future.

So the 45 song setlist was a rumor? :O

whofan
03-05-2009, 02:49 PM
So the 45 song setlist was a rumor? :O
Yeah, one that's been debunked too

bood-boy
03-05-2009, 02:49 PM
I wonder what's with the hardware/bundle.

Price seems higher than past hardware. Maybe for new features?

Still exciting though.

maybe the full bundle has 2 guitars in it this time around?

Dino1626
03-05-2009, 02:50 PM
Here is a couple ideas I thought of when I read the press release this morning.

1. Will there be DLC for this game if in fact it is a stand alone game? There would almost have to be with the huge catalog of music from the Beatles.

2. Will they come out with a keyboard, even if it is not used in every song?

3. Will the character creator be filled with hair/outfits from all of the different stages in the Beatles' career? Will we be able to make the Mop Tops, or Sgt. Peppers, or The Hippy Beatles?

Any thoughts?

Sayburr
03-05-2009, 02:53 PM
So the 45 song setlist was a rumor? :O


Yeah, one that's been debunked too

Rumor: The game will have 45 songs from the EMI catalog ’62-‘69: Link (http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117994943.html?categoryid=19&cs=1)

Debunked: HMXSean said on 10/31/2008 that this rumor is not accurate and they have not told anyone anything about track numbers. Link (http://www.rockband.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1511001&postcount=20)

ThatAuthoringGroup
03-05-2009, 02:56 PM
http://i39.tinypic.com/2i8vyu8.jpg


There was something missing...


Wait....

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-9/371835/2i8vyu8.jpg


That's better ;)

Ranger D
03-05-2009, 02:56 PM
Here is a couple ideas I thought of when I read the press release this morning.

1. Will there be DLC for this game if in fact it is a stand alone game? There would almost have to be with the huge catalog of music from the Beatles.

2. Will they come out with a keyboard, even if it is not used in every song?

3. Will the character creator be filled with hair/outfits from all of the different stages in the Beatles' career? Will we be able to make the Mop Tops, or Sgt. Peppers, or The Hippy Beatles?

Any thoughts?

1. I believe there should be.

2. Why not? The mic in RB isn't used in every song.

3. Most definatly, only makes sense.


I would also add in popular venu's or stage's that some of their most famous concerts and appearances have been.

Mushroom
03-05-2009, 02:58 PM
OOh, here's hoping what they are saying about a worldwide release really happens. It makes it rather likely that the UK will see The Beatles: Rock Band instruments before we see the RB2 instruments. But hey, if they of equal or better quality, I have no problem with that!

Also, the fact that it actually IS Rock Band branded makes Export a little more likely

Dino1626
03-05-2009, 03:04 PM
1. I believe there should be.

2. Why not? The mic in RB isn't used in every song.

3. Most definatly, only makes sense.


I would also add in popular venu's or stage's that some of their most famous concerts and appearances have been.


If they made The Cavern Club venue, that would be awesome.:)

ThePaska
03-05-2009, 03:06 PM
This is just getting me so much more excited for the game, I cannot wait to hear the songlist and how the gameplay is going to work for this game.

I'm hoping for some sweet new venues, and some good gameplay, a decent story mode.

I'm interested to see what instruments they release to buy for the game.

I can't wait until the announcements start!

Extra Beatles DLC down the line would be amazing too!

CaptainFeral
03-05-2009, 03:10 PM
Although I think it's funny that Harmonix is (possibly) being hypocritical by (possibly) not allowing song transportation...
I'm honestly not bothered. I'm a huge Beatles nut. They could release -ebola- with this game and I'd still buy it.

Songs that I really hope are in the game:
-Paperback Writer
-Strawberry Fields Forever
-I Am The Walrus
-Lady Madonna (and I demand that they chart the fake trumpet on vocals)
-Hey Bulldog
-Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds
-Nowhere Man

Each of those songs has all four instruments (although with SFF and I Am The Walrus it's easy to miss the guitar.)

aarononline
03-05-2009, 03:16 PM
Yay, another expansion I couldn't care less about

osteofight
03-05-2009, 03:17 PM
I only sampled a few of the 11 pages here, but here's what I got from the press release:

The Standalone Guitar bundle is no game and 2 guitars.
The full set bundle has 2 guitars, the game, mic and drums.

Any one else (oop: I see bood boy did) read it like that? Makes sense for the full Beatles experience.


Yay, another expansion I couldn't care less about
*eye laser*

Barnaby Fist
03-05-2009, 03:19 PM
The same way they could neglect to put the three most popular songs from "Nevermind" in.

I have zero faith they will get it right.I can't speak for HMX, but I'd say those 3 missing songs weren't a simple oversight.

Besides, a game developed exlcusively to showcase the entire career of The Beatles simply cannot exlude the White album. It's virtually impossible (heresy even).

That's not to say there isn't plenty of room for cynicism. You could still say they won't pick the "right" songs. We all know the prevailing discussion the day the track list comes out won't be about what's IN the game, but rather what's OUT.

Lord_Mhoram
03-05-2009, 03:20 PM
I grew up on the Beatles, and they are one of my favorite bands.

I'm getting this game. Software for sure - I still use a RB1 Drumset, so obviously I don't feel the need to grab the latest instruments. If there is something wicked cool about the guitars, in a gameplay sense... then I'll think about it. But there is only one "famous guitar replica" I would buy because of the fame of the particular guitar.. and it ain't a Beatles guitar*.

Standalone, import - I don't care. I'll buy it and enjoy it - while Rock Band 2 is my favorite music game by miles and miles, I have Aerosmith and the GHs. I'll enjoy a Beatles game.

This was the best news I've heard for video games for a great while. Got a date, and basic info. Can't wait for more.



* The Red Special if anyone is actually interested (Brian May's Guitar)

whofan
03-05-2009, 03:22 PM
I can't speak for HMX, but I'd say those 3 missing songs weren't a simple oversight.

Besides, a game developed exlcusively to showcase the entire career of The Beatles simply cannot exlude the White album. It's virtually impossible (heresy even).

That's not to say there isn't plenty of room for cynicism. You could still say they won't pick the "right" songs. We all know the prevailing discussion the day the track list comes out won't be about what's IN the game, but rather what's OUT.
Yeah, agreed that there are undoubtedly going to be some classics missed (please note HMX, you'd better include "Rain"!) and that some people are going to be pissed off about that. But I've discovered long ago that life is a lot easier provided you don't get all that worked up about it. If the disc does well enough, it *may* lead to something more somewhere down the line.

whofan
03-05-2009, 03:23 PM
Although I think it's funny that Harmonix is (possibly) being hypocritical by (possibly) not allowing song transportation...
I'm honestly not bothered. I'm a huge Beatles nut. They could release -ebola- with this game and I'd still buy it.

Songs that I really hope are in the game:
-Paperback Writer
-Strawberry Fields Forever
-I Am The Walrus
-Lady Madonna (and I demand that they chart the fake trumpet on vocals)
-Hey Bulldog
-Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds
-Nowhere Man

Each of those songs has all four instruments (although with SFF and I Am The Walrus it's easy to miss the guitar.)
Harmonix isn't being hypocritical at all. They've never said boo about standalone games based on artists, it's people assuming that they're against that that are now leveling accusations of hypocracy against them.

Caedrus
03-05-2009, 03:27 PM
Sorry Apples, but something that hasn't been said much in the 20 pages here is that as far as the game itself goes, some of us aren't interested in the rise of the Beatles.

As the comment earlier wrote so aptly, yes. There are those of us under twenty-five who know virtually nothing about the Beatles, nor are they very inclined to figure it out. At least to that crowd, the export feature is everything, because I don't play a music game to listen to the storyline. I play it to solely to listen to the music. Not to appreciate it, but to enjoy it. (Which in my mind is a completely separate thing.)

Like other people said, its why my Guitar Hero games have sat in a disc folder and been played once each with the exception of GH3 which has been played... twice? Thrice? Long enough to beat it once and never go back.

It's why I haven't played RttH or Enter Sandman since RB2 was released. As good as the music is, there's so much music on RB2 in such a wider variety that it isn't worthwhile to me to even pull these games out anymore. I have ~600 songs with hundreds more coming, enough that if I were to play the game every day for the rest of the year for an hour I may very well never play the same song twice in a random setlist. And that's what I love about the Rock Band franchise. I can place music I hate and still enjoy it because its something new and fresh every time. Keeping things growing in a giant library keeps the game from becomming stagnant.

And to the flip side of the ranom setlist, comes the make a setlist. I like being able to choose songs I love, and having my friends be able to choose songs they love, so that when we do a four person band with a four-make-a-setlist, we each get to choose what we want. And I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but I'm not going to like every Beatles song there is. And I'm sure none of my friends will like all of them either; we're going to want to be able to pick our favorites, mix them with the rest of our favorites from the RB2 library, and roll out a day worth of rocking to what we love. (Which constitutes right now about 50 out of 600).

That's the brilliance of Rock Band; if you're feeling adventorous, you can hit the mystery button and see where it takes you. Get something new every time, if you invest the money into keeping a large DLC library. But if you're feeling something entirely different, its right there waiting for you, the same ole' songs you know and love. You don't have to search for them between five or six different stand alone games like in the GH series.

We don't give a damn about the effort to swap discs. My xbox sits approximately one foot from the chair in which I play it in and the discs sit within six inches of the xbox. What matters is the fluidity; the ability to mix and match what we like and what we haven't tried yet, to play music we love and exclude what we don't from a giant set. (Which is why I think the AC/DC track was a huge success for my band; we definitely don't like all of those songs, but some of them are classic and you just can't pass them up.)

Cheers; keep it friendly. Export for Beatles! <3

irvinekinneas85
03-05-2009, 03:28 PM
we want a little bit of the trackliiiiiiiist !!! i hope there will be Let it be and Hey Jude...

osteofight
03-05-2009, 03:28 PM
Yeah, agreed that there are undoubtedly going to be some classics missed (please note HMX, you'd better include "Rain"!) and that some people are going to be pissed off about that. But I've discovered long ago that life is a lot easier provided you don't get all that worked up about it. If the disc does well enough, it *may* lead to something more somewhere down the line.

There will be shootstorms of epic proportions when the game is out because every Beatles song is someone's favorite. There'll be "omg where's piggies?!," "omg where's and your bird can sing!?" and even the misguided "omg where's maybe i'm amazed?!"

ThePaska
03-05-2009, 03:29 PM
Yay, another expansion I couldn't care less about

Not an expansion, it is it's own game.

Going to be interesting to see which songs they choose, I wonder if there will ever be some DLC.

Nuff_Said
03-05-2009, 03:31 PM
Yay, another expansion I couldn't care less about

ah, good thing for you it's not an expansion, but a whole new game.

jeccaneko
03-05-2009, 03:32 PM
Did anyone notice that there was no mention of Keyboards. That was a rumor at one time... The only thing the press release says is Guitar, Bass, Mic, and Drums.

Well, it was a rumor. It was never confirmed. I did hope it was true though. I would've bought another peripheral for that. As it stands, I don't plan to buy any of the new peripherals. It's seriously hard to beat what I've already got with the Ion, a Shure SM-57 mic, and a variety of guitars. Only way I'll change my mind is if these new peripherals add in a fun optional gameplay bit (kinda equivalent to Strat solo buttons or drum cymbals).

About the disc swapping issue I don't care. It'd be nice if I can do everything in one game but if not, who cares.

CaptainFeral
03-05-2009, 03:32 PM
we want a little bit of the trackliiiiiiiist !!! i hope there will be Let it be and Hey Jude...

Let It Be already confirmed to not be in the game.
Any songs from the album, actually.

I'd imagine it's because of how everyone's favorite murderer-producer mixed the CD.

Rockox
03-05-2009, 03:33 PM
I'm getting this game whether or not the songs are exportable. BRING ON THE BEATLES EXPERIENCE!!!

What about a 2nd mic for harmony vocals?

osteofight
03-05-2009, 03:37 PM
Let It Be already confirmed to not be in the game.
Any songs from the album, actually.

*eye laser*
Edit: Upon further review of the evidence or lack thereof, eye laser stands.

AutoShop
03-05-2009, 03:38 PM
Wonderful, wonderful, wonderful!

Guys you simply out do others. And launching with a worldwide release date well before Christmas on all three platforms with a brand new set of instruments, truly you are spoiling us HMX.

As not just a HMX fan, but a music fan you make me very happy.

Hopefully you will enthuse the excitement of the LOVE album with the romp through Beatles history and the spine tingling riffs, solo's, vocals. gain. Thank you again.

Also - Love the immensly classy website listing 09.09.09, very seriously cool.

CaptainFeral
03-05-2009, 03:38 PM
*eye laser*

It's right there in the announcement.
Look at the albums they're getting songs from.

Sayburr
03-05-2009, 03:39 PM
Let It Be already confirmed to not be in the game.
Any songs from the album, actually.

I'd imagine it's because of how everyone's favorite murderer-producer mixed the CD. Maybe... I wouldn't say confirmed since the album was recorded before Abby Road.

recharge138
03-05-2009, 03:41 PM
So, when's Activision and HMX going to collaborate on a Beatallica game?

Come on! I'm dying to play "The Thing That Should Not Let it Be."

l-o-t
03-05-2009, 03:41 PM
Anybody else notice the release date is "Number 9, Number 9, Number 9"?That's only five days after my nineteenth birthday! I can Play this and get drunk!
Anyway, I think I may have to spring for the special Bundle. Being a religious Beatles Fan and all. Good to see some further information. This looks promising!
Don't Let Me Down, Harmonix!

Skubala
03-05-2009, 03:46 PM
you can play every video game you own without switching discs? That's amazing. What system do you own?

I have an elite xbox360 and it has an option to d/l game content to the hdd instead of playing disc.

Ramirez16
03-05-2009, 03:47 PM
Let It Be already confirmed to not be in the game.
Any songs from the album, actually.

I'd imagine it's because of how everyone's favorite murderer-producer mixed the CD.That sucks if that's true. Put Let It Be...Naked tracks in there. Two of Us would be an awesome track for two to sing.

Okay this is all I ask for:

1. Learn from GH:M's mistake and put rhythm guitar in the game. Of course it's not as cool as playing both guitars in a Metallica game but it's needed for this one.

2. Put backup/duet vocals in the appropriate tracks.

3. If there is going to be controllers that look at Harrison's and Lennon's guitars then please allow a choice of which one we might want (assume it's only Guitar, Bass, Drums, and Mic in the bundle). I would rather have Harrison and wouldn't really like having to buy it for $99.

That's all for now :o

Nuff_Said
03-05-2009, 03:52 PM
I have an elite xbox360 and it has an option to d/l game content to the hdd instead of playing disc.

so do i, but you still have to change the discs out to verify the copy you own. And, every xbox has this, not just the elites.

whofan
03-05-2009, 03:57 PM
Let It Be already confirmed to not be in the game.
Any songs from the album, actually.

I'd imagine it's because of how everyone's favorite murderer-producer mixed the CD.
/facepalm

"Let It Be" was recorded BEFORE Abbey Road, and is thus included in the statement of it will include tracks from 1963-1969.

*Sigh* How many times will I have to explain this!

Fizzeler
03-05-2009, 04:00 PM
Will definitely reserve when I go to Gamestop next to pick up RE: 5 probably the guitar bundle :)
This is great news :)

Dino1626
03-05-2009, 04:08 PM
Let It Be already confirmed to not be in the game.
Any songs from the album, actually.

I'd imagine it's because of how everyone's favorite murderer-producer mixed the CD.

Where was this confirmed?

Julio_Strikes_Back
03-05-2009, 04:25 PM
Is the studio wankery on the Beatles Rock Band website from Anthology?

Way to pique my interest but say nothing new, HMX. :p I'm even more pumped for this game now.

Sayburr
03-05-2009, 04:26 PM
Where was this confirmed? The Press Conference had this:

Game will take from the Beatles' first album "Please Please Me" all the way to "Abbey Road." And will be based on the UK releases. Link (http://blog.wired.com/games/2008/10/live-blog-the-b.html)

But the album was actually finished before Abbey Roac:

The original L.P. was "finished" at the end of May 1969 and entitled "Get Back - with Let It Be and 11 other songs", this version was rejected by the Beatles, even though they even prepared the cover. This included recreating the "Please Please Me" pose on the E.M.I. balcony, which wasn't a wasted shoot, as this was eventually used on the 1973 compilation "Red" and "Blue" albums.
Seven months later, on 5th January 1970, Glyn Johns prepared a a second version of the album "Get Back", but this too was rejected and remains unreleased officially,

By March 1970 Phil Spector was brought in, and it was he who produced the final official release, "Let It Be".

ElvisChapelGuy
03-05-2009, 04:35 PM
In my world, there is music and then there is Beatles' music. They don't meet or mingle in any way. That's the just the way it is. For that same reason, I see no need for HMX to make the songs exportable for use in Rock Band. I know that sounds odd. But, the Beatles are a religion to me. In fact, all 4 of my kids are named after Beatles. I guess I'm an oddball. LOL!

Fennz
03-05-2009, 04:49 PM
I'm not sure if this has been mentioned yet, but did anyone notice the price for the bundle $249.99? REALLY????

Sayburr
03-05-2009, 04:56 PM
I'm not sure if this has been mentioned yet, but did anyone notice the price for the bundle $249.99? REALLY???? Yeah, makes you wonder whats in there, don't it?

Nuff_Said
03-05-2009, 04:57 PM
I'm not sure if this has been mentioned yet, but did anyone notice the price for the bundle $249.99? REALLY????


well the thread consensus is that it's probably got 2 guitars in the bundle as opposed to just one.

HeyRiles
03-05-2009, 04:58 PM
Obviously the best thing about this press release is simultaneous release worldwide. The $100 guitar confuses me a bit though, is it going to be or look any different from the Sunburst Strat, I wonder?


well the thread consensus is that it's probably got 2 guitars in the bundle as opposed to just one.

That doesn't explain why standalone guitars are $20 more expensive

jeronemitchell
03-05-2009, 05:06 PM
I'm not that big of a fan of the Beatles, but I would guess that some of my friends that come over to play may enjoy them. I need more details before I would make a call...

whofan
03-05-2009, 05:06 PM
Obviously the best thing about this press release is simultaneous release worldwide. The $100 guitar confuses me a bit though, is it going to be or look any different from the Sunburst Strat, I wonder?



That doesn't explain why standalone guitars are $20 more expensive
Probably because of increased licencing costs for a Hoffner/Rickenbacher guitar.

mimic
03-05-2009, 05:09 PM
I won't be preordering anything till I find out if the songs can be exported to rock band. If not, no sale. PLATFORM.

HeyRiles
03-05-2009, 05:11 PM
Probably because of increased licencing costs for a Hoffner/Rickenbacher guitar.

So you think it's going to be a different plastic guitar? That would be cool

Alright_Computer
03-05-2009, 05:14 PM
Well, this is awesome. The release date is WIN, by the way. If you don't get the significance of the release date, then you aren't really a Beatlemaniac.

mimic
03-05-2009, 05:17 PM
This isn't some AC/DC track pack though. I have a feeling that The people that represent the Beatles et al. Wouldn't be too fond of DLC from Devil Driver and Megadeth being able to be played in their game.

I'm thinking this is going to be like Guitar Hero: Aerosmith but you know 40000000000x better. :D

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and guess that you aren't right in the head. You seem to be the only one who wants disc swapping. Do you enjoy changing discs? I don't really see any benefit in it. So maybe you should just stfu.

ThePaska
03-05-2009, 05:27 PM
well the thread consensus is that it's probably got 2 guitars in the bundle as opposed to just one.

I could see it being either two guitars...or else a guitar and a bass.


Also I doubt there is going to be exporting to Rock Band. Haven't they already stated that it will be its own stand alone game?

Brent212
03-05-2009, 05:36 PM
Is it just me, or does the press release not make clear whether these songs will be able to be imported into Rock Band 2, like the AC/DC disc, or whether they'll have to be played separately?

I think it's obvious that if they don't mention it, importing won't be an option. That's a huge selling point for many potential buyers, so if the option was there, they'd make sure you knew it.

I love the Beatles, but wouldn't be super excited to play their songs in RB. I probably wouldn't get the game even if they were importable, because of the ridiculously high price for probably five songs I actually want. Since they're not importable there's no way I'd even consider it. I'd never get the big enough urge to play a Beatles song that would make me want to switch discs to play one or two songs (not interested in playing a Beatles marathon).

Bearclaw
03-05-2009, 05:41 PM
Interesting new guitar sounds interesting.

I was under the impression that it was not going to be branded under Rock Band...

mimic
03-05-2009, 05:41 PM
I have been reading all the hubbub about why some hate all this.

You know what? If you dont like it, don't buy it. I don't like metal, so I don't buy it. Don't like Snoop, so I wont buy that either.

So what? Are you gonna lose sleep over that? NO. And I wont lose sleep over you not buying the Beatles either.

I would imagine that those who are complaining are under 25. I grew up with the Beatles--they changed music, wheather YOU like it or not. They are to be respected....PERIOD. No questions. A game dedicated to them is, in MY mind at least, one of the least things that can be done. They were, and are, one of the BEST things that happened to music.

So is our game. We have the BEST music game there is. Sure, it could be improved (I still want our stars back, and a way to delete songs) and sure wish they would put a patch out for those, but its a hell of a lot better than the way GH lovers were treated when WT was put out, wasn't it? And they are STILL complaining!!!!

Grow up. LOVE our game. Respect the Beatles...download your own music, and leave us to ours.

Nuff said.

It does effect them. If you don't like the beatles then you could just not buy it and buy rock band 3 instead. Had they made it, which they aren't, cause they are spending their time on the beatles. That's why people are hating.

I don't mind the beatles. So that makes me in the camp of this game annoys me for delaying rock band 3 but I'll still buy it if they keep the platform idea intact.

I love how that troll said the people who are saying they won't buy it if it's not exportable are full of it and that they will. You're welcome to check my gamertag come september to see ;)

HeyRiles
03-05-2009, 05:44 PM
It does effect them. If you don't like the beatles then you could just not buy it and buy rock band 3 instead. Had they made it, which they aren't, cause they are spending their time on the beatles. That's why people are hating.

I don't mind the beatles. So that makes me in the camp of this game annoys me for delaying rock band 3 but I'll still buy it if they keep the platform idea intact.

I love how that troll said the people who are saying they won't buy it if it's not exportable are full of it and that they will. You're welcome to check my gamertag come september to see ;)

First of all, it's 'affect'

Secondly, why do you want another Rock Band so terribly

HyeJinx1984
03-05-2009, 05:48 PM
So, all that blue-in-the-face complaining I did that the HMX Beatles project was NOT going to be a Rock Band expansion was either absolutely for nothing (cause they were gonna do it anyway) or completely victorious (cause they did it!). Either way, I'm ecstatic the the Beatles are coming to the ROCK BAND platform!!! :D

HeyRiles
03-05-2009, 05:50 PM
So, all that blue-in-the-face complaining I did that the HMX Beatles project was NOT going to be a Rock Band expansion was either absolutely for nothing (cause they were gonna do it anyway) or completely victorious (cause they did it!). Either way, I'm ecstatic the the Beatles are coming to the ROCK BAND platform!!! :D

Yeah, quite a difference from when it was announced it wouldn't be branded as a Rock Band game. Very classy to put The Beatles in front of Rock Band though

CJHobbes
03-05-2009, 05:53 PM
Well, this is awesome. The release date is WIN, by the way. If you don't get the significance of the release date, then you aren't really a Beatlemaniac.

I'm still trying to figure out what the Beatles have to do with 9 (http://9themovie.com/splash/). :D

I kid I kid!!! I am hoping this game turns out to be everything the fans want it to be. I'm admittedly not the biggest Beatles fan around, though I do realize the influence they have had on modern music. What may get me to purchase it is if there is a bit of a storyline, and if they happen to go back and recreate the band's rise to the top by authentically recreating the venues, setlists, etc.

Also, as far as character creation, why wouldn't they just model the members and then, as the band progresses through the story, you get to see the characters age? Perhaps they'll have a little shop where you can purchase a few different outfits for the Beatles. I'm not sure if they'd allow a fully fleshed out character creation system for a stand-alone game where a single band is featured.

Unless they mentioned it in an official release; then my entire previous paragraph is moot.

You know what might be a fun feature? A choose-your-own-adventure RPGish type game where you have a story arc for Yoko, and one of the choices is to "just say no." This opens up another world-wide tour where unreleased Beatles tracks are played as if the band had never broken up. I'm just saying...:D

Meatwad555
03-05-2009, 05:53 PM
That's a pretty weird name.

HyeJinx1984
03-05-2009, 05:54 PM
Yea, though there is a precedent for putting the band name before the franchise, after all it was "AC/DC Live - Rock Band Track Pack" not "Rock Band Track Pack: AC/DC Live" :P although... I didn't notice anything in the press release about being able to export songs *shrug*

whofan
03-05-2009, 05:57 PM
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and guess that you aren't right in the head. You seem to be the only one who wants disc swapping. Do you enjoy changing discs? I don't really see any benefit in it. So maybe you should just stfu.
Dude, that was completely uncalled for.

Honestly, if you have to switch discs, it's not the end of the world. It's inconvenient, and may turn some people off, but it's not the end of the world. And Toymachine isn't the only one saying their fine with disc swapping. There are many people in this thread who are all saying that they're going to get it regardless of whether or not it imports/exports.

HeyRiles
03-05-2009, 05:59 PM
Yea, though there is a precedent for putting the band name before the franchise, after all it was "AC/DC Live - Rock Band Track Pack" not "Rock Band Track Pack: AC/DC Live" :P although... I didn't notice anything in the press release about being able to export songs *shrug*

Guitar Hero: Aerosmith and Guitar Hero: Metallica would like to have a word with you

Smidget
03-05-2009, 06:02 PM
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and guess that you aren't right in the head. You seem to be the only one who wants disc swapping. Do you enjoy changing discs? I don't really see any benefit in it. So maybe you should just stfu.

What his statement was supposed to convey is that, from what HMX has stated before about this project, it is going to be a completely new game separate from Rock Band with a unique interactive experience different from what we're used to. The only problem is the "Rock Band" they threw on the end of the title because I agree with you, HMX originally pitched the Rock Band idea to players/customers as it being a "platform." IF they had not added Rock Band at the end of the title then everyone in here screaming about exporting songs would need to be the ones to stfu because HMX is a developer and there's no reason they shouldn't be making games separate from RB without getting yelled at by people who think HMX owes them something (not saying this is you, your argument about platform is completely valid). This is what the Beatles project was originally announced to us as and even though the added Rock Band at the end of the title may very well just be for brand recognition to help it sell better, for the time being, without any other info, they've brought this immediate reaction upon themselves. I am guessing that they will eventually put out some information that says exactly all that though, that its not meant to be part of the RB platform, even though "Rock Band" is in the title.

So that's the main argument against the whole song exporting, that this is a completely separate game and, due to the still unnanounced unique gameplay/functionality, it may not even be possible to export them into RB because it could possibly not be the normal "4 note charts per song" kind of thing at all. But without further info there's just no way to tell and unfortunately, adding "Rock Band" to the title isn't going to help reactions from now until that info is released. Or at least until a simple statement saying "this is not part of the RB platform" is released. That's all it would take. The RB platform has forced HMX's customers into buying peripherals. It's smart for them to make their other game projects work with those peripherals. But just because they work with them doesn't mean that this game is automatically part of one of their past projects. they want you to be able to play their new porjects with the peripherals they've already asked you to buy in the past.

HyeJinx1984
03-05-2009, 06:02 PM
Guitar Hero: Aerosmith and Guitar Hero: Metallica would like to have a word with you

What hero? I don't know what you're talking about...

karaokefreak
03-05-2009, 06:04 PM
Personally, I am very excited about the beatles game. I love the Beatles and I am going to get that Disc no matter what. Still hope that the songs can be exported, because it would make a lot of sense to have those Songs in Rock Band 2. And if not the whole Disc, then maybe the most popular 20 or whatever... Anyway, I am sold on this...Even with disc swapping :D


The only thing I fear is that the european price of the bundle might be extraordinary high. Normally european publishers just change the $ for a € and that would mean 250 Euros or more for us. Rock Band 1 proved that most customers are not willing to pay that much for a music game.

BUT, the european prices are to be announced soon, and I really hope HMX makes the right decision. 199 Euros (like GHWT) should do, as long as the game is included.

Anyway, looking forward to this game. It's only six months!

GalloKaze
03-05-2009, 06:06 PM
last time i checked NO Wii GAME sells for $59.99!

HyeJinx1984
03-05-2009, 06:08 PM
I don't know why it wouldn't be exportable, because originally we were in the dark about how the game would actually work since it was a "new creative experiment" or whatever... but since they're saying out right that it works with standard music game peripherals, well, there's not reason why it wouldn't just fit along side other Rock Band songs.