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ManOwaR

12-03-2007, 08:30 AM

My friend DLed the metalica pack, I DLed from his account on My PS3 when he came over.

Then when he was at his house and I at mine we played the song online. So, you really can use the PS3 "5 friends" rule with online play.. at least for now.

Nishidake

12-03-2007, 08:49 AM

Sweet! Too bad I don't even know one other person with a PS3 and Rock Band. Although count on Sony to plug this one up pretty quick.

davidshek

12-03-2007, 08:52 AM

Sweet! Too bad I don't even know one other person with a PS3 and Rock Band. Although count on Sony to plug this one up pretty quick.

I'm sure you're right. What the OP described is pretty much piracy. Same as buying a CD and then burning a copy for your buddy.

Edit: Ok apparently I'm talking outta my ass, as I am unaware of this '5 friends rule' for PS3...what is it? :)

Nate Finch

12-03-2007, 08:53 AM

Sweet! Too bad I don't even know one other person with a PS3 and Rock Band.

Ditto, except you can stop after the part about not knowing one other person with a PS3. And my friends are all gamers with disposable income, too. Bunch of slackers, not getting PS3s so I can have someone to rock out with... ;)

Although count on Sony to plug this one up pretty quick.

Don't count on it. The 5 friends rule is there for other for-pay content, why not rock band's?

Nate Finch

12-03-2007, 08:56 AM

I'm sure you're right. What the OP described is pretty much piracy. Same as buying a CD and then burning a copy for your buddy.

Edit: Ok apparently I'm talking outta my ass, as I am unaware of this '5 friends rule' for PS3...what is it? :)

Basically, for much of Sony's online content, you can share the download with up to 5 other people and only pay for it once. This goes for all downloadable games (except for Warhawk)... I'm not sure if it works with additional downloadable content to existing games, though. Someone else will have to answer that one.

Anyway, it's not piracy, it's 100% endorsed and supported by Sony. PSN for the win! :)

jq715861

12-03-2007, 08:58 AM

This is why I love my PS3. <3 lol.

Quastor

12-03-2007, 09:01 AM

Anyway, it's not piracy, it's 100% endorsed and supported by Sony. PSN for the win! :)

Supported by Sony Computer Entertainment. Not Universal, Sony BMG, or Warner. I very much doubt the record companies are going to let people give out their song free 4 times for a revenue of just one song. And, now that you've posted on the official forum that this works, if it weren't at the attention of Harmonix already, it certainly will be now. Since Warhawk isn't included under the 5 friends thing, I would expect Rock Band DLC to follow suit shortly.

dragulaAC

12-03-2007, 09:11 AM

M3wThr33

12-03-2007, 09:34 AM

No. It's DESIGNED for sharing. Individual developers can block such things from happening. Sony has specifically stated this was their intent.

Nate Finch

12-03-2007, 09:55 AM

It's designed to accommodate for possibly having to reformat your PS3 harddrive. Or if it got wiped on accident, you aren't screwed out of stuff you purchased. They aren't going to change it, they did it this way for a reason, and aren't stupid enough to just not realize what could be done with it. If you want to throw away your extra downloads, then you can kick your own ass when something happens to your harddrive and you're out of downloads for your purchased content and have to pay for it again.

Actually, no, that's not what it's for. You can always redownload what you've already paid for. Sony records it online with your Id. Also, you can make backups if you're worried, though all you can lose permanently is game saves.

Sharing is just for that - sharing.

Tarzanman

12-03-2007, 09:58 AM

The hope is that the liberal policy will entice more people to buy downloadable content...

So for example, lets assume that Jeff and Kirk both have Death Blaster X for their PS3... while a $7.49 downloadable expansion might not seem like it is worth it to either of them individually.... they just might purchase it if they split the cost amongst themselves at $3.25 apiece.

I imagine that once the PS3 owners become more accustomed to buying DLC, that the licensing on the content will get a little bit more strict for certain games.

NotorietyH

12-03-2007, 10:02 AM

So for example, lets assume that Jeff and Kirk both have Death Blaster X for their PS3...

I want that game! Sounds retro-cool!

toefer

12-03-2007, 10:05 AM

Warhawk is not excluded. You can download Warhawk on 5 systems, the same as anything else. The only difference is if you download it on a new console, you can't play it on the previous one for 24 hours, or something like that.

Kevhouse

12-03-2007, 10:08 AM

Even when you're downloading music on iTunes, it allows you to authorize it on up to 5 computers. This is assuming you own all 5 computers, but I'm sure there's freeloaders out there just like this. It's not all that new guys. And it's not piracy if it's been stated that sony has no problem with it, like some others have said.

AVC808

12-03-2007, 10:34 AM

i dont think its for sharing with friends, i think it's for the original purchaser to have access to it from different consoles. so in that sense it could be looked at as sharing. when my friend got calling all cars a couple of us had him DL to our ps3s. we could play the local version fine, but i dont think we could go online with it unless we were signed in as him.

i guess this is a problem with rock band DLC, since technically they cant force you to go online to play it. not yet anyway.

Nishidake

12-03-2007, 10:41 AM

Ditto, except you can stop after the part about not knowing one other person with a PS3. And my friends are all gamers with disposable income, too. Bunch of slackers, not getting PS3s so I can have someone to rock out with... ;)

Don't count on it. The 5 friends rule is there for other for-pay content, why not rock band's?

I knew a few people with PS3's but none of them have Rock Band. Losers.

Anyway, I expect that Sony will plug this hole because it's a licensing issue where both Sony and the record labels are losing money. Sony may not care if you share a crappy PS1 version of Crash Bandicoot with anybody, but Metallica, for example (who is notorious for being strongly opposed to any digital sharing of their music, for being thick as thieves with the RIAA and for almost single-handedly shutting down Napster...in fact I was surprised that they showed up on this game at all, though it's only cause they know for sure they'll get paid...), might take exception to you sharing their 3-song pack with five of your buds to the tune of $5.50.

I mean they plugged this hole with Warhawk (http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3162392), which is one $40 game and not a platform that the devs are looking to make a lots of revenue each year off of every user with DLC.

piggy171

12-03-2007, 10:50 AM

SheepStampede

12-03-2007, 11:02 AM

Well this link from Sony seems pretty direct and after some Froogle searching it seems the masses agree that yes, you can have 1 paid DL on 5 PS3 consoles.

http://playstation.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/playstation.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=227&p_created=1163752619&p_sid=jzgg4BBi&p_accessibility=0&p_lva=228&p_sp=cF9zcmNoPTEmcF9zb3J0X2J5PSZwX2dyaWRzb3J0PSZwX 3Jvd19jbnQ9MzAmcF9wcm9kcz0xMTYmcF9jYXRzPTAmcF9wdj0 xLjExNiZwX2N2PSZwX3BhZ2U9MSZwX3NlYXJjaF90ZXh0PWdhb WUgc2hhcmU*&p_li=&p_topview=1

EDIT: Wow that is a great link below Finch. It's secure as can be, you just end up with a big list of usernames unless you have a group that does alot of it.

Nate Finch

12-03-2007, 11:10 AM

OK, I have never heard of the 5 friend rule before. So how exactly do you DL content to someone elses PS3? Also, does anyone want to send me some DLC? Maybe we make a deal, You buy a pack and share, I will buy the next one!

People on ps3forums.com do it all the time.

This is a *great* thread about it: http://ps3forums.com/showthread.php?t=59032

Sharing/downloading is tied to a PSN user id, but you can make a new ID per game if you want, and you can use the game from any ID.

Magnet

12-03-2007, 11:35 AM

This isn't something the developers and publishers could ever have overlooked. When you're licensing music for DLC from major record labels, there's going to be lawyers inspecting every aspect of the online services for the 360 and PS3 long before licensing is ever granted. If the Rock Band DLC for the PS3 is not deliberately restricted to one console, then it was intended to follow the standard download formula for PSN content.

Joke

12-03-2007, 11:51 AM

Who really cares?

It's possible, it's there, and it's awesome (for now).

SoulScreme

12-03-2007, 11:55 AM

I just hope that if they try to fix this they don't disable the ability for multiple accounts on the same PS3 to access DLC, That's all I care about.

SheepStampede

12-03-2007, 12:15 PM

I would like to add that this sales model is great. I mean, I bought the Metallica pack, but not the others, and probably won't so they get $5.50 from me.

There's probably somewhere out there 4 other people in the same boat, 1 pack a piece is $27.50 for them total.

If us 5 people would've got together, we'd most likely just get it all and share it, because why wouldn't you get it all and it's win-win for all involved.
They make $39.50 from our purchases (for all available through this week ) and we make out with the bunch for $8 apiece.

Now that is a great business plan.

bmore007

12-03-2007, 12:15 PM

Way to post this on the official rock band board guys, way to go, make them aware of a good thing that they're going to take away now

AVC808

12-03-2007, 12:18 PM

Way to post this on the official rock band board guys, way to go, make them aware of a good thing that they're going to take away now
it was bound to happen. some noob would have eventually posted "how do i get free DLC" i heard you can share DLC?
"who wants to trade DLC" etc.

ManOwaR

12-04-2007, 01:02 AM

Or Maybe the PS3 actually does their business that way? Step out of the darkness, and into the light!

Nate Finch

12-04-2007, 01:07 AM

I just wish I'd thought to try this before spending $40 on all the DLC on my main account. Oh well.

AeroTrain

12-04-2007, 04:38 AM

I'm sure you're right. What the OP described is pretty much piracy. Same as buying a CD and then burning a copy for your buddy.

Actually, I believe making a copy for a friend is considered perfectly legal! This issue was settled in the 80's when tape players started including dubbing features. It's this sharing with friends law that is at the center of the internet sharing program cases. they argue that they just have a lot of friends.

Unfortunatly the governement hasn't seen yet that technology has made the current/past business model used by the record companies completly obsolete.

The main function of record companies originally was a means of copying and distributing music. Computers now make copying/distribution somthing anyone can do in their own home. There is no need for record companies any longer, except perhaps in a permotional role.

Artists deserve royalties for anything that uses thier music to make a profit. Radio, Movies, Advertising... They also can make millions from actually doing a tour and performing their music. We don't have to compensate artists for every single copy of thier music ever made in order to inspire creativity. Musicians were creating great music long before record companies entered the picture.

End rant that no one will bother to read all of anyway.

Bluvox

12-04-2007, 05:11 AM

Actually, I believe making a copy for a friend is considered perfectly legal! This issue was settled in the 80's when tape players started including dubbing features. It's this sharing with friends law that is at the center of the internet sharing program cases. they argue that they just have a lot of friends.

Fair use was hacked to bits in the Digital Millineum Copyright Act (DMCA). That's how the RIAA can sue folks directly for downloaded songs.

I'd say that the "5 friends" rule is being stretched by some of the other links given, it's pretty fair overall. Interesting concept, and definitely a plus on the PS3 overall. Time will tell if developers like it as much as Sony does, or if Sony will start plugging that up over time.

My only thought - what's the difference between 5 people sharing the $40 content and HMX just pricing it at $8 instead of $40? I'd bet more than just the folks doing the sharing would bite on more at that price. Once it's up for download the lion's share of the work has been done, it's down to how much PSN or XBL get of the download versus the dev's, and how much the dev costs are, where the break even point is, etc.

DesiredFX

12-04-2007, 05:19 AM

My only thought - what's the difference between 5 people sharing the $40 content and HMX just pricing it at $8 instead of $40? I'd bet more than just the folks doing the sharing would bite on more at that price.

It hasn't really impacted me. I've spent about $50 on downloads and DLC at the site, and what really gets people to buy is the "I can have it right now?" mentality. Even if five of my PS3 buddies want to share it, the contortions that you have to go through to get it on all five machines make it a lot less likely that people will take advantage of the feature--it's not as simple as "go to the PlayStation Store and enter this friend code."

In fact, one guy recently got ripped off by a "friend" who logged into his account to share a download and recorded the guy's credit card information while he was there. Before the generous guy knew it, he had bought $600 worth of stuff--all kinds of stuff, not just DLC--for his new "friend."

EDIT: the PSN of the guy who perpetrated this particular ripoff is CARNAGE_187. He's probably had his account canceled (among other things), but forewarned is forearmed.

LoneBal

12-04-2007, 05:36 AM

DLC can be shared easily, and it's in the terms of the agreement that you can download content on up to 5 machines. The only caveat to this I have seen was with Warhawk, in that it's only one copy per 24 hours can be logged in or something.

But with the rest of the stuff, you have your buddy's account on your machine, and log in as him/her online, go to their download list and download anything they already have paid for (or free downloads too, but that would be pointless). You can download to your own machine as many times as you want...in case you want to delete it for some space, or replace the hard drive for whatever reason. It looks at the MAC Address of your PS3, which isn't going to change even if the hard drive does, and links each MAC Address the content got downloaded to with your account.

Now, I would not recommend doing this with anyone you don't know personally or don't trust. Because at the time, they would have access to your account, like your credit card information. You can always change your password, or whatever, but that can become a pain to do each time. But the stuff does work online then using your own ID, you only need their account to download the stuff, in the same way stuff you download works for any user on your machine, not just the one that downloaded it.

DesiredFX

12-04-2007, 05:43 AM

Because at the time, they would have access to your account, like credit card information. You can always change your password, or whatever, but that can become a pain to do each time.

This is why I find your initial assertion of "shared easily" to be kind of iffy. It would be much better if the DLC granted you a friend code you could hand out to whoever wanted it, and the code would deactivate after it had been used five times.

But I think they keep it as complex as they do as a way to keep sharing down, frankly. It's just too much to go through to save a couple bucks. Doing it once or twice a year is no big deal, but doing it every week would be really irritating.

Kevhouse

12-05-2007, 08:56 AM

Actually, I believe making a copy for a friend is considered perfectly legal! T

what country do you live in???? because here in the US, it's illegal all the way through it. You are allowed to make backups of the CDs you legally own, but once you give away a backup it's considered illegal. It doesn't matter if it's putting it on a P2P network, torrent, or burning a copy for your neighbor. Also, if you give away the original, you must get rid of any backups you have under law. Of course, people will do this anyway, and definitely won't get busted for it, but it's technically illegal.

Back on topic...
I think the 5 friend idea is a good strategy for business. I mean, the PS3 could use a better edge against the 360, and this could seal the deal for some people.

sa_nick

01-08-2008, 05:01 AM

Hey All!

Just wondering if there's anyone out there who has all/some/any of the DLC and would be willing to share it with me. I live in Australia and although I can access the US PSN store I can't purchase anything as I don't have a US credit card.

Apples (as awesome as he is) closed down the last thread and will probably close down this one, but if anyone out there can give me a hand please send me an email

Cheers!

Ventura

01-08-2008, 05:09 AM

Just wondering if there's anyone out there who has all/some/any of the DLC and would be willing to share it with me. I live in Australia and although I can access the US PSN store I can't purchase anything as I don't have a US credit card.

Apples (as awesome as he is) closed down the last thread and will probably close down this one, but if anyone out there can give me a hand please send me an email.

Cheers!

You bugger, you beat me to it.

I was about to do the same thing, for the same reason. Without a valid US credit card, we can't buy the DLC. It just won't let us.

Hell, if someone had all the songs I wanted, I'd be willing to send them a few bucks via paypal for the courtesy. Cause some of the songs, I'd really like to be able to play.

Oh yeah... schapman74@hotmail.com. :)

sa_nick

01-08-2008, 05:18 AM

Hell, if someone had all the songs I wanted, I'd be willing to send them a few bucks via paypal for the courtesy.

Yeah same here. I dont even have an Aussie credit card or PayPal, but I've sent a few US money orders b4 and would definitely throw some cash to anyone willing to help.

Ventura

01-08-2008, 05:24 AM

Yeah same here. I dont even have an Aussie credit card or PayPal, but I've sent a few US money orders b4 and would definitely throw some cash to anyone willing to help.

Hehe, and now watch as this thread just ends up being spammed back and forth between myself and sa_nick, two Aussies desperate for DLC and willing to pay a little for the courtesy.

sa_nick

01-08-2008, 07:28 AM

Bump.

If anyone with a PS3 who has most of the DLC can help Ventura or myself pleeeeease e-mail us.

We live in Australia and need someone to share their DLC, which PS3's can do to up to 5 (or 6) other PS3's.

JackBNimble

01-08-2008, 07:36 AM

Supported by Sony Computer Entertainment. Not Universal, Sony BMG, or Warner. I very much doubt the record companies are going to let people give out their song free 4 times for a revenue of just one song. And, now that you've posted on the official forum that this works, if it weren't at the attention of Harmonix already, it certainly will be now. Since Warhawk isn't included under the 5 friends thing, I would expect Rock Band DLC to follow suit shortly.

this has never been a secret dude.........oops maybe the RB police will shut it down.

DesiredFX

01-08-2008, 07:36 AM

Supported by Sony Computer Entertainment. Not Universal, Sony BMG, or Warner. I very much doubt the record companies are going to let people give out their song free 4 times for a revenue of just one song.

Apple managed to work out a licensing deal that allowed for a limited number of CD burns for a track for just 99 cents. Later, by bumping the price up to $1.29, they managed to get that limit removed.

Now if Apple can come up with a deal that allows unlimited sharing to anyone who has a CD player, surely Sony could manage to talk them into a 5-share deal that only works with people with PS3s.

Especially when you realize just how inconvenient it is unless you're sharing with actual friends that you trust instead of total strangers online.

Ventura

01-08-2008, 07:55 AM

Especially when you realize just how inconvenient it is unless you're sharing with actual friends that you trust instead of total strangers online.

Obviously sharing it with strangers would be taking things too far... no argument there.

It's not like me and sa_nick weren't gonna ask though, and you can't blame us for trying. Australia won't get Rock Band until at least April, which means it'll take that long for Sony to localise the content (read: copy from one machine to another and recalculate the prices). In the meantime, what with you guys getting new DLC each and every week, it's going to make for a very long few months for me and him. Not to mention, all the other overseas gamers around here who might be in the same boat.

I realise taking advantage of this ability so we might actually be able to play some of it isn't really what Sony had in mind, even though we'd be willing to pay someone for the ability to access their account's DLC. I couldn't really care what Sony think about the situation though, since it's their stupidity that's gotten us into this mess in the first place.

sa_nick

01-08-2008, 09:08 AM

Especially when you realize just how inconvenient it is unless you're sharing with actual friends that you trust instead of total strangers online.

My thinking was whoever is awesome enough to help us out can change their password for an hour to like "newpassword" then we go in, download the RB DLC, they change their password back and we can never access their account again.

BobsRevenge

01-08-2008, 09:20 AM

sa_nick

01-08-2008, 09:36 AM

If the point of Sony allowing 5 downloads per account for a purchase on DLC was to let you share it with your friends they wouldn't have tied it EXCLUSIVELY to you account. You have to actually delete the account from your PS3, load up the other person's account. Then download their content. Delete their account, then hope that they give you yours back without ripping you off.

If Sony meant for this system to allow sharing with friends they wouldn't have set it up this way obviously. People who are exploiting it are doing just that: exploiting it.

Its meant so that your DLC is recoverable if you switch PS3's.

It's not tied exclusively to the account, no one has to delete any accounts. Sharing DLC with up to 5 other consoles is a feature Sony has openly shared as a sale point for buying their system. Unlike Xbox, if someone shares their DLC with me i can continue to use it without being logged in as them. It is not at all tied to their account.

MF-PO'd

01-08-2008, 10:30 AM

If the point of Sony allowing 5 downloads per account for a purchase on DLC was to let you share it with your friends they wouldn't have tied it EXCLUSIVELY to you account. You have to actually delete the account from your PS3, load up the other person's account. Then download their content. Delete their account, then hope that they give you yours back without ripping you off.

If Sony meant for this system to allow sharing with friends they wouldn't have set it up this way obviously. People who are exploiting it are doing just that: exploiting it.

Its meant so that your DLC is recoverable if you switch PS3's.

Why does someone need to delete their account when you can have multiple accounts on the same machine? I have a Canadian, U.S., and Japan account on my system.

mattministrator

01-08-2008, 10:47 AM

I'm in the same boat. Stuck in Germany, I cannot access the US DLC. I'm very willing to pay my share of the cost via PayPal. It sure takes some trust, and I don't have high hopes that someone will actually go through all the hassle, but then again this is one of the nicer communities around, as I've experienced it. Please email me at fallclimber@web.de if you think you can help. It would be much appreciated.

appleb

01-08-2008, 10:59 AM

mattministrator

01-08-2008, 11:18 AM

As has been said before, I'd be happy to hand my money directly to Sony, but as they neither accept foreign credit cards in the US store nor make the DLC available worldwide there's simply no other chance to get more songs.

(There's a small ray of hope: I've heard PSN cards were scheduled for release in the near future, so I'll have to buy these on eBay or whereever as a workaround for US credit cards. Stupid, really. People want to buy your stuff, so just let them. Not HMX's fault whatsoever, exclusively Sony to blame.)

riginal

01-08-2008, 12:01 PM

I would happily help out any of the importers trying to get DLC. Just let me know.

ManOwaR

01-08-2008, 12:03 PM

It is NOT a '5 friend sharing' package, and shouldn't be called that.

If you have a PS3, buy the DLC, then your PS3 dies, then you're allowed to buy a new PS3 and download that same content again. This is the intent of the 5 download rule. The download is only intended for one user at a time, with that one user being the person who actually purchased it in the first place.

Flaunting that you're abusing this limit only cause Sony tighten up the rule.

I agree it shouldn't be called the 5 friend share package but I disagree that it's just for back up of single user. The point is you can play your DLC at a friends place. It's sole purpose is not what you have listed here. Everyone is so scared that Sony didn't mean it the way that has always been published; I can imagine if you're used to Microsoft charging you for online access a thing like sharing a Downloadable song might give you hives. From the get go on the sites I've read since before the PS3 came out Sony intended you and your friends to have the experience.

Of course as many of you outlined in the comments here, if you have a "friend" who you don't know in different continents, it's probably not what they had intended.

Still Sony probably wins in the end. If it was me on an island, I would have probably bought 4-6 songs (metalica pack 4 sure). My local friend and I have bought almost all the DLC.

ShadowOfEden

01-08-2008, 12:25 PM

Sweet! Too bad I don't even know one other person with a PS3 and Rock Band. Although count on Sony to plug this one up pretty quick.

No. It has been intended to be like this from the start. People have been sharing downloadable game since the PS3 launched.

Warhawk is the only exception.

But I wouldn't trade it off with 5 friends, since if something happens to your PS3 and you must get a new one or format it, you'll have to pay for it again.

riginal

01-08-2008, 12:29 PM

I really see why people are so touchy about this. It is the official policy from Sony that you can share your DLC. They don't consider it piracy, so I don't see why anyone else would care. Didn't they make it so you couldn't share Warhawk?

The point is that if you play the game regularly, then the DLC is well worth the price. I have already spent over $30 on downloads and have every available song that I want. I have a friend of mine that will be getting Rock Band soon and I plan to share the costs of DLC with him, but we'll probably end up just buying everything between the two of us.

inkspoof

01-08-2008, 01:44 PM

From the Knowledge Center http://playstation.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/playstation.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=227&p_created=1163752619&p_sid=jzgg4BBi&p_accessibility=0&p_lva=228&p_sp=cF9zcmNoPTEmcF9zb3J0X2J5PSZwX2dyaWRzb3J0PSZwX 3Jvd19jbnQ9MzAmcF9wcm9kcz0xMTYmcF9jYXRzPTAmcF9wdj0 xLjExNiZwX2N2PSZwX3BhZ2U9MSZwX3NlYXJjaF90ZXh0PWdhb WUgc2hhcmU*&p_li=&p_topview=1:

Please review the use restrictions associated with the content you purchased. The content may be played on up to 5 activated PLAYSTATION 3's at any one time.

What is key here is : "at any one time"

mattministrator

01-08-2008, 01:46 PM

Thanks for the kind offer, riginal. PMed you already.

And good find, inkspoof!

Ventura

01-08-2008, 05:28 PM

Thanks for the kind offer, riginal. PMed you already.

Yeah I might do that too.

DesiredFX

01-08-2008, 05:42 PM

Thanks for clearing it up, inkspoof. Hopefully, we won't have to see any more "it wasn't intended for sharing" posts.

As for Ventura and sa_nick, I wasn't specifically addressing what you guys wanted to do, just trying to explain the way Sony intended for the process to work--obviously, it's possible to share with complete strangers, or, as happened to me, with a long-term friend that I know from online but have never met.

sa_nick

01-08-2008, 11:17 PM

I would happily help out any of the importers trying to get DLC. Just let me know.

Hey, is there any chance you could e-mail? When i try to PM on the rockband site it says
sa_nick, you do not have permission to access this page. This could be due to one of several reasons:

1. Your user account may not have sufficient privileges to access this page. Are you trying to edit someone else's post, access administrative features or some other privileged system?
2. If you are trying to post, the administrator may have disabled your account, or it may be awaiting activation.

EDIT: Nevermind, I figured it out. PM'ing used to be a lot easier on this site.

.... weird

Ventura

01-09-2008, 03:09 AM

Hey, is there any chance you could e-mail? When i try to PM on the rockband site it says

EDIT: Nevermind, I figured it out. PM'ing used to be a lot easier on this site.

.... weird

Good luck with that one sa_nick. I won't hound the guy too so I think I'll just hold off for now and wait it out until our local release. My music tastes are somewhat 'unconventional' anyway so the chances are not many people will have most of the DLC that I'd go for anyway.

Feel free to let us know how it goes though.

mattministrator

01-10-2008, 02:25 PM

bump in desperate hope of someone having the heart and trust to help out importers.

If you think you could share your DLC (and, of course, the cost for it, e.g. via PayPal) with those who can't buy stuff off of the US store, please let us know. Easiest way would be to email me (fallclimber@web.de) and the others (see above).

Cheers. I'm still hopeful.

Apples

01-10-2008, 02:46 PM

Yeah I might do that too, and for anyone wishing to share their account so we can get access to some of Rock Band's DLC, we'd be willing to make it worth your while by sending a bit of cash via paypal :)

Regardless of Sony's stance on this matter, it is treading in dubious territory (if not outright piracy) to engage in this sort of thing.

With respect, this is not the appropriate venue for such a discussion.

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