Twilight - Chick Flick?

[DrumStix]

I haven't seen Twilight yet, but I did read the book. A lot of people say the movie adaptation sucked. Why? From what I've heard, it was too, um, " girlish ". I disagree. According to the book, there isn't any " girlish " parts. But, was it only the movie that sank low? I'm seriously confused. Here's my opinion:

Just your typical boyfriend-girlfriend movie.
With a little fantasy thrown in, Am I right?

I will be seeing the movie soon, on DVD.
So, before I do, tell me,
why is it considered a " Chick Flick? " :confused:

[kiggidykev]

The talky-feelings parts of the movie far outweighed the vampire-kicky ones.

[sillystou]

The talky-feelings parts of the movie far outweighed the vampire-kicky ones.

Quoted for truth.

[Wolfbeckett]

Feelings are lame. Kissing is awesome.

[davidshek]

I haven't seen the movie yet, but I've read the first 3 books in that series. I've heard the same thing about the movie though, that it's a bit girlish, but then again, so were the books at times.

You can tell the books are definitely aimed at teenage girls.

[Oscar-Rio]

twilight is a chick flick. period. The "sexual" scenes are non-threatening to the women, that's why it's as popular as it is. Damn fads.

[DrumStix]

You can tell the books are definitely aimed at teenage girls.

Quoted for truth as well.

[ArmsAreLoud]

Never read the books, since I'm quite positive I'll despise them considering how all of the positives I've gotten from the fans make me not want to read the series more and more, but I did see the movie since my mom and sister were watching it. Basically, Cullen is a creeper and everyone is a moron.

[sillystou]

Glad that worked out for ya.

[zack10house]

potd

[DrumStix]

:eek:
Ok . . .
Wow . . .

[gmarsh]

*** girls in my school are obsessed teh book, it sucks, that's all I have to say.
Its like a romance, fantasy, science fiction, crap, bad, yeah....

[Masquerade]

Tell *** girls you like it and get lucky.

If a boy told me he enjoyed Twilight, *** only thing he'll get is a kick up *** arse.

[Masquerade]

You obviously, ain't one of them girls. *pick a smiley*

Um. Thank God? I'd rather not be one of 'them girls'.

[onduvalst]

Total chick flick. Twilight is lame.

[daftuprising]

I think it is, because it focused on teh romantic aspect of teh relationship, not teh fantasy side. Teh movie disappointed me on so many levels, and were nothing compared to teh books. From here having an iPod, to a macbook, to Rosalie driving a red mercedes to school everyday, it was just off. It also should have been about 30-40 minutes longer so it would have dramatized teh end correctly and nailed down teh natural progression from Edward to Bella, Bella to Jacob, and Bella to teh vampire world.

[Renrock]

After *** first cheesy 30 minutes or so , I actually started to get into it.





. . . yeah , I got lucky too when it was over. :D

[itzJV]

I hate this book.

[Gowienczyk]

Bad book, bad film.

[HeyRiles]

I am afraid to watch *** movie, because I feel like it will ruin *** book for me, and I kinda like *** book

[Gowienczyk]

You just lost points Riles.

[HeyRiles]

You just lost points Riles.

Tell me why it's a horrible, horrible book

[Cpt. Overkill]

Did you just say nothing in *** book was girlish?

Wow... thats kind of a stupid statement.

[Gowienczyk]

Because it has awful narrative, no character development, it was written like a amateur 12-year old's fanfiction with a good blast of mary sue and it's only a little under a erotic novel.

I could go into detail but I don't want to stress myself!

[Cpt. Overkill]

Because it has awful narrative, no character development, it was written like a amateur 12-year old's fanfiction with a good blast of mary sue and it's only a little under a erotic novel.

I could go into detail but I don't want to stress myself!

That doesnt mean they cant enjoy it.

[Gowienczyk]

People can like whatever they like, but like music; writing snobs hate tripe. They hate it when their field is disrespected and so profited upon.

or something like that.

[HeyRiles]

Because it has awful narrative, no character development, it was written like a amateur 12-year old's fanfiction with a good blast of mary sue and it's only a little under a erotic novel.

I could go into detail but I don't want to stress myself!

I use *** same writing style - using description and feelings more than action. I imagine this is how I would write a book, just without *** vampires and lovey-dovey scenes, so it interests me

[Gowienczyk]

I wanted to be a novelist a few years ago, trust me.... don't get me started.

[AstromonyDonime]

Because it has awful narrative, no character development, it was written like a amateur 12-year old's fanfiction with a good blast of mary sue and it's only a little under a erotic novel.

I could go into detail but I don't want to stress myself!

I'm gonna go with Gowienczyk on this one, Twilight is a horrible piece of "literature". Its fanbase is unbelievably obsessive though, so I avoid expressing my distaste for it like teh plague.

[HeyRiles]

Started on what? I can understand you not liking *** vampires and love and whatnot, and I can understand you not liking *** writing style either, but for *** writing style you should at least respect it. I like to write like that, and it really got me interested to read it once I started reading *** first chapter and saw that she writes in a way I had only written myself before.

It may not be *** best writing style, but it's an interesting one to me, and one that suits me. Honestly, writing styles are like different genres of music - I sure hope you don't go around and call genres that other people like as suckish

[mjlambert1]

Personally, I would rather watch Dark Shadows...*** cooler soap opera with vampires only it also has werewolves and zombies.

[Gowienczyk]

It's not the writing style that is at fault, it is the content and the writer. Even established novelists know the novel and it's author are disrespecting the art:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29001524/?gt1=43001

Even for the genre of writing it is placed in, fans of that genre... detest this because it IS badly written:

http://buffylists.wordpress.com/2009/02/21/why-twilight-blows-and-why-its-an-insult-to-***-vampire-romance-genre/

I could describe why more, but other people do it better for me and well... I'm not up for going on a snob tirade that could get me banninated. :)

[HeyRiles]

It's not the writing style that is at fault, it is the content and the writer. Even established novelists know the novel and it's author are disrespecting the art:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29001524/?gt1=43001

Even for the genre of writing it is placed in, fans of that genre... detest this because it IS badly written:

http://buffylists.wordpress.com/2009/02/21/why-twilight-blows-and-why-its-an-insult-to-***-vampire-romance-genre/

I could describe why more, but other people do it better for me and well... I'm not up for going on a snob tirade that could get me banninated. :)

Well maybe it's just *** unique style of writing that has me enamored, I don't know. Agree to disagree

[timmay9]

Twilight read like a repressed 12 year old girls sexual fantasy. Which would suck.

[Gowienczyk]

No serious novelist or anybody (especially aspiring writers) that respects writing sees Twilight as 'unique' or respectable.

This is one book I can agree to burn.

[HeyRiles]

You don't see a unique style? Use of feelings and description rather than actions? That's not unique?

[ryanco64]

TWILlGHT. x_x
That name still rings like a bell.

[Gowienczyk]

I'm pretty sure that type of novelization has existed before, Riles. I can't think of any novels off *** top of my head, but I know I've read basis of emotions and development rather than actions before.

[AstromonyDonime]

You don't see a unique style? Use of feelings and description rather than actions? That's not unique?

Lord of *** Flies comes to mind.
"Piggy wore *** remainders of a pair of shorts, his fat body was golden brown, and *** glasses still flashed when he looked at anything. He was *** only boy on *** island whose hair never seemed to grow. *** rest were shock-headed, but Piggy's hair still lay in wisps over his head as though baldness were his natural state and this imperfect covering would soon go, like *** velvet on a young stag's antlers."
"Ralph was annoyed and, for *** moment, defeated. He felt himself facing something ungraspable. *** eyes that looked so intently at him were without humour."
Random paragraphs from random pages.

[Gowienczyk]

I guess you could think Twilight is unique if you haven't read any novels... ever. :p

[AstromonyDonime]

Honestly, using descriptions to describe actions is so common that *** only thing more common than it is dialogue. I mean, it's a 6th grade writing skill for God's sake. *** first time I heard "don't tell an action, show *** action" was in elementary school.

[Gowienczyk]

inorite?

[cromartie90000]

I never read *** novels, but just saw *** movie. I err... Kinda liked it. lol. I plan on reading *** novels eventually.

*** only problems I had with *** movie were *** poor effects. They were pretty... low tech.

[Banky71]

I've never seen *** movie or read *** book but I like to call it
Vampire 90210

[HeyRiles]

I said using feelings and description for *** majority of *** book, rather than dialogue and action. There's always a paragraph for description of a character, yeah, but then it goes back to dialogue

All books have all four of those characteristics, but if you pull out any fiction you'll find *** latter to be used more in abundance than *** former

[Cpt. Overkill]

I said using feelings and description for *** majority of *** book, rather than dialogue and action. There's always a paragraph for description of a character, yeah, but then it goes back to dialogue

All books have all four of those characteristics, but if you pull out any fiction you'll find *** latter to be used more in abundance than *** former

And past *** first book, its 100% crap, honestly.

[HeyRiles]

And past *** first book, its 100% crap, honestly.

Is it? I haven't read past *** first book yet

[IErrantVentureI]

I thought it was okay. I ended up reading all four books after I saw *** movie.

[Gowienczyk]

You haven't read a lot of pre-21st century novels, have you?

I recall in Catcher in the Rye the majority of the book being about feelings and dialogue. Not so much action as that book is about a guy explaining his experiences and how he felt through them.

=/

[HeyRiles]

You haven't read a lot of pre-21st century novels, have you?

I recall in Catcher in the Rye the majority of the book being about feelings and dialogue. Not so much action as that book is about a guy explaining his experiences and how he felt through them.

=/

I'm pretty sure you have every single book ever written except Twilight mistaken with *** majority

[Gowienczyk]

I'm pretty sure you have every single book ever written except Twilight mistaken with *** majority

Come again?

[Cpt. Overkill]

Is it? I haven't read past *** first book yet

It slowly downgrades in quality.

[HeyRiles]

Come again?

I meant just using one example does not mean the style of writing is unique. I'm sure even you would say that those two styles are different from each other. I wouldn't write in the way Catcher in the Rye is written - flashbacks and memories and all that - to me, I just kind of think the retroactive recollection takes away from the climax of stories


It slowly downgrades in quality.

That's too bad...

[Gowienczyk]

Whatever, bro.

Read more and hate Twilight in a few years and all will be well.

[HeyRiles]

You're just miffed because this is the first time in a while you've had a legitimate debate on even ground without an idiot and didn't win or lose

Heh, just kidding

[kiggidykev]

I hope they make a Twilight game

[Gowienczyk]

You're just miffed because this is the first time in a while you've had a legitimate debate on even ground without an idiot and didn't win or lose

Heh, just kidding

Nah, if it was a debate I would of tried harder.

[HeyRiles]

I hope they make a Twilight game

I hope they turn Bella into a Catholic cross-wielding Crusader and make her mission set out on killing vampires!

[kiggidykev]

Someone needs to make a NES Castlevania hack of this, NOW

[AstromonyDonime]

Coincidentally, I just found this on my friend's AIM buddy info.
http://www.cracked.com/topic/36-twilight/

[IErrantVentureI]

Wow, just found this, gotta watch it. My favorite part is 2:15. :)


http://www.cracked.com/video_16776_5-reasons-youll-hate-movie-twilight.html

[davidshek]

Nah, if it was a debate I would of tried harder.

Ya know, I was going to let this entire debate go without responding (even though I did enjoy the books), until you said this...

You said yourself that you wanted to be a novelist and you say "would of"?!

C'mon man..."would've" is not a contraction of "would" and "of". It's "would" and "have", you really ought to know that...aspiring novelist indeed. :rolleyes:

[Gowienczyk]

Ya know, I was going to let this entire debate go without responding (even though I did enjoy the books), until you said this...

You said yourself that you wanted to be a novelist and you say "would of"?!

C'mon man..."would've" is not a contraction of "would" and "of". It's "would" and "have", you really ought to know that...aspiring novelist indeed. :rolleyes:

Yeah, I'm not great with grammar in some instances. I had a really bad literature class in high school, I don't deny it.

[HeyRiles]

Ya know, I was going to let this entire debate go without responding (even though I did enjoy the books), until you said this...

You said yourself that you wanted to be a novelist and you say "would of"?!

C'mon man..."would've" is not a contraction of "would" and "of". It's "would" and "have", you really ought to know that...aspiring novelist indeed. :rolleyes:

I thought about pointing that out, but he wasn't being rude or anything, the argument wasn't about better grammer, and it was an honest discussion that I enjoyed, so I let it slide

Thankfully I've got Mr. Shek here to be the jerk for me

[DrumStix]

Did you just say nothing in *** book was girlish?

Wow... thats kind of a stupid statement.

Read the book.
And try and find anything.

[davidshek]

I thought about pointing that out, but he wasn't being rude or anything, the argument wasn't about better grammer, and it was an honest discussion that I enjoyed, so I let it slide

Thankfully I've got Mr. Shek here to be the jerk for me

I wasn't trying to be a jerk, I just found it highly ironic that somebody claiming to be an aspiring writer would make so glaring of a grammatical error. Not that he's writing a novel here, but it does tend to detract a bit from his credibility :)

[Gowienczyk]

I still wanted to be a novelist, bad grammar or not. :p

[RockBandRocker]

The film is definitely a "chick flick" (I hate that term).

If you read the book, than you might enjoy the movie for the sheer pleasure of getting to see the characters "come to life".


It is EXTREMELY different than the book (ex: The villains get introduced early, the relationship happens in weeks [not months], Bella's aversion to blood is entirely left out, etc.). If you read the book, you can still enjoy it (flawed as it is).

I can't wait for "New Moon" in November.

[darkrei9n]

I haven't seen the movie yet, but I've read the first 3 books in that series. I've heard the same thing about the movie though, that it's a bit girlish, but then again, so were the books at times.

You can tell the books are definitely aimed at teenage girls.

I read the first, I'm burning that and washing my hands with acid. I'm going to watch some good old star trek marathons on my computer to wash it out of my brain.

If this doesn't work. I want you to kill me.

[Runesmith]

The Twilight series is a beautiful thing indeed solely because the novels are responsible for inspiring many young children to make reading and writing a regular hobby.

I have not seen this many teens reading since the first Harry Potter book came out.

[onidragon]

According to the book, there isn't any " girlish " parts.
I Lol'd


Just your typical boyfriend-girlfriend movie.
With a little fantasy thrown in, Am I right?
If you think abusive relationships that set the feminist movement back 50 years is your typical boy/girl movie, then yes, you're dead on.


I will be seeing the movie soon, on DVD.
I feel so sorry for you. The movie, book, and everything else involving Twilight is awful.

So, before I do, tell me,
why is it considered a " Chick Flick? " :confused:
Movies that appeal to mainly the female demo, usually it is a romantic comedy, which most men have no taste for. Although I enjoy some romantic comedies, the majority of them are mind-numbing. All in all, the "chick-flick" moniker is a sexist, crude label created by men and applied to romantic/dramatic movies they don't want to see. Although, since you're a Twilight fan, you probably don't give two ****s about the feminist movement, so hey, what the hell am I trying to convince you for?

[DrumStix]

I Lol'd


If you think abusive relationships that set the feminist movement back 50 years is your typical boy/girl movie, then yes, you're dead on.


I feel so sorry for you. The movie, book, and everything else involving Twilight is awful.

Movies that appeal to mainly the female demo, usually it is a romantic comedy, which most men have no taste for. Although I enjoy some romantic comedies, the majority of them are mind-numbing. All in all, the "chick-flick" moniker is a sexist, crude label created by men and applied to romantic/dramatic movies they don't want to see. Although, since you're a Twilight fan, you probably don't give two ****s about the feminist movement, so hey, what the hell am I trying to convince you for?

A movie's a movie. :/

[Wertty]

Twilight read like a repressed 12 year old girls sexual fantasy. Which would suck.

Because it is, imagine that. :(
She even admits it's basically based off of a wet dream she had once.