Best Drummer To Ever Exist

[Lithuanian_Boy]

I'm pretty sure Bonham didn't use heel-toe. I don't use heel-toe and I can still hit those, I slide naturally, not because I learned how to do it.

Yeah (Happy Fruit?), I'm pretty sure he did he do heel-toe, that was like his signature "thing" I suppose. I'm pretty sure that's how he played Good Times Bad Times, and Achilles Last Stand. Probably a few other songs too, but I'd have to listen for it, I've only picked up intense double-strokes on those two songs.

Also, the rest of you, ignore what I put in those brackets you wouldn't understand.

[Ultimatum]

Heel-toe isn't entirely necessary for fast kicks, and Bonham wasn't exactly an advocate of perfect technique.

[MrFruitLord]

Yeah (Happy Fruit?),

You made me laugh.
Sorry about that, when I don't get enough sleep for days on end, I tend to snap a little.

[Lithuanian_Boy]

You made me laugh.
Sorry about that, when I don't get enough sleep for days on end, I tend to snap a little.

It's ok <3. I was also tired and was all like "wtf is going here, why won't he accept me?."


Heel-toe isn't entirely necessary for fast kicks, and Bonham wasn't exactly an advocate of perfect technique.

I know he wasn't, and I know it's not necessary for fast double kicks. But if you want to do quick successive double hits (like Good Times Bad Times ), then, unless you're really good at just sliding, then it's almost necessary. Also It's a lot easier than just sliding (for me anyways), and I always say "If something makes your task easier, then why not do it?" but that's just me.

[Ultimatum]

Sliding was just a completely natural action for me, which is how I've got it to the point that it's at with no signs of slowing down.

[Lithuanian_Boy]

Sliding was just a completely natural action for me, which is how I've got it to the point that it's at with no signs of slowing down.

Sliding I do pretty easily too, but I just prefer heel-toe. But to each his own right?

[Spoot_Lepedus]

Gene Krupa

[Lithuanian_Boy]

Gene Krupa

I disagree.

Edit: Bad joke, I'm tired and my judgment on what is funny and what is not, is impaired. On a more serious note, he's good, but I wouldn't say he's the best. He's one of the best drummers, but I think that whoever is the best depends on what you think.

[louisfang]

Travis Barker

[Lithuanian_Boy]

Travis Barker

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I sense a big drawn out argument because someone isn't going to pick up the troll so I'm just going to spare everyone the blood and tears.

[a21schizoidman]

Also I'm not just talking about prog, John Bohnam was very technical but he still put a lot of emotion into his songs. Too much of one isn't good, but I like a mix of both.

lolno, John Bonham is one of the sloppiest drummers i have ever heard

[Lithuanian_Boy]

lolno, John Bonham is one of the sloppiest drummers i have ever heard

Meh, in comparison to a lot of other people. But in comparison to Keith Moon he's a technique overlord.

Also why did you get banned?

[Ultimatum]

How is Bonham technical? His playing was fairly standard, except for his foot, and speed like that can easily be developed through playing exclusively single pedal for years, just look at Nicko McBrain.

[TheCrimsonSaint]

How is Bonham technical? His playing was fairly standard, except for his foot, and speed like that can easily be developed through playing exclusively single pedal for years, just look at Nicko McBrain.

As incredible as he is, he's still Maiden's second best drummer.

[Ultimatum]

True that, I much preferred Clive Burr.

[TheCrimsonSaint]

True that, I much preferred Clive Burr.

God damned multiple sclerosis.

[Lithuanian_Boy]

As incredible as he is, he's still Maiden's second best drummer.

Gotta love his name too though.

[a21schizoidman]

True that, I much preferred Clive Burr.

i'll third that

[JerryBrudos]

i'll third that

4th Clive is amazing

[LegendofRock3021]

4th Clive is amazing

Might as well fifth that, Clive's awesome.

[Aft3rshock]

Chris Adler from Lamb of God

[Evilbottom]

Chris Adler from Lamb of God

No

like, really no

[SynesterSeX]

Didnt bother to read every response so ill just state my personal top 2

The Who's Keith Moon
Avenged Sevenfold's The Rev

[Lithuanian_Boy]

Avenged Sevenfold's The Rev

Big fat no.

[Stevie B]

Neil Peart and Keith Moon are my personal favs, but the list should have Bonham, Ulrich, and Chad Smith.

[Fizzeler]

Might as well fifth that, Clive's awesome.

sixth it :D

[RHCPgroupie42]

Buddy Rich. i cant think of a better one. but he isnt necessarily "rock"

[polishdog90]

He's not the best, but has anyone mentioned Jojo Mayer?:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gr8KYnEW-7Y

edit: Here is him playing a less solo song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWRU3Sxt9tY

[Hahatooslow]

Hm if its in terms of skill and influence I'd go with Buddy Rich, right after him Neil Peart.

[a_bull_on_parade]

Meg White.

[RHCPgroupie42]

Meg White.

lolol0olololololol good joke i laughed

[Lithuanian_Boy]

lolol0olololololol good joke i laughed

Don't disagree with him, he'll get angry and start arguing with you.

[a_bull_on_parade]

Don't disagree with him, he'll get angry and start arguing with you.

Dude I'm not that angry of a person, It was a joke :)

Edit: Wait no I have a reputation to uphold! What the **** Do you meen Lolololll!?!?! She Is SOOOO technical!

[Lithuanian_Boy]

Dude I'm not that angry of a person, It was a joke :)

Edit: Wait no I have a reputation to uphold! What the **** Do you meen Lolololll!?!?! She Is SOOOO technical!

lol, that was good. I forget who we were talking about Meg White right? No really though she's actually pretty good, so Is Jack White.

[Alright_Computer]

lol, that was good. I forget who we were talking about Meg White right? No really though she's actually pretty good, so Is Jack White.

I lol'd.

[clashcityrocker10]

Meg White's ridiculously simplistic. I don't mind that, but by no means is she a good drummer.

Anyways, I don't know if he's been mentioned before in this thread, but Animal is a great drummer.

[a_bull_on_parade]

Animal is a great drummer.

This

[a21schizoidman]

I lol'd.

yeah, she doesn't even know how to **** right

[Lithuanian_Boy]

I lol'd.

Pretty good = Decent.

I meant decent, she can keep a beat, and it's not like she's a **** drummer. So in that case I think the word decent applies.


Animal is a great drummer.

This (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDU-ZyBQRnQ)

[Ultimatum]

She still falls out of time somehow....

[a_bull_on_parade]

She still falls out of time somehow....

On White Stripes songs, she manages to lose the time? I knew she liked it simple and I don't begrudge her for it but comeon how do you lose time on a White Stripes song?

[timmay9]

Meg White's ridiculously simplistic. I don't mind that, but by no means is she a good drummer.

Anyways, I don't know if he's been mentioned before in this thread, but Animal is a great drummer.

My obligatory link to my Electric Mayhem request thread: http://www.rockband.com/forums/showthread.php?t=80208

[Lithuanian_Boy]

She still falls out of time somehow....

I retract my previous statement that Meg White is a pretty good/decent drummer.

[RHCPgroupie42]

I retract my previous statement that Meg White is a pretty good/decent drummer.

she never was hahaha.
how do you lose timing on a 4/4 and end up playing like a 5/8. either shes pure genius or sucks miserably. im inclined to pick the latter

[Lithuanian_Boy]

how do you lose timing on a 4/4 and end up playing like a 5/8.

That's what I'm talking about.

[BombThatDeadGuy]

It completely depends on the type of genre for me. There is no one drummer that is better than every one else just like there is no one bassist , guitarist, or singer better than anyone else.

(Although many believe that John Entwistle, Jimi Hendrix, and Freddie Mercury are the best at their instrument of choice, I respectfully disagree with all of them)

Like I said earllier it depends on the genre, If it was just pure progressive I say Neil Peart, if it was thrash metal I say Dave Lombardo. If it was a mix of progressive music and metal then Mike Portnoy. But there's just no drummer better than another that's all I'm trying to say

[Razorhoof78]

I cuoldn't imagine who the "best" could possibly be... Is it Bonham's monstrous groove? Peart's technical perfection? Moon's unabashed crazy awesome time? What about Mitch Mitchell? Terry Bozzio? Mike Mangini? It's like debating which color is the best... My favorite right now is Desi Kensel from High On Fire - balls out war metal with enough groove to make Vinnie Paul look like a drum preset on a Casio keyboard. I couldn't vote... I will however give the "Most Improved" award to Taylor Hawkins - I saw him backing Alanis Morrisette back in '96 and he was terrible. Years later with Foo Fighters he knocked my socks off. Who'd have thought hanging around Dave Grohl would make you a better drummer?

[Soror_YZBL]

I'm voting for Og, the drummer for Ugg. They had a few top 10 hits in 12,000 bc. That guy was a MONSTER on the skins. Literal skins, btw.

[killer_roach]

Of the choices listed, Peart.

Throwing in my own, Christian Vander of Magma. Mind-blowing rock/jazz percussion.

[CyanFunk]

Buddy Rich

[flinx1241]

Was going to get on your case for leaving Bonham off, but noticed that it was an oversight.

My "other" vote is for him. Freaking amazing drummer. At his best, he sounds like he's completely out of control, about to break out of the rhythm of the song, then he pulls it all back together in a way that I've rarely heard anyone else copy, let alone innovate...

[flinx1241]

Oh, and a nod to Sandy Nelson (Let There Be Drums). Not sure if he's been mentioned (30 pages is a lot), but an amazing talent back in the day...

[EviladeUK]

1. The Reverend Tholomew Plague - Avenged Sevenfold
2. Gene Hoglan - Dethklok (most notably)
3. Neil Peart - If you don't know which band he's from then go slam your face in the fridge.

I could've voted Megadeth but they've just had too many different members, or more accurately:
Dave Mustaine has had too many different members.

[Lithuanian_Boy]

1. The Reverand Tholomew Plague - Avenged Sevenfold
2. Gene Hoglan - Dethklok (most notably)
3. Neil Peart - If you don't know which band he's from then go slam your face in the fridge.

1: to quote a21 (facedesk)
2: (facedesk)
3: Welcome to History of Rock...

[MrFruitLord]

1: to quote a21 (facedesk)
2: (facedesk)
3: Welcome to History of Rock...

Don't (facedesk) Gene Hoglan. Besides his awesome work with Dethklok, he was outstanding in his work with Dark Angel and Death.

[LegendofRock3021]

Don't (facedesk) Gene Hoglan. Besides his awesome work with Dethklok, he was outstanding in his work with Dark Angel and Death.

Yeah, Gene Hoglan is pretty awesome to say the least.

[Lithuanian_Boy]

Yeah, Gene Hoglan is pretty awesome to say the least.

I don't really like him that much, but to each their own I guess. The only real reason I facedesked though was because that kid probably only knows him from Dethklok (even though metalocalypse is an awesome show).

[EviladeUK]

1: to quote a21 (facedesk)
2: (facedesk)
3: Welcome to History of Rock...

Hmm, this based on my opinion and taste in music.
If I wanted to make a real one, then Neil Peart would be at the top, most likely followed by Keith Moon.

And I thought the Brackets for Gene Hoglan would clarify that I'm very aware of his other work.

And I really don't get how me liking modern music could make you assume I'm some kid. I happen to love Black Sabbath, Deep Purple, Rush and Megadeth.

[Lithuanian_Boy]

Hmm, this based on my opinion.

If I wanted to make a real one.

And I thought the Brackets for Gene Hoglan would clarify that I'm very aware of his other work.

And I really don't get how me liking modern music could make you assume I'm some kid. I happen to love Black Sabbath, Deep Purple, Rush and Megadeth.

Thank you for clarifying...

Your first list wasn't real enough?

Thought wrong.

Because most kids only listen to modern music that's spoon fed to them, which is the impression you set on me.

Great I like those bands too, but they aren't the only bands I listen to.

[a21schizoidman]

1. The Reverend Tholomew Plague - Avenged Sevenfold
3. Neil Peart

no
no
no
no

[Ultimatum]

I don't really like him that much, but to each their own I guess. The only real reason I facedesked though was because that kid probably only knows him from Dethklok (even though metalocalypse is an awesome show).

I guess you've never listened to Death, his playing is absolutely mind-bending on Symbolic.

[Lithuanian_Boy]

I guess you've never listened to Death, his playing is absolutely mind-bending on Symbolic.

I haven't, my friend showed me one song by them and I wasn't really paying attention to the drumming.

[Ultimatum]

Death has had many different drummers throughout the band's history.

It's also not exactly accurate to determine a drummer's ability by one band's body of work.

[LightningBolt]

Favorite is Ginger Baker. And your choices are pretty bad, if I may say so myself. Matt Cameron? The unoriginal drummer from Megadeth? Seriously?

[LightningBolt]

Why are you all hating on the dude from Avenged Sevenfold? The band itself isn't that good, but I'd be lying if I were to say that I didn't think much of his drumming. He's rather creative and really adds a lot to the music that if he wasn't there I'd never listen to them at all.

[supernova1324]

Why are you all hating on the dude from Avenged Sevenfold? The band itself isn't that good, but I'd be lying if I were to say that I didn't think much of his drumming. He's rather creative and really adds a lot to the music that if he wasn't there I'd never listen to them at all.

I love how you go from hating on Matt Cameron and Shawn Drover to praising Rev.

[Chainedsoulz]

Brann Dailor easily.

:cool:

[Lithuanian_Boy]

Why are you all hating on the dude from Avenged Sevenfold? The band itself isn't that good, but I'd be lying if I were to say that I didn't think much of his drumming. He's rather creative and really adds a lot to the music that if he wasn't there I'd never listen to them at all.

No

I'm sure it wouldn't make a difference if anyone was drumming for them.

[Ultimatum]

Why are you all hating on the dude from Avenged Sevenfold? The band itself isn't that good, but I'd be lying if I were to say that I didn't think much of his drumming. He's rather creative and really adds a lot to the music that if he wasn't there I'd never listen to them at all.

He's not really creative at all.

And which Megadeth drummer are you referring to? Nick Menza and Gar Samuelson were both great drummers.

[a21schizoidman]

Why are you all hating on the dude from Avenged Sevenfold? The band itself isn't that good, but I'd be lying if I were to say that I didn't think much of his drumming. He's rather creative and really adds a lot to the music that if he wasn't there I'd never listen to them at all.

he's a barely mediocre drummer who doesn't do anything special at all

[LightningBolt]

he's a barely mediocre drummer who doesn't do anything special at allI disagree. I listen to tons of music from Alternative to Metal to Classic Rock, and I've never really heard anyone drum like he has. Like I said, I'm not the biggest fan of the band in the slightest, but the dude can drum.

[LightningBolt]

I love how you go from hating on Matt Cameron and Shawn Drover to praising Rev.

I didn't "hate" on them. I enjoy Megadeth and Soundgarden (somewhat SG), but I just feel like Rev is the better drummer. I wouldn't put him up with the best, and I would've said the same about him that I did with those two. If you think Cameron and the unoriginal dude from Megadeth belong up there on a poll of best drummers ever then you need to listen to some more music.

And Ultimatum (sorry for misspelling), I don't know which drummer from Megadeth is which. I listen to songs from each era of Megadeth (their 80's stuff, early 90's stuff, late 90's stuff, and the newer stuff) I just haven't picked up on any exceptional drumming is all. Maybe I'll keep an ear open to the drumming next time and see if he's really that good. But I've listened to the albums that he's appeared on (Endgame and United Abominations) and haven't heard anything out of this world. ESPECIALLY to be on this poll. They were lousy choices for the poll.

[a21schizoidman]

I disagree. I listen to tons of music from Alternative to Metal to Classic Rock, and I've never really heard anyone drum like he has. Like I said, I'm not the biggest fan of the band in the slightest, but the dude can drum.

then you haven't paid much attention

[Ultimatum]

I didn't "hate" on them. I enjoy Megadeth and Soundgarden (somewhat SG), but I just feel like Rev is the better drummer. I wouldn't put him up with the best, and I would've said the same about him that I did with those two. If you think Cameron and the unoriginal dude from Megadeth belong up there on a poll of best drummers ever then you need to listen to some more music.

Megadeth has had at least 3 drummers...

Matt Cameron is pretty damn creative too, and he's a great drummer. Rev's drumming is pretty typical, name something special about his style.

[LightningBolt]

Megadeth has had at least 3 drummers...

Matt Cameron is pretty damn creative too, and he's a great drummer. Rev's drumming is pretty typical, name something special about his style.

I know Megadeth has had quite a few drummers, that's why I clarified which albums he plays on which I found out about via wiki lol.

As for Matt Cameron. I've seen some praise for him (mainly on forums for this and guitarhero, nowhere else), but I've listened to Louder Than Love, Badmotorfinger, and Superunkown on a few occasions and I nothing has jumped out at me.

As for Rev, there's this one thing he does. It may be a Metalcore thing, as I know they used to be a Metalcore band and I listen to 0 Metalcore whatsoever (I only really listen to City of Evil from A7X), and I don't listen to Extreme Metal in general (unless Thrash is considered so, I dunno), but he does those things with the real quick spirts of double bass, and I feel they compliment the song well when he does so. I don't mean just "DOUBLE BASS AS FAST AS I CAN AHHHHHH", but I mean for like like 3 seconds at all time in select few places.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsZy3I6colo

Like 46 seconds in. He does it pretty frequently, so it's not like I'm nitpicking in a small portion of one song. Also, I like that thing he does before the chorus.

Like I said, it may not be that uncommon in the world of extreme metal or whatever, but his style certainly isn't common place in the kind of metal they now play (trad. metal/hard rock), and I don't hear that kind of drumming in the music I listen to. Now, like I said, I don't think he's the greatest in any way, shape, or form, but I still thinking denying the man his skills drum-wise is a bit "wrong" (unless you're not a fan of his style), and I think a lot of the negativity to his playing stems from the hate the band gets (I couldn't care less if you hate the band, I'm not a huge fan either).

[Ultimatum]

That's all pretty typical Metal playing, their contemporaries such as BFMV and Machine Head use stuff like that quite often. Also, A7X is NOT Trad. Metal as you call it.

Matt Cameron does all sorts of awesome odd-time grooves, I'm willing to wager you're not a drummer which is why you can't really hear it and respect how difficult it is to do that and make it flow like he does, and you also seemed to be impressed by fills rather than grooves, which is something Cameron doesn't really do too often, he's a great groover.

[Lithuanian_Boy]

I disagree. I listen to tons of music from Alternative to Metal to Classic Rock, and I've never really heard anyone drum like he has. Like I said, I'm not the biggest fan of the band in the slightest, but the dude can drum.

Yeah, that's because every drummer has a different style and they're all better than him.

Watch this. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVequ2XHb4M)

[LightningBolt]

That's all pretty typical Metal playing, their contemporaries such as BFMV and Machine Head use stuff like that quite often. Also, A7X is NOT Trad. Metal as you call it.

Just out of curiosity, what would you call their newest album? Hard Rock? That's fine, too, it just seems to be in the middle of the two. And by Traditional Heavy Metal I don't mean like it sounds like those 70's and early 80's bands, I mean that the Heavy Metal name is the best which fits it. Really, Hard Rock and Heavy Metal are the only two terms that can go with their newest, and I often use trad. heavy metal as another name for just heavy metal to specify I'm not just talking about metal in general.

As for Matt Cameron, no I'm not a drummer. I've always believed that I'd prefer a drummer that adds to the music rather than going off and showing how technical they can get. People like Ginger Baker, Bill Ward, and Albert Bouchard get me air-drumming all the time, something that doesn't happen with SG, but I guess that's not the desired effect.

[LightningBolt]

Yeah, that's because every drummer has a different style and they're all better than him.

Watch this. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVequ2XHb4M)

Is there a reason you're replying to me? I said I didn't think he was the best, and I meant that, it wasn't meant to backpedal out of an argument or anything, I don't think he's one of the best drummers, either. No go lie down boy, until you can actually respond in a semi-decent manner.

[I_Use_Shamwows]

I said Peart because he's a cool guy, but I want to scream at OP for not putting Buddy Rich on that poll.

[Ultimatum]

Just out of curiosity, what would you call their newest album? Hard Rock? That's fine, too, it just seems to be in the middle of the two. And by Traditional Heavy Metal I don't mean like it sounds like those 70's and early 80's bands, I mean that the Heavy Metal name is the best which fits it. Really, Hard Rock and Heavy Metal are the only two terms that can go with their newest, and I often use trad. heavy metal as another name for just heavy metal to specify I'm not just talking about metal in general.

As for Matt Cameron, no I'm not a drummer. I've always believed that I'd prefer a drummer that adds to the music rather than going off and showing how technical they can get. People like Ginger Baker, Bill Ward, and Albert Bouchard get me air-drumming all the time, something that doesn't happen with SG, but I guess that's not the desired effect.

A7X's latest is Hard Rock I guess, it's still pretty similar to BFMV and such, and all of those drummers play roughly the same style.

Well, seeing as those songs were written in odd time in the first place, I'd hardly say he was showing off, especially because he doesn't really play very many fills.

[Alright_Computer]

As for Matt Cameron, no I'm not a drummer. I've always believed that I'd prefer a drummer that adds to the music rather than going off and showing how technical they can get. People like Ginger Baker, Bill Ward, and Albert Bouchard get me air-drumming all the time, something that doesn't happen with SG, but I guess that's not the desired effect.

Matt Cameron doesn't show off. His stuff isn't really too technical, but he does have some great grooves. For an interactive version of this, just look at the Soundgarden songs we have in Rock Band, particularly Spoonman and Pretty Noose. I wish he did more of that kind of stuff in his current work with Pearl Jam. I get the feeling that would make at least part of the album a lot better. /tangent

[Lithuanian_Boy]

Is there a reason you're replying to me? I said I didn't think he was the best, and I meant that, it wasn't meant to backpedal out of an argument or anything, I don't think he's one of the best drummers, either. No go lie down boy, until you can actually respond in a semi-decent manner.

Sorry I disagree with your opinion, at least I made the effort to type out a sentence and find you a video :) unlike someone...


I've never really heard anyone drum like he has. Like I said, I'm not the biggest fan of the band in the slightest, but the dude can drum.

No where in this statement are you implying that you think he's not the best, so pardon me for my assumptions (I didn't read your other posts). I'm replying to you because I disagree with what you have to say and I don't care if you don't care :D


As for Rev, there's this one thing he does. It may be a Metalcore thing, as I know they used to be a Metalcore band and I listen to 0 Metalcore whatsoever (I only really listen to City of Evil from A7X), and I don't listen to Extreme Metal in general (unless Thrash is considered so, I dunno), but he does those things with the real quick spirts of double bass, and I feel they compliment the song well when he does so. I don't mean just "DOUBLE BASS AS FAST AS I CAN AHHHHHH", but I mean for like like 3 seconds at all time in select few places.

Like I said, it may not be that uncommon in the world of extreme metal or whatever, but his style certainly isn't common place in the kind of metal they now play (trad. metal/hard rock), and I don't hear that kind of drumming in the music I listen to. Now, like I said, I don't think he's the greatest in any way, shape, or form, but I still thinking denying the man his skills drum-wise is a bit "wrong" (unless you're not a fan of his style), and I think a lot of the negativity to his playing stems from the hate the band gets (I couldn't care less if you hate the band, I'm not a huge fan either).

I think you mean double hits, yeah it's not altogether uncommon but I also like it when drummers do that.

You really haven't payed a lot of attention to drumming then have you?

You must not listen to a lot of music then if you think his style of playing stands out amongst drummers. (If you do listen to a lot of music, then refer to the previous statement.)

[mercury11]

1. Charlie Watts ( Rolling Stones )

2. Robert Wyatt ( Soft Machine )

3. Jaki Liebezeit ( Can )

4. Klaus Dinger ( NEU! )

[LightningBolt]

Sorry I disagree with your opinion, at least I made the effort to type out a sentence and find you a video unlike someone...
You came off as a 12 year old, dude. "Every drummer has their own style and they're all better than his". I know you didn't really mean that (if you did, you're an idiot), but still, you came off pretty darn immature. My apologies.


No where in this statement are you implying that you think he's not the best, so pardon me for my assumptions (I didn't read your other posts). I'm replying to you because I disagree with what you have to say and I don't care if you don't care
I've implied it (if not downright said it, like I think I may have) more than enough through the thread.


You really haven't payed a lot of attention to drumming then have you?
I don't look for it, but if it stand out, then it stands out.


You must not listen to a lot of music then if you think his style of playing stands out amongst drummers. (If you do listen to a lot of music, then refer to the previous statement.)
I listen to many different kinds of music, but none that his style is common in. I don't hear that stuff in Alternative Rock, Progressive Rock, Alternative Metal, Heavy Metal, Hard Rock, Rock, Folk Rock, Progressive Metal, New Wave, Blues Rock, Southern Rock, Jazz Fusion, Glam Rock, Hair Metal, Thrash Metal, Speed Metal, Doom Metal, Grunge, Power Metal, Psychedelic, Post Grunge, Punk Rock, Pop Punk, Hardcore Punk, etc, etc. There may be bands that use it in these genres, but I'm sure the amount of bands I listen to that do use it are pretty scarce. I've got a rough idea of the styles my favorite bands use, and none of them use this style. I'd take a guess that it's more of a Extreme Metal thing, something I don't listen to.

[Ultimatum]

You must be making this up or not listening at all because Rev's techniques have been Metal standards for about a decade or so.

[TheCrimsonSaint]

The Rev isn't terribly special (he seems to fall back on straight four-on-the-floor a little too often), but he's not terribly terrible. Middle-of-the-road, I'd say.

[ArmsAreLoud]

Dang it, Lightning, you seemed to know what you were talking about back when I knew you on the GH forums. Do you honestly think that anything that A7X has put out has better drumming then Slaves & Bulldozers?

[LightningBolt]

Dang it, Lightning, you seemed to know what you were talking about back when I knew you on the GH forums. Do you honestly think that anything that A7X has put out has better drumming then Slaves & Bulldozers?

I still know what I'm talking about if it's something you can actually know about, rather than it being taste and opinion. I'll be perfectly honest, your name doesn't ring a bell, so I'll assume you used another username (I'll guess GP, but I dunno). And I don't really remember "Slaves & Bulldozers". I've never been a big fan of SG, so ya know, I don't remember all the songs, but I have given the album a listen more than once.

EDIT: I looked at your profile. You're most definitely GP. But yeah, I still know what I'm talking about, it's just that in this case I was defending a rather unpopular stance (at least when it comes to these forums).

[Chopper13]

Favorite is Dominic Howard, there is no true way to have a 100% the BEST drummer

[Lithuanian_Boy]

You came off as a 12 year old, dude. "Every drummer has their own style and they're all better than his". I know you didn't really mean that (if you did, you're an idiot), but still, you came off pretty darn immature. My apologies.

Well... They are better than him :rolleyes:. There was a meaning in that statement, DISCERN IT.


I listen to many different kinds of music, but none that his style is common in. I don't hear that stuff in Alternative Rock, Progressive Rock, Alternative Metal, Heavy Metal, Hard Rock, Rock, Folk Rock, Progressive Metal, New Wave, Blues Rock, Southern Rock, Jazz Fusion, Glam Rock, Hair Metal, Thrash Metal, Speed Metal, Doom Metal, Grunge, Power Metal, Psychedelic, Post Grunge, Punk Rock, Pop Punk, Hardcore Punk, etc, etc. There may be bands that use it in these genres, but I'm sure the amount of bands I listen to that do use it are pretty scarce. I've got a rough idea of the styles my favorite bands use, and none of them use this style. I'd take a guess that it's more of a Extreme Metal thing, something I don't listen to.

Then refer to the previous statement :p

[macamatic]

Those quick bass fills are standards of melodic metalcore (which A7X is). Take a look. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9z2j8JML8M#t=0m40s)

Really, The Rev doesn't do anything different from his metalcore peers, and if anything is far less impressive than, say, Shannon Lucas, Matt Greiner, or Jordan Mancino, and that's just keeping it to the same genre.

[LightningBolt]

I don't listen to metalcore at all, so I didn't really know....

EDIT: Yeah, I hear it now. I don't like Metalcore, but Rev kept it even with their Hard Rock stuff, which isn't all that common I guess. I dunno, I don't really care that much anymore.

[JBPURCELL]

Neil Peart poops rhythm.

No question.

[Ultimatum]

Yeah, and he's taken the same dump about 30 times over his career.

[NwYrkStofMnd]

best Rock Drummer is Bonham

best Drummer is Buddy Rich

[Lithuanian_Boy]

best Rock Drummer is Bonham

best Drummer is Buddy Rich

no (great drummer but he's not the best rock drummer).

no (he's one of my favourites but he's not the best).