Anyone watch House tonight?

[BuRn7 CaK3]

If you haven't watched it yet, please do so. Probably one of the saddest House episodes ever.


SPOILER!!



















R.I.P. Lawrence Kutner
1976-2009
http://www.fox.com/kutner/

He was probably one of my favorites out of the new 3. You have no clue how hard i cried to see that he committed suicide. It was a big shocker, i even cried for the first 5 minutes of Heroes tonight. I Even cried seeing Taub break down at the end of the episode.

It was a big shocker. I Seriously never saw this coming.

/SPOILER

[topperharley]

You may want to make your post a little less spoiler-rific... Mods tend to frown on that. Just ask schiz. ;)

[BuRn7 CaK3]

But i clearly stated if you haven't seen it, see it now. so that was the warning. But i did add a more clearer warning.

[a21schizoidman]

You may want to make your post a little less spoiler-rific... Mods tend to frown on that. Just ask schiz. ;)

we aren't allowed to talk about TV here!!! SHHH!!!

[BuRn7 CaK3]

Just watched the remembrance video on fox.com.

Half the crap he did was so stupid, but it was that stupidity that made me like Kutner so much.

This is truly a sad episode.

[LibertineStripes]

It sucks that they killed him off and not Taub.

[dady5000]

Agh damnit now I have to watch it tonight :P

See what the hell happened to one of my lackeys.

[Stewie]

It sucks that they killed him off and not Taub.

Kutner was awesome. Kal Penn did a great job.

[BuRn7 CaK3]

It sucks that they killed him off and not Taub.

I agree.


Agh damnit now I have to watch it tonight :P

See what the hell happened to one of my lackeys.

I said if you haven't seen it, you will have to.


Kutner was awesome. Kal Penn did a great job.

He was, that's why i said he was my favorite of the new 3.

[DarkEternal37]

I hate how shows tend to kill off my favorite characters. Hello Curtis Manning in 24? I swear, if they kill off Turk in Scrubs, I'm done with TV.

My fiancee cried and I was pretty close. Pretty crazy episode.

[kiggidykev]

I don't really watch House, but the vibe in here leads me to believe this was pretty significant.

[toymachineSH]

anyone notice how dark the episode became once they found him dead- great use of lighting.

[iananderson]

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[harbingerofdoom]

You may want to make your post a little less spoiler-rific... Mods tend to frown on that. Just ask schiz. ;)

meh.. i wouldnt worry about it to much.. zap2it has a link to an article and the title is death claims kutner

i dont really mind the spoilers since i dont have a dvr at the moment and i always forget to actually watch the shows that i like to watch (house being one of them).

[BuRn7 CaK3]

But Meat Loaf being in this episode made it more awesome too.

[a21schizoidman]

But Meat Loaf being in this episode made it more awesome too.

Marvin Lee Aday makes anything more awesome

[WingsOfSteel]

R.I.P. My Indian angel. :(

Kutner was my favorite non-House doctor, it sucks he's gone.

[BuRn7 CaK3]

Very True.

When i seen him, i had the feeling it was him but could lay my hands on it. I mean he played Robert Paulson in Fight Club and i had no clue about that either.

[WingsOfSteel]

I saw Meat Loaf Aday in the credits, and I was all, "This episode is gonna KICK ASS!"


And then Kutner died.

[BuRn7 CaK3]

I saw Meat Loaf Aday in the credits, and I was all, "This episode is gonna KICK ASS!"


And then Kutner died.

Yeah, exactly!

I was like "This episode is going to rule" then Kutner is gone.

But He was Stubborn in the episode too.

[harbingerofdoom]

8 days till its up on their website for every ones viewing pleasure.... just so ya knows.

[BuRn7 CaK3]

the episode will be on imdb.com probably tomorrow. or hulu.com tomorrow since they pretty much just use each others. lol

[citric_bullets]

I just watched it on some rather sketchy site (I googled "watch house online") and yeah. Definitely a good one. At the end with Taub, almost got me.

Edit: Weird. I just started up iTunes and hit shuffle. The first song that came up was BB King- The Letter. The first line is "I have a good mind to give up living" and the rest of the song kind of comes back to that idea a lot. *shudder*

[BuRn7 CaK3]

I mean it was a great episode. But what still gets me is, why?

Why did he commit suicide? Was it because of his parents? Was it because he just couldn't handle it anymore?

That's what i want to know.

*edit* Did anyone read those notes in the link on the OP? Chase was mean with is. And Wilson has bad handwriting.

[citric_bullets]

I think the fact that we don't know why is kind of the point. I mean, everything with House is figuring out a puzzle, and with something like this sometime the answer is only apparent to one person.

[BuRn7 CaK3]

Yeah i figured that out already.

But that was the thing that hurt (aka made me cry more), was why he did it.

And i don't cry that much.

[citric_bullets]

Yeah i figured that out already.

But that was the thing that hurt (aka made me cry more), was why he did it.

And i don't cry that much.

Didn't mean to insult your intelligence. I was more spelling it out for myself. And also for conversation.

[WingsOfSteel]

*edit* Did anyone read those notes in the link on the OP? Chase was mean with is. And Wilson has bad handwriting.

Thirteen's was funny, it was written like a little kid's summer vacation paper.

Foreman's is sad.

[BuRn7 CaK3]

Didn't mean to insult your intelligence. I was more spelling it out for myself. And also for conversation.

No no, i knew that too. I apologize.


Thirteen's was funny, it was written like a little kid's summer vacation paper.

Foreman's is sad.

Your avatar pwns!

Yeah true. But for Foreman, i would've written the same thing. I mean, wouldn't you too?

[WingsOfSteel]

Looks like we can blame Barack Obama for Kutner's death. (http://ausiellofiles.ew.com/2009/04/house-exclusive.html#more)


Q: I understand it was your decision to leave House. True?

KAL PENN: Yes. I was incredibly honored a couple of months ago to get the opportunity to go work in the White House. I got to know the President and some of the staff during the campaign and had expressed interest in working there, so I'm going to be the associate director in the White House office of public liaison. They do outreach with the American public and with different organizations. They're basically the front door of the White House. They take out all of the red tape that falls between the general public and the White House. It's similar to what I was doing on the campaign.

This isn't the change I voted for...

[TheDeacon_Reloaded]

Kutner is left handed.

Gunshot wound to the RIGHT temple.

House went to great lengths to discount Taub's value to the team while praising Kutner's.

Taub acted 'funny' the entire episode and had an emotional breakdown at the end. Guilt, perhaps?

Kutner and Taub had a long conversation about suicide in a previous episode.

Taub killed his friend Kutner to secure his job and place on House's team and deeply regretted his actions after watching the lengths that the patients of the week would travel to save each other's lives.

I *will* eat my, or someone else's hat if I'm wrong.

[RockBandRocker]

*edit* Did anyone read those notes in the link on the OP? Chase was mean with is. And Wilson has bad handwriting.

House wrote nothing.

[jaydajedi]

Looks like we can blame Barack Obama for Kutner's death. (http://ausiellofiles.ew.com/2009/04/house-exclusive.html#more)



This isn't the change I voted for...

He got us again. This is why the voting age should be 35 unless your military. lol

[BuRn7 CaK3]

Looks like we can blame Barack Obama for Kutner's death. (http://ausiellofiles.ew.com/2009/04/house-exclusive.html#more)



This isn't the change I voted for...

Aww man, that sucks.


Kutner is left handed.

Gunshot wound to the RIGHT temple.

House went to great lengths to discount Taub's value to the team while praising Kutner's.

Taub acted 'funny' the entire episode and had an emotional breakdown at the end. Guilt, perhaps?

Kutner and Taub had a long conversation about suicide in a previous episode.

Taub killed his friend Kutner to secure his job and place on House's team and deeply regretted his actions after watching the lengths that the patients of the week would travel to save each other's lives.

I *will* eat my, or someone else's hat if I'm wrong.

I've never looked at it that way. In a way i can see where you are right. But what gets me is, why would his friend murder him?

[RockBandRocker]

I've never looked at it that way. In a way i can see where you are right. But what gets me is, why would his friend murder him?

Maybe he asked for it?

A friend asking another friend to kill them isn't that weird.

[BuRn7 CaK3]

House wrote nothing.

Yup. And what would've he wrote if he did right something? That's the real question. I don't think i could ever see house emotional, so that might explain why he wrote nothing.


Maybe he asked for it?

A friend asking another friend to kill them isn't that weird.

Maybe so. I still think that is weird no matter what you say.

[citric_bullets]

I *will* eat my, or someone else's hat if I'm wrong.

Whoa. You've got me convinced there.

[jaydajedi]

Kinda funny how he died the same way that Rombo (not to be confused with Rambo) killed Vince Foster and made it look like a suicide for Hillery. And now he is Chief of Staff and who is Kumar gonna work for? Rombo. I'm just sayin.

[RockBandRocker]

Maybe so. I still think that is weird no matter what you say.

It is weird, but it's not "out there". It's a hard concept to fathom, but it can happen.

[BuRn7 CaK3]

It is weird, but it's not "out there". It's a hard concept to fathom, but it can happen.

I Understand that. It's just weird to think that, you know?

[RockBandRocker]

I Understand that. It's just weird to think that, you know?

It is weird to think about it.

But maybe, just maybe, Kutner was in a depression and asked a friend to do him a favor?

[BuRn7 CaK3]

It is weird to think about it.

But maybe, just maybe, Kutner was in a depression and asked a friend to do him a favor?

Maybe.

I also have a feeling that what happened 2 episodes ago didn't help either. The episode with the guy who would speak what's on his mind. Well i figured with that episode it would've been Taub. But whatever.

[RockBandRocker]

Maybe.



It's all a "maybe" right now. The only thing that bugs me is that we may never get an answer. (Unless Taub confesses).

[citric_bullets]

It's all a "maybe" right now. The only thing that bugs me is that we may never get an answer. (Unless Taub confesses).

Or House figures it out, which is what I think would happen, if in fact Taub DID kill Kutner.

[RockBandRocker]

Or House figures it out, which is what I think would happen, if in fact Taub DID kill Kutner.

It would be weird if House "solves" the mystery surrounding Kutner's death.

[jaydajedi]

It would be weird if House "solves" the mystery surrounding Kutner's death.

maybee Ken Starr well solve it.

[TheDeacon_Reloaded]

But what gets me is, why would his friend murder him?

Because House made it clear in a recent episode that Taub was not needed and was entirely redundant to Kutner.

Taub has expressed repeatedly his frustrations over money and lack of job security, which was underlined when House initially refused to rehire him.

Taub is a coward and Taub is a man with low self esteem that's tried so hard to prove himself worthy of...anything and falls flat on his face every time. He's failed to win House's approval and recognizes himself as superfluous to the team and the butt of jokes more and more this season.

Taub asked for his job back because he wanted to feel as though he was doing something worthwhile with his career. When House refused to rehire him and jabbed over and over at Taub for not reaching a differential before Kutner, it poked at his sense of self worth.

Eliminate Kutner and Taub's job would be ironclad. There would be nobody to outperform him and being short a staff member would mean that House could not afford to let Taub go.

Clues have been dropped the entire season.

-House slamming Taub and telling him that Kutner was a better doctor

-Taub's comment to Kutner that the latter had thousands of online friends closer than he (indicating a lack of self esteem and mentally justifying murder by indicating they were not true friends)

-The conversation about suicide was a dead giveaway

-House's comment about Kutner being left handed was so unusual in that House would have noticed Kutner's left handedness immediately. Why bring it up after years of working with him unless it was purely to drop a clue to us, the viewers?

[citric_bullets]

It would be weird if House "solves" the mystery surrounding Kutner's death.

Well, he was trying to unravel it in this episode. I can easily see him noticing some clue and then start to figure it all out. If they handled it right, it could be really great.

[BuRn7 CaK3]

Because House made it clear in a recent episode that Taub was not needed and was entirely redundant to Kutner.

Taub has expressed repeatedly his frustrations over money and lack of job security, which was underlined when House initially refused to rehire him.

Taub is a coward and Taub is a man with low self esteem that's tried so hard to prove himself worthy of...anything and falls flat on his face every time. He's failed to win House's approval and recognizes himself as superfluous to the team and the butt of jokes more and more this season.

Taub asked for his job back because he wanted to feel as though he was doing something worthwhile with his career. When House refused to rehire him and jabbed over and over at Taub for not reaching a differential before Kutner, it poked at his sense of self worth.

Eliminate Kutner and Taub's job would be ironclad. There would be nobody to outperform him and being short a staff member would mean that House could not afford to let Taub go.

Clues have been dropped the entire season.

-House slamming Taub and telling him that Kutner was a better doctor

-Taub's comment to Kutner that the latter had thousands of online friends closer than he (indicating a lack of self esteem and mentally justifying murder by indicating they were not true friends)

-The conversation about suicide was a dead giveaway

-House's comment about Kutner being left handed was so unusual in that House would have noticed Kutner's left handedness immediately. Why bring it up after years of working with him unless it was purely to drop a clue to us, the viewers?

i like your points that you are making. But you completely missed my point.

It was just a question to be a question. I literally did not mean "Why would taub kill him" i get that whole part. Sense it was explained before.

[sa_nick]

Haha, BuRn7 CaK3 you son of a b*tch. I remember seeing this thread earlier today and decided not to click it until i watched the ep.

I JUST finished watching it, come in here to check out whats been said and you have a little freakin memorial thing and u've changed ur avatar. Wtf man, It's makin me cry more now than I did during the actual show, u bastard, lol.

[bermuddy]

Haha, BuRn7 CaK3 you son of a b*tch. I remember seeing this thread earlier today and decided not to click it until i watched the ep.

I JUST finished watching it, come in here to check out whats been said and you have a little freakin memorial thing and u've changed ur avatar. Wtf man, It's makin me cry more now than I did during the actual show, u bastard, lol.

man up, nick.

[sa_nick]

man up, nick.

Lol, quiet you :P

Also, Taub didn't do it. I *will* eat my, AND someone else's hat if I'm wrong.

[WingsOfSteel]

I'm really going to miss Kutner. Whether he was comparing the patient to Harry Potter, defribillating the patient, peeing on House's chair or eating cereal while watching TV, he was always cool.

I missed last week's episode, so I'm watching it now. Locked in is going to be my last Kutner episode.

[DarkEternal37]

Lol, quiet you :P

Also, Taub didn't do it. I *will* eat my, AND someone else's hat if I'm wrong.

I will provide said hat to you. I promise to spread some frosting on it first though.

[Sgt Pepper]

Haha, BuRn7 CaK3 you son of a b*tch. I remember seeing this thread earlier today and decided not to click it until i watched the ep.

I JUST finished watching it, come in here to check out whats been said

This. I'm actually still watching it right now. But as soon as I saw what made it so "sad" (I only read the thread preview last night), I had to see how this thread was going. I've missed most of the rest of Season 5, so this episode hit me like a sack of bricks.

Also....

:eek:

[BuRn7 CaK3]

Haha, BuRn7 CaK3 you son of a b*tch. I remember seeing this thread earlier today and decided not to click it until i watched the ep.

I JUST finished watching it, come in here to check out whats been said and you have a little freakin memorial thing and u've changed ur avatar. Wtf man, It's makin me cry more now than I did during the actual show, u bastard, lol.

So you miss him as much as i do?

Man hug?

like i said, he was my favorite of the new 3.

[Buffdog18]

I missed it, but my cousins won't stop talking about it.

[RockBandRocker]

If Taub did kill Kutner, this would make this the darkest season of "House".

[Sgt Pepper]

If Taub did kill Kutner, this would make this the darkest season of "House".

As I said earlier, I've missed quite a bit of season 5. As much as I wanted to love the show like I did when I first started watching it, the "almost kill them twice, third time's the charm" formula was getting a bit old. But, yeah, a twist like this willmake the rest of the season quite a bit darker, as well as quite a bit more interesting.

[Alright_Computer]

I laugh at you silly obsessive fans and your mourning over a fictional character. HAHAHAHAHAHA

In all seriousness, though, I'm sad Kutner died. Time will tell exactly how he died...

[Starfleet_Rambo]

Kutner dies, Taub gets arrested for murdering him, then Cameron rejoins the team and Chase!

Yes!

13 is the only one that stays!

Meh. I'm over her now though.

[topperharley]

As much as I wanted to love the show like I did when I first started watching it, the "almost kill them twice, third time's the charm" formula was getting a bit old.

It wasn't that for me. It was the fact that the new team is nowhere as interesting as the old team was, the fact that the most boring member of the old team was the one that stayed on in the biggest role, the fact that I can't stand Cuddy's character anymore ("oh, I wanna be a mommy sooo bad!"), the fact that for most of the season the Wilson/House relationship has been the worst it's been since the completely atrocious Tritter story arc in season three, and the fact that, with no interesting characters around him, House comes across less as a sarcastic smart ass and more as just an ass.

[RockBandRocker]

Kutner dies, Taub gets arrested for murdering him, then Cameron rejoins the team and Chase!

Yes!

13 is the only one that stays!



I really hope that's what happens!

[WingsOfSteel]

Kutner dies, Taub gets arrested for murdering him, then Cameron rejoins the team and Chase!

Yes!

13 is the only one that stays!

Meh. I'm over her now though.

No, no, no.

13 dies of Huntington's, Foreman quits in grief, Cameron & Chase join the team and House hires back Ridiculously Old Fraud from Season 4.

I'll miss Kutner, but that would be a cool team.

[Sgt Pepper]

It wasn't that for me. It was the fact that the new team is nowhere as interesting as the old team was, the fact that the most boring member of the old team was the one that stayed on in the biggest role, the fact that I can't stand Cuddy's character anymore ("oh, I wanna be a mommy sooo bad!"), the fact that for most of the season the Wilson/House relationship has been the worst it's been since the completely atrocious Tritter story arc in season three, and the fact that, with no interesting characters around him, House comes across less as a sarcastic smart ass and more as just an ass.

Oh, all that as well. The predictable formula was just the first thing that came to mind when I posted that, but yeah...I entirely agree with everything you mentioned.

While I hate to see Kutler go (he was my favorite of the new ones, though that isn't saying much), it opens the door for something to come in and make the show great again.

(Off topic, but whatever happened to that guy House hired to stalk Wilson?)

[Apples]

Solving a murder puzzle is very much in the flavor of solving a medical puzzle. So I don't discount anything just yet.

I could see that twist happening, especially with the whole left/right handed thing. Either that was an error in the script writing or a giveaway how House will eventually figure it out.

It would also be a great avenue to bring back Cameron/Chase to more prominent roles on the series by bringing them back on the team.

[BuRn7 CaK3]

Solving a murder puzzle is very much in the flavor of solving a medical puzzle. So I don't discount anything just yet.

I could see that twist happening, especially with the whole left/right handed thing. Either that was an error in the script writing or a giveaway how House will eventually figure it out.

It would also be a great avenue to bring back Cameron/Chase to more prominent roles on the series by bringing them back on the team.

True, plus i think Cameron still misses it all. Chase, i don't know.

[topperharley]

True, plus i think Cameron still misses it all. Chase, I don't know.

Probably not. He seems cool being a surgeon and not having to do what House tells him to. Cameron misses the mystery solving enough to have to deal with House.

But if Cameron came back to the team, she could explore those weird feelings she has about her sexuality. You know, with 13.

Cameron + 13 = ratings!

[Starfleet_Rambo]

Probably not. He seems cool being a surgeon and not having to do what House tells him to. Cameron misses the mystery solving enough to have to deal with House.

But if Cameron came back to the team, she could explore those weird feelings she has about her sexuality. You know, with 13.

Cameron + 13 = ratings!

You're my best friend. :cool:

[a21schizoidman]

Probably not. He seems cool being a surgeon and not having to do what House tells him to. Cameron misses the mystery solving enough to have to deal with House.

But if Cameron came back to the team, she could explore those weird feelings she has about her sexuality. You know, with 13.

Cameron + 13 = ratings!

Cameron + 13 = i must get my own private TV to watch it on in HD

[Stew]

I'm not too sure why they killed him off but it sucks

[Apples]

I'm not too sure why they killed him off but it sucks

If you read the whole thread, the actor is leaving to take a PR spot in the White House.

[BuRn7 CaK3]

If you read the whole thread, the actor is leaving to take a PR spot in the White House.

Yup. It's a bummer and i'm sad.

But, Cameron + Remy (13) = Awesomeness.

[topperharley]

Cameron + 13 = ratings!

I was going to say:

Cameron + 13 = [a certain other number]

but I didn't think it would be appropriate... ;)

[BuRn7 CaK3]

lol ^^

No man hugs sa_nick? You make me sad inside.

[TheDeacon_Reloaded]

Lol, quiet you :P

Also, Taub didn't do it. I *will* eat my, AND someone else's hat if I'm wrong.

*pulls out a ten gallon cowboy hat and slams it on the table*

Perhaps some salt as a condiment. Next week, all shall be seen. Or perhaps the week after....or early next season.

[aremis]

It was no shock at all.
It was already announced that Kal was taking a permanent position with the White House, which would prevent him from remaining on the show.
You should read real news once in awhile ;)

[WingsOfSteel]

I was going to say:

Cameron + 13 = [a certain other number]

but I didn't think it would be appropriate... ;)

Interestingly enough...

C + A + M + E + R + O + N

3 + 1 + 13 + 5 + 18 + 15 + 14 =

...well, do the math.

[dady5000]

Solving a murder puzzle is very much in the flavor of solving a medical puzzle. So I don't discount anything just yet.

I could see that twist happening, especially with the whole left/right handed thing. Either that was an error in the script writing or a giveaway how House will eventually figure it out.

It would also be a great avenue to bring back Cameron/Chase to more prominent roles on the series by bringing them back on the team.

Yes, give me time to figure this out. Give me time to bring out my inner Sherlock Holmes

[sa_nick]

lol ^^

No man hugs sa_nick? You make me sad inside.

lol, man hugs all round!

I went to bed just after I posted here, it was like 5:30am.


*pulls out a ten gallon cowboy hat and slams it on the table*

Perhaps some salt as a condiment. Next week, all shall be seen. Or perhaps the week after....or early next season.

Dammit, I should have specified conditions for the hat eating.

[TheDeacon_Reloaded]

Dammit, I should have specified conditions for the hat eating.

We grow our hats big here in texa--er, Las Vegas.

[BuRn7 CaK3]

lol, man hugs all round!

I went to bed just after I posted here, it was like 5:30am.

Woo! Man Hugs FTW!!

Oh yeah, i keep forgetting that. lol.

Sometimes it's even hard to talk to my friend who lives there. The last time i talked to her was a few months ago, and that was like at 1:AM here.

(Currently it's 3:10 AM)