More Rock Band than Guitar Hero...

[BTB1979]

I know this is a pretty pointless thread, but...
I'm a Real Estate Agent and I get to see many houses and many, many basements...

I have never seen a guitar hero guitar while visiting a house, but I have seen tons of Rock Band stuff. Just last weekend I visited 4 houses, and 3 of them had rockband set up in the basement. Thought it was pretty cool since I'm a HMX fanboy and all...


That's it, thanks for reading!

[Vavali]

Well that's because Guitar Hero blows.

[Zeleii]

Well that's because Guitar Hero blows.
Fanboy FTL

Guitar Hero is good... seriously, all that matters to me is how it plays

[Cubecubed]

Well that's because Guitar Hero blows.

pretty much just this.

its obvious that little kids and people who dont know better enjoy GH,but informed people enjoy Rock band.

[BTB1979]

I just thought it was an interesting observation. Everyone knows GH outsells RB. It's just intersting to me that I only see people with RB when I'm showing houses. I'm always tempted to ask them if I can play...but I must remember...I'm at work!

[xXjAmEZXx]

Well that's because Guitar Hero blows.

no it doesnt. go play it. it doesnt blow. fanboys suck.

[Cubecubed]

no it doesnt. go play it. it doesnt blow. fanboys suck.

i play both and theres a definite difference in quality...while neither is bad,Rock band is Superb.

[xXjAmEZXx]

i play both and theres a definite difference in quality...while neither is bad,Rock band is Superb.

yes exactly. but rb doesnt have queen dlc :(

[Vavali]

Fanboy FTL

Guitar Hero is good... seriously, all that matters to me is how it plays
My comment has nothing to do with being a fanboy. I got Guitar Hero II when it came out without even having played the first one (because I never have nor will ever own a Playstation), and I don't think anyone can deny the tracklist on there was incredible, even if they were basically all covers. I even got Guitar Hero III and that's when the blowing began. The boss battles were unnecessary and unfun, though the wireless guitar was a plus, though I didn't like the design. I didn't even bother getting World Tour because basically more than half those songs are on Rock Band 2 alone.

Me, fanboy? Maybe now I am, if by being a fanboy means preferring a superior product.

[Cubecubed]

yes exactly. but rb doesnt have queen dlc :(

one thing of DLC doesnt make a game....they dont have The Who,so its not a huge difference...also rush.

[xXjAmEZXx]

one thing of DLC doesnt make a game....they dont have The Who,so its not a huge difference...also rush.

but still rb needs queen :(

[Cubecubed]

but still rb needs queen :(

i agree with you 1000%

[Meatwad555]

Cool little observation! It must be a coincidence though because Guitar Hero outsells Rock Band by a large margin.

[Cubecubed]

Cool little observation! It must be a coincidence though because Guitar Hero outsells Rock Band by a large margin.

oddly enough Rock band probably makes more money tho....

[kiggidykev]

I need to be looking at houses like this.

On the real estate listings, there's no search tickbox for "able to host awesome Rock Band nights"

[aremis]

My wife and I spent the last 2 months house hunting with a realtor (That's why this thread caught my eye).

I would say at least every second or third house had the RB drums set up either in the family room or the basement.
But the best was one of the last houses we looked at. Our realtor knew I needed a very large, unfinished basement, as it needs to accommodate my home studio, and I would prefer to do the sound proofing myself as I build it. She took us to a house that not only had RB setup in the family room (poor sap was stuck with the PS2 version unfortunately), but down in the basement was a cheap ass drum set. She thought that might be a selling point for me, that someone with a cheap drum kit in their basement would sell me on it.

[Zidane]

Fanboys FTW!

[armyofadam]

i have guitar hero stuff but its from the harmoinx days

[onidragon]

I like both, but it makes sense, RB had the party thing down first.

[Mex]

I need someone to explain this to me.

If a person things that GH sucks or blows, how does that make them a Fanboy of RB?

Is it not possible to just not like that game?

[bermuddy]

wtf is a basement? :confused:

[Mex]

wtf is a basement? :confused:

You guys don't have basements in Florida?

[Sargehalo51]

no it doesnt. go play it. it doesnt blow. fanboys suck.

I own GHII, GHIII, and GH:WT...and in my opinion they all pale in comparison to RB. So your "no it doesnt. go play it" point is not valid.

[rgdrafting]

My wife and I spent the last 2 months house hunting with a realtor (That's why this thread caught my eye).

I would say at least every second or third house had the RB drums set up either in the family room or the basement.
But the best was one of the last houses we looked at. Our realtor knew I needed a very large, unfinished basement, as it needs to accommodate my home studio, and I would prefer to do the sound proofing myself as I build it. She took us to a house that not only had RB setup in the family room (poor sap was stuck with the PS2 version unfortunately), but down in the basement was a cheap ass drum set. She thought that might be a selling point for me, that someone with a cheap drum kit in their basement would sell me on it.

So when are you moving in? ;)

[Magnet]

I need someone to explain this to me.

If a person things that GH sucks or blows, how does that make them a Fanboy of RB?

Is it not possible to just not like that game?

Expressing a negative opinion on anything automatically makes you a fanboy. This is according to Internet Rules v3.0.

[Mex]

Expressing a negative opinion on anything automatically makes you a fanboy. This is according to Internet Rules v3.0.

Internet Rules v 3.0 suck.

So that makes me an Internet Rules v 2.9 fanboy yeah? Am I doing it right?

[jeccaneko]

I'm putting my house up for sale in a month. I wonder what the real estate agent and the people they show around will think of all of my Rock Band stuff. Got the Ion and everything right in the main TV room. :D

[bermuddy]

You guys don't have basements in Florida?

nope. we're at sea level, they would be constantly flooding.

[rgdrafting]

wtf is a basement? :confused:


You guys don't have basements in Florida?

Haha. I'll bet they don't have many basements in Florida. Too much ground water maybe....

Slab on grade??

Basement = Fancy dungeon

[Mex]

nope. we're at sea level, they would be constantly flooding.

Oh man that sucks. Basements are awesome. Alot of people will slap a bar down there or their entertainment centres or both.

I can't live in Florida now, must have a basement.

[jeccaneko]

nope. we're at sea level, they would be constantly flooding.

It depends. My house sits in the middle of what used to be a big stream. Neighbors have flooding problems with rain sometimes but I never do. Maybe my sump pump and everything is more awesome than theirs. :p

Only thing irritating about where my house is is the ground stays wet longer than most people's lawns. This makes green stuff start appearing on the side of my house and I've gotta clean it off every so often.

[bermuddy]

we sacrifice basement having for 60 degree winters. fair trade i think.

[Sargehalo51]

Internet Rules v 3.0 suck.

So that makes me an Internet Rules v 2.9 fanboy yeah? Am I doing it right?

Yep...that's about right, you have the concept down. Which proves that all Internet Rules are just plain stupid. Which makes me a fanboy of?

[Mex]

Yep...that's about right, you have the concept down. Which proves that all Internet Rules are just plain stupid. Which makes me a fanboy of?

Print media?

[rgdrafting]

Yep...that's about right, you have the concept down. Which proves that all Internet Rules are just plain stupid. Which makes me a fanboy of?

Internet Anarchy v6.66???

[aremis]

Print media?

...I'll take Mex for the Win, Alex.

And to the dude who asked when I would be moving into the house with the crappy drum set - never.
Found a perfect 3000 sq/ft home that was much larger, and massive basement for me to design.

[Sargehalo51]

Print media?

That's probably a good answer, considering I'm a pretty old guy and miss the days of actually getting a bunch of friends together to go outside and play a game of baseball over getting online and playing MLB2Kwhatever.

[Mex]

...I'll take Mex for the Win, Alex.

And to the dude who asked when I would be moving into the house with the crappy drum set - never.
Found a perfect 3000 sq/ft home that was much larger, and massive basement for me to design.

3000 Sq.ft. is pretty big. You must be a BALLAH ;)


That's probably a good answer, considering I'm a pretty old guy and miss the days of actually getting a bunch of friends together to go outside and play a game of baseball over getting online and playing MLB2Kwhatever.

You know I don't think anything will replace that. Some of the best times I've had was playing baseball/football/soccer/hockey or whatever with the guys.

[bermuddy]

yes on the slab on grade question

[ts2steven13]

Haha. I'll bet they don't have many basements in Florida. Too much ground water maybe....

Slab on grade??

Basement = Fancy dungeon

Haha... "Basement = Fancy Dungeon." That made me laugh. xD

It's kinda true too! But my basement is a REALLY fancy dungeon.

[ts2steven13]

Oh and I used to like GH, but I think Neversoft messed it up. Overcharting, graphics became worse, and also there is too many problems with the Wii version of GHWT. It has so many problems that the only thing that keeps me from taking it back is because I have non-refundable DLC on it. I'm not buying the next Guitar Hero, the only exception is the DS versions.

Note that I did not say it sucks or anything like that, but my opinion is Rock Band 2 is better.

[rgdrafting]

Oh and I used to like GH, but I think Neversoft messed it up. Overcharting, graphics became worse, and also there is too many problems with the Wii version of GHWT. It has so many problems that the only thing that keeps me from taking it back is because I have non-refundable DLC on it. I'm not buying the next Guitar Hero, the only exception is the DS versions.

Note that I did not say it sucks or anything like that, but my opinion is Rock Band 2 is better.

RB Fanboy! :rolleyes:

[Mex]

RB Fanboy! :rolleyes:

Oh mah gawd he's teh fanboi!!!


But not really

[MooTrain]

but still rb needs queen :(

So does Guitar Hero, frankly - they only got two queen songs (C-Lebrity is not a Queen song), and one of the two they got is horribly overplayed.

[Sargehalo51]

Oh mah gawd he's teh fanboi!!!


But not really

Ok...this thread and you guys in general have manged to make me laugh and put a smile on my face on what is otherwise a dreary, rainy, miserable, Monday morning at work.

Thank you...thank you very much.

I guess that makes me a fanboi of you guys!

[rgdrafting]

...I'll take Mex for the Win, Alex.

And to the dude who asked when I would be moving into the house with the crappy drum set - never.
Found a perfect 3000 sq/ft home that was much larger, and massive basement for me to design.

3000 sq/ft plus a massive basement?? Or 3000 sq/ft including the massive basement?

Either way, that's a good sized house. But if it's 3000 + basement...then Mex is right, you really are a ballah!

[rgdrafting]

Ok...this thread and you guys in general have manged to make me laugh and put a smile on my face on what is otherwise a dreary, rainy, miserable, Monday morning at work.

Thank you...thank you very much.

I guess that makes me a fanboi of you guys!

We are all fanbois of Mex!

What can I say, I like the way he moves....

[bermuddy]

Ok...this thread and you guys in general have manged to make me laugh and put a smile on my face on what is otherwise a dreary, rainy, miserable, Monday morning at work.

Thank you...thank you very much.

I guess that makes me a fanboi of you guys!

general is here for the lulz. check out waydrn if you dont believe me.

[Mex]

Ok...this thread and you guys in general have manged to make me laugh and put a smile on my face on what is otherwise a dreary, rainy, miserable, Monday morning at work.

Thank you...thank you very much.

I guess that makes me a fanboi of you guys!

Wooo I haz a Fanboi!! Ha ha...anything to make a Monday better ya know?


3000 sq/ft plus a massive basement?? Or 3000 sq/ft including the massive basement?

Either way, that's a good sized house. But if it's 3000 + basement...then Mex is right, you really are a ballah!

Seriously.....if I'm not mistaken the basement is not included in the 3000 sq ft.


We are all fanbois of Mex!

What can I say, I like the way he moves....

I like the way that you like the way I move ;)

[rgdrafting]

I know this is (even further) off topic, but I'm wondering if anyone has been keeping count of the "Dude! It's 4/20!!!" threads?? I'll bet there will be a metric sh!tload by the end of the day!

And, to bring it back (somewhat) on topic... will there be more 4/20-threads here, or on the GH boards?

[aremis]

3000 sq/ft plus a massive basement?? Or 3000 sq/ft including the massive basement?

Either way, that's a good sized house. But if it's 3000 + basement...then Mex is right, you really are a ballah!

No, in Canada, when buying/selling a home, you only list sq/footage based on the finished area - you do not count basements or attics unless they are finished areas.
Yes, it's a massive place. Wife wanted room to entertain friends and family, I wanted to be able to hide from the future children we plan to have. =).
Average new homes in Ottawa are in the 2300-2400 sq/ft range, so 3000 isn't really that large, in general terms.

But it's my first home, and hopefully my last.

[aremis]

I know this is (even further) off topic, but I'm wondering if anyone has been keeping count of the "Dude! It's 4/20!!!" threads?? I'll bet there will be a metric sh!tload by the end of the day!

And, to bring it back (somewhat) on topic... will there be more 4/20-threads here, or on the GH boards?

Oscar started the 4/20 here this morning.
Not well accepted in these forums by the mods. They are quick to close 'em down.

[Mex]

No, in Canada, when buying/selling a home, you only list sq/footage based on the finished area - you do not count basements or attics unless they are finished areas.
Yes, it's a massive place. Wife wanted room to entertain friends and family, I wanted to be able to hide from the future children we plan to have. =).
Average new homes in Ottawa are in the 2300-2400 sq/ft range, so 3000 isn't really that large, in general terms.

But it's my first home, and hopefully my last.

I could be wrong on this but I thought we didn't include the finished basement in sq ft even if it IS finished?

Anyway, that's still alot of room :)

I live in 1600 sq ft and it's plenty.

[aremis]

I could be wrong on this but I thought we didn't include the finished basement in sq ft even if it IS finished?

Anyway, that's still alot of room :)

I live in 1600 sq ft and it's plenty.

You might be dead right on that - Im new to buying, always assumed, but wouldn't be surprised if I was wrong on that though. Still a massive learning process even after buying.

[rgdrafting]

No, in Canada, when buying/selling a home, you only list sq/footage based on the finished area - you do not count basements or attics unless they are finished areas.
Yes, it's a massive place. Wife wanted room to entertain friends and family, I wanted to be able to hide from the future children we plan to have. =).
Average new homes in Ottawa are in the 2300-2400 sq/ft range, so 3000 isn't really that large, in general terms.

But it's my first home, and hopefully my last.

Famous last words.....

I've known so many people who say this, and a few years later, are looking at something new!


I could be wrong on this but I thought we didn't include the finished basement in sq ft even if it IS finished?

Anyway, that's still alot of room :)

I live in 1600 sq ft and it's plenty.

I think that finished basements are included in the square footage...but I know that finished basement area sometimes appraises for slightly less than 'above ground' area.

[Mex]

You might be dead right on that - Im new to buying, always assumed, but wouldn't be surprised if I was wrong on that though. Still a massive learning process even after buying.

I'm in the Mortgage biz, it's definitely not a smooth process :)

I really should know this though. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that the finished basment is not included in sq. ft.

Any realtors here that can confirm? :)


Famous last words.....

I've known so many people who say this, and a few years later, are looking at something new!



I think that finished basements are included in the square footage...but I know that finished basement area sometimes appraises for slightly less than 'above ground' area.

Might depend on the Country/state/province etc?

[Sargehalo51]

I live in New Jersey and having a basement, finished or unfinished is a huge selling point around here. Generally (in my experience of buying homes) the basement is not included in square footage, even if finished. But, it's been awhile since I bought a new home, so that could have changed. For me, if a house didn't have a full basement, I wouldn't even consider buying it. The extra room/potential living space is just too imporant to me.

[aremis]

Famous last words......

SHHHHHH!!!! Dont jinx it!
=)
All 4 of my grandparents died in their first family homes.
Every aunt and uncle still live in their first homes, except one who is a known Nashville songwriter and tends to move back and forth a lot.
My dream is to remain there - But I know things change - Like trading in my wife for a younger model and giving up the house in the process lol!
:eek:
:)

[Sargehalo51]

Like trading in my wife for a younger model and giving up the house in the process lol!
:eek:
:)

Been there done that...already traded in two wives, lost two houses in the process, and have got the younger model (21yr old...I'm 38). But...there are times I yearn for my nice big house instead of the younger model. LOL

[Mex]

Been there done that...already traded in two wives, lost two houses in the process, and have got the younger model (21yr old...I'm 38). But...there are times I yearn for my nice big house instead of the younger model. LOL

Damn Sarge, youz a piiiimp ;)

[rgdrafting]

I'm in the Mortgage biz, it's definitely not a smooth process :)

I really should know this though. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that the finished basment is not included in sq. ft.

Any realtors here that can confirm? :)



Might depend on the Country/state/province etc?

Well, I'm not an architect, but I play one at home for a living (actually, I'm NOT an architect, but I do design homes for a living...technically, I'm a draftsman).

I know that when I design a house with a basement, I have to list "Finished Basement" area and/or "Unfinished Basement" area. And the building permit fees are based on Finished vs. Unfinished.

As far as the legality of "listing" it (advertising it, so to speak), I have no idea.

I just looked at my last appraisal and it's all listed separately (which I guess is a no-brainer), but my finished basement area appraised for the exact same dollar amount ($124/sq.ft.) as the main floor area.....for whatever that is worth???

[Mex]

Well, I'm not an architect, but I play one at home for a living (actually, I'm NOT an architect, but I do design homes for a living...technically, I'm a draftsman).

I know that when I design a house with a basement, I have to list "Finished Basement" area and/or "Unfinished Basement" area. And the building permit fees are based on Finished vs. Unfinished.

As far as the legality of "listing" it (advertising it, so to speak), I have no idea.

I just looked at my last appraisal and it's all listed separately (which I guess is a no-brainer), but my finished basement area appraised for the exact same dollar amount ($124/sq.ft.) as the main floor area.....for whatever that is worth???


Ok that explains your forum name ;)

Dude I don't know, I think you've confused me more :)

[Sargehalo51]

Damn Sarge, youz a piiiimp ;)

no pimpin' here...just an old guy who hopes that the 3rd time will be the charm (though I can't complain about having the younger model to try it with).

[bermuddy]

i used to be an appraiser, but never dealt with basement. lemme tell you from experience that appraisers are as crooked as realtors/mortgage brokers. its all one big scam to make money. i can get you whatever price you need on a house. you need 215? i can make it happen. you need 315 on the same house? i can make it happen.

[Mex]

no pimpin' here...just an old guy who hopes that the 3rd time will be the charm (though I can't complain about having the younger model to try it with).

Fair enough Sarge, sometimes you gotta test drive a few models before you find the right fit ;)

Also, my realtor friend says that finished basements are NOT generally included in sq. ft when a home is listed for sale.

It CAN be but only if it has retrofit status, which means that your reno's (finishing the basement) are declared to the government. Most people don't do that though.

You'd typically see 3000 sq ft + finished basement.

I assume if the home is built with a finished basement it is included.

[rgdrafting]

Ok that explains your forum name ;)


Yeah, I know it's unoriginal and completely wit-less....:(

I've often thought it would be funny to have the forum name "Spaniard" -- but list my location as Reykjavik, Iceland. ;)

[aremis]

Been there done that...already traded in two wives, lost two houses in the process, and have got the younger model (21yr old...I'm 38). But...there are times I yearn for my nice big house instead of the younger model. LOL

I wanna hang with Sarge and learn from the master lol!

[Mex]

i used to be an appraiser, but never dealt with basement. lemme tell you from experience that appraisers are as crooked as realtors/mortgage brokers. its all one big scam to make money. i can get you whatever price you need on a house. you need 215? i can make it happen. you need 315 on the same house? i can make it happen.

Don't I know it. When I was a mortgage underwriter we used to tell the appraisers what value we needed. Low and behold they'd come back exactly as we needed down to the dollar.



Yeah, I know it's unoriginal and completely wit-less....:(

I've often thought it would be funny to have the forum name "Spaniard" -- but list my location as Reykjavik, Iceland. ;)

Ha ha...well the name doesn't really matter. But what's your avatar of?

[bermuddy]

Don't I know it. When I was a mortgage underwriter we used to tell the appraisers what value we needed. Low and behold they'd come back exactly as we needed down to the dollar.


whoa... flashbacks

[aremis]

Fair enough Sarge, sometimes you gotta test drive a few models before you find the right fit ;)

Also, my realtor friend says that finished basements are NOT generally included in sq. ft when a home is listed for sale.

It CAN be but only if it has retrofit status, which means that your reno's (finishing the basement) are declared to the government. Most people don't do that though.

You'd typically see 3000 sq ft + finished basement.

I assume if the home is built with a finished basement it is included.

Yeah, most don't announce when the finish their basements, because they need to get building permits, then have it inspected (if wiring and plumbing are being done) to ensure it's to code with Ontario's laws, and then taxes go up, but so does the value of your property. And if you intend to increase insurance coverage, it has to be to code.

For me, it's all going to be on the up and up. My whole family is trained for it from electrical to plumbers, hard floor specialists, painters you name it. So cost to do it will be low, and its worth it to cover the amount of equipment my home studio will have.

[rgdrafting]

Don't I know it. When I was a mortgage underwriter we used to tell the appraisers what value we needed. Low and behold they'd come back exactly as we needed down to the dollar.




Ha ha...well the name doesn't really matter. But what's your avatar of?

That would be Raoul Duke & Gonzo (aka Johnny Depp & Benicio Del Toro)....from Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas.

[Mex]

whoa... flashbacks

An interesting business to be sure. And what happened? People ended up with mortgages bigger than the value of their homes with payments they couldn't afford.

Gotta luv it.

EDIT: Rgdrafting I had a feeling. Good movie

[bermuddy]

An interesting business to be sure. And what happened? People ended up with mortgages bigger than the value of their homes with payments they couldn't afford.

Gotta luv it.

i made my money and got out.

[Mex]

i made my money and got out.

I've been making money and trying to get out.

Sadly I have not been succesful :(

[bermuddy]

my mom is still a realtor, the hours suit her.

i personally hated the people i had to deal with. it left me feeling dirty.

[Mex]

my mom is still a realtor, the hours suit her.

i personally hated the people i had to deal with. it left me feeling dirty.

I know the feeling. In my current job I have to schmooze Realtors to send me business. In my previous role I had to schmooze Mortgage Brokers (Loan Officers) to send me business.

Definitely a certain type of personality that gravitates to that kind of work.

Pretty gross to be honest.

[bermuddy]

brokers give her kick backs when she uses them. diiiiiiirtyyyyyyyyyy

[Sargehalo51]

The sad part for me is that I am eventually going to have to go through the process of applying for a mortgage and buying a house, during this lousy time. They keep saying it's a buyers market but the houses are still priced beyond belief (here in New Jersey). I am not looking forward to the process again.

Though I can say that I have used the same real estate agent for nearly all my home purchases and it's really nice to have a good agent whom you connect with.

[Mex]

brokers give her kick backs when she uses them. diiiiiiirtyyyyyyyyyy

Well yeah that's pretty much the name of the game up here. The brokers probably do it off the books though. I have a contract with a bank and the kickback they get from us is in writing, nothing shady or under the table.


The sad part for me is that I am eventually going to have to go through the process of applying for a mortgage and buying a house, during this lousy time. They keep saying it's a buyers market but the houses are still priced beyond belief (here in New Jersey). I am not looking forward to the process again.

Though I can say that I have used the same real estate agent for nearly all my home purchases and it's really nice to have a good agent whom you connect with.

It's never a fun process, but you're doing pretty well if you have a good agent.

[aremis]

Though I can say that I have used the same real estate agent for nearly all my home purchases and it's really nice to have a good agent whom you connect with.

I will agree with you 100% there.
We didn't know how the process worked, but when we were checking out the public site for Canadian Realtors that lists all available homes, we saw one we liked, and the realtor turned out to be a childhood friend of my wife, going back to pre-kindergarden.
Doesn't mean I would trust her instantly, since they hadn't seen each other in over 8 years, but it helped.
And she turned out to be fantastic, so I would stick with her and recommend her for sure.

[droz84]

I don't think GH "blows", but I do agree RB is the better game.

[estemshorn]

Well that's because Guitar Hero blows.

you misspelled Rock Revolution.

[gmarsh]

rock band is far superior
I hate gh

[gmarsh]

rock band is far superior
I hate gh

[gmarsh]

rock band is far superior
I hate gh