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ThatAuthoringGroup
05-13-2009, 03:10 PM
At what point is rock shuffled off into classic rock territory?

20 years? 25, 30?

Is Guns n Roses Appetite for Destruction a classic rock album now?

Is Bon Jovi Slippery When Wet a classic rock album?

Is Def Leppard Pyromania a classic rock album?

If not then when is the cut off?

Just curious what the common consensus was on age of an album before it hits classic rock status.

Gowienczyk
05-13-2009, 03:15 PM
Ask the people who run the radio format, because that's what classic rock is; a radio format.

Mister_Rogers69
05-13-2009, 03:16 PM
I say 25 years, but there are still some albums that I will never refer to as classic rock, like almost any metal albums. Classic Metal would make more sense than classic rock, its a very generic term.

Bulkdarthdan
05-13-2009, 03:18 PM
I don't really think classic rock depends on how old it is, I think it depends on the style of the music. Well that's my assumption.

ThatAuthoringGroup
05-13-2009, 03:18 PM
Yeah I realize personal taste seems to go into this as well.

There are some classic pink floyd albums, and then others...not so much.

But again the question has to be then who decides these things?

Is it personal taste?

If so whos?


And Classic rock goes farther than just a radio station, otherwise why would we have the genre in Rock Band?

ThatAuthoringGroup
05-13-2009, 03:20 PM
I don't really think classic rock depends on how old it is, I think it depends on the style of the music. Well that's my assumption.


That was what I was curious about.

Was classic rock a period of history...say 65-79?

or is it the age of the music?

Again I realize not every album becomes a classic just because it's old, but when do the really great albums you remember as a younger person become a classic album?

Or does it not, because it's a time in history?

ROCKBANDFANATIC7526
05-13-2009, 03:26 PM
Today I heard Under The Bridge and Interstate Love Song on classic rock radio.:confused:

afterstasis
05-13-2009, 03:35 PM
classic rock is just a radio format (so yes, lots of 90's bands are now classic rock) unless it's just someone pairing the two words together, at which point it's based on the individual's definition of "classic".

General Lein979
05-13-2009, 03:44 PM
I've heard black hole sun on a classic rock station before. I think smells like teen spirit would be funny crammed between rush and boston.

onidragon
05-13-2009, 03:45 PM
In Rock Band, it's a point in history(60's-70's radio-friendly rock) but in real life it's a radio station's way of labeling 10+ year old music. Hell, Ten has become a staple of classic rock radio in my town.

tridentgum0
05-13-2009, 03:48 PM
Judging it by age will suggest bands like Creed and Nickelback will join the prestigious Classic Rock genre in 20 or so years. That musn't happen.

afterstasis
05-13-2009, 03:59 PM
Judging it by age will suggest bands like Creed and Nickelback will join the prestigious Classic Rock genre in 20 or so years. That musn't happen.

i've heard creed on classic rock radio more than anywhere else.

warthogdb
05-13-2009, 04:07 PM
In Rock Band, it's a point in history(60's-70's radio-friendly rock) but in real life it's a radio station's way of labeling 10+ year old music. Hell, Ten has become a staple of classic rock radio in my town.

I think this is the definition of classic rock. "Radio friendly rock" from all previous generations that appeals to the target demographic - males between 25 and 50 or whatever.

AKALink
05-13-2009, 04:25 PM
It depends. AC/DC is considered classic rock on my radio station, yet it is just labeled rock on Rock Band. It all depends on if the songs/album/artists were innovators of rock music or it's just old. And when does Rock and Roll start and Rock Begin, the Beatles and the Grateful Dead were playing and writing that stuff after that era.

Soror_YZBL
05-13-2009, 04:30 PM
Just curious what the common consensus was on age of an album before it hits classic rock status.

When a sizable portion of the fans are bloated and overweight middle aged trailer park dwellers, whose only escape from their dead end job, self-obsessed brats and the harpy who destroyed their lives screaming in the kitchen about some bull**** (that woman never shuts up!), is sitting on the front porch with a case of budweiser, it's classic rock.

Runesmith
05-13-2009, 04:36 PM
When a sizable portion of the fans are bloated and overweight middle aged trailer park dwellers, whose only escape from their dead end job, self-obsessed brats and the harpy who destroyed their lives screaming in the kitchen about some bull**** (that woman never shuts up!), is sitting on the front porch with a case of budweiser, it's classic rock.

That was hilarious because of how true it is.

Julio_Strikes_Back
05-13-2009, 04:38 PM
I heard "Money" by PF on the oldies station today lol.

Onslaught_fei
05-13-2009, 04:41 PM
Ask the people who run the radio format, because that's what classic rock is; a radio format.

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warthogdb
05-13-2009, 04:43 PM
When a sizable portion of the fans are bloated and overweight middle aged trailer park dwellers, whose only escape from their dead end job, self-obsessed brats and the harpy who destroyed their lives screaming in the kitchen about some bull**** (that woman never shuts up!), is sitting on the front porch with a case of budweiser, it's classic rock.

Hooters, the liquor store, the gentleman's club, and the truck dealership do need some kind of an advertising outlet to reach their target demographic.

Lizard_King
05-13-2009, 05:30 PM
i think its up to the radio to decide

Onslaught_fei
05-13-2009, 05:44 PM
Pre 90's? I think the biggest oversight here is that classic rock generally consists of certain genres. Hard rock, progressive rock, psycadelia, blues, jazz fusion, folk rock, heavy metal, southern rock etc...

You may find some but not much post punk, goth rock, new wave, etc...

trench762
05-13-2009, 06:14 PM
I think of it more as a genre, basically it's just blues based rock to me, for example the newest band that I consider classic rock would be The Answer. The radio format thing is a good idea theoretically, but soon there will be too much lumped into classic rock if it's based on how old it is. I don't consider any 80's rock classic, that's 80's rock (or 80's metal) to me.

Mystlyfe77
05-13-2009, 06:58 PM
Pre 90's? I think the biggest oversight here is that classic rock generally consists of certain genres. Hard rock, progressive rock, psycadelia, blues, jazz fusion, folk rock, heavy metal, southern rock etc...

You may find some but not much post punk, goth rock, new wave, etc...

Part of this reflects that classic rock typically has to come from a band that was "mainstream" and popular. You're not going to see many "niche genres" in classic music.

supernova1324
05-13-2009, 07:18 PM
Hooters, the liquor store, the gentleman's club, and the truck dealership do need some kind of an advertising outlet to reach their target demographic.
Beer, Boobs, and Led Zeppelin at your local Hooter's!

Easy.

Rockbandfan23467
05-13-2009, 07:25 PM
Part of this reflects that classic rock typically has to come from a band that was "mainstream" and popular. You're not going to see many "niche genres" in classic music.

For example, good luck finding any Punk band or any Metal band other than Black Sabbath or Metallica. (Or stuff that isn't universally concidered Metal but is by some people.)

Alright_Computer
05-13-2009, 07:25 PM
For example, good luck finding any Punk band or any Metal band other than Black Sabbath or Metallica. (Or stuff that isn't universally concidered Metal but is by some people.)

I hear the Clash and the Ramones on classic rock radio...

Bub
05-13-2009, 07:41 PM
Today I heard Under The Bridge and Interstate Love Song on classic rock radio.:confused:

Wow. That needs to be on an alternative station.

Alright_Computer
05-13-2009, 07:41 PM
Wow. That needs to be on an alternative station.

No they don't. :mad: They should be on a pop-rock station.

timmay9
05-13-2009, 07:43 PM
When the song song starts getting played on Classic Rock Radio. Simple as that.

MronoC
05-13-2009, 07:44 PM
when the current wave of aging rock fans afraid of change dies and the new wave of the same type of fans gets too old to get a job at "alternative"(weezer, RHCP, post-grunge) radio stations.

ROCKBANDFANATIC7526
05-13-2009, 07:46 PM
When the song song starts getting played on Classic Rock Radio. Simple as that.

song song.:p

MronoC
05-13-2009, 07:48 PM
When a sizable portion of the fans are bloated and overweight middle aged trailer park dwellers, whose only escape from their dead end job, self-obsessed brats and the harpy who destroyed their lives screaming in the kitchen about some bull**** (that woman never shuts up!), is sitting on the front porch with a case of budweiser, it's classic rock.

damn...

...yours is better.

Rockbandfan23467
05-13-2009, 08:41 PM
I hear the Clash and the Ramones on classic rock radio...

Lucky Bastard. Then again, you live in The Midwest, and I live in The South, so there must be a regional difference.

Alright_Computer
05-13-2009, 08:55 PM
Lucky Bastard. Then again, you live in The Midwest, and I live in The South, so there must be a regional difference.

Not really, it's just Blitzkrieg Bop, I Fought the Law, Rock the Casbah, and Should I Stay or Should I Go. Nothing too interesting there, just the typical Clash/Ramones hits.