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Afrobean
12-06-2007, 05:33 PM
I'd love to see a guitar perhipheral with wooden fingerboards and metal frets. I've love to see drum kits with a set up that actually resembles real drum kits (like edrums for instance), including a kick pedal that actually feels like a real kick. Mic doesn't have much room for improvement, but a mic stand would certainly be nice.

And yeah, these things would probably be pretty expensive, but I know I'd definitely be willing to drop 100$ on a nice guitar controller

John Locke
12-06-2007, 05:37 PM
This month's issue of game informer has a real guitar that was gutted and converted to work with GH. I think it was like 300 bucks though.

Afrobean
12-06-2007, 05:41 PM
This month's issue of game informer has a real guitar that was gutted and converted to work with GH. I think it was like 300 bucks though. Well that's because they had to buy a fully functional guitar, gut it, then mod it.

What I'm suggesting is basically what we have already, except with higher quality materials used in production. Wooden fingerboards and wooden buttons with metal frets wouldn't cost 300$ to produce. It'd cost a lot more than plastic, I'm sure, but definitely not 300$. I mean, a cheap fully functional electric guitar can cost about 100$, and they have nice wooden fingerboards and metal frets, along with presumably more complicated electronics inside.

John Locke
12-06-2007, 05:54 PM
yeah I agree with you. These we some special edtion guitars that they had in Game Informer. This link has a picture of the one they showed in the magazine.

http://thegamergene.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/guitar_hero_3_pantera.jpg

luminary pants
12-06-2007, 06:09 PM
The market for that would be so small that it really isn't worth the effort.

Feigned
12-06-2007, 06:30 PM
I imagine that one would cost too much for most people to afford, so I doubt HMX would decide to release such a product. There's always the chance that a third-party might offer one, similar to the AG Riffmaster for GH. Personally, I'd probably have more fun making my own. Onec I get some free time, that's exactly what I hope to do. :cool:

John Locke
12-06-2007, 06:33 PM
Yeah that link that I posted to. In game informer they said it cost about 300. If somebody has that kind of money to spend on a guitar that only works for a video game, they have too much money and too much free time.

Feigned
12-06-2007, 06:45 PM
Too much money, perhaps. But depending on who you ask, anyone who spends their days playing a game with plastic instruments have too much time on their hands. But what do they know? :p

Personally, I spend a lot of time working, and it's relaxing to play the game. It's also a lot of fun to work on custom instruments. I spent a little less than a month designing and creating my custom SG controller for my Xbox 360, and it was worth every minute, as I hated the X-plorer.

Ryder35
12-06-2007, 06:53 PM
I would pay a good deal of money for a reliable drum set that looked a bit more like the real thing.

MuyMacho
12-06-2007, 09:53 PM
I think this will happen. If Rock Band continues to build as the platform it can be, which to me is like some weird hybrid of iTunes Music Store and some karaoke game, people will demand higher quality and more personalized instruments. I see people getting a game system specifically for this, like many have bought the Wii specifically for Wii Sports, and if that's all you want to do with it, you'll put money into better instruments.

I'm sure this game could be around for 3-4 years and beyond, if they keep adding DLC of all genres - I was listening to Peter Tosh on the 'Rockers' soundtrack the other day and I thought "This could be great on Rock Band," and that's the key: Rock Band is not limited to 'rocking out' like 'Guitar Hero' is. Many types of music can be offered to an ever-splintering audience of fans.

And if it reaches that level, like it could, I doubt those drums are going to last the entire lifetime. We see people modding guitars for Guitar Hero, and I'm sure it's already in someone's mind (or workshop) to mod the drums for RB. I'm already thinking of separating and raising the green pad, so it's more like a crash or ride cymbal, and leveling the other drums out a little bit. And of course the kick pedal mods are all over this forum.

I wonder if the game can be made to sense velocity? I would love to see that in some higher-end drums - the existing drums are just on/off. Also I'd like to see a downloadable 'learn to drum' series of lessons, so you could just jam out with the drum sounds to a click track...

If someone made a nice, higher-end drum set with better feel/layout, one that looked cool in your corner, I would buy it for up to $200-300. The game is that fun.

MuyMacho
12-06-2007, 09:55 PM
Yeah that link that I posted to. In game informer they said it cost about 300. If somebody has that kind of money to spend on a guitar that only works for a video game, they have too much money and too much free time.

Man, it makes me sad when people say that sort of thing. We're ALL wasting time and money if you apply that logic too freely.

tomahawk72
12-06-2007, 10:08 PM
I would definitely pay a lot more money for a better and cooler drum kit with double bass pedals.
I don't care about the guitar because I'm a guitarist and already have real guitars.

tomahawk72
12-06-2007, 10:10 PM
I would definitely pay a lot more money for a better and cooler drum kit with double bass pedals.
I don't care about the guitar because I'm a guitarist and already have real guitars.

If you want to mod a guitar I would go to a pawn shop and pick up a cheap guitar there.

smmcfly1
12-06-2007, 10:23 PM
I was talking to my friend about this the other day...... I would definately spend $300 on a drum set........... I think the way to do this would be to come up with a design or two and sell it to custom orders only, that way they don't produce too many if it doesn't sell. My money is spent if they decide to do this!

Afrobean
12-06-2007, 11:23 PM
I would definitely pay a lot more money for a better and cooler drum kit with double bass pedals.
I don't care about the guitar because I'm a guitarist and already have real guitars.

If you want to mod a guitar I would go to a pawn shop and pick up a cheap guitar there. That would be meaningless without in game support.

Personally, I would love to see a set with 4 dedicated drum pads (one snare, 2 toms, and a floor tom), a dedicated ride pad, a dedicated crash pad, a dedicated hihat pad, and double pedals (which could be used for hat or as double bass drum depending on song). But this would need in game support, and I don't know if they would want to increase the complexity of things to that degree, especially since such a kit would cost a LOT more than the one that we have now. What I'm describing is little more than a edrum set, and even a cheap one would set you back a couple hundred bucks. I'd love it, but I don't think most people would want to pay 400$ for a Rock Band sequel.

A more complex guitar, on the other hand, wouldn't require changes to game mechanics. A more simple change for the drum kits like what I'm talking about for the guitar would be a lot more reasonable. Maybe just a change in placement to have the snare parallel to the floor and to have the pad that would be the hihat to the left of the snare.

ps oh and as was mentioned, I'd love to see a jam option for drums so we could just fool around with it if we want.

Brainp0wa
12-06-2007, 11:39 PM
I would love a better guitar and will happily pay for one. The wife and I have been really loving RB, but the guitar... I would say its a bit... and I don't want to use the word "flimsy" but...

Oops. I guess I did it anyway.

Loozinit
12-07-2007, 03:27 AM
yea, i'd say the next generation of peripherals could really be amazing, or 3rd party sets.....
guitars would be relatively easy, and only cost a bit more on the production side.

the drum kit is where things could really take off, i'd personally like to see the cymbals separated in some way, or maybe made of rubber/something similar w/the sensor inside...but actually looking like cymbals.....
as for adding pads/cymbals/double bass (prob never happen because all previous songs would have to be re-coded w/more buttons) sturdier pedal would be great though.

all we can do is wait, people will drop money on peripherals though.....just think of the money people drop on karaoke setups and discs. and you get MUCH more w/rockband and hopefully in the future when the library expands it'll be able to compete w/karaoke. (rename them rockband bars....haha)

trilidar
12-07-2007, 04:16 AM
Since I've been begging for this since GH2 (PS2): obviously I'd be WAY up for it.

Since video games are my only hobby and I have a degree of disposible income, I would seriously welcome higher end (and hence, higher priced) controllers.

If this ever comes to fruition, could we please also make them 1:1? The Strat's a nice start, but it's still only like 3/4 scale.

tril

teh_roc
12-07-2007, 04:43 AM
The market for that would be so small that it really isn't worth the effort.

I dont know about that. Rock Bands bundled instruments are poorly constructed. HMX should have stayed with a company that put out quality controllers.

Rock Band is an excellent game, but the actual peripherals I'd give a 2/10.

tbradshaw
12-07-2007, 05:02 AM
I bet we will have high quality third party peripherals at some point. If anything, for bars. Rock Band is positioned to be a platform similar to karaoke. While the current instruments are great for the living room, they won't cut it at a bar.

MaxMeanie
12-07-2007, 05:03 AM
Here is a link to art guitar, the ones seen in Gameinformer, where they basically gut out a real guitar and make it into a GH controller. They are pretty sweet but $400 bucks is a little steep. http://www.artguitar.com/servlet/StoreFront

Quastor
12-07-2007, 05:08 AM
Here is a link to art guitar, the ones seen in Gameinformer, where they basically gut out a real guitar and make it into a GH controller. They are pretty sweet but $400 bucks is a little steep. http://www.artguitar.com/servlet/StoreFront

I was just about to post that!

There's a couple cool Lynyrd Skynyrd designs there.

Brainp0wa
12-07-2007, 05:50 AM
One of the Pantera ones sure would be cool to have.

R.I.P Darrell.

Afrobean
12-07-2007, 01:44 PM
I don't like the buttons on those ones. Same as Guitar Hero's.

I would rather have wooden buttons with frets on them, sort of like the Rock Band ones, except with frets between the button.

I would also love to see it full size, but I don't mind having a smaller scale, since full size would make playing a little harder.

John Locke
12-07-2007, 04:44 PM
Man, it makes me sad when people say that sort of thing. We're ALL wasting time and money if you apply that logic too freely.

I just meant that anybody who would pay $400 for a guitar that only works on a video game. Not people who play games like rock band and guitar hero. I play both of them all the time, but would never pay $400 for a guitar to play the game. Sorry if you misunderstood me.

Frederf
12-07-2007, 06:08 PM
If they kept it around 2x the normal controller price, I'd be all over that shiz.

One problem with going high end is suddenly people expect to be able to service their guitars instead of replace the whole thing which makes it that more complicated. You don't throw away a $1600 guitar because one of the pickups died, you get it fixed, which means a shop, and a supply of spare parts.

One of my biggest complaints about GH/RB controllers is how small and light they are. The same level of manufacture but in full scale and a few lead weights around to make it like the real thing would do a lot for my enjoyment and wouldn't add too much to the cost.

Fiberglass, wood, shiny bits... yeah that could ask extra. Honestly Fender makes an electric guitar for $99.