Rate Green Day In Terms Of Greatness

[jgosh]

Are they the worst band in the world or the best? Post your thoughts on their career thus far.

[darkstar5692]

def not the worst that goes to fall out boy weezer and panic at the disco. But they're down there. Way down there

[jgosh]

def not the worst that goes to fall out boy weezer and panic at the disco. But they're down there. Way down there

Weezer??? You sir are full of fail.:rolleyes:

[Cpt. Overkill]

def not the worst that goes to fall out boy weezer and panic at the disco. But they're down there. Way down there

Fall Out Boy doesn't deserve all the hate they get. They are relatively talented, but their music isn't the best.

[Bobman32x]

I dont think they'll ever get the fandom from me again that i had in the nimrod/warning days. But I still love em

Oh. Dookie is over rated,

[ffwarriorsGHOST]

3

[jgosh]

green day sucks, sorry im just going to say it boldly.

I liked how, on the colbert report, they tried to make themselves sound so noble by refusing to sell their albums at walmart, like that means anything. Walmart doesn't need them to make money, they sell guns too(this is implying that only rednecks shop at walmart, by the way).

I think their earliest work, is in my opinion, their BEST work.

Yeah, and they all sounded unintelligent. Even the guy who didn't talk. :p

[Alright_Computer]

I'd normally give them a 3, but they plagiarize other artists' work pretty blatantly, so they get a 2 from me. As a musician, plagiarism is NOT cool.

[Stewie]

^they don't plagiarize

Green Day's awesome and I'm tired of all the effing haters.
They sell crap loads of albums. And they've all gone platinum. And people think they're so cool just cause they hate on Green Day. I'm tried of it. You can dislike em. But you can't deny their talent or popularity.

[CommonCriminal]

I didn't see anything lower than one so...

[Cpt. Overkill]

^they don't plagiarize

Green Day's awesome and I'm tired of all the effing haters.
They sell crap loads of albums. And they've all gone platinum. And people think they're so cool just cause they hate on Green Day. I'm tried of it. You can dislike em. But you can't deny their talent or popularity.

Popularity =/= talent.

[jgosh]

Green Day's awesome and I'm tired of all the effing haters.
They sell crap loads of albums. And they've all gone platinum. And people think they're so cool just cause they hate on Green Day. I'm tried of it. You can dislike em. But you can't deny their talent or popularity.

Really? They aren't very talented at all. Actually their music is quite simplistic and can be played my amateur muscians half the time.

[Stewie]

Hey, you. Isn't Family Guy on right now or something?

I have the right to state my opinion. Stop trolling.

[Alright_Computer]

Really? They aren't very talented at all. Actually their music is quite simplistic and can be played my amateur muscians 100% the time.

Fixed. Not that being untalented at an instrument is necessarily a bad thing, of course.

[jgosh]

Fixed. Not that being untalented at an instrument is necessarily a bad thing, of course.

Well, you know what I meant. :D

[Stewie]

Really? They aren't very talented at all. Actually their music is quite simplistic and can be played my amateur muscians half the time.

Their music may be generally simple chord wise but their talent lies in their lyrics. And they have certainly developed talent wise over the years. Listen to Jesus Of Suburbia. In fact listen to all their new stuff. (American Idiot, 21st Century Breakdown) They're making rock opera albums. Their talent lies in the way they split songs into several interesting parts and the lyrics they use.

[Alright_Computer]

I have the right to state my opinion. Stop trolling.

Everyone else has the right to state their opinion, too, but you're calling out the "haters" of Green Day because of their opinion. That's kind of counterproductive.

[Stewie]

Everyone else has the right to state their opinion, too, but you're calling out the "haters" of Green Day because of their opinion. That's kind of counterproductive.

Haters as in people who give no reason on hating on them or give bs reasons. I respect people who say their not my taste. Not people who say I hate Green Day cause they suck. And don't explain anything.

[jgosh]

Their music may be generally simple chord wise but their talent lies in their lyrics. And they have certainly developed talent wise over the years. Listen to Jesus Of Suburbia. In fact listen to all their new stuff. (American Idiot, 21st Century Breakdown) They're making rock opera albums. Their talent lies in the way they split songs into several interesting parts and the lyrics they use.

Umm, beg your pardon, but shouting that America is full of idiots is not a talented political lyric. Nor does it make sense that they turn around and take money from America. Thus they are American idiots.

[Cpt. Overkill]

Haters as in people who give no reason on hating on them or give bs reasons. I respect people who say their not my taste. Not people who say I hate Green Day cause they suck. And don't explain anything.

Okay.

They suck because they play repetitive, simple riffs.

Are you happy?

[Alright_Computer]

Better yet, they suck because I don't like their music at all. And they're plagiarists. Really big ones.

[Stewie]

Umm, beg your pardon, but shouting that America is full of idiots is not a talented political lyric. Nor does it make sense that they turn around and take money from America. Thus they are American idiots.

Listen to Holiday and Boulevard Of Broken Dreams. Their lyrics are griped right out of important and deep rooted current events.
Enough I'm done. I've stated my opinion. I'm not gonna change my opinion. And I'm not trying to change anyone else's.

[HeyRiles]

8!

EDIT: Oh dag, somehow I always mix up Greatness with Suckiness. How annoying

[Cpt. Overkill]

Listen to Holiday and Boulevard Of Broken Dreams. Their lyrics are griped right out of important and deep rooted current events.
Enough I'm done. I've stated my opinion. I'm not gonna change my opinion. And I'm not trying to change anyone else's.

Somebody has a serious case of "what I like = talent."

[BTB1979]

Huge Green Day fan here...I don't care that people hate them. I know people like plenty of bands that I hate...no big deal!

Anyhoo...


Okay.

They suck because they play repetitive, simple riffs.

Are you happy?

So any band with a simple riff sucks? Like the beatles, GNR, Metalica, etc???



Umm, beg your pardon, but shouting that America is full of idiots is not a talented political lyric. Nor does it make sense that they turn around and take money from America. Thus they are American idiots.

You obviously don't get the point of the song..

[Cpt. Overkill]

Huge Green Day fan here...I don't care that people hate them. I know people like plenty of bands that I hate...no big deal!

Anyhoo...



So any band with a simple riff sucks? Like the beatles, GNR, Metalica, etc???



You obviously don't get the point of the song..

No, any band that uses simple, generic, and repetitive riffs non-stop sucks.

[jgosh]

Huge Green Day fan here...I don't care that people hate them. I know people like plenty of bands that I hate...no big deal!

Anyhoo...



So any band with a simple riff sucks? Like the beatles, GNR, Metalica, etc???




Um, you must be mistaken, GNR and Metallica do not have simple riffs. And as the Beatles are one of the originators of Rock N Roll they perfected and successfully implemented the simple riff.

[BTB1979]

No, any band that uses simple, generic, and repetitive riffs non-stop sucks.


If you listen to the newer albums you'd know they are not very repetitive...


So you're telling me the beatles suck? And everyother band that uses a simple G D C formation which is basically everyone....?

[Cpt. Overkill]

So you're telling me the beatles suck? And everyother band that uses a simple G D C formation which is basically everyone....?

You're comparing a band from 40 years ago to a band today on originality. It really doesn't work out =/.

[Stewie]

Several bands use simple riffs that are more recent. IE The Ramones, NIRVANA

[BTB1979]

Yes it does work out.
Even the beatles repeated themselves....

And hey, I notice when Green Day rips music. They happen to do it mostly from the beatles. Doesn't mean I'm not allowed to like them!

My point is that all bands are "repetitive".

I'm curious to know what you people consider "good" music?

[Cpt. Overkill]

Yes it does work out.
Even the beatles repeated themselves....

And hey, I notice when Green Day rips music. They happen to do it mostly from the beatles. Doesn't mean I'm not allowed to like them!

My point is that all bands are "repetitive".

Did we say you couldn't like them?

No. We said they suck.

[jgosh]

Who said they don't suck?

The only reason Nirvana is popular still is because Cobain died.
Prove me wrong.

I'm not with you on that front. Go Ahead and prove yourself right?

[Stewie]

Yes it does work out.
Even the beatles repeated themselves....

And hey, I notice when Green Day rips music. They happen to do it mostly from the beatles. Doesn't mean I'm not allowed to like them!

My point is that all bands are "repetitive".

Every damn song is repetitive. (every song has a chorus repeated multiple times) To say a song is repetitive is redundant.

[jgosh]

thats not how it works, i told you to prove me wrong. I have nothing left to prove.

Haha. I know you, your me 4 months ago when I was a troll oh well. Hope you grow out of it. Ha.

[Apples]

I don't even know what the question means. It might as well be asking "Rate Taco Bell in terms of pogo stick"

[jgosh]

I don't even know what the question means. It might as well be asking "Rate Taco Bell in terms of pogo stick"

I'll admit it is a very, very generalized question, therefore it is up to your interpretation Apples, lucky you. ;)

[BTB1979]

The only reason Nirvana is popular still is because Cobain died.

God knows Dave Grohl is counting his blessings!



Did we say you couldn't like them?

No. We said they suck.

Touché



Every damn song is repetitive. (every song has a chorus repeated multiple times) To say a song is repetitive is redundant.

Ah! Except Green Day songs. Listen to the new stuff my friend. And I don't mean "know your enemy". That's the worst song on the album.

Oh, and thanks for the english lesson!




Haha. I know you, your me 4 months ago when I was a troll oh well. Hope you grow out of it. Ha.

You mean you're not a troll anymore? I hadn't realized...

[chumsicles]

^they don't plagiarize

Green Day's awesome and I'm tired of all the effing haters.



Well I'M tired of all the effing fans who will not shut up about Green Day and who feel the need to flood the forums with endless topics about Green Day this, Green Day that

[Stewie]

Well I'M tired of all the effing fans who will not shut up about Green Day and who feel the need to flood the forums with endless topics about Green Day this, Green Day that

I didn't create the thread dude. I was stating my opinion. If you don't like the topic and it annoys you don't have to post.

[BTB1979]

Well I'M tired of all the effing fans who will not shut up about Green Day and who feel the need to flood the forums with endless topics about Green Day this, Green Day that


I didn't create the thread dude. I was stating my opinion. If you don't like the topic and it annoys you don't have to post.

This. I've seen alot of the threads created by haters...

[Alright_Computer]

^they don't plagiarize

They do. Quite a bit. Just listen to Brain Stew (taken directly from Chicago's 25 or 6 to 4 - it's even in the same key!), Horseshoes and Handgrenades (straight from Main Offender by the Hives), and quite a few other songs I don't care to list right now.

[BTB1979]

ive seen even more threads made by fans

Congrats! Your medal is in the mail.

I like how all this is coming from someone who likes Creed and Disturbed! Lol.

[Cpt. Overkill]

Congrats! Your medal is in the mail.

I like how all this is coming from someone who likes Creed and Disturbed! Lol.

Green Day is just as bad! lol.

[BTB1979]

I like how all this is coming from someone who likes green day! Lol.

I can do it too buddy.

Yes you can! Another medal is on its way:p
Difference is...I'm not claiming the bands you like suck. I simply don't like them...!


Green Day is just as bad! lol.

At least you're an equal opportunity hater!



lol opinions

...gotta love 'em!

[BTB1979]

sorry for the double post...

Time to hit the sack...thanks for the entertainment though. What band gets ragged on tomorrow night?

[eringoesmoo]

Can we just get to the part where we all kiss and make out..err..up?!

[BuRn7 CaK3]

4-1 are wrong. Even the people who voted for that are wrong. If Green Day was that bad, they would've broken up over 10 years ago. Obviously they are not. Most bands don't live as long as they have this time around. And of course i'm talking from 1990's-Present. Only a good Handful of bands have made it past the 10 year mark and are still strong today. Some only last one year before they break up.

[Cpt. Overkill]

4-1 are wrong. Even the people who voted for that are wrong. If Green Day was that bad, they would've broken up over 10 years ago. Obviously they are not. Most bands don't live as long as they have this time around. And of course i'm talking from 1990's-Present. Only a good Handful of bands have made it past the 10 year mark and are still strong today. Some only last one year before they break up.

Not breaking up... makes them... good..?

[BuRn7 CaK3]

Not breaking up... makes them... good..?

Technically.... yes, actually.

If no one likes a band and say that they "suck" then others follow through and none of their items is ever bought. Oh and i'm talking about actual sucking, and not people hating on them because everyone else does. Something has to be there otherwise, like i said, they would've broken up a long time ago.

[Cpt. Overkill]

So... ICP doesn't suck?

Mind = blown.

[BuRn7 CaK3]

So... ICP doesn't suck?

Mind = blown.

I wouldn't know. I've never listened to their music. But their musical styles are not in my neck of the woods. I pretty much hate Hip Hop. No matter what.

[timmay9]

The level of idiocy in this thread is astounding. I love people that hate on Green Day because they grew up.

Lyrically, they are better now than they ever have been.

And haha at Stewie saying all songs are repetitive.

[chumsicles]

Technically.... yes, actually.

If no one likes a band and say that they "suck" then others follow through and none of their items is ever bought. Oh and i'm talking about actual sucking, and not people hating on them because everyone else does. Something has to be there otherwise, like i said, they would've broken up a long time ago.

Never have I ever seen a post so lacking in logic and rational thought....


Spock would be appalled....

[timmay9]

Never have I ever seen a post so lacking in logic and rational thought....


Spock would be appalled....

It is highly illogical. Metallica has been around for 20+ years and their recent output is crap.

[Cubecubed]

anybody who says they arent going to be in the HoF are just kidding themselves,im sorry.

[rowtheboat]

9

[jeccaneko]

I gave them a 7. They're not the worst and they're not the best. They're something inbetween. I still enjoy some of their albums though.

[kiggidykev]

I ignored their newest album and went with an 8

[onidragon]

7, they ain't bad.

[Mystlyfe77]

Fall Out Boy doesn't deserve all the hate they get. They are relatively talented, but their music isn't the best.

Isn't wasting talent a reason to hate them more?
Just because someone is talented doesn't mean that they make good music or that they should be praised.



anybody who says they arent going to be in the HoF are just kidding themselves,im sorry.

Rush, The Stooges, Alice Cooper, Genesis, Yes, Kiss, The Runaways, Joan Jett, Deep Purple, Judas Priest, and many others beg to differ.

[Nuff_Said]

5.

I can take'em or leave'em. The Dookie tour was the first concert i ever went to.

[Der_Lex]

5 as well.

Mediocre pop-punk band. They have some catchy tunes, but nothing I'd actively listen to or that particularly interests me.

[coescastle]

If Madonna gets into the Hall of Fame, they certainly deserve it. :eek:

[Mystlyfe77]

Every damn song is repetitive. (every song has a chorus repeated multiple times) To say a song is repetitive is redundant.

........wow.
This comment is so wrong I can't even fathom it.

[Der_Lex]

The hall of fame is a joke anyway. A bad joke that thinks commercial success equals quality and shuns away from any music that's remotely intelligent because rock and roll should be 'working class music'.

[coescastle]

Every Green Day song defanitely does not sound the same.

[moose39]

4.

Their old stuff is really good, but their new stuff sucks.

[Lizard_King]

theres only so much you can do with three chord songs. i gave them a 6 because somehow theyve lasted so long on that mentality haha

[Nuff_Said]

theres only so much you can do with three chord songs. i gave them a 6 because somehow theyve lasted so long on that mentality haha

just like acdc.

[Stewie]

........wow.
This comment is so wrong I can't even fathom it.

It's really not their are tons or repetitive songs/bands. Obviously not every song. But there are tons of them.

[Nuff_Said]

It's really not they're are tons or repetitive songs/bands. Obviously not every song. But they're are tons of them.

did you purposely spell it "they're"?

[Mystlyfe77]

It's really not they're are tons or repetitive songs/bands. Obviously not every song. But they're are tons of them.

/facepalm

[Thom1234]

They're early pop stuff was good, but AI and 21CB are pathetic, overblown, pretentious, aimless, juvenile (and not in the good way,) overwrought, underthought, conceptually terrible, and, worst of all, utterly generic slabs of textureless "we're important and serious and stuff" arena rock. Good Lord, they're modern day U2, but cornier (if that's even possible) and with records about characters named Jesus of Suburbia and St. Goddamn Jimmy.

Overall, 4.5.

[BTB1979]

They're early pop stuff was good, but AI and 21CB are pathetic, overblown, pretentious, aimless, juvenile (and not in the good way,) overwrought, underthought, conceptually terrible, and, worst of all, utterly generic slabs of textureless "we're important and serious and stuff" arena rock. Good Lord, they're modern day U2, but cornier (if that's even possible) and with records about characters named Jesus of Suburbia and St. Goddamn Jimmy.

Overall, 4.5.

Wow! Someone is pissed that they grew up!

They're not the same guys in their 20's writing songs anymore. You can't expect them to keep writing Dookie over and over...

I'm a huge Green Day fan, and have been since the 1,039 hours/Kerplunk days. I personally love the new direction they've taken since American Idiot. I've been waiting for something good since Warning which I feel is their weakest album...

I am also glad they have full albums of good songs (in my opinion) unlike most bands these days... in this "download one single" era...

[Mega-Tallica]

I say a 3. They have one good song(Basket Case) the rest is crap.

[Alright_Computer]

4-1 are wrong. Even the people who voted for that are wrong. If Green Day was that bad, they would've broken up over 10 years ago. Obviously they are not. Most bands don't live as long as they have this time around. And of course i'm talking from 1990's-Present. Only a good Handful of bands have made it past the 10 year mark and are still strong today. Some only last one year before they break up.

So you're saying my opinion is wrong? Congratulations, you clearly don't grasp the concept of differing opinions. My opinion that they suck has no more merit than your opinion that they're good. Get used to it.

And I would guess that plenty of bands you hate have been around for more than 10 years, so that argument makes no sense either. You can like them or you can not like them, I don't really care, but don't come up with phony reasons as to why they're good or not.