View Full Version : Older Rock & Roll songs...
muskett32
12-07-2007, 04:22 PM
Just a thought....would be great if we had some older Rock & Roll stuff, like Elvis or Straycats (Rock this Town), as downloadable content. Would bring a different feel to the game and would get the older crowd and the younger kids together.
MrNazraq
12-07-2007, 05:27 PM
Chuck Berry would be nice, some of the earlier pioneers of Rock, like from the early '50s and stuff.
Frederf
12-07-2007, 06:31 PM
As the game comes I was surprised that there's only 1 song in the 1960's decade (late 60s at that) and the rest is newer. Gimmie Shelter.
janx218
12-07-2007, 06:40 PM
In an issue of Game Informer a month or two ago, I remember an article about Rock Band in which they mentioned that they were looking at bringing in some of the older artists that really helped to shape and define rock n' roll. Hope they're sticking to that.
P.S. The Stray Cats rose to prominence in the 80's so I'm not sure I'd really consider them in the same category of "older artists" as Elvis.
WiseOldUnicorn
12-07-2007, 06:45 PM
Yeah, I saw that GI article too and it got me really excited for some of the DLC possibilities. More 60's music in the game would be awesome.
polishdog90
12-07-2007, 09:28 PM
I would like to see more Rolling stones, Some Beach Boys, B.B. King, Chuck Berry, Elivs, Beatles, Traffic, and many more early rock bands. I think one of the main problems is that most of the original master tracks have been lost.
Mojo Risin
12-07-2007, 10:46 PM
I agree we need more classic rock in RB. A few songs that come to mind and, IMO would be fun to play and sing:
Canned Heat - On the Road Again
Cream - White Room
The Troggs - Wild Thing
Steppenwolf - Born to be Wild or Magic Carpet Ride
And just for laughs:
The Trashmen - Surfin' Bird
(Oh c'mon! You know you want to hear your friends try and sing it!)
bart2712
12-07-2007, 10:50 PM
ya i agree...we need more DLC from all decades, since this is mainly a party music game, i think thatd help bring all generations together and maybe introduce ppl to new music theyve never listened to b4.
batsu336
12-07-2007, 11:05 PM
I'm sure they will expand out with DLC. They probably wanted to focus on "newer" songs for release to hit the target audience better on initial sales. The majority of gamers out there grew up in the mid-80s or later.
Theuke
12-08-2007, 12:44 AM
100% agree. Looking forward to more oldie goodness!
thetrout
12-08-2007, 02:24 AM
Blue Wizard Needs Johnny B. Goode Badly.
Dissent
12-08-2007, 02:51 AM
"We've got to get out of this place" or "House of the Rising Sun" by The Animals would kick some ass!
Id be all for it if it's not simple.
parasite
12-09-2007, 02:29 PM
Hey, hey, we're the Monkees, people say we monkey around....how about a DLC pack from them?
I'm A Believer
Last Train To Clarksville
Pleasant Valley Sunday
HPLabonte
12-09-2007, 02:34 PM
"We've got to get out of this place" or "House of the Rising Sun" by The Animals would kick some ass!
awesome idea.
Credge
12-09-2007, 02:39 PM
"We've got to get out of this place" or "House of the Rising Sun" by The Animals would kick some ass!
Allow me to be the first to say HELL NO to HotRS. Very possibly the most boring song to ever grace music. Ever. Playing it is far different than listening to it. It simply is not fun. Not for the drummer, the vocalist, the bassist or guitarist. Not even a transcribed keyboard solo would be fun. It's simply boring. Boring boring boring.
visualdeity
12-09-2007, 02:40 PM
Eh, disagree, but I won't complain if it gets put in either. I can't stand most 50s/60s music, and indeed, very little falls into what I'd even call rock. So I can't really support the idea, but if they put it in as DLC, I won't raise a fuss, because no one is going to make me buy it.
jonfitzsimon
12-09-2007, 02:46 PM
Surfin Bird = lol. That would be awesome. Nice little drum solo too.
Majic19
12-09-2007, 02:52 PM
Eh, disagree, but I won't complain if it gets put in either. I can't stand most 50s/60s music, and indeed, very little falls into what I'd even call rock. So I can't really support the idea, but if they put it in as DLC, I won't raise a fuss, because no one is going to make me buy it.
BB King, Cream, The Animals, Elvis, Chuck Berry ect. are not what you'd call rock? Where do you think it all started?
Not to mention a lot of these songs are a blast to play, especially with a group/party setting
visualdeity
12-09-2007, 02:58 PM
BB King, Cream, The Animals, Elvis, Chuck Berry ect. are not what you'd call rock? Where do you think it all started?
Not to mention a lot of these songs are a blast to play, especially with a group/party setting
Well, BB King is blues, or the stuff I've heard from him is.
Apart from that, listen to those bands. The Beatles are another good example to be added to the list. They sound SO different from the quintessential classic rock stuff like Hendrix, Zeppelin, et al, that they can't even really be called the same genre. Even the genres that split off from classic rock (like metal) sound more like classic rock than those bands do.
I can appreciate the fact that those artists influenced the artists I do like, and hate their music at the same time. It just isn't my cup of tea.
At any rate, I don't think Harmonix should never include stuff like that, because it's DLC. What does it matter if I don't like it? I don't have to buy it, and although strictly speaking I'd rather Harmonix spent their time working on stuff I did like, I also realize that isn't feasible all the time. I just put my two cents in, that's all.
Majic19
12-09-2007, 03:13 PM
wow... a little music history 101.
Clapton, Page, Plant all played and got their roots and starts in blues bands. In fact Clapton and Page played in Cream at one point. Ever hear of the Yarbirds? Look up where Daltry and Townsend got their early influences from. Chuck Berry was won of the early "rock" guitarists. Yes, BB King is blues, but like I said in my first post, where do you think rock came from? Today's metal bands are still playing the same chord progressions of these early pioneers of rock, they just do it at double the tempo. Zeppelin, Sabbath, The Who, etc. they all got their influences from early blues/rock bands and artists.
I understand if the older stuff isn't to your personal liking or taste in music. That's an entirely different discussion, and who am I to tell anyone what they should like, but to say it isn't rock is missing the point of where even came from.
visualdeity
12-09-2007, 07:31 PM
wow... a little music history 101.
Clapton, Page, Plant all played and got their roots and starts in blues bands. In fact Clapton and Page played in Cream at one point. Ever hear of the Yarbirds? Look up where Daltry and Townsend got their early influences from. Chuck Berry was won of the early "rock" guitarists. Yes, BB King is blues, but like I said in my first post, where do you think rock came from? Today's metal bands are still playing the same chord progressions of these early pioneers of rock, they just do it at double the tempo. Zeppelin, Sabbath, The Who, etc. they all got their influences from early blues/rock bands and artists.
I understand if the older stuff isn't to your personal liking or taste in music. That's an entirely different discussion, and who am I to tell anyone what they should like, but to say it isn't rock is missing the point of where even came from.
Nothing you've told me is news. However, influencing rock, no matter how heavily, does not make it rock. Blues evolved from (among other things) songs that slaves sang while working, but that doesn't make those songs blues. The artists under discussion influenced what we know as rock, and for that I give them proper credit. Their sound, however, is nothing like what we know as rock, thus it would be improper to call it rock.
You seem to be under the mistaken impression that disliking the music, and not calling it rock, means I'm unaware of its influence. Believe me, that is not the case.
WiseOldUnicorn
12-09-2007, 07:36 PM
Artists like Cream, the Animals, Elvis Presley, the Beatles, etc. were some of the original rock bands. Yeah, music has evolved since then and what they called rock in the 60's isn't the same thing as what we call rock now, but that doesn't mean the bands that formed rock suddenly stopped being rock bands. That's like saying In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida isn't a metal song just because it's 10x more lightweight than anything we would call metal nowadays.
visualdeity
12-09-2007, 07:53 PM
Artists like Cream, the Animals, Elvis Presley, the Beatles, etc. were some of the original rock bands. Yeah, music has evolved since then and what they called rock in the 60's isn't the same thing as what we call rock now, but that doesn't mean the bands that formed rock suddenly stopped being rock bands. That's like saying In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida isn't a metal song just because it's 10x more lightweight than anything we would call metal nowadays.
The thing is, though, the Beatles (pick a random band, it works for all of them) sound NOTHING like what we call rock. It's not just that they're different, they're not in any way similar. The Beatles are as different from Van Halen as jazz is from classical music. When that level of a break in similarity is reached, it's a different genre, no matter how much influence there was.
Also, I never thought of In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida as a metal song, to tell you the truth. It really isn't that heavy (unless I'm thinking of the wrong song here).
polishdog90
12-09-2007, 08:11 PM
The thing is, though, the Beatles (pick a random band, it works for all of them) sound NOTHING like what we call rock. It's not just that they're different, they're not in any way similar. The Beatles are as different from Van Halen as jazz is from classical music. When that level of a break in similarity is reached, it's a different genre, no matter how much influence there was.
Also, I never thought of In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida as a metal song, to tell you the truth. It really isn't that heavy (unless I'm thinking of the wrong song here).
Im not sure if you knew this, but rock is a very vague catagory. It has many subgenres and just because you don't call a band rock doesnt mean it isnt. For example metal. Listen to As I Lay dying and then listen to The Who. Its hard to say that they are a part of the same genre, but they are. The Beatle are a rock, but they fall under the sub genre of pop rock. This doesn't mean that they aren't rock, but they are a different style of rock. Plus who says playing blues or older stuff wouldnt be a blast even if it isn't rock?
ktm450exc
12-10-2007, 04:54 AM
Surfin' Bird by The Trashmen would be great.
A few more would be -
Louie Louie by The Kingsmen
Surfer Joe by some guys
Deadmans Curve by Jan and Dean(?)
Chantilly Lace by Big Bopper
And as a novelty, Flying Purple People Eater by some guys who I forget too.
Though they don't have singing parts, I think Wipeout, Pipeline, and Walk Don't Run would also be nice.
ShadowOfEden
12-10-2007, 04:58 AM
You want older rock and I want modern metal. That's a fair deal.
dfjdejulio
12-10-2007, 05:14 AM
The Trashmen - Surfin' Bird
Need Dr. Demento pack!
Surfin' Bird, Purple People Eater, Monster Mash, Wet Dream, Dancin' Fool...
Kingfish
12-10-2007, 05:31 AM
...(pick a random band, it works for all of them) sound NOTHING like what we call rock.
The argument could be made in reverse too...what you call rock sounds nothing like REAL rock. Call it classic rock if you want but it is the originator...the pater familias.
But really, when a type of music changes or evolves to something with no semblance to its roots...TYPICALLY...the new music adopts a new name. You can't change the fact that the rock of the late 50s up to the mid 60s along with its blues/country/rockabillie background is the REAL rock here. No matter how many times you scream that OLD rock doesn't sound like rock...it can't make it right. The correct way to say it is modern rock doesn't sound like its rock roots
Basically saying the 2008 Chevy Camero looks nothing like the 1968 counterpart in NO way erases which one is the real classic.
Same with rock.
Majic19
12-10-2007, 06:48 AM
Thank you Kingfish. You put it nicely.
Don't get me wrong, I am not slamming newer sub genres of rock. I love these new bands too, but it's sad and sort sighted when people think if it's not thrash metal, it's not rock (I only use thrash metal as an example). I am not pining away for "the good ole days" ONLY. I would just like to see some of these songs included with this game as well as all other, newer sub genres of rock. By including them in this game younger people hopefully may learn something about where "ROCK" came from. Just like older rockers can play songs from todays bands that they may never, otherwise, have listened to. Expand your view/knowledge/appreciation, it will probably make you appreciate and enjoy all music even more and it will certainly make you a better musician. And like I said before, some of these older songs are just really fun to play! Have your heard Judas Priest's remake of "Johnny be Good"? Van Halen's remake of "You Really Got Me"? Those songs rock and... are fun songs to play.
Lecseasion
12-10-2007, 07:14 AM
I'd like to get some Bob Seger, The Doors, Hendrix, and please get a AC/DC DLC. As mentioned before a Beach Boys DLC would be great!
Frederf
12-10-2007, 10:58 AM
I would happily play any part (lead, bass, vocal, drum) on:
Dire Straights - Sultans of Swing.
Also there's probably some Led Zeppelin songs that would be good.
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