View Full Version : Muslim Chant in new Punch-Out!!?
Zidane
06-03-2009, 12:41 AM
Before you read or watch anything, know that I am in no way affiliated with this person, hell I have a pretty liberal standing on everything. I just want to know what you think.
Allah Akbar? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9C7jQcGl0c) (Note: Some disturbing issues ahead.)
Article (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/92135-Punch-Out-Boxer-Accused-of-Uttering-Islamic-Phrase)
Remember back in January when Indiana mom Rachel Jones heard the Nintendo DS game Baby Pals say, "Islam is the light?" It's happened again and the offending title this time around is the recently-released Nintendo Wii title Punch-Out!!, which according to self-styled conservative pundit and long-time gamer Del Riley features a Turkish character named Bald Bull who utters the phrase "Allah Akbar."
"Allah Akbar," which is typically translated as "God is great," is used by Muslims in a variety of situations but has become most notorious as the battle cry of terrorists and suicide bombers. This makes it problematic, Riley claimed on his YouTube channel, because despite its other connotations, "we can't forget that this phrase is fiercely inflected before murderous animals do things like" the September 11 bombings of the World Trade Center.
"Not even eight years after 9/11, are we going to accept this phrase in a videogame rated 'E' for Everyone?" he said. "What do the families of [the victims of] these heinous crimes think of this? Is this good for our children?"
But does Bald Bull actually speak the phrase at all? Riley's YouTube replay of the sequence in question, available around the 2:10 mark if you're not interested in watching the whole thing, is debatable at best. Much like the burbling in Baby Pals, what you hear is largely a question of what you want to hear. With Riley's guidance I can pick up the barest outlines of the phrase; without it, I'm sure I'd hear nothing more than the angry shouting of a huge Turkish dude who can't lay a glove on me.
I myself don't agree with him, but even if Bald Bull is saying it, so what?
kiggidykev
06-03-2009, 12:42 AM
People hear what they want to hear.
estemshorn
06-03-2009, 12:47 AM
why does it matter that it's muslim??
I for one don't really give a damn.
Zidane
06-03-2009, 12:52 AM
why does it matter that it's muslim??
I for one don't really give a damn.
It's basically the equivalent of hallelujah, but it has a negative cogitation thanks to paranoid freaks.
estemshorn
06-03-2009, 12:54 AM
It's basically the equivalent of hallelujah, but it has a negative cogitation thanks to paranoid freaks.
i know.
i mean you don't go re-making games just because there is a little spanish chant in it, or a french chant, then why do it if it's a muslim chant??
Zidane
06-03-2009, 01:04 AM
i know.
i mean you don't go re-making games just because there is a little spanish chant in it, or a french chant, then why do it if it's a muslim chant??
That's a question to ask the guys who created Little Big Planet, I guess.
estemshorn
06-03-2009, 01:07 AM
That's a question to ask the guys who created Little Big Planet, I guess.
yeah, i was somewhat referring to that.
but still, so what? I know that not one actual gamer will care about if a song has a muslim chant, or if someone says something muslim in the game or anyhing like that.
Zidane
06-03-2009, 01:09 AM
yeah, i was somewhat referring to that.
but still, so what? I know that not one actual gamer will care about if a song has a muslim chant, or if someone says something muslim in the game or anyhing like that.
Exactly, but the guy in the video, who is indeed an idiot, says that it may be of harm to the family's of 9/11. The worst thing is that he actually shows a clip of the planes hitting the towers. Classy.
estemshorn
06-03-2009, 01:13 AM
Exactly, but the guy in the video, who is indeed an idiot, says that it may be of harm to the family's of 9/11. The worst thing is that he actually shows a clip of the planes hitting the towers. Classy.
I mean if the family's of 9/11 complained to the company that made the game, then it'd be different. but it's not like they stop making nintendogs just because it might harm someone who's dog died.
Zidane
06-03-2009, 01:18 AM
Not just that, but do we stop games where you kill Muslim terrorist? I mean, they actually do chant that in the game!
tridentgum0
06-03-2009, 01:21 AM
I have Muslim friends, and they are some of the coolest people I've ever met. This sickens me.
estemshorn
06-03-2009, 01:24 AM
I have Muslim friends, and they are some of the coolest people I've ever met. This sickens me.
i know.
just because 9/11 was caused by a couple muslims doesn't mean that we automatically have to hate all muslims. in the declaration of independence it says all men are created equal. and i don't think that some people are aware of that.
Runesmith
06-03-2009, 01:25 AM
I don't hear it.
afterstasis
06-03-2009, 01:37 AM
poor nintendo finally puts out a game worth playing this year and then those pesky terrorists go and ruin it for them! fiddle-sticks!
timmay9
06-03-2009, 01:39 AM
It just sounds like gibberish someone would say while punching someone in a boxing match. Looking further at this guys channel makes me think he is just a tool.
Elegy
06-03-2009, 01:40 AM
It actually sounds more like
"I love..."
Something. Can't decipher the last phrase. Buuut, that's just me.
"If it ain't Christian!! Get it OUTTA MAH NINTENDOOHHH!"
Or something to that affect.
This is nonsense.
DeadPhoenix223
06-03-2009, 06:41 AM
Pres. Obama says we should make Muslims our friends...
Der_Lex
06-03-2009, 08:08 AM
Closing this because it's the kind of religious/political tangent we prefer to avoid on these forums, and because the degree of stupidity uttered by this Del Riley character really isn't worth discussing by rational human beings.
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