Who else agrees with me....

[TheClashTheClashTheClash]

...that the Sex Pistols are overrated? I mean sure, God Save The Queen, Pretty Vacant, Anarchy and Holidays In The Sun are awesome songs but how can a band with only one album get so much attention. They bore me now, I barely listen to them b/c of their lack of variety and quantity. With The Clash, they have a much wider variety in their music and obviously more music (5 albums) and the Ramones, while they lack the variety, they have lots of songs and many albums with tons of kick ass songs. I don't see why a band that had one album with a few good songs gets all this hype.

[a21schizoidman]

...that the Clash are overrated

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[Cubecubed]

if it wasnt coming from the biggest Clash Fanboy ever,i'd be more inclined to agree. :D

[TheClashTheClashTheClash]

if it wasnt coming from the biggest Clash Fanboy ever,i'd be more inclined to agree. :D

Haha. I still like the Pistols but I still think they are overrated.

And I'm trying to make my way onto last.fm's top Clash listeners...not there yet :(. Only at 2250 listens....since March lol

[afterstasis]

i doubt anyone here dislikes the sex pistols more than me.

[TheClashTheClashTheClash]

i doubt anyone here dislikes the sex pistols more than me.

Do you like the Clash or Ramones?

[afterstasis]

Do you like the Clash or Ramones?

i love the ramones and the clash have a handful of songs i dig, but overall they've never been anything special to me.

[TheClashTheClashTheClash]

i love the ramones and the clash have a handful of songs i dig, but overall they've never been anything special to me.

Cool beans. I love both of them (obviously).

[Elegy]

I think they are. Sort of. I mean, there wouldn't be The Clash w/o The Sex Pistols, but The Clash took that influence and went above and beyond anything The Sex Pistols could accomplish musically.

[MrFruitLord]

I happen to love The Sex Pistols.
So no, I don't agree with you.

[TheClashTheClashTheClash]

I think they are. Sort of. I mean, there wouldn't be The Clash w/o The Sex Pistols, but The Clash took that influence and went above and beyond anything The Sex Pistols could accomplish musically.

I think the Clash had a bigger influence from the Ramones rather than the Sex Pistols and I think there could potentially be a Clash w/o the Sex Pistols but I do agree with your last statement

[Mystlyfe77]

They're no worse than The Clash.


if it wasnt coming from the biggest Clash Fanboy ever,i'd be more inclined to agree. :D

Coming from the biggest Coheed fanboy. ;)

[a21schizoidman]

Eve 6 > the Clash

[gmarsh]

...that the Sex Pistols are overrated? how can a band with only one album get so much attention

I AGREE, I always thought the same things...just was never sure if anyone actually noticed.

[lifeindeadtime]

I agree about the Sex Pistols being overrated - but sometimes it's all about timing. They had great timing.

The Clash, The Buzzcocks, The Damned, Sham 69, etc... are all superior British punk bands.

[neckermanncj]

i'll agree

[Lolicat]

The Sex Pistols sucked and hardly fit into the actual punk subculture when you consider how they acted. The Clash also sucked though, can't stand either of them.

[Buffdog18]

i doubt anyone here dislikes the sex pistols more than me.

I beg to differ, I don't like any of their songs, then again, I'm not much for the British invasion either. The Clash and The Ramones aren't to bad though.

[Lolicat]

I beg to differ, I don't like any of their songs, then again, I'm not much for the British invasion either. The Clash and The Ramones aren't to bad though.

I win because I love punk but I like none of those bands.

[Evilbottom]

I'm not the biggest Sex Pistols fan. In fact, I barely listen to them. But I like them far far more than The Clash.

[JukeBoxHero]

Overrated? Don't know

Do I like them?Not really I like a couple of their songs, but there far better acts out there.

[ROCKBANDFANATIC7526]

Overrated? Don't know

Do I like them?Not really I like a couple of their songs, but there are far better acts out there.

This.

[Bub]

Their good but I see what your saying. THEY HAD ONE ALBUM FOR GOOD SAKES!

[idiotec]

One album or not, they're iconic. And that one album is really good IMO. Not sure how they're rated, so tough to say over, under or just right.... :rolleyes:

[TheClashTheClashTheClash]

I win because I love punk but I like none of those bands.

How can you be a fan of punk and not like atleast one of the 3 (Pistols, Clash and Ramones)? They are the 3 most influential punk bands of all time.

[Cubecubed]

Coming from the biggest Coheed fanboy. ;)

and proud of it!!!! :)


For the Record i do like all of the three bands mentioned in this order:

1.The Clash
2.Sex Pistols
3.Ramones

[ROCKBANDFANATIC7526]

and proud of it!!!! :)


For the Record i do like all of the three bands mentioned in this order:

1.The Clash
2.Sex Pistols
3.Ramones

The Ramones last upsets me. :(

[Cubecubed]

The Ramones last upsets me. :(

its not that i dont like them....i just dont like them as much as the other two.

[Meyernltn]

I agree the Sex Pistols are overrated.
and I also love The Clash.

[TheClashTheClashTheClash]

I agree the Sex Pistols are overrated.
and I also love The Clash.

Nice sig :D

[Lolicat]

How can you be a fan of punk and not like atleast one of the 3 (Pistols, Clash and Ramones)? They are the 3 most influential punk bands of all time.

Because I listen to what I enjoy, not what the bands I enjoy listened to. Well, this isn't entirely true, because the Go Gos and Patti Smith are great, but I just never 'got' those three bands.

Also, punk did not begin until Riot Grrrl.


lolnotreallybutstill

[warthogdb]

I don't really think they are overrated purely from the standpoint that they did, under the direction of their manager, kick mainstream culture in the groin. They created legitimate outrage on such a wide scale that their contribution can't go unnoticed. However, their music was largely mid tempo rock dumbed down from the Faces. They were more of a spectacle than band. Musically, maybe they are a little too highly regarded but they are the band that put the shock and confrontational spirit into the punk movement.

[GloiGloi]

I quite liked a few of their tracks but they were all shock value and publicity really. I still like Anarchy in the UK. I like The Clash but The Damned and The Stranglers were my favorites. I was going to a lot of gigs in the mid 70s and I saw a lot of really awful punk bands. There was some real rubbish out there.

[TheClashTheClashTheClash]

Because I listen to what I enjoy, not what the bands I enjoy listened to. Well, this isn't entirely true, because the Go Gos and Patti Smith are great, but I just never 'got' those three bands.

Also, punk did not begin until Riot Grrrl.


lolnotreallybutstill

Punk was born with the release of the Clash's debut LP and punk died when Joe died. R.I.Punk

[Satoshi]

I don't like neither the Ramones nor The Sex Pistols...but I like The Clash:).....can't stand the other two bands actually :p

[Lolicat]

Punk was born with the release of the Clash's debut LP and punk died when Joe died. R.I.Punk

lolno

[TheClashTheClashTheClash]

lolno

I'm a Clash fanboy, why would I except you to agree with me?


I know that the Ramones, the Damned and Pistols all had LPs come out before the Clash. And someone spray painted "R.I.Punk" on the side of a building in the UK on the day Joe died, thats where I got that from

[40FootWolf]

...that the Sex Pistols are overrated? I mean sure, God Save The Queen, Pretty Vacant, Anarchy and Holidays In The Sun are awesome songs but how can a band with only one album get so much attention. They bore me now, I barely listen to them b/c of their lack of variety and quantity. With The Clash, they have a much wider variety in their music and obviously more music (5 albums) and the Ramones, while they lack the variety, they have lots of songs and many albums with tons of kick ass songs. I don't see why a band that had one album with a few good songs gets all this hype.

I absolutely agree. There's nothing they did that groups like the Damned didn't do a hundred times better.

[Lolicat]

I'm a Clash fanboy, why would I except you to agree with me?


I know that the Ramones, the Damned and Pistols all had LPs come out before the Clash. And someone spray painted "R.I.Punk" on the side of a building in the UK on the day Joe died, thats where I got that from

I honestly don't 'get' the Clash, or the Levellers. In fact, most early punk just makes me go 'meh.'

[TheClashTheClashTheClash]

I honestly don't 'get' the Clash, or the Levellers. In fact, most early punk just makes me go 'meh.'

The Clash did what most other punk bands couldn't do, in that they went above and beyond the confines of punk.

[Lolicat]

The Clash did what most other punk bands couldn't do, in that they went above and beyond the confines of punk.

Certainly that's impressive, especially considering the movement they came from...

[Cubecubed]

this thread has a serious lack of Dead Kennedys,IMO.

[supernova1324]

this thread has a serious lack of Dead Kennedys,IMO.

Are you seriously implying that Dead Kennedys are overrated?

[Gowienczyk]

Fun fact; any popular innovator is overrated by a genres fanbase.

[Cubecubed]

Are you seriously implying that Dead Kennedys are overrated?

no im saying they deserve to be mentioned with the bands discussed in this thread.

[supernova1324]

no im saying they deserve to be mentioned with the bands discussed in this thread.

urge to injure....decreasing...

[Mystlyfe77]

this thread has a serious lack of Dead Kennedys,IMO.

Eh, they're more of a hardcore punk band than straight up punk. Either way, I like them more than the "big three" combined.

[Alright_Computer]

no im saying they deserve to be mentioned with the bands discussed in this thread.

Wait, is that a good thing or a bad thing? :confused:

[a21schizoidman]

there is a lack of mention of The Jam for sure

[Azatos]

I hate the pistols so I agree.

[MrFruitLord]

Punk was born with the release of the Clash's debut LP and punk died when Joe died. R.I.Punk

I seriously hope you're joking.

[Lolicat]

Eh, they're more of a hardcore punk band than straight up punk. Either way, I like them more than the "big three" combined.

Both of these statements. Although, Descendents and Black Flag are prefered by me because I can draw a clearer line to my prefered genres and movements through them.

[TheClashTheClashTheClash]

I seriously hope you're joking.

Read my post a little ways down from that....

[Quinarvy]

I agree with the Sex Pistols being overrated statement. Only thing I like by them is their letter to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

[Runesmith]

I agree with the Sex Pistols being overrated statement. Only thing I like by them is their letter to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

Ironically, the only thing I dislike by them is that HoF letter, while I enjoy their music immensely.

[Lolicat]

Ironically, the only thing I dislike by them is that HoF letter, while I enjoy their music immensely.

Yea, the letter struck me as a sort of continuation of their earlier controversy-hunting rather than an honest opinion. Plus anyone stupid enough to need telling that the HoF is bull**** doesn't deserve to know.

This always needs posted when talking about the Pistols (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hzQsvxtLTM).

[Runesmith]

Yea, the letter struck me as a sort of continuation of their earlier controversy-hunting rather than an honest opinion. Plus anyone stupid enough to need telling that the HoF is bull**** doesn't deserve to know.

This always needs posted when talking about the Pistols (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hzQsvxtLTM).

Precisely. It's also a really unclassy gesture, too...a simple "No, we don't believe the Hall of Fame has integrity" would have gotten their point across better and without them sounding like obnoxious attention whores. Honestly, their letter sounded like something a fourteen year old punk rawk kiddy would write.

Nick Cave's speech at the MTV Music Awards is a perfect example of how the Sex Pistols should have conducted themselves.

[Lolicat]

Precisely. It's also a really unclassy gesture, too...a simple "No, we don't believe the Hall of Fame has integrity" would have gotten their point across better and without them sounding like obnoxious attention whores. Honestly, their letter sounded like something a fourteen year old punk rawk kiddy would write.

Nick Cave's speech at the MTV Music Awards is a perfect example of how the Sex Pistols should have conducted themselves.

Speech? As I was aware, he only sent a letter... Still, it made artfag tears well up in my eyes, whatever happened. It was a lovely, very dignified gesture.

[onidragon]

I like the pistols, but I agree, they are a tad bit overrated. Also, I have never read a bigger example of over zealous fanboy-ism than Billy Joe's essay on the pistols he wrote for RS.

[Runesmith]

Speech? As I was aware, he only sent a letter... Still, it made artfag tears well up in my eyes, whatever happened. It was a lovely, very dignified gesture.

That must have been a Freudian slip on my part. :p

But yes, it was well-written and incredibly well-mannered. The rock world needs more musicians like Nick Cave, both from a musical and a personal perspective.

[Lolicat]

That must have been a Freudian slip on my part. :p

But yes, it was well-written and incredibly well-mannered. The rock world needs more musicians like Nick Cave, both from a musical and a personal perspective.

Nick Cave and Tom Waits are inseperable in my head for some reason. I imagine them to live in a crooked house with Bob Dylan.

[Nara1919]

I used to love them, but you're right, they don't have much variety. The Ramones don't have musch iether, but like you said, have alot of albums. I like The Clash, I just LOVE the Ramones...and The Beatles...

[DrumStix]

.


-_-

[a21schizoidman]

Nick Cave and Tom Waits are inseperable in my head for some reason. I imagine them to live in a crooked house with Bob Dylan.

and you are in the corner watching them

[Runesmith]

Nick Cave and Tom Waits are inseperable in my head for some reason. I imagine them to live in a crooked house with Bob Dylan.

With Leonard Cohen as the landlord.

[Soror_YZBL]

I had a huge post about why the sex pistols are not overrated, but I lost it. Here's sum up:

1. Johnny Rotten is a punk god.
2. Cook and Matlock were a solid rhythm section
3. Jones rocks the guitar
4. Mclauren is a git
5. I like bubble baths.

[a21schizoidman]

5. I like bubble baths.

win

[Soror_YZBL]

win

They're better than the sex pistols.

Oh, BTW, to answer your question the other day, it was Radar Love.

[a21schizoidman]

They're better than the sex pistols.

Oh, BTW, to answer your question the other day, it was Radar Love.

ah, awesome

[Lolicat]

With Leonard Cohen as the landlord.

Who else?

[a21schizoidman]

Who else?

Paul Simon as their pet?

[Kenny-Band]

Pistols are to Punk as The Who is to Classic or Metallica is to Metal. Interpret that anyway you want.

[Rockbandfan23467]

I agree, and Punk was born when Iggy and The Stooges and MC5 came out. It's not dead, it just smells funny.

[neckermanncj]

^LOL! at sig

[Lolicat]

Paul Simon as their pet?

Just remembered this;

http://videolicious.tv/2009/03/backstage-with-bob-dylan-tom-waits-popeye-muhammad-ali/

[Rimbaud]

I agree, and Punk was born when Iggy and The Stooges and MC5 came out. It's not dead, it just smells funny.

No kidding about the Stooges - hard to believe "I Wanna Be Your Dog" was from 1969! That tune is pure punk.

When I was 18, I was quite the Clash fanboy myself. I've long since realized that they are a pop sham in the face of the towering creativity and intensity of Pere Ubu or Birthday Party (to name just two).

Edit: OK, maybe "pop sham" is a little harsh. The Clash has their place, but to have one's musical world revolve around them just seems silly.

[DerTommissar]

I don't really think they are overrated purely from the standpoint that they did, under the direction of their manager, kick mainstream culture in the groin.

It was the 70's; there was no culture.

[TheClashTheClashTheClash]

No kidding about the Stooges - hard to believe "I Wanna Be Your Dog" was from 1969! That tune is pure punk.

When I was 18, I was quite the Clash fanboy myself. I've long since realized that they are a pop sham in the face of the towering creativity and intensity of Pere Ubu or Birthday Party (to name just two).

Edit: OK, maybe "pop sham" is a little harsh. The Clash has their place, but to have one's musical world revolve around them just seems silly.

Pop? haha the Clash aren't anywhere near pop besides two songs off of Combat Rock that are the closest they got to pop

[Rimbaud]

Pop? haha the Clash aren't anywhere near pop besides two songs off of Combat Rock that are the closest they got to pop

My point was one may start to think of them as pop in the context of punk bands like the ones I mentioned. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

[Runesmith]

Who else?


Paul Simon as their pet?

This is starting to sound like a really bizarre singer-songwriter porno...


My point was one may start to think of them as pop in the context of punk bands like the ones I mentioned. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

Hmm. I dissent a bit from this opinion. Although The Clash are nowhere near my list of favorite punk groups, Joe is a legendary lyricist, and not only within the punk genre, either. He ranks right up there with Springsteen, Cohen, and Dylan.

[a21schizoidman]

This is starting to sound like a really bizarre singer-songwriter porno....

at least it would have a good soundtrack

[Lolicat]

Hmm. I dissent a bit from this opinion. Although The Clash are nowhere near my list of favorite punk groups, Joe is a legendary lyricist, and not only within the punk genre, either. He ranks right up there with Springsteen, Cohen, and Dylan.

Sorry, the house is full.

[TheClashTheClashTheClash]

Sorry, the house is full.

No, Joe is def up there with them. He is a lyrical genious

[Lolicat]

No, Joe is def up there with them. He is a lyrical genious

He's not quite up there, but the Clash's lyrics were fairly good, I'll give you that.

[Rimbaud]

No, Joe is def up there with them. He is a lyrical genious

That may be true, although I generally don't absorb lyrics too well. For the most part, vocals only qualify as another instrument to me. Much of the music I'm most passionate about is purely instrumental.