Prog. Rock

[TheBEAST205]

This game really needs some good prog rock on it: King Crimson, Yes, The Mars Volta, Genesis, Jethro Tull, Porcupine Tree, Dream Theater. I would kill from anything from those bands.

[battle_axe_of_doom]

you were doing oh so great till you got to the last band.

DT =/= prog

[TheBEAST205]

Meh, I like to consider it prog rock allthough it is heavily metal influenced. Octovarium is a good example of the prog rockness, lol.

[polishdog90]

Add Pink Floyd

[Setsu]

Dream Theater is Prog Rock/Prog Metal. Yes this game needs a lot more Prog music, I would most likely download everything for every band listed above.

[weirdjade27]

More Prog would be awesome. It needs better representation in RB. I say we need more Rush, Dream Theater, Symphony X (Technically Prog metal), and early Genesis.

[Runesmith]

Genesis' "The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway" and "Abacab" for DLC! Also, you didn't mention The Tubes. Ignoring their later material, they are my favorite prog band by far, and I would kill to have their first album put into the game.

[Sora124]

Porcupine Tree FTW!!

If they include PT, they need to have In Absentia, Deadwing, or Fear of a Blank Planet for download.

If Yes is included, I'm hoping it's pre-90125.

[Setsu]

Porcupine Tree would be excellent! Anesthetize or Fear of a Blank Planet would be my top choices for songs.

[powdrdmilkman]

How about some Rx Bandits? Would they be considered Prog?

It doesn't matter. They should be in the game regardless!

[EdgeKrusher187]

Dream Theater is a must, or are some of you scared that you can't play it. LOL
I would also like to see some more Rush, Floyd, Opeth (prog death metal).

[battle_axe_of_doom]

this thread is a disgrace to prog

[powdrdmilkman]

this thread is a disgrace to prog


Uh oh...a prog. scenester, RUN!! He has come to show us how we are all wrong!

[NismoRR]

Just give me some Genesis, Yes, and Rush, and I'll be a very happy camper. Porcupine Tree sounds awesome, but let's be realistic. Someone mentioned Lamb Lies Down and that would probably be the best DLC as far as I'm concerned, but again, being realistic, I think Turn it on Again, Abacab is more likely. A lot worse stuff could come from the later Genesis albums. <cringe>

[Setsu]

this thread is a disgrace to prog

What exactly is your example of prog?

I personally would like to see some King Crimson too.

[WingsOfSteel]

Let's get some stuff off of Kansas' first three abums. Also, Rush, Floyd, and Yes.


Dream Theater is very unimaginative for a "Prog" Rock band. Just because you can play fast doesn't give you the right to call yourself "progressive."

[battle_axe_of_doom]

Let's get some stuff off of Kansas' first three abums. Also, Rush, Floyd, and Yes.


Dream Theater is very unimaginative for a "Prog" Rock band. Just because you can play fast doesn't give you the right to call yourself "progressive."

or just because you do concept albums or 10 minute songs. dream theater, symphony x, etc AREN'T prog at all

you want progressive metal listen to cynic or atheist, not that wankery **** like DT

[GlassPrisoner]

I've never heard anybody try to claim that Dream Theater is not prog! Just because they play fast doesn't mean they're not prog... :confused:

Porcupine Tree, Dream Theater, Symphony X, Kansas, and Rush would all be great.

Prog does not have a clear definition, but if anyone claims that any of these bands are not prog, you are probably an elitist bastard. I'd say Rush is the least progressive out of the bands listed above.

[battle_axe_of_doom]

actually you're just a DT fanboy (as evident by your username)

in which case you have a blind bias and can't see the truth. its not the fact that they play "fast" (lol @ that btw) its the fact that THEY DON'T PLAY PROG

[HPLabonte]

actually you're just a DT fanboy (as evident by your username)

in which case you have a blind bias and can't see the truth. its not the fact that they play "fast" (lol @ that btw) its the fact that THEY DON'T PLAY PROG

Listen to this man, he's 100% correct. DT is NOT PROG.

[GlassPrisoner]

Tell me what exactly defines prog? Can you name me some bands that play prog?

I want to know, because apparently your classification is different than everyone else's and is the correct one.

[battle_axe_of_doom]

^

or just because you do concept albums or 10 minute songs. dream theater, symphony x, etc AREN'T prog at all

you want progressive metal listen to cynic or atheist, not that wankery **** like DT

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[BearFan51]

Tell me what exactly defines prog? Can you name me some bands that play prog?

I want to know, because apparently your classification is different than everyone else's and is the correct one.

Apparently he regards only 2 bands in history as being prog metal, never mind, of course the title of the thread was prog ROCK. I never let facts get in the way of a good argument either, except axe is presenting neither.

[battle_axe_of_doom]

lol you ****ing moron as if i'm supposed to list every band in history... as for prog ROCK (:rolleyes:)

flasket brinner
anekdoten
paatos
alphataurus
areknames
ETC ETC ETC

[BearFan51]

lol you ****ing moron as if i'm supposed to list every band in history... as for prog ROCK (:rolleyes:)

flasket brinner
anekdoten
paatos
alphataurus
areknames
ETC ETC ETC

How about some that folks OUTSIDE of Sweden or Italy, have heard?

flasket brinner Nothing of note here. Derivatives of many other much more talented bands.
anekdoten Flat out boring
paatos I'm seeing a trend here...
alphataurus I'm sure they were fun in '73, only 2 albums? Legends to be sure.
areknames Heard one song? You've likely heard the rest.

Now I've lifted my leg on your taste in "prog", just like you've done to every single prog related thread here. Maybe you could try suggesting other bands for people to check out, instead of "XXXXX sucks", "XXXXX is not prog" etc.,etc., yada yada.

As to the moron comment, I think, given your track history of posts here, I'm not the one looking like a moron. But hey, what ever blows your skirt up, Nancy.

[Setsu]

You're the one with such a limited vocabulary that you have to resort to cursing to "get your point across". So in turn, I think you're the moron.

Go hate monger some where else.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_rock

I know wikipedia isn't the most credible source, but my god their definition sure sounds a lot like Dream Theater.

( Main article: Progressive metal

The progressive rock genre enjoyed another revival in the 1990s. A notable kickoff to this revival were a trio of Swedish bands: &#196;nglag&#229;rd, Anekdoten and Landberk, who hit the scene in 1992-1993. Later came the so-called "Third Wave", spearheaded by such bands as Sweden's The Flower Kings, the Norwegian Magic Pie, the UK's Porcupine Tree, Ezra. Russia's Little Tragedies, Italy's Finisterre, and from the United States, Spock's Beard, Echolyn, Roots of Consciousness, Cobweb Strange, Proto-Kaw (a reincarnation of an early lineup of Kansas), Coheed and Cambria, and Glass Hammer. Arjen Anthony Lucassen, with the backing of an array of talent from the progressive rock genre, produced a series of innovative concept albums (Ayreon) starting from 1995. John Miner and his band Art Rock Circus performed their rock opera Heavens Cafe in Las Vegas in 1996 and 1997, and again in Los Angeles in 2004.

In recent years, one of the more commercially viable categories of prog has been progressive metal, which mixes some of the common elements associated with progressive rock (lengthy compositions, concept albums, odd time signatures, extended instrumentals, virtuosity, jazz fusion influences) with the power and attitude associated with metal. Prog metal often gives a prominent role to keyboard instruments, in addition to using shred-style electric guitar solos, such as fusion-influenced Planet X and Mr. Big.

Several of the leading bands in the prog-metal genre — Dream Theater (U.S.), Ayreon (Netherlands), Opeth (Sweden), Fates Warning (U.S.) and Queensr&#255;che (U.S.) — cite pioneer progressive hard-rockers Rush as a primary influence, although their music exhibits influences from more traditional metal bands such as Black Sabbath or Deep Purple as well. Tool have cited pioneers King Crimson as an influence on their work.[7] King Crimson opened for Tool on their 2001 tour and expressed admiration for the group while continuing to deny the "prog" label.[8] Former members of the pioneering post-hardcore band At the Drive-In, Cedric Bixler-Zavala and Omar Rodriguez-Lopez went on to start The Mars Volta, a successful progressive band that incorporates jazz, funk, punk rock, Latin music and ambient noise, into songs that range from a few minutes, to over thirty in length.

The 2000s were also the years when progressive rock gained more popularity in eastern Europe, esspecially in Russia, where the InProg festival gained big popularity and bands like Little Tragedies, EXIT project, Kostarev Group and Disen Gage reached major success in the Russian rock scene and were noted outside Russia. Another east European band worth mentioning is the Latvian band Olive Mess.)

Use your brain instead of just hating to hate, with no reason or factual evidence.

[Gouivel]

you were doing oh so great till you got to the last band.

DT =/= prog

Dude, Dream theater is the epitame of progressive rock/metal! you cant judge a bands style after listening to one song...yeesh

[Gouivel]

It's amazing how cloudy alot of peoples ideas of Prog are...and the ones who OBVIOUSLY dont even know what real prog is....Do Your Homework People! and to those of you who do know prog, well you know who you are!

[Gouivel]

this thread is a disgrace to prog


Dude YOU'RE the disgrace!

[tombrady]

long songs does not make you prog :(

It's more about the structure of the songs, not the length...****ing around on double bass and shredding for 25 minutes is not prog.

Basically what Lord BAoD is saying is what is true.

Having said all of that, I would consider Tool prog, and Tool should be in this game :)

[Mystlyfe]

As much as I would love to see Porcupine Tree on Rock Band, let's be realistic. I highly doubt Porcupine Tree would even accept an offer to be on Rock band, or any other video game. Just look at the line "XBox is a god to me" in Fear of a Blank Planet. They have often alluded to some of the problems with today's youth, with "Fear of a Blank Planet" (both the album and the song) focusing on problems related to the youth and society as a whole. They view the inactivity and disconnection from human interaction caused by video games as one of these problems.
That being said, if they would allow for a song to be featured, in terms of gameplay it would have to be a shorter and likely one of their heavier ones. "Shallow" (Deadwing), "Open Car" (Deadwing), Shesmovedon (Lightbulb Sun), or Lightbulb Sun (Lightbulb Sun), could all work. They all have a nice blend of all different parts, aren't too long, and actually have vocals (unlike much of the stuff from Signify that would be cool).

[BearFan51]

long songs does not make you prog :(

It's more about the structure of the songs, not the length...****ing around on double bass and shredding for 25 minutes is not prog.

Basically what Lord BAoD is saying is what is true.

Having said all of that, I would consider Tool prog, and Tool should be in this game :)

The inclusion of double bass and guitar shredding doesn't automatically disqualify a band, either. Like you said, it's more about the structure of the songs. Not too many songs 2 1/2-3 min. in length have ever been considered progressive rock. So maybe length does play a part, but so do extended instrumental sections, odd time signatures, keyboards, and virtuoso levels of musicianship.

If your crowd is mostly guitarists, you are probably a shredder.
If your audience is mostly musicians, you're probably a prog band.
If your audience is mostly teenage girls, shoot yourself, you're in a boy band.:p

This game needs Tool! I'd like to see some Spock's Beard as well....

[GlassPrisoner]

The inclusion of double bass and guitar shredding doesn't automatically disqualify a band, either. Like you said, it's more about the structure of the songs. Not too many songs 2 1/2-3 min. in length have ever been considered progressive rock. So maybe length does play a part, but so do extended instrumental sections, odd time signatures, keyboards, and virtuoso levels of musicianship.

This game needs Tool! I'd like to see some Spock's Beard as well....

Yeah, I don't understand the argument: Portnoy and Petrucci play too fast, it can't be prog! :confused:

Spock's Beard would be awesome!

[Setsu]

If you'd actually listen to full Dream Theater songs, they definitely are not all shredding and double bass. I do agree that Train of Thought does go way over the top when it comes to "This Dying Soul" and "Endless Sacrifice", those two songs are shred fests. Listen to "Innocence Faded" or even "Metropolis Pt. 1" it isn't mindless shredding. Octavarium the song is one of my favorites and there really isn't any shredding to be heard.

Spock's Beard would be awesome.

[KDLynch]

Yes, please... Crimson, Floyd, Yes, Kansas, etc etc, would be a definite buy for me. :D

Moody Blues &/or Barclay James Harvest? I'd get them too!

I'd also like to see some of the pop-prog added as well, ie Klaatu and ELO. Or how about a "keyboard" controller and add in some ELP? :D

I'd also like to see (although I don't consider them prog per-se, but they do have that "sound" to them) for next Christmas, T-SO.