Official, YOU MUST INCLUDE TOOL POLL!

[Dr_Canty]

OK here it is us tool fans must communicate with Harmonix. I'm making a poll to see how many people want The greatest band ever "Tool" in Rockband. A simple yes or no poll, and of course please say yes. So we can get the message across.

[Zietes]

Umm...there is a forum for this....

[the_spike]

Yes.

this is filler.

[samxxx]

This is genious. The difficulty of singing will be intense....maynard is a mad man. All the parts will be amazing this is a band where the bass player and drummer will feel alive. Not that the guitarist wont be having a blast...and as I said about singing. Great Idea I hope it pulls through!

[TheTogfather]

Yah, despite this being in the wrong topic, I do heartily agree, in fact I started my own post over in the song request forum, " A desperate plea for Tool", where I list all of their songs that I think are Rock Band worthy. There's plenty there...they are quite simply in the upper echelon of rock and roll history and Rock Band just wouldn't feel complete without them.

Umm, and who the hell is voting 'no' here??? I will find you!

[TheRocker]

Wrong Forum , And Whos Tool ?

[Keagan2387]

Wrong section, but hell yes.

[StartSomething]

Ultimate Setlist board
That Way-------------->

[IbanezBassist_v2]

Yes, Yes, Yes. Tool must be in RB. I'm thinking Stinkfist, Swamp Song...something along those lines. Something not mainstream.

[Killerzarequiet]

Wow "TheRocker" has never heard of TOOL
what the world comming to?

[Rock_Starman]

Eulogy would be great. I'm not sure they'd make it into the main game though. DLC or bonus song would be much more likely.

[IbanezBassist_v2]

And Whos Tool ?

And you are serious?

[Dr_Canty]

didn't have time to read through all the posts i just decided to look at the forums yesterday so. my bad about putting it in the wrong place, but seriously GO go Post.

[Sonofmogh]

TOOL? That band with the phallic wrench for a logo? What kind of music do they play? Are they one of those annoying bands where the lead singer just screams "mother&@$%er" into the mic a thousand times while the rest of the members beat on their instruments? Or do they actually have a musical purpose? because if it's the former, then no.

[Dr_Canty]

all of tool's song are purposeful and have meaning. not the latter at all... I'm so surprised people who have listened to rock and are interested in a rock game have never heard of tool.

[TheTogfather]

TOOL? That band with the phallic wrench for a logo? What kind of music do they play? Are they one of those annoying bands where the lead singer just screams "mother&@$%er" into the mic a thousand times while the rest of the members beat on their instruments? Or do they actually have a musical purpose? because if it's the former, then no.

They used that logo at one time yes, I believe shortly after or before Aenima was released, about 10 years or so ago. They've had many other logos before and after that one.

As for type of music, they started out a metal band, with some yelling but mostly fairly melodic singing, and the instruments have always been top-notch, very musically inclined. They've since evolved into a more hard-rock and almost alternative type of band, although really it's hard to classify them into one category. Basically they are just four VERY talented musicians that write songs that include each and every instrument being utlized to the best of their abilities. They are perfect for Rock Band. No part would be boring and the way they all come together to form their songs would be fantastic.

The best description I've ever heard of them is Black Sabbath combined with Pink Floyd.

[logicalnoise]

if you want to know what tool is about just type these two words into youtube's search: Tool Schism . Then watch the music video. That's pretty much what tool is. Them live is a different experience but still fantastic.

[TheTogfather]

Looks like HMX is back at work today, cleaning up our weekend messes we left on the forums. Finally got this one into the correct area...

(looks like they deleted another thread too...kinda expected that one...)

[idiotec]

Who the hell is voting "No" on this? :confused:

[logicalnoise]

Who the hell is voting "No" on this? :confused:

coheed and cambria fans?

[TheTogfather]

Who the hell is voting "No" on this? :confused:

My thoughts exactly. I realize I am the epitomy of biased in this, but I just do not understand it. Why would you vote not to include awesome music that would be awesome to play, regardless of whether you like the band or not, that's not the point. For example, I have never been a big Rolling Stones fan, but 'Can't You Hear Me Knockin' is one of my favorites from GH2, it's just fun to play.

Tool would be near orgasmic to play in Rock Band...every song is just so well put together with each part feeding off the other. It's really not debatable (eek, did I just say that on the internets?)

[BarryC]

Yes, Yes, Yes. Tool must be in RB. I'm thinking Stinkfist, Swamp Song...something along those lines. Something not mainstream.

Stinkfist is the most mainstream Tool song evar.

Lulz

[TheTogfather]

Stinkfist is the most mainstream Tool song evar.

Lulz

Umm, ever heard of 'Sober'?


though Stinkfist is easily top 5 on list of mainstream songs...

[BarryC]

Umm, ever heard of 'Sober'?


though Stinkfist is easily top 5 on list of mainstream songs...

I have heard Sober, but never on the radio. When Tool got big, they played Stinkfist (even if they had to change the title/lyrics) the most.

[IbanezBassist_v2]

Mainstream Tool is Sober, Prison Sex, Aenima, The Pot.....eh, no point arguing.

[TheTogfather]

Hmm, must be a regional thing perhaps, Sober is what I hear/heard on the radio most...

[IbanezBassist_v2]

Regardless....Tool is one of the bands I would really love to see in Rock Band. Any song would suit me just fine.

[TheTogfather]

Regardless....Tool is one of the bands I would really love to see in Rock Band. Their entire song list would suit me just fine.

fixed that for ya

[tucsonovernite]

just nice to be around others who appreciate the majesty that is Tool....and hell yes they belong in rock band!.....me thinks 46 & 2 or jambi..... ... or disgustipated(justkiddin)

[drummingrobot]

They should put in pu**** (they won't though).
If Tool gets in it'll probably be Sober, The Pot, Vicarious, or Stinkfist.

[take_me2_your_leader]

Rosetta Stoned or Lateralus (The Song) should be on there....but the song to most likely make the game The Pot..

[IbanezBassist_v2]

disgustipated(justkiddin)

Kidd not. This is necessary!

[IbanezBassist_v2]

You can see Tool's website here (http://www.toolband.com/index_frames.html). I highly recommend visiting and giving their music a listen.

[TheTogfather]

Rosetta Stoned or Lateralus (The Song) should be on there....but the song to most likely make the game The Pot..

I'd be fine w/ the Pot...that'd be quite fun, with some AWESOME drums. Vocals would be good too.

And seriously...who the hell is voting 'no' on this so much? I swear, if they use this thread to determine that not enough people would be excited about Tool in-game, I am going to be hunting some people down. Like dogs. Ya know, dog hunting...

[IbanezBassist_v2]

Ya know, dog hunting...

Righty-O! Jolly good chap! I've been a time or two.:D

Besides, more than double is still saying yes...

[TheTogfather]

Besides, more than double is still saying yes...

Yes, that's true. I just wish those that were voting no would then post here and defend their belief.

So I could then scream at them about how wrong they are and threaten to throw things...:cool:

But seriously, I would actually love to hear/read a concise, coherent argument as to why someone believes they should NOT be in the game. I honestly cannot wrap my head around it.

[IbanezBassist_v2]

I agree whole heartedly.

[MetalChickenDragon]

Tool needs to be in this game but they wont be. Ever.

[TheTogfather]

Tool needs to be in this game but they wont be. Ever.

Words can hurt ya know! :(

[idiotec]

Tool needs to be in this game but they wont be. Ever.

http://readhead.files.wordpress.com/2006/10/downer.jpg

[Monsterpoptart]

Id love to see Eulogy or Aenima

[IbanezBassist_v2]

It could happen. They (or at least their drummer) was an avid fan of the GH series. I'm sure this will only lure more bands now. With the addtion to lyrics and drums!

[Raider87]

Ya Tool is a must, I hope they make it in

[Nocturnal]

Just put up all four of their albums as DLC please. Still think Lateralus should be in the main game. Though I have a soft spot for The Grudge simply cause I want to sing along to that one "Give away the stone, let the waters kiss and transmutate these little grudges into gold."

[TheTogfather]

Just put up all four of their albums as DLC please. Still think Lateralus should be in the main game.

Yes and Yes. The more I think about it, Lateralus would be a great fit for the Rock Band. And seriously, if they did some massive DLC deal with Tool, someone would have to sedate me. I would have to go on some sort of medication. Not even joking, at all...

[IbanezBassist_v2]

Word bro! Pass some over here while you're at it! :cool:

I've been waiting for Tool since it was rumored in GHII! Bring on the TOOL!

[ChuckBTY]

I can't agree more w/ the previous posters. If there is one band I would love to see in this game it's Tool. All there albums would be fantastic, but I think my favorite is Anema.

Stinkfist, H, Anema, 46 and 2, Hooker w/ a Penis and of course, added to the RockBand Epic Song Hall of Fame*, my personal fave.......3rd Eye.

[IbanezBassist_v2]

Third Eye. Oh yeah. Damn man, anything would be good! Come on Harmonix, bring Tool to daddy!

[TheTogfather]

I can sense the Toolphiles getting restless...better sign them up soon HMX, before we start organizing things!

[karlkaza]

This is genious. The difficulty of singing will be intense....maynard is a mad man. All the parts will be amazing this is a band where the bass player and drummer will feel alive. Not that the guitarist wont be having a blast...and as I said about singing. Great Idea I hope it pulls through! I agree! all the way

[idiotec]

And yet we continue to get "No" votes. People's poor taste saddens me. :(

[IbanezBassist_v2]

The thing is, most of the no votes are from people who have probably never even heard Tool. My god people! If anyone takes one listen, just one, then they are instantly converted. In between Adam's sick ass riffs, Maynard's vocals, Justin's bomb ass chops, and Danny's gut busting drum skills, it has it all! All we can hope for is that the boys at Harmonix have some liking to Tool and that they will allow the rights.

Like I said before, Tool was rumored to be in GHII. Maybe we will get lucky and they will show up in RB!

[GrayInvisible]

I wouldn't mind them in as long as the stuff I like gets in. Who knows, maybe I'd like them if they were in the game.

[IbanezBassist_v2]

If its Tool, its good. No worries.

[BarryC]

The thing is, most of the no votes are from people who have probably never even heard Tool. My god people! If anyone takes one listen, just one, then they are instantly converted. In between Adam's sick ass riffs, Maynard's vocals, Justin's bomb ass chops, and Danny's gut busting drum skills, it has it all! All we can hope for is that the boys at Harmonix have some liking to Tool and that they will allow the rights.

Like I said before, Tool was rumored to be in GHII. Maybe we will get lucky and they will show up in RB!

Tool isn't Rock and should not be in Rock Band :) (in my opinion). Many people that voted No may perhaps just not like their sound or what they represent.

[IbanezBassist_v2]

And "IYO" what does Tool represent?

[Phrank-E]

I voted no. just be contrarian and that I don't listen to them. Too pretentious to suit my tastes. Like Pink Floyd or Queensryche. I won't deny the talent in the bands, as they surely are the cream of the crop in the prog/rock/metal area.. But I like my music to be fun. I'll take fun as hell over moody and meaningful any day. But Tool in Rock Band probably wouldn't kill me. Sorry IB.

[BarryC]

And "IYO" what does Tool represent?

Pseudo prog artsy homoerotic music

[IbanezBassist_v2]

I voted no. just be contrarian and that I don't listen to them. Too pretentious to suit my tastes. Like Pink Floyd or Queensryche. I won't deny the talent in the bands, as they surely are the cream of the crop in the prog/rock/metal area.. But I like my music to be fun. I'll take fun as hell over moody and meaningful any day. But Tool in Rock Band probably wouldn't kill me. Sorry IB.

And you know what, thats fine. Your explanation is more than satisfactory, but most people just don't like certain bands for no known reason. Just that they don't. :)

[IbanezBassist_v2]

Pseudo prog artsy homoerotic music

You say artsy like its a bad thing.:)

[BarryC]

You say artsy like its a bad thing.:)

Artsy is fine as long as it sounds good :) And there are few Tool songs that do sound good (to me).

[ArmySoldier13]

Any tool song would be great. Parabol/Parabola (really its one song CMON) is the one I want the most.

[karlkaza]

sure, i don't know them but ok

[progROCKER]

Tool has been my favorite band for the past year now.


Even if alot of their stuff wouldnt fit, I still think lateralus would be the perfect freaking song for RB. Prog rock gives you such a rush when you get to the climax of each song and playing, drumming, singing to it would give everyone the greatest feeling in the world.

[TheTogfather]

Even if alot of their stuff wouldnt fit, I still think lateralus would be the perfect freaking song for RB. Prog rock gives you such a rush when you get to the climax of each song and playing, drumming, singing to it would give everyone the greatest feeling in the world.

I think a lot more stuff would fit nicely than people are giving them credit for. But I completely agree with the rest of what you're saying. Lateralus would be the ultimate Rock Band song, and nearly every Tool song has that climax, that moment when the whole song just clicks and it's just so freaking awesome. This is why i will feel so very disappointed if they don't make it into the game. I will feel robbed of the chance to experience this climax...

And kudos to BarryC and Phrank-E for finally giving us some 'no' voters willing to explain themselves.

Barry...it sounds more like your argument boils down to "i don't like them, so don't want them in"...which is just mean :D But seriously, I absolutely HATE Aerosmith, but had no problem with them making it into GH2, and honestly their songs was kinda fun. As for the 'they aren't rock' argument, I don't get that at all. "Rock" covers a lot of bases. Are you claiming that no metal or alternative should be included either? Only songs that can only be classified as "Rock"? Cause that's gonna take away a whole lot of stuff...

Phrank...that's just the kind of cohesive, sensible argument I was looking for. I do have to admit that Tool doesn't do much, or any, in the way of fun-happy music. But I don't see why that's a bad thing...Rock & Roll isn't all about just fun-time partying and such...for example, We Won't Get Fooled Again...take a listen to that one. Sure, from a distance it doesn't sound like anything over-dramatic and just a good, solid song...but it's actually got quite a powerful meaning to it. And it's been hailed as one of the best songs announced so far. IMO - songs can be fun to play/sing AND have meaning behind them...

[IbanezBassist_v2]

Heh. Do not all songs have some sort of meaning or interpretation to them.....

[idiotec]

Tool isn't Rock and should not be in Rock Band :) (in my opinion). Many people that voted No may perhaps just not like their sound or what they represent.

http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/5954/learntoswim2la2.jpg

[TheTogfather]

http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/5954/learntoswim2la2.jpg

That is fantastic!

[IbanezBassist_v2]

Indeed! Must.....keep.... thread....alive! Anyone lucky enough to see them live?

[idiotec]

Indeed! Must.....keep.... thread....alive! Anyone lucky enough to see them live?
I have seen them live a few times. They put on a great live show :)

[TheTogfather]

Indeed! Must.....keep.... thread....alive! Anyone lucky enough to see them live?

5 times so far...

Once in 98 as part of Ozzfest, touring for Aenima.

Once in 01 and again in 02, touring for Lateralus.

And twice this year, touring for 10,000 Days.

Every show was amazing. I think the one I enjoyed most was probably back in 98 for it being my first time seeing them, really the moment when I became a die-hard fan, plus that whole day was just cool. Probably the best pure show that I've seen was just this year in my home-town of St. Louis, they were just on fire that night, just an awesome show. The 10,000 Days stuff plays really well in person.

That brings up another story...before the St. Louis show I went to a bar that one of the local radio stations was having a pre-concert thing at. I entered the drawing for some Tool related stuff (tickets, full discography, and a stainless steel, double basin kitchen sink signed by the band). And I won the sink. I had several offers from people that night for it, but I kept it, plan on one day perhaps installing it in a bar (soon as I get a basement big enough for one), under some plexiglass for viewing only of course.

Yah, kind of a weird item to have, but it's pretty cool, each band member signed it (Danny signed twice, once in each basin for some reason) and Maynards signature actually has, in silver sharpie, a little 10,000 days icon w/ '07 in it, and his thumb print. I'm hoping it's the only kitchen sink they've ever signed...

[idiotec]

A kitchen sink, that is bizarre! :eek:

That has to be a pretty unique item. ;)

[TheTogfather]

Any idea what something like this might be worth? I've tried doing some internet searches but haven't really found anything comparable...not that I'd sell it, just curious really...

(and no, this isn't a shameless bump at all...;))

[IbanezBassist_v2]

my home-town of St. Louis, they were just on fire that night, just an awesome show. The 10,000 Days stuff plays really well in person.

St. Louis eh? I used to live in a small town about an hour away (Desoto). Now I live about four hours away. I sure do miss that place!

[Eman311]

Yes. I love Tool

[ChuckBTY]

I voted no. just be contrarian and that I don't listen to them. Too pretentious to suit my tastes. Like Pink Floyd or Queensryche. I won't deny the talent in the bands, as they surely are the cream of the crop in the prog/rock/metal area.. But I like my music to be fun. I'll take fun as hell over moody and meaningful any day. But Tool in Rock Band probably wouldn't kill me. Sorry IB.

Wow, you just named off the 3 bands from each era (Classic, 80's and modern) That I'd like to see in Rock Band the most:

Pink Floyd: Wish You Were Here
Queensryche: Operation: Mindcrime
Tool: Anema

Now don't get me wrong, I like my music to be fun too (just picked up GH: Encore who's slogan could be "GH: 80's: 300% more fun, 1/2 the pretentiousness) but still, to say you don't want those bands in the game? I mean, I'm not a huge fan of what passes for current rock music (My Chemical Romance, The Gorillaz, Queens of the Stone Age ect.) but I would never say I don't want them in the game. IMHO everyone should have the opportunity to play their favorite music.

[IbanezBassist_v2]

Did I mention that Tool needs, neigh, must be in RB?

[newwaytodie]

Not everything has to be happy clappy, sing and dance crap to be fun. Quite the contraty I think, I don't want to see Hanson in Rock Band any time soon.

[IbanezBassist_v2]

Not everything has to be happy clappy, sing and dance crap to be fun. Quite the contraty I think, I don't want to see Hanson in Rock Band any time soon.

So is this a yea or nay?

[TheTogfather]

sounds like a yes vote to me...but where the hell are all these 'nos' coming from??? I'm starting to think HMX is messing w/ me!

[IbanezBassist_v2]

Yes is still at a respectable 57% though.

[TheTogfather]

Yes is still at a respectable 57% though.

I accept nothing less than 96% yes!

[DarkSide]

Yes!!! Tool would be amazing.

Some possible songs that I think would be great for every aspect of RockBand are:
The Pot
Parabola
Jambi
Forty Six & 2
Lateralus
Ænema
Vicarious
Pu****

[IbanezBassist_v2]

I accept nothing less than 96% yes!

I know, its blasphemous. But the Angel Of Lord will harvest the souls of those who don't see the light.

[superman001]

I'll seriously start crying the day they announce Lateralus!!

That is so friggin' awesome!! --> Tool (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MH-g9M_Mid8)

Nay-sayers be gone!

[TheTogfather]

I'll seriously start crying the day they announce Lateralus!!

That is so friggin' awesome!! --> Tool (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MH-g9M_Mid8)

Nay-sayers be gone!

That was Effing Awesome! You are SO welcome here.

[Chris103190]

oh please god.
please harmonix.
please include Tool.
Saw these guys in Birmingham in May, and it was the greatest experience ever. And personally the only thing i think can come close to that live experience would be rock band(that and screaming tool, in my 4runner down the road hah)

Anyways, I would most like to see Pu****(favorite) but I don't see it making it...As everyone else has stated the most likely to be included would probably be The Pot..But I love thjat song too so whatever ..oh heck i love all tool ;)

[vdawgbirdman]

harmonix must include tool it just screams rock band. the crazy drums unique vocal some descent guitar and good bass. Exspecially for songs like vicarious or aenima.

[TheTogfather]

Saw these guys in Birmingham in May, and it was the greatest experience ever....

...As everyone else has stated the most likely to be included would probably be The Pot..But I love thjat song too so whatever

Yah, I got to see them twice on this last tour, so awesome.

And, have you ever seen the video for The Pot? Go look it up on youtube...I don't have the link handy but shouldn't be hard to find. It's pretty sweet and messed up...

[IbanezBassist_v2]

The people have spoken, hear their words!

[TheTogfather]

Ooh, approaching 60% yes...that's the way folks!

[idiotec]

30 Helens Agree: You must include Tool in Rock Band!

http://www.geocities.co.jp/Hollywood-Kouen/5264/30helens.jpg

[MrGrieves]

Who the hell is voting 'No'

Tool would be fun to play on Rockband specially on bass.

By the way I saw Tool on tour last year and beside The Mars Volta it has to be the best live band I've seen ever and I have seen a lot.

[idiotec]

Keeping the dream alive!

http://tn3-1.deviantart.com/fs10/300W/i/2006/122/d/a/This_body_holding_me_by_tool_band.jpg

[Eman311]

I'll say it again. Tool is this ****.

[Monsterpoptart]

I just started listening to them, and i love them. Any of their songs would be perfect. Does anybody know if they are touring next year?

[no_direction_home]

i want stinkfist put in rock band

[tex_chodean]

Yah, despite this being in the wrong topic, I do heartily agree, in fact I started my own post over in the song request forum, " A desperate plea for Tool", where I list all of their songs that I think are Rock Band worthy. There's plenty there...they are quite simply in the upper echelon of rock and roll history and Rock Band just wouldn't feel complete without them.

Umm, and who the hell is voting 'no' here??? I will find you!
i said no. tool sucks. why would they put such a amateur band in the game.

[johnyringo04]

tool must be on this game for the simple reason that they have the best vocals of any band ever!!! deftones comes second on vocals.

[TheTogfather]

i said no. tool sucks. why would they put such a amateur band in the game.

I REALLY hope this was a joke. Amateur?!?! Are you sure you know what that word means? Cause it's about the LAST word I could ever see applied to Tool. Each of them are truly professional musicians, and Danny Carey, the drummer, is almost unanimously considered one of the best five drummers on the planet. When performing live they sound almost identical to their studio recordings, with plenty of bonus add-ons that they throw in for the fan's enjoyment. They certainly don't just hoof it from town to town, bang out a rough set, then move on. They put at TON of work into each and every show and it's evident from the moment they step on stage. I would hardly refer to that at 'Amatuer'.

Now, if you would like to simply say you, personally, don't like them...then that would be fine. But to continue using a term like that is cause for full-on internets battle...

[idiotec]

Well, he is either joking or mentally ******ed. Either way:

http://116.photobucket.com/albums/b36/Advent_Nebula/fail.gif

[tex_chodean]

I REALLY hope this was a joke. Amateur?!?! Are you sure you know what that word means? Cause it's about the LAST word I could ever see applied to Tool. Each of them are truly professional musicians, and Danny Carey, the drummer, is almost unanimously considered one of the best five drummers on the planet. When performing live they sound almost identical to their studio recordings, with plenty of bonus add-ons that they throw in for the fan's enjoyment. They certainly don't just hoof it from town to town, bang out a rough set, then move on. They put at TON of work into each and every show and it's evident from the moment they step on stage. I would hardly refer to that at 'Amatuer'.

Now, if you would like to simply say you, personally, don't like them...then that would be fine. But to continue using a term like that is cause for full-on internets battle...
then lets have one because tool sucks. they're music sounds like crap.

[battle_axe_of_doom]

yeah well the fact that you like ac/dc is enough to make me disregard your opinion. also the fact that you think the song comortably numb is actually called "uncomfortably numb" would also lead me to believe you to be musically idiotic ;)

also, i haven't read these past 11 pages but the only thing i'm gonna say about tool is that they're too pretentious to allow their songs to be in a video game

[TGSeraph]

Tool would be epic! I doubt they'd give the license for their song to be in a videogame, though... but then, they did lend Sweat for the Escape From LA soundtrack. So there's hope for Rock Band.

[TheTogfather]

then lets have one because tool sucks. they're music sounds like crap.

The issue is not that you think their music sounds like crap. I'm obviously not going to be able to make you perceive their music as non-crap regardless of how long I sit here and proclaim their greatness to the world.

The issue is your use of the word 'Amateur'. Please, explain to me how a band with four full-sized, very successful albums spanning fifteen or so years is considered 'amateur'.

How is it that a band that is currently finishing up a HIGHLY successful, world-spanning tour is considered 'amateur'?

I'd love to hear how a group of people that have been financially successful enough by just MAKING MUSIC that they are able to choose to release new albums at five year intervals, filling that time with many side-projects several of which include participating in other various music related activities can be entirely too 'amateur' to appear in a video game.

I'd also be thrilled to find out how a group of 'amateurs' can sell nearly 10 million albums in the Unitied States.

So please, explain their 'amateur' status to me. I'd love to hear it.

[TheTogfather]

also, i haven't read these past 11 pages but the only thing i'm gonna say about tool is that they're too pretentious to allow their songs to be in a video game

It was mentioned by some HMX person after or close to the release of GH2 that Tool was very nearly included in that game, but since they were on Tour they didn't get back to HMX in time to make it. All indications are that they wanted to have a song on there...and one of their newsletters talked about how they played GH1 while they were in the studio working on their most recent album...

[ZookSuit16]

how about She Sells Sanctuary by The Cult, screw Tool. they are extremely good and i used to love them but we need to get some legends in there. who thinks that She Sells Sanctuary would rule in this game

[idiotec]

how about She Sells Sanctuary by The Cult, screw Tool. they are extremely good and i used to love them but we need to get some legends in there. who thinks that She Sells Sanctuary would rule in this game
It would rule in a different thread. This thread is about TOOL!

[TheTogfather]

It would rule in a different thread. This thread is about TOOL!


HA. Great reply...

[battle_axe_of_doom]

It was mentioned by some HMX person after or close to the release of GH2 that Tool was very nearly included in that game, but since they were on Tour they didn't get back to HMX in time to make it. All indications are that they wanted to have a song on there...and one of their newsletters talked about how they played GH1 while they were in the studio working on their most recent album...

well then thats great news :D

don't get me wrong i'm a tool fan, but even you have to admit they gotta be the most pretentious band since the good ol days of prog during the 60s and 70s. also i do believe they're still touring and will continue so until september so i doubt any song of theirs will be in gh3 or rock band

[TheTogfather]

well then thats great news :D

don't get me wrong i'm a tool fan, but even you have to admit they gotta be the most pretentious band since the good ol days of prog during the 60s and 70s. also i do believe they're still touring and will continue so until september so i doubt any song of theirs will be in gh3 or rock band

Well, I'm hoping they learned their lesson and are able to multi-task enough to say, "yah sure, we'll have someone get the master recordings sent out to you." I mean, they shouldn't have to go re-record anything I'd hope.

As for the pretentiousness...I just stepped into a nice large discussion on the Penny Arcade forums about this...the band themselves might be a bit pretentious, but I definatley don't agree if you're saying it applies to the music, cause music itself simply CAN'T be pretentious. Artists can, art cannot. It is what it is, and you either like it or don't (which you do, so you're cool :D ).

But me, personally...I tend to think they're more disgruntled and jaded...whether that's caused by an underlying pretention or maybe that gives off an air of pretention...I do kinda see what you mean at least. I still love 'em, love their music, follow them religiously...but given the chance I probably wouldn't hang out with them (which I might have had once, but that's a whole other story)...I don't think I'd like what I'd see so much.

Cept for Danny...that man simply rocks and none of the above applies to him. Or Justin too probably. Actually, it might all lie on Maynard now that I think about it...Adam is fairly harmless, though does an aweful lot of art production kinda stuff that certainly one could take to imply he follows suit w/ MJK...

hmm, I ranted too long, again, about Tool...someone just smack me next time...

[battle_axe_of_doom]

yeah just saying the band themselves/maynard are very pretentious. i mean i luv maynard, one of my favorite vocalists in one of my favorite bands, but the lyrics are just so pretentious its somewhat laughable at times (not as in **** lyrics, but as in you know aenema for example). as for danny being a cool person idk man i saw them in concert not too long ago in corpus christi, tx (almost caught the drum stick too), and we waited outside the arena for the band to come out and maybe meet up with the fans but the security guards told me that all of them are pretty much *******s. danny apparently told them to **** off but in a nicer way :D

also apparently maynard is only a dick with his fans when he's with tool, the guards told us when he went to that stadium with a perfect circle he met up with every fan, but not when he's with tool :(

but yeah tool rule and if they can find a way to censor aenema i would love to play that song on rock band :D

[IbanezBassist_v2]

I can't believe some of the **** I'm reading in this thread. "Amateurs!?" Ha! I'm not even going to get into a discussion on how ignorant that statement is. Maybe when I have time I will come back to this thread and explain why I recommend you eat a bullet.

[TheTogfather]

Don't worry Ibanez, he hasn't shown back up since I responded in-depth. I think I took care of 'em.

And Battle_Axe, man...that's somewhat disappointing about Danny. I still think he's pretty cool, maybe it's just one of those things where their huge popularity basically makes them have to be dicks to fans or they can't ever get out of there. I could see them just getting mobbed if they took the time to stop and sign stuff. When I saw them in St. Louis, Danny stayed on the stage thanking the whole stadium WAY after the rest of the band left. Damn near thought he was gonna hop back on his drums and play a solo for us or something.

I think a lot (or all) of the band overall perception comes from Maynard. The dude owns a vineyard out in Arizona and drinks all this mega-expensive wine and such, which just screams pretentious (although I gotta admit, love me some good Pinot). Hell, maybe I'm just a pretentious ******* too and that's why Tool clicks with me. I do enjoy gourmet coffee, fine wine, relaxing music, and a nice, big comfortable chair. Yup, that settles it, whenever I hear this argument about Tool again I'll just say, "Yup, they sure are pretentious jerks. And so am I, so go away!".

[idiotec]

"Yup, they sure are pretentious jerks. And so am I, so go away!".
I like it! :D

[ScreamingSlave]

TOOL so needs to be in this game.

[IbanezBassist_v2]

TOOL so needs to be in this game.

Yes, we agree with you.

[TheTogfather]

Just wanted to point out that this is the sixth most viewed thread in this part of the forums, and by FAR the most viewed thread that's about one single band. If that isn't proof right there HMX, Tool brings crowds! sign 'em....NOW!

[Saltines]

I don't really care for tool, but they are decent.

I could go for something decent.

[Eman311]

If only 311 could get a topic this big :)

[IbanezBassist_v2]

They could if they were as big as Tool. But they are not. Sorry E! :(

[The_Dude]

Speaking of Tool that reminds me of a little song called Passenger byt the Deftones featuring Maynard on vocals. Amazing bass, singing, drums, and rockin' guitars. And props to Tool by themselves as well.

[_Five_]

I really hope this is going to happen!
I voted (as everybody should ;-)), now I'll have to wait and hope. I'm happy there are so many others wanting them in as well!

[DokkenIsntRockin]

I'd like Tool if it werent for that pretentious cocksmoker Maynard. I hate that dude, hes quasi smart and a ****ty vocalist.

[idiotec]

and a ****ty vocalist.
Are you tone deaf?

[DikRodnum]

One of the greatest bands ever...(and My favorite...)

Im going to go with...
Sweat
Cold and Ugly
(mmaaayyyybbeee) Crawl Away
Forty-Six & 2
Anemia (too many curse words tho')
Parabola(with a shortened Parabol in-front)
The Grudge
Lateralus
Vicarious
(maybe) Jambi
or The Pot

My personal belief, is for GH it will be an original 'Bonus' song and RB will get a remake of "Cold and Ugly" ( Justin on Bass as opposed to Paul)

but realistically Im thinking "Vicarious" for both...

[DokkenIsntRockin]

Are you tone deaf?

no, my name isnt King Diamond.

as for tone, when did I say anything about tone? oh, right. I just said that I think he sucks at singing, so yeah...thanks for the nonsense?

[TheTogfather]

Woo! We're over 60% here people! Awesome!

Umm, and Dokken...hating a band and their music just because you hate one of the members is pretty ridiculous if you ask me. I'm sure there are plenty of *******s in the music industry, it'd probably limit what you could listen to quite a bit if you forced yourself to hate all band and music made by a jerk...but hey, that's just me.

Although, claiming he's a ****ty singer is a pretty weak agrument. Don't know a whole lot of people that would support that one...

[psyborg]

Tool? Yes definatly. I wouldn't allow any of my friends to sing the vocal part, Maynard's recording only. lol

[TheTogfather]

Tool? Yes definatly. I wouldn't allow any of my friends to sing the vocal part, Maynard's recording only. lol

You sound nearly as crazy as me! Cheers!

I've already decided that if they make it in, whenever I play guitar on any of their songs I will not allow myself to use the replica strat, but instead will use the GH3 Les Paul replica, which hopefully by then I've either modded to mirror Adam's guitar exactly, or possibly have a Tool logo plastered on it...

[idiotec]

I've already decided that if they make it in, whenever I play guitar on any of their songs I will not allow myself to use the replica strat, but instead will use the GH3 Les Paul replica, which hopefully by then I've either modded to mirror Adam's guitar exactly, or possibly have a Tool logo plastered on it...
That's hardcore :D

[IbanezBassist_v2]

no, my name isn't King Diamond.

as for tone, when did I say anything about tone? oh, right. I just said that I think he sucks at singing, so yeah...thanks for the nonsense?

Jesus Christ! Any credibility you had just went down the poop chute. Its apparent to me that you obviously haven't even listened to any Tool. But to even go as far as saying MJK can't sing is preposterous. Dude has one of the most unique voices out there.

Your opinion has been duly noted and dismissed.

[DarkSide]

Maynard's vocals and lyrics are amazing. They're a major part of why Tool is my favorite band.

[keezyfersheezy]

If Tool isn't included, at least make them available to download later.

[progROCKER]

I dont care if they are included as long as there is a download later.

Maynard... Quazi SMART????>???
****TY Singer??????


the man is the best lyricist of all time bar none.

listen to the grudge and at the last minute or so tell me he is not a talented singer.

I don't know how you can call Maynard pretentious. If you really look at him, all his interviews, what he really stands for, you have to realize that he really cares about people and is not cocky. Although I see how you could see the opposite from listening to Aenema. You have to realize he speaks in metaphor's to see the real him.

[IbanezBassist_v2]

Although I see how you could see the opposite from listening to Aenema. You have to realize he speaks in metaphor's to see the real him.

Oh man! Just listen to the lyrics in Aenema. Its not about coming across as an ******* or anything of the sorts. Its a simple song of how it (the world) all needs to be "flushed" away and "cleansed" of its ignorance. Its a story of how regardless of race, religion, or ideals that it is all bull****!

Tell me this message is pretentious and I scoff at your idiocy.

I still can't fathom how any one person can not even appreciate Tool's music. They are one of the most talented bands in this era. BTW, Thanks prog for for that post so I could go on this rant.

[TheTogfather]

A lot of it comes from how he acts in concert...he doesn't chat it up with the crowd and all that, which puts a lot of people off. He stands in the back, next to the drums, instead of right out front like the majority of bands do. His attitude with Tool is just that he's part of the band, just another instrument, not the frontman. A lot of people don't understand that and assume it's cause he thinks he's better than all the fans and everyone else. It's just not true nad if you've seen him with A Perfect Circle you can see he behaves almost exactly the opposite. It's just the approach he takes with Tool and it makes perfect sense. If you really listen to their music, it is like he's just another instrument. They all come together so perfectly to make excellent, beautiful music.

[superman001]

Excellent observation Togfather, never thought of it that way.
Unfortunately I haven't had the opportunity to see 'em live yet :(
(Well, actually I have, but I chose 3 weeks in Thailand instead, toughest decission ever!!)

How 'bout a concert in Denmark soon... pretty please?

[TheTogfather]

Excellent observation Togfather, never thought of it that way.
Unfortunately I haven't had the opportunity to see 'em live yet :(
(Well, actually I have, but I chose 3 weeks in Thailand instead, toughest decission ever!!)

How 'bout a concert in Denmark soon... pretty please?

Well, actually, they just recently finished the US leg of their tour and headed over to Europe for a bunch of festivals. Here's the upcoming shows over there taken from their official website:

2007 07 Sep Istanbul, TURKEY - Kurucesme Amphitheater
2007 06 Sep Athens, GREECE - Terra Vibe
2007 05 Sep Belgrade, SERBIA - Pionir Hall
2007 04 Sep Zagreb, CROATIA - Salata
2007 02 Sep Bologna, ITALY - Independent Days Festival - Arena Parco Nord
2007 31 Aug Vitoria-Gasteiz, SPAIN - Azkena Festival
2007 28 Aug Frankfurt, GERMANY - Jahrhunderthalle
2007 26 Aug Ludinghausen, GERMANY - Area 4 Festival
2007 25 Aug Paris, FRANCE - Rock En Seine Festival
2007 23 Aug Manchester, ENGLAND - The Apollo
2007 22 Aug London, ENGLAND - Brixton Academy
2007 21 Aug London, ENGLAND - Brixton Academy
2007 19 Aug HOLLAND - Lowlands Festival
2007 18 Aug BELGIUM - Pukkelpop Festival
2007 16 Aug SWITZERLAND - Gampel Festival
2007 15 Aug Salzburg, AUSTRIA - Frequency Festival
2007 13 Aug Budapest, HUNGARY - Sziget Festival
2007 12 Aug Katowice, POLAND - Spodek - Metal Hammer Festival
2007 11 Aug near Hannover, GERMANY - M/era Luna Festival


Dunno if any of those would work for you...

[IbanezBassist_v2]

Woo Hoo! 60.75%

[IbanezBassist_v2]

Here is a list of the fools who voted no. I'm suprised by some of them.....

Xyfa-, acem854, ajretz, Akaymay, army258, Bakkster_Man, BarryC, BobLoblaw, buccinator, Captastic, CarusoBattle, Consolcwby, CraiZE, Creeping-Death, CrissDraiven, dachande, diesel, Electric_Zen, Elnino, Emo_Reaper, famagusta, fofofosho, Frankenlife, french_fries101, FunkaTrunk, GrayInvisible, HeadShaft713, HollywoodBound, hot4mizuho, iatmaster01, IOIHUMMERIOI, jokupelle, karlkaza, Knockout_King, laughinglikecrazy, LoneSteele, longhair, lorddavid, Magnet, marras, mcjustin52, metalupyourass, mohkilla, Necrotide, Phrank-E, quadrophenickid, Quastor, Rookieste, Schultzy, Shadoe, Shadow6868, SirAnonymous, Sonofmogh, SpeedMetal09, spraynwipe, StartSomething, StevoM, tex_chodean, tharshmetalUK, TheRocker, this-username-sucks, tmanrocks, TNT1129, travmeatwad, TylerSalak, utterarmy, viru30, wallllawalla, whofan, winternet, x3ar23, zag000, zeefeet, ZookSuit16

[newwaytodie]

Tool is awesome. I can't comprehend the no vote on this one.

Grats on publicizing their stupidity though Ibanez.

[IbanezBassist_v2]

Tool is awesome. I can't comprehend the no vote on this one.

Grats on publicizing their stupidity though Ibanez.

It needed to be done. So later on when Tool is in RB and they're like "Wow that Tool song is the **** and so fun to play. We can continue the flamefest.

[TheTogfather]

Here is a list of the fools who voted no. I'm suprised by some of them.....

Xyfa-, acem854, ajretz, Akaymay, army258, Bakkster_Man, BarryC, BobLoblaw, buccinator, Captastic, CarusoBattle, Consolcwby, CraiZE, Creeping-Death, CrissDraiven, dachande, diesel, Electric_Zen, Elnino, Emo_Reaper, famagusta, fofofosho, Frankenlife, french_fries101, FunkaTrunk, GrayInvisible, HeadShaft713, HollywoodBound, hot4mizuho, iatmaster01, IOIHUMMERIOI, jokupelle, karlkaza, Knockout_King, laughinglikecrazy, LoneSteele, longhair, lorddavid, Magnet, marras, mcjustin52, metalupyourass, mohkilla, Necrotide, Phrank-E, quadrophenickid, Quastor, Rookieste, Schultzy, Shadoe, Shadow6868, SirAnonymous, Sonofmogh, SpeedMetal09, spraynwipe, StartSomething, StevoM, tex_chodean, tharshmetalUK, TheRocker, this-username-sucks, tmanrocks, TNT1129, travmeatwad, TylerSalak, utterarmy, viru30, wallllawalla, whofan, winternet, x3ar23, zag000, zeefeet, ZookSuit16

A...a HMX employee voted no?!?! I feel so....betrayed. :(

[IbanezBassist_v2]

A...a HMX employee voted no?!?! I feel so....betrayed. :(

Thats what I meant by being suprised. Its a sad deal, but hey. They probably like Made In Mexico. So I am not completely heart broken.

[TheTogfather]

Thats what I meant by being suprised. Its a sad deal, but hey. They probably like Made In Mexico. So I am not completely heart broken.

Heh, they might actually be IN Made in Mexico.

although I didn't mind their GH1 song so much...but the GH2 one was just...ouch...

[FunkaTrunk]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiV_ue-PbL4

The video is relaxing, but the music just isn't my thing. Can anyone give me a link to a really good song of theres?

[battle_axe_of_doom]

well idk then i frankly think thats one of their best songs though they have some better ones. since u have a dethklok member as your avy i'm assuming you'll want something heavy : ticks and leeches.

now if you dont' want something heavier just go for like stinkfist (probably their 3rd most famous song) or 46&2. 46&2 basically blew me away when i saw that song live

[IbanezBassist_v2]

Vicarious (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hii17sjSwfA)

Schism (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhjG47gtMCo)

Stinkfist (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07pLGIgyfjw)

Aenima (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCEeAn6_QJo)

Prison Sex (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5sIXUbMgF0)

Sober (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hglVqACd1C8)

The Pot (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2F_hGwD26g)

Hush (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EF_WKwbueG8)

Eulogy- Live (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEbbMDje964)

The Grudge - Live (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUKz-giPztA)

Offical Website (http://www.toolband.com/album/index.html) This link takes you directly to the audio samples.

[Raider87]

Personally I think Stinkfist should be in the game because I love that song but I'd be happy with any of their songs.... and they have the best damn videos

[IbanezBassist_v2]

Personally I think Stinkfist should be in the game because I love that song but I'd be happy with any of their songs.... and they have the best damn videos

No ****! Actually a majority of the videos were produced by Adam Jones (their guitar player) He does all the claymation and scuplting. He has issues.

[battle_axe_of_doom]

the extended stinkfist is much much better than the real stinkfist i can tell ya that much :D

[IbanezBassist_v2]

They also do a cover of No Quarter by Zeppelin. Way better IMO.....

[battle_axe_of_doom]

They also do a cover of No Quarter by Zeppelin. Way better IMO.....

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh :\

also i wanna hear their demon cleaner cover

[IbanezBassist_v2]

I said IMO....... Not yours. No need for the idiotic dribble.

[Raider87]

the extended stinkfist is much much better than the real stinkfist i can tell ya that much :D

I agree that version is way better... thats the one I was referring too actually

[battle_axe_of_doom]

I agree that version is way better... thats the one I was referring too actually

have you heard the other extended songs (lateralus, schism) while not as good as extended stinkfist still great songs. also just wondering did you listen to extended sf on youtube or did u actually see it live??

[Raider87]

have you heard the other extended songs (lateralus, schism) while not as good as extended stinkfist still great songs. also just wondering did you listen to extended sf on youtube or did u actually see it live??
I saw them live a few years ago but I haven't heard Schism extended

[Emo_Reaper]

Please dont be mad at me =/ Ive never heard them.lol

[battle_axe_of_doom]

Please dont be mad at me =/ Ive never heard them.lol

watch the videos that that other guy posted (sry can't remember who it was) IMMEDIATELY. i used to love these guys, not so much anymore but still a fantastic band

[Eman311]

They could if they were as big as Tool. But they are not. Sorry E! :(

damn you're the second person to shorten my name to "E" on this forum, just like in real life.

sadly, you're right :( tool is still pretty damn tight and should be included in this game

[idiotec]

Here is a list of the fools who voted no. I'm suprised by some of them.....

Xyfa-, acem854, ajretz, Akaymay, army258, Bakkster_Man, BarryC, BobLoblaw, buccinator, Captastic, CarusoBattle, Consolcwby, CraiZE, Creeping-Death, CrissDraiven, dachande, diesel, Electric_Zen, Elnino, Emo_Reaper, famagusta, fofofosho, Frankenlife, french_fries101, FunkaTrunk, GrayInvisible, HeadShaft713, HollywoodBound, hot4mizuho, iatmaster01, IOIHUMMERIOI, jokupelle, karlkaza, Knockout_King, laughinglikecrazy, LoneSteele, longhair, lorddavid, Magnet, marras, mcjustin52, metalupyourass, mohkilla, Necrotide, Phrank-E, quadrophenickid, Quastor, Rookieste, Schultzy, Shadoe, Shadow6868, SirAnonymous, Sonofmogh, SpeedMetal09, spraynwipe, StartSomething, StevoM, tex_chodean, tharshmetalUK, TheRocker, this-username-sucks, tmanrocks, TNT1129, travmeatwad, TylerSalak, utterarmy, viru30, wallllawalla, whofan, winternet, x3ar23, zag000, zeefeet, ZookSuit16

How the hell did you get that info?

I think we need to systematically removed them just like you would any kind of termite or roach......

[newwaytodie]

You just click on the number of people who voted no.

[_Five_]

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh :\

also i wanna hear their demon cleaner cover

You know, that cover was the first time I heard about Kyuss. :-)
(I went and bought a best of cd by Kyuss not much later)


And I so loved the old Tool videos long before I got into their music.

[TheTogfather]

I think we need to systematically removed them just like you would any kind of termite or roach......

You, sir, are my favorite person today.

[finsfan]

TOOL = Happiness!!! I would like to see TOOL in ROCK BAND as well!!!!

[TheTogfather]

Please dont be mad at me =/ Ive never heard them.lol

Now, see...here's the problem. You were on the 'voted no' list. Why on God's green earth would you go and vote 'no' for a band you've never heard of? I would NEVER do that. You know you have the option of not voting right? Or even better, look up a video and decide for yourself. But to vote 'no' without ever hearing anything from them? Don't do that!


Bad! That's a bad Emo_Reaper!

[IbanezBassist_v2]

So. True. Why? It sounds like to me someone has a bad case of the dumbass.

[FatWilma]

i voted yes, but i think they should bring it out as DLC. having a tool song on the setlist might be pushing it a lil bit.

[TheTogfather]

i voted yes, but i think they should bring it out as DLC. having a tool song on the setlist might be pushing it a lil bit.

Honestly that wouldn't bother me one bit. I don't really care how I gets my Tool, just as long as I gets it. But I think they'd be fine w/ a song like 46&2, maybe Stinkfist....it'd be accessible to everyone. The Pot might work too, it's recent and pretty popular. Lateralus is asking too much, no one knows that song but Tool Fans.

[JukeBoxHero]

I wouldn't mind if Tool was in Rock Band, but I don't really like any of their songs.

[Rainbow]

In defense of no votes, even those from people who haven't heard Tool:

Keep in mind here that the poll is not "Tool would be a good choice", or even "You really should put a Tool song in". A no vote merely means that including them is not an absolute imperative, which might be the case even for an aficionado of their music. It is necessary to have heard them to vote yes on the topic, but not to vote no, and a no vote might just represent someone who likes Tool but sees themselves still happy with a potential game of Rock Band that doesn't have them in it.

This is what you get for posting a yes/no poll on an extreme position. Frankly, 60% in favor is an amazing show of support.

Rainbow

[TheTogfather]

In defense of no votes, even those from people who haven't heard Tool:

Keep in mind here that the poll is not "Tool would be a good choice", or even "You really should put a Tool song in". A no vote merely means that including them is not an absolute imperative, which might be the case even for an aficionado of their music. It is necessary to have heard them to vote yes on the topic, but not to vote no, and a no vote might just represent someone who likes Tool but sees themselves still happy with a potential game of Rock Band that doesn't have them in it.

This is what you get for posting a yes/no poll on an extreme position. Frankly, 60% in favor is an amazing show of support.

Rainbow

Umm, what's up with this rational logic thing? When did that find a place on the internets?

:D

[newwaytodie]

Yeah but those are the kind of decisions the devs have to make. Black and White, theres no room for "they're good but..." crap.

And what better way to ensure those guys get the picture than having a poll from your most loyal fans?

[Drossvirex]

It's frightening how many people voted no.

I hope these people have at least heard more that what is on the radio, which isn't much because TOOL songs are 7-9 minutes long. The kind of music that you might no appreciate on the first listen. The flipside is when you do finally like a TOOL song, it's about when you start hating some repetitive emo crap that play on the radio.

So the point I'm making is a Tool song would be perfect...In my opinion!

[SavagePlanet]

I voted yes and wanted to bump this thread back up to the top. I posted a thread about Tool a little while ago, but accidentally put it in the wrong forum, so it was mostly forgotten. I'm a huge Tool fan (they're actually my favorite band of all time) and to have just one of their songs in this game would be orgasmic and unimaginably fun. As stated before, each member of the band provides such a differing complexity that no part would be boring to play. It would probably be one of the few songs in the game where the vocals are the most demanding, challenging part. No one, and I mean no one, can sing like MJK. This is also my reasoning that they please stay far, far away from trying to cover one of their songs. After hearing some of the poor vocal work from the covers in GH2, I shudder to think what the results would be in trying to emulate Maynard. If you can't get the master track, HMX, then just do them the dignity of being left out of the game entirely.

And I really don't get all of this pretentiousness nonsense. Tool are not pretentious in the slightest. First of all, that term is supposed to be used when talking about someone who doesn't deserve it. If anything, Tool certainly deserves to be a bit arrogant; they make masterworks of music. But I'm not saying they are arrogant. They just appear to me as four highly skilled, and very smart musicians who love to make moving, epic music. The way Tool somewhat dismisses their fans and shuns the spotlight is not because they think they're too good to be seen in person; it's because they know what's going on around them. They can see how most big bands become media/spotlight whores and then proceed to sell out. They're smart about their business and it's one reason they're still together 17 years later, and still highly relevant, when just about all of their original peer bands have fallen by the wayside. They're only goal is to give all of their attention to the music, and let the music stand on its own and do the talking for them. It's always been about the music to them, and it always will be. And the music has pushed them to the top, not their own personal image, which says an awful lot about the quality of the music, I'd say.

Alright, I'll stop ranting. Just wanted to throw my two cents in and say that if Tool makes it in, this will instantly become my game of the year, and I implore Harmonix to get one of their full albums for DLC, even if it's at a later time. That would be simply amazing.

BTW, I loved that "Learn to Swim" pic. That was fantastic.

[IbanezBassist_v2]

Couldn't Have Said It Any Better.

[TheTogfather]

Agreed. Well said SavagePlanet...

[army_of_me]

I trust HMX to pick the one song that will convert everybody!

[idiotec]

You, sir, are my favorite person today.
I thought you might like that one. :D

[progROCKER]

Yeah it is cool that they have stayed together, but I hate that **** about how all their peer bands died out.

nirvana-(lead singer died) of course they could not go on (ps nirvana sucks)
Alice in chains- (ditto) except aic owns and they are still around today
Soundgarden- Lead singer could not keep up with his own vocals
Rage against the machine- yeah they had band problems and broke up
Pearl jam- Still around

So death and ruptured vocal cords are the reasons for most of the other bands dieing out not bad chemistry.

[IbanezBassist_v2]

Well....Almost half of them did die.....

[MasterTick]

A Tool song could be the equivelent of Jordan on Expert.

[battle_axe_of_doom]

lmao not even close

[DikRodnum]

A Tool song could be the equivelent of Jordan on Expert.

lol, naw it wouldnt be that bad...it would be more so an exercise in Bassist finger endurance and off-tempo guitar playing. The Drummer on the other hand...?!...well good luck with all of that!:rolleyes:

[IbanezBassist_v2]

lol, naw it wouldnt be that bad...it would be more so an exercise in Bassist finger endurance and off-tempo guitar playing. The Drummer on the other hand...?!...well good luck with all of that!:rolleyes:

This is exactly right. The percussion does have the potential to be harder than Jordan on expert with Danny's skill!

[TheTogfather]

This is exactly right. The percussion does have the potential to be harder than Jordan on expert with Danny's skill!

Truth. And the vocals aren't going to be a walk-in-the-park either. Most of their stuff would be odd in the fact that the guitar part would probably have the easiest part. For me the fun will be playing all together as a band, as that's what every song is great about...every piece just comes together perfectly...

[IbanezBassist_v2]

Indeed! Its sent directly from the gods of rock!

[SavagePlanet]

Here's a cool video I just happened upon, for a song that would work really well in the game: Forty-Six & 2.

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I imagine the drum solo would be insane and the whole ending would be mind-numbingly fun when playing with a bunch of people.

[idiotec]

Here's a cool video I just happened upon, for a song that would work really well in the game: Forty-Six & 2.

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I imagine the drum solo would be insane and the whole ending would be mind-numbingly fun when playing with a bunch of people.
That rocked!!!! Well done! :D

[IbanezBassist_v2]

Eh....I didn't like it. Whoever applied the song, totally went beyond what the message really is suppose to relay. Thanks for the pysche lesson though. :rolleyes:

[SavagePlanet]

Well, that's the thing about most Tool songs: there really is no one defining message. They're all up for wildly varying interpretation...and that happened to be one person's interpretation of the song, which just happens to be a very literal one. I don't believe there are any "right" or "wrong" views on the meanings of their songs.

I just thought the video showed a pretty cool analytical approach to some of the terminology used in the lyrics, and its always nice to allow people to read accurate Tool lyrics while listening to their music; it's one of the things that made me the Tool fan I am today. MJK's lyrics are just brilliant.

[DarkSide]

Actually, everything in that vid was taken straight from the T.D.N. faq (http://toolshed.down.net/faq/faq.html) (scroll down to "G 36")

While not the "official" website of tool, I thinks it's pretty reliable.

What else could 46 & 2 mean?

EDIT: Oh, and would anyone else like to see some APC in RockBand? If they can't get Tool into the game, they still may be able to get Maynard. It obviously wouldn't be as good, but it's better than nothing.

[IbanezBassist_v2]

EDIT: Oh, and would anyone else like to see some APC in RockBand? If they can't get Tool into the game, they still may be able to get Maynard. It obviously wouldn't be as good, but it's better than nothing.

I could deal with that....

[spiral011235]

Actually, "The Outsider" or "3 Libra's" would be awesome songs by APC.

[IbanezBassist_v2]

Or Pet, or Hollow, or (insert just about any other APC song here)

[TheTogfather]

Yes, I'm hoping that we'll get some Tool AND APC...but first things first...Tool for Rock Band. I see we are over 60% again, excellent.

Oh, how glorious the day will be when they announce mega-DLC packs of Tool...maybe that'll be the big PAX announcement later this week? Man...I would have to change my pants...

[IbanezBassist_v2]

Man...I would have to change my pants...

I would too, that is if I was wearing any. :cool:

[TheTogfather]

Well, if the 40 lisenced songs thing is true, then we're down to 14 slots available for on-disc songs, after today's announcement. Still plenty of room for our boys here, but c'mon HMX...don't make a nearly 30 year-old cry...that's just not pretty. No one wants to see that.

[IbanezBassist_v2]

I do......

[_Five_]

I wouldn't mind APC either. :-) Judith for example, but it contains the f-word.

You guys made me listen to Lateralus again, it's so good. I think I have to give the whole cd collection a listen these days.

[idiotec]

HMX is just making us sweat ;)

[IbanezBassist_v2]

Yes...Sweat is a good song too. :cool:

[Drossvirex]

Well songs that would be fun to play, accessible, and don't have swear words?

I don't really know. But here's what I would like.

46&2
Parabola
Lateralus
H.
Vicarious
Jambi
The Pot
Rosetta Stoned

Probably anything Tool I would buy, but to me these would be good canidates.

[DarkSide]

The initial vocal portion of Roseta Stoned would be IMPOSSIBLE to sing.

[the_polite_force]

that and it would censored so much that even if it would be possible it would blow to sing along. GOD DAMN ___ THE BED

now that i think about it "god damn" would be censored too.

[idiotec]

Yeah, but if they could do it, it would be 11+ minutes of goodness :D

[TheTogfather]

Wow...couldn't even IMAGINE trying to sing that...freakin nuts..

[IbanezBassist_v2]

now that i think about it "god damn" would be censored too.

Don't know about that one. The New Black has God Damn in it. Observe....then go see for yourself.

Baby, you got me all wrong. And maybeI am not at all down and out. I'm high and I'm in. Don't you know who I am? I'm the jaded one with pop insensitivity. When I finish struggling, we can make our way to the dance floor and stand like strangers in an elevator stuck between stories. I always find myself in the middle of your stories. With the cameras as a witness I will suffer. Everything I do is wrong. But by God I do it right. We don't dance no no no. We got class. No we don't have any fun at all. It's the new style and we know it. We're not stunning, we're just stunned and we're lying for a living. Don't you know who I am? I'm the real thing with low-key sensibilities. I don't need what I've got half as much as everyone covets it. If loving me is wrong, then god damn you do it right. It turns us on to turn you down.

[Chris103190]

tool thread...you must live LIIIIIVE
No but seriously, include tool pretty please :)
(I would liek a perfect circle as well! :D)

[TheTogfather]

It's getting time for me to start planning my custom Tool design for my GH3 guitar (more sticker room and faceplate...plus it'll probably be played less, so shouldn't wear out as fast). Anyone know of a good place online to look for band decals and stickers?

[IbanezBassist_v2]

Forget that! Do a customized paint job!

[TheTogfather]

Forget that! Do a customized paint job!

I'd thought of that, cept for the one major flaw...I am not artistic and cannot draw worth crap. I have a very clear idea of what I want in my head, but I know I won't be able to replicate it myself, and I think I could get pretty close by piecing together certain decals and such. But...I do have a sister that's very good at the artsy stuff...maybe I can lay-out the design for her and she could get it done...hmmm...things to ponder.

[IbanezBassist_v2]

Since you aren't that good with the artistic side of things, take a pattern of your favorite logo, make a template for you to follow. Its not that hard to do.

[IbanezBassist_v2]

Plus I don't really like themed jobs.

[_Five_]

Since you aren't that good with the artistic side of things, take a pattern of your favorite logo, make a template for you to follow. Its not that hard to do.

That's a good idea, I'd do it like that too. Modding your guitar in their style would rock! There's so much great art, I especially love the eye circles:


http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h50/fivelein/Stuff/schism2cd.png


http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h50/fivelein/Stuff/tooljambicd.png


http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h50/fivelein/Stuff/toolgrudgecd.png


Just blow it up big enough in a graphics program, print it out, cut out or trace on some carton and you have a template. But getting help from your sister is probably a wise decision. ;-)

[IbanezBassist_v2]

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h50/fivelein/Stuff/toolgrudgecd.png


I'm more partial to this design. Nice colors

[TheTogfather]

yah, flaming eye is definately in my design, but I think I'm going with white lettering/pics on a black background. Putting the new 'TOOL' logo on the top left corner, then on lining the bottom of the body, a symbol for each album. Dunno what to do for Opiate (might have to leave it out) but would have the freaky ribs for Undertow, the Stretched TV screen for Aenema, the Eye for Lateralus, and the open box/triangle bit for 10,000 Days. Will of course leave room for more. ;)

[A_Giant_Bear]

I would love it if Harmonix put Tool on Rock Band..... Hopefully they will think it over and hopefully Tool would let them use a song.

[IbanezBassist_v2]

Welcome to the conversation....

[MetalChickenDragon]

Stinkfist would go well with the distortion that is on the Rock Band mic but I'd take any or all Tool songs!!!

[black_zepelin]

i just voted for tool i think jambi

[ConsumerWhore]

Here's another vote for Tool! For reals. I'll also take A Perfect Circle.

[thrdeye]

Well, I obviously voted yes.

I think 46+2 or Prison Sex would be great for Rock Band. Not my favorite Tool songs, but they would be fun to play, technical on the drums, and most of the vocals are within range of your normal man.

Jambi would also be okay, but maybe too long. Also would not rule out Schism, Stinkfist, or Sweat

[IbanezBassist_v2]

loot Ni Tup Lliw Uoy! Loot Ni Tup Lliw Uoy! Loot Ni Tup Lliw Uoy

[MasterTick]

Anyone playing bass should DEFINATELY vote yes.

[thrdeye]

Guy I went to high school with playing Jerk Off on drums

http://myspacetv.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=14883761

[SavagePlanet]

I think this is by far, my favorite Tool drum cover:

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It's not the same pattern Danny plays for the song, but it is BADASS nonetheless.

[BloodyFuton]

I will break my 360 and burn my rock band bundle if they dont put out a Tool albun for download!!!

[MasterTick]

I will break my 360 and burn my rock band bundle if they dont put out a Tool albun for download!!!
I wouldn't do that, but I will probably ***** and moan on this site. :)

[A_Perfect_TOOL]

Here's another vote for Tool! For reals. I'll also take A Perfect Circle.

quoted for truth!

Tool is perfect for Rock Band, the basslines are as intense if not more intense than the guitar parts, the drums are always outta control and the vocals would be challenging and fun as hell!

[BloodyFuton]

I wouldn't do that, but I will probably ***** and moan on this site. :)

yeah I was bs'ing but I would dream about breaking my 360 and burning my rock band bundle and then i would wake up and go play rock band all the while wishing that I could play some sober or Jambi or anything else from Tool

[TheTogfather]

Wow...picked up on some votes here over the weekend...well done folks. Let us hope for a glorious announcement soon....and as Sean has directed us in his developer bio, each say a silent prayer to MJK...

[IbanezBassist_v2]

I think this is by far, my favorite Tool drum cover:

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It's not the same pattern Danny plays for the song, but it is BADASS nonetheless.

Damn!:eek:

[tombrady]

even if you think that Tool are a bunch of pretentious dickwads, you can't deny their musical talent. They are a perfect band for this game. I do have a hard time believing Maynard would allow their music to be put into a video game though...as talented as the guy is, sorry, he's a *****.

Unfortunately there are only a few songs that wouldn't be totally ruined by the need for censorship. Having said that, I'd love to play Jambi...the drum part alone would make my brain explode...I'm surprised more people don't like Jambi as much, it's musically one of their most beautiful songs.

[thrdeye]

Unfortunately there are only a few songs that wouldn't be totally ruined by the need for censorship.

Actually, pretty much all of Lateralus and 10,000 Days is curse-free.

[SavagePlanet]

I do have a hard time believing Maynard would allow their music to be put into a video game though...as talented as the guy is, sorry, he's a *****.

First off, I don't see why they would have a problem having their music in a game that they liked, and according to some reports, the band is quite fond of Guitar Hero and was even playing it in the studio while recording 10,000 Days. Now, I don't know if that's true, but that was the word floating around, in this very thread, as a matter of fact. There's also the rumor that the band was going to be put into GH2, but didn't make it in at the last minute for some reason. I really wish someone at Harmonix would clear this up and let us know if the band is even interested at this point.

Secondly, I don't think MJK is as much of a ***** as he's made out to be. I talked to a guy that came into my work about a month ago who said he actually used to be roommates with Maynard back in the late 80's before Tool formed. Now, I don't know if the guy was making this up or if he was crazy, but when I asked him how Maynard was, he told me he was one of the coolest people you'd ever meet. That being true or not, I personally just think he has an odd sense of humor, and people just perceive him in the wrong way because of it. He does have an air of arrogance about him, but I think his "*****" rep is due to the misinterpretation of his strange sense of humor. He likes to mess with people and see what sort of reaction he can get.

[battle_axe_of_doom]

actually maynard is just a pretentious *****. good singer, overrated lyricist, huge *****

[battle_axe_of_doom]

Actually, pretty much all of Lateralus and 10,000 Days is curse-free.

lmao rosetta stoned has more curses in it that you would believe. yes i know you said "pretty much" but when you have a 9 minute song that is mostly "GOD DAMN **** THE BED" and other "**** idk wut i just saw" non-sense that more than makes up for the rest of the album

[TheTogfather]

Here (http://www.toolband.com/news/letter/2006_02.php) is the Tool Newsletter that specifically mentions the band playing GH while wrapping up 10,000 Days.

I'm going to look around some more for the quote where someone (can't remember if it was Tool or HMX or someone else) mentioned that the band missed the deadline for making it into GH2.

And I've gone on at length, in this thread, on my thoughts of this whole 'arrogant *****' notion.

[SavagePlanet]

actually maynard is just a pretentious *****. good singer, overrated lyricist, huge *****

Actually, you don't know what the hell you're talking about. Do you know him personally? I've only seen him be a ***** to interviewers and that's because the interviewers were complete douchebags and deserved that sort of treatment for acting so stupid. When someone with half a brain interviews him and doesn't come off as the village idiot, he's respectful and decent to them. I'm not claiming to know the guy personally, either, but I'm just saying I think people misinterpret a lot of his actions. As for being an overrated lyricist, I disagree. Point out to me more than five song writers that can write as poignantly poetic as MJK. Please.

Rosetta Stoned is nearly 12 minutes long, actually, and has by far the largest amount of cursing on the whole album. That wouldn't even be a song they would consider putting in the game due to its length and strange opening vocal section. As for Lateralus, there are virtually NO curse words all the way through. Please point them out to me.

[thrdeye]

lmao rosetta stoned has more curses in it that you would believe. yes i know you said "pretty much" but when you have a 9 minute song that is mostly "GOD DAMN **** THE BED" and other "**** idk wut i just saw" non-sense that more than makes up for the rest of the album

You typed "wut". Your posts are null and void.

[IbanezBassist_v2]

These people that are against Tool, obviously are huge Jackson 5 fans.

[The_Wurm]

These people that are against Tool, obviously are huge Jackson 5 fans.

Heyyyyyyyyyy.....



...I happen to like the Jackson 5.....



...you big meanie.

[IbanezBassist_v2]

These people that are against Tool, obviously are huge Maroon 5 fans.



...I happen to like the Jackson 5.....



...you big meanie.

There....is that better?

[IbanezBassist_v2]

A very interesting excerpt from from fellow forum and HMX employee spraynwipe . This regarding hmxsean's interview (http://www.rockband.com/index.php?do=/public/blog/view/id_458/). I got excited when I read this. A hint maybe? Or wishfull thinking?


I am impressed by your recent Reaper performance. What kind of training do you undergo before a public performance?

I have a very specific routine I am incredibly superstitious about. First I hop around to get the blood flowing, then I do my stretches so I don?t pull anything, then I whisper a quiet prayer to Maynard James Keenan that he help me in this moment of need, then I probably have a drink. I also make sure several weeks in advance of the performance to have lots of beer so my belly is sufficiently Rubenesque.

[TheTogfather]

Sean is just toying with us now. I'd be mad at him if it was possible.

[battle_axe_of_doom]

You typed "wut". Your posts are null and void.

ur name is thrdeye every thing you ever typed have been null and void along with the post i just quoted. so u stfu and go gag on tool. its tool fans like u, and the other douchebags on TDN that give tool a bad name. maynard's lyrics are only to poetic to morons who can't seem to grasp the fact that tool are just ****ing with you. read the wiki on stinkfist apparently the song isn't about fisting which it most obviously is. as for better lyricist than MJK : dylan, mccartney, lennon, morrison, neil young, mikael akerfeldt (though he's swedish and his english isn't perfect and he does screw up), roger waters, paul simon, etc etc etc etc

and i like tool so dont' make me out to be a tool hater. i'm just realistic and don't have half my head shoved up their ass

[SavagePlanet]

ur name is thrdeye every thing you ever typed have been null and void along with the post i just quoted. so u stfu and go gag on tool. its tool fans like u, and the other douchebags on TDN that give tool a band name.

No, I'm pretty sure it was the original members of Tool that gave themselves their band name.

[battle_axe_of_doom]

oops let me edit it u picky ****