Sympathy For the Devil in GH5

[ylowbstard]

http://www.guitarherogame.fr/Guitar-Hero-5-se-montre-en-video.html

In this video, there's a sample of SFTD, my favorite Stone's song, in gamplay. I was hoping for a live or alternate version of the song that had a guitar track throughout, but that's just not the case. It's the original version, so the guitar gameplay is completely awkward. There IS no guitar, so strumming along is going to be rubbish. Oh well, other than that, the solo will be SWEET, bass and drums'll be good, and the graphics are the best yet in a music game by far.

[bmaninc]

I love the tweaked interface. Much cleaner, IMO.

[ylowbstard]

I love the tweaked interface. Much cleaner, IMO.Yeah, the new interface is pretty classy, in GHWT, it was so cluttered, I started to feel clostrophobic! The graphics though are a serious plus this time around.

[chumsicles]

Looks like the vocal system is as unintuitive as ever

[Julio_Strikes_Back]

http://www.guitarherogame.fr/Guitar-Hero-5-se-montre-en-video.html

In this video, there's a sample of SFTD, my favorite Stone's song, in gamplay. I was hoping for a live or alternate version of the song that had a guitar track throughout, but that's just not the case. It's the original version, so the guitar gameplay is completely awkward. There IS no guitar, so strumming along is going to be rubbish. Oh well, other than that, the solo will be SWEET, bass and drums'll be good, and the graphics are the best yet in a music game by far.

Nope. Characters still look ugly. Presentation looks nice and cleaned up though.

[kingtonyx]

Looks like the vocal system is as unintuitive as ever

for once, I'm going to agree with you

the vocal system seems to kill any chance of me getting this

[timmay9]

Still bleh for me.

[LinkStrifeLeonhart]

So far the note highways look a lot better. Only thing I have a problem with is where the multipliers are placed, but I'll have to play the game before I know if they're inconvenient or not.

[Runesmith]

Is it just me or does Ring of Fire sound dramatically different from the version we're used to hearing?

[Julio_Strikes_Back]

Is it just me or does Ring of Fire sound dramatically different from the version we're used to hearing?

It sounds like an eighties re-record like our Roy Orbison tracks (at least I think).

[Soratar]

Still bleh for me.

Same here.

[LinkStrifeLeonhart]

Is it just me or does Ring of Fire sound dramatically different from the version we're used to hearing?

I think it is mainly how they mixed the audio, but I do admit the vocals sound a bit weird.

[kiggidykev]

Is it just me or does Ring of Fire sound dramatically different from the version we're used to hearing?

That's what I was thinking, yeah. It sounded more oompah-pah-ish, if that's a word. heh

[General Lein979]

It sounds like an eighties re-record like our Roy Orbison tracks (at least I think).There is no re-record that exists.

[Julio_Strikes_Back]

There is no re-record that exists.

well then they have a production genius that can separate the original version like we do

[Ragin_Caucasion]

Wow, that trailer actually made GH look... GOOD. I'm definitely going to be following GH5 now. And are those the real in-game graphics? They look leagues better than GH:WT and even RB2. I can also actually see the bass notes now, plus the Party Mode looks really cool for having friends over.

I really wish HMX wasn't waiting till 2010 for RB3 now. That trailer really showed me what can be done with new disc iterations. Hopefully HMX will pull something like springing RB3 on the industry in early 2010 or something.

[Ferocious Q]

Ring Of Fire sounds weird...

[travmeatwad]

http://www.guitarherogame.fr/Guitar-Hero-5-se-montre-en-video.html

In this video, there's a sample of SFTD, my favorite Stone's song, in gamplay. I was hoping for a live or alternate version of the song that had a guitar track throughout, but that's just not the case. It's the original version, so the guitar gameplay is completely awkward. There IS no guitar, so strumming along is going to be rubbish. Oh well, other than that, the solo will be SWEET, bass and drums'll be good, and the graphics are the best yet in a music game by far.

I think that goes to The Beatles: Rock Band.

[ylowbstard]

Nope. Characters still look ugly. Presentation looks nice and cleaned up though.Johnny Napalm was always ugly, even back in the HMNX days lol. But the graphics are beautiful, despite how the characters themselves look (that heavy metal dude looked awesome!). And from what Iève seen, the graphics are better than The Beatles: Rock Band. TBRB obviously has better art direction, but technically, it would have to go to GH5.

[Lady Siara]

It seems like they always pick the most well known song by a band instead of the most fun to play.

[Julio_Strikes_Back]

Johnny Napalm was always ugly, even back in the HMNX days lol. But the graphics are beautiful, despite how the characters themselves look (that heavy metal dude looked awesome!). And from what Iève seen, the graphics are better than The Beatles: Rock Band. TBRB obviously has better art direction, but technically, it would have to go to GH5.

TBRB has better eye movements and expressions which is a makeorbreak issue for me.

[carlos_el]

I agree that the characters still look ugly, but disagree about the vocals. I thought they looked much better, more similar to Rock Band's engine than World Tour's.

[ylowbstard]

TBRB has better eye movements and expressions which is a makeorbreak issue for me.Id put that under art direction. BAND based games need these qualities. For example GHM had excellent animation (James Hetfield especially). When RB3 finally drops (I hope sooner than later) it wont have those qualities that The Beatles:RB will. Its just the way it goes.

[Julio_Strikes_Back]

Id put that under art direction. BAND based games need these qualities. For example GHM had excellent animation (James Hetfield especially). When RB3 finally drops (I hope sooner than later) it wont have those qualities that The Beatles:RB will. Its just the way it goes.

Doesn't matter if better eye movements are on John, Paul, George and Ringo or any other generic rocker in these games. I'd rather see the characters looking lively than the GH puppets.

[ylowbstard]

Doesn't matter if better eye movements are on John, Paul, George and Ringo or any other generic rocker in these games. I'd rather see the characters looking lively than the GH puppets.Thats what Im saying... check out GHM. When a band is heavily involved, they tend to go the extra mile to reproduce the looks, moves, and manurisms of the artist(s). The big exception ofcourse being Aerosmith!

[mjlambert1]

Sympathy for the Devil aka "Guitarist can go grab a sandwich"

[mjlambert1]

I agree that the characters still look ugly, but disagree about the vocals. I thought they looked much better, more similar to Rock Band's engine than World Tour's.

So people are going to buy GH so they can sing like RB?

Oh you people at Neversoft!

[LuigiHann]

Man, I'm going to have to revive my Keytar Hero controller plans. Sympathy For The Devil is an epic song regardless.

[toymachineSH]

can I ask how the vocal engine exactly looks unintuitive?
baww


edit: I prefer counter intuitive personally.

[General Lein979]

can I ask how the vocal engine exactly looks unintuitive? Is that even a freaking word?

bawwFanboyism you know the deal.

[ylowbstard]

Fanboyism you know the deal.Lol I know... How "intuitive" can a vocal engine in a game look? It's been basically the same since Karaoke Revolution!

[General Lein979]

Lol I know... How "intuitive" can a vocal engine in a game look? It's been basically the same since Karaoke Revolution!I know they complain when it's too different and they complain when it looks similar. I prefer similar easier to switch between the two.

[LinkStrifeLeonhart]

can I ask how the vocal engine exactly looks unintuitive? Is that even a freaking word?

baww

Well not to defend him or anything, but my problem with it it that where the words scroll and where the multiplier are are on two opposite sides of the pitch area. One wouldn't be looking in a central place and instead would have to dart eyes every so often.

But hey, this is a topic about GH so you were bound to show up.

[toymachineSH]

forgot what forum I was on for a second ;)

[LinkStrifeLeonhart]

forgot what forum I was on for a second ;)

Glad you didn't respond to my point, Mr. "LEAVE GH ALOOONE"

I will personally wait to see how the interface is while playing and see if it a hectic mess like WT was. It has the makings to be a good game and it is shaping up to have a great setlist, but I'll still point out flaws in it like I would RB. One of these days I'll have to make a write up on what I dislike in RB2 just because.

EDIT:: In fact my main problem right now is HOPO chords. They make some charts just plain unreadable and I feel that they don't add much since more often than not it is more productive to simply strum them.

[LuigiHann]

I will add that the piano charting here reminds me what was cool about covers: they could be tailored to the gameplay. In GH Smash Hits, the piano is charted in Killer Queen, but in the original GH, you played a guitar part that was recorded to go along with the piano part. A rerecord could serve the same purpose (the version of "Where'd You Go" in RB2 seems to have some guitar riffs that mimic the horn parts of the original) but they seem to be rarer. It'd be kind of cool if musicians would more often allow Harmonix and Wavegroup to add in guitar and drum tracks to parts of songs where the gameplay would benefit significantly.

[funkydunkleman]

I like this interface a lot. Might be the first guitar hero game I'll buy in about 18 mos.

[Zidane]

I want Santana in Rock Band.

[ThunderCurls]

EDIT:: In fact my main problem right now is HOPO chords. They make some charts just plain unreadable and I feel that they don't add much since more often than not it is more productive to simply strum them.


Then strum them?

[killer_roach]

Then strum them?

With GH's HOPO system, strumming HOPOs is likely to get counted as two hits. One of those times where the chasm-like timing trips over itself...

[ThunderCurls]

With GH's HOPO system, strumming HOPOs is likely to get counted as two hits. One of those times where the chasm-like timing trips over itself...

Nope. I strum them all the time. I find it easier to keep the rhythm in some parts.

[killer_roach]

I strum them as well... and end up with a lot of phantom overstrums as a result.

[ThunderCurls]

Sounds like there is an issue with your controller.

[LinkStrifeLeonhart]

Then strum them?

Which is what I said I do? The main concern is that it makes several charts a whole lot harder to read because of the HOPO chords. Take some of the country tracks for example, the HOPO chords are used frequently and I feel that it simply inflates the difficulty for no real reason at all. I feel the same with whatever it is that they are called in GH.

[ylowbstard]

Which is what I said I do? The main concern is that it makes several charts a whole lot harder to read because of the HOPO chords. Take some of the country tracks for example, the HOPO chords are used frequently and I feel that it simply inflates the difficulty for no real reason at all. I feel the same with whatever it is that they are called in GH.What is a HOPO chord? I'm just not following.

[ryan12147]

It seems like they always pick the most well known song by a band instead of the most fun to play.

That's because Nevervision only cares about money and not it's fans or getting a band's name out there

[LinkStrifeLeonhart]

What is a HOPO chord? I'm just not following.

Hammer on pull off chord. It was a new mechanic introduced in Rock Band 2. Other than for authenticity's sake, it serves hardly any purpose unless the chord has a note added up or down. I'm talking about going from G to GR. Ones that go like GR to YB don't seem to work all that well and when one is thrown in with a bevy of regular chords it makes reading the chart more difficult than it should be.

[Jorm]

GH5 is looking much better than GH:WT. It's back on my 'maybe buy' list.

But what about the sound? The big issue I have with the Guitar Hero games is how 'mushy' the sound quality is, compared to Rock Band. My eyes tell me what buttons are coming up, but my ears tell me when to strum. Maybe I'm just weird like that, but the sound quality in the Guitar Hero games I've tried really hold me back from that franchise.

[Ezekiel17]

I hate fanboyism. Honesty, as long as the music is good, I'll buy the game.
Also, GH5 looks alot better than GHWT, though they could clean up the characters a bit. (Also, was that some new gothic-looking Midori I saw in the video?)

[ylowbstard]

I hate fanboyism. Honesty, as long as the music is good, I'll buy the game.
Also, GH5 looks alot better than GHWT, though they could clean up the characters a bit. (Also, was that some new gothic-looking Midori I saw in the video?)It did look like a Gothic Midori! Honestly, I just hope you can customize your whole band this time. No one wants to see thier custom character playing along side a bunch of uglies!

[ThunderCurls]

That's because Nevervision only cares about money and not it's fans or getting a band's name out there

Typical fanboy response! Keep it up, Harmonix love you!

[pacifistWITHgun]

It just me or are they charting piano on Sympathy For the Devil?

Otherwise the game doesn't look like crap...

[Julio_Strikes_Back]

It just me or are they charting piano on Sympathy For the Devil?

Otherwise the game doesn't look like crap...

yeah they charted the piano

I don't really care. The violin is charted in I Am the Walrus and I think that's awesome so I personally have no room to criticize.

[Ravioli1992]

wow, had no idea they were even making another Guitar Hero 5. looks awesome. nice to see they fixed the terrible vocal track issue of World Tour and Metallica. looks alot more efficient. just hope for the follwing: the Wii version animations aren't the same quality as that of world tour. looked awful. and that they dont go overboard with the new modes. becoming harder and harder to enjoy career mode with all of these unecessary add ons.

[ThunderCurls]

It just me or are they charting piano on Sympathy For the Devil?

Otherwise the game doesn't look like crap...

HMX have done the same before.