rap or rock?

[steve64]

rap or rock?
i say rock because rap just is not real music.
rap sucks.

[Maggot_Brain]

Shouldn't you be in school?

Just wondering..... :)

[steve64]

yes i should but there is a two hour delay

[Robert Maynard]

Wow, rock is winning? On a forum for Rock Band? No..
I think what you meant to say is "rap just is not the kind of music I like to listen to"

[steve64]

i guess your right

[GHudston]

As far as I'm concerned, rap for the most part has more in common with poetry than with music.

When confronted with questions like this I always say that I have far greater respect for bands who play instruments rather than just talk in a vaguely rhythmic manner along to a pre recorded track. (usually a remixed version of someone else's work, unfortunately.)

That being said, rap can be a valid form of expression and there are a number of rap tracks that I will listen to based on their content. I just wish that more rap artists would expand their horizons beyond women, drugs, money and gang warfare. It's a stereotype, I know, but it's one which wouldn't exist if the vast majority of rap artists didn't perpetuate it themselves.

All this aside, though, this is the Rock Band forum... what do you think I prefer? :D

[Robert Maynard]

I'm essentially playing Devil's Advocate here, because I really can't stand a great deal of rap, but..

"I have far greater respect for bands who play instruments"

Using this as a criticism of rap (or any sample-driven electronic music) really relies a lot on dismissing the mixing table as a kind of instrument, or meta-instrument. There are quite a few rap/hip-hop artists that sit down in a studio and mix their own music (whether by way of original studio tracks or samples). It's a little hard to dismiss this kind of work as not requiring talent, when there's such a diversity of aesthetic outcomes possible from different interpretations of the same stuff.

[ShadowOfEden]

Aren't we in ROCK band's forum? Surely, people around are more fans of rock than Rap... Try this out on Rappapa the Rapper forum. :P

[GHudston]

I'm essentially playing Devil's Advocate here, because I really can't stand a great deal of rap, but..

"I have far greater respect for bands who play instruments"

Using this as a criticism of rap (or any sample-driven electronic music) really relies a lot on dismissing the mixing table as a kind of instrument, or meta-instrument. There are quite a few rap/hip-hop artists that sit down in a studio and mix their own music (whether by way of original studio tracks or samples). It's a little hard to dismiss this kind of work as not requiring talent, when there's such a diversity of aesthetic outcomes possible from different interpretations of the same stuff.

That's a fair point, but I -would- dismiss a mixing table as a type of instrument. I didn't say that it doesn't require talent though, I just don't see it as an instrument as you aren't creating any music, you're just mixing up prerecorded sounds.

It's also worth mentioning that just because something isn't created with what I would define as an instrument doesn't mean that I don't see it as music. I quite enjoy Daft Punk as an example, and I feel that the only reason rap is considered music is due to the loops used. As I said earlier, rap itself is more akin to poetry than music in a large number of cases.

[RogerTarin]

Aren't we in ROCK band's forum? Surely, people around are more fans of rock than Rap... Try this out on Rappapa the Rapper forum. :P

hahahaha good one

[RogerTarin]

As far as I'm concerned, rap for the most part has more in common with poetry than with music.

D

With poetry.......are you being serious? Let's ask 50cent and Soulja Boy lol poetry gets rappers to get shot to death how romantic lol

You can tell i hate rap right? :D

[Julio_No_Mas]

There's already two of these threads in History of Rock forum.

[luminary pants]

With poetry.......are you being serious? Let's ask 50cent and Soulja Boy lol poetry gets rappers to get shot to death how romantic lol

You can tell i hate rap right? :D

Rap can be poetry, nothing that is currently popular will be for the most part though.
Everything new sounds the same to me, and basically covers the same content as was previously discussed.

I can stand some of the older hip hop, but in general rap is really not my thing. I think the only thing I can really listen to without skipping over it is wu tang.
I will people metal/hardcore/screamo/rock over it any day that we arn't throwing a party.

[TheRocker]

Why would you ask this in a forum named RockBand about a game called RockBand were the music genre is compiled of Rock , its just stupid sorry.