Killzone 2 bullshot?

[Bakkster]

http://kotaku.com/index.php?refId=331771

http://kotaku.com/assets/resources/2007/12/killzonebullshot.jpg

Minor touch-up, or misleading picture?

[LZ_Reborn]

ahh!! can't access the link, I'm currently at work:(

can you paste the pic in the post? or what is it?

[Bakkster]

The pic is in the post, so that must be blocked for you too :(

[Eastwood]

Maybe they just changed the enviroment.... Or they realized that no one will buy this game if it doesn't match GoW graphics.

[TheRocker]

Whats wrong with it ?

[Bakkster]

Whats wrong with it ?

The one on the left is an actual in-game screenshot. The one on the right is retouched for advertising/game magazines.

The accusation is that by changing the color range and increasing the contrast (and maybe even upping the textures) the media picture gives a false sense of what the game looks like.

[Coldplayer]

Hm, I just think it's because the left pic if right from the video presentation, and the video settings just weren't optimal. It's too bright and not as much color.
I think on a good TV, that is set up right, it could look like in the right pic.

[Eastwood]

Hm, I just think it's because the left pic if right from the video presentation, and the video settings just weren't optimal. It's too bright and not as much color.
I think on a good TV, that is set up right, it could look like in the right pic.

No, they upped the size of the gun as well. Bigger guns = bigger sales. Photoshop FTW

[Huskie]

The pictures were taken at different angles. They couldn't have photoshopped that.

I just think the one on the left just had the brightness turned on too high.
Who shot the one on the left?
If they were both taken by the same developer, they might have just taken a different frame and fixed the colors on the one on the right.
The reason for the second pic to have a bigger gun, might be because the gun was raised (using tele) and was being lowered at the time of the frames?

[Bakkster]

The pictures were taken at different angles. They couldn't have photoshopped that.

I just think the one on the left just had the brightness turned on too high.
Who shot the one on the left?
If they were both taken by the same developer, they might have just taken a different frame and fixed the colors on the one on the right.
The reason for the second pic to have a bigger gun, might be because the gun was raised (using tele) and was being lowered at the time of the frames?

My thoughts are that it's better to properly calibrate the brightness etc. BEFORE taking the screenshot. Doing any post-processing besides cropping, resizing, and brightness correction feels misleading to me. I'm not sure what the case here was. If the game actually looks like the screen on the right, that's cool. If they added the color depth in post, that's making the game look better than it really is.

Not a clear-cut as when you see characters half cut out...

[jq715861]

They just don't look like the same picture.

Aside from the two pictures being at different angles, if you look at the one on the right there are two red "dots" under the guy's feet who is jumping over the wall. They are clearly missing in the picture on the left.

[Bakkster]

They just don't look like the same picture.

They obviously aren't, but they're taken from the same scene, so they should look similar.

[jq715861]

They obviously aren't, but they're taken from the same scene, so they should look similar.

Could they have been taken at different times during development? I've seen that picture on the left many times before and the one on the left is new to me.

[Bakkster]

Could they have been taken at different times during development? I've seen that picture on the left many times before and the one on the left is new to me.

One of the devs said this:

They are only the tiniest bit touched up. Short answer is yes. Long answer is that there was a little bit of colour-correction done and some minor polish, but nothing major. Still very close to reality and it looks better in motion in my opinion.

[gh2masterwellalmost]

LOL sony are just trying to rebuild their reputation after lying bout PS3 and PS2 graphics but guess what. They do it again. I'm not anti-Sony (though i have been in the past) but considering they've turned what should have been the best console into a world hated phenomnon [spell check], its time to roll out the best PR sony can afford.

[Tendoza]

To me it looks like the one on the left had the gamma up too high. Try turning the gamma to full on a game like FEAR, it doesn't look nearly as good.

[toefer]

I think this whole thing is rather dumb. Comparing a picture thats been out for a while to something that was admittedly touched up obviously seems bad. But who's to say that they haven't gone in and changed some things since the one on the left was taken (and by changed things, I don't just mean touching it up).

The one on the right looks better (I like the shadows), but if the game ends up looking like the one on the left, does anyone really care?

This was a dumb move on Guerilla Games' part, considering the controversy they started a couple years ago. The whole in-game/pre-rendered thing still gets crapped on from 360 people, and this new picture thing is only giving them something else to chew on.

My bet is on the real game looking like neither picture, and is obviously somewhere between the two.

[sa_nick]

The crappy looking shot looks like a screen grab from a Killzone video i saw ages ago. That video was filmed, so it wasnt really showing the proper image.

I dunno, as long as it looks sweet in the end, everything is fine.

[defmonkey]

Haven't people being crying foul on Killzone since the first damn vid at E3 a couple years ago? (I can't really remember which E3, seems to be the '05 one)

I mean, they show this awesome vid of Killzone. And it looks badass. I was showing friends in school on how badass it looks. And then all the talk about Bullshot and its not real gameplay video and the game didn't resurface until last years E3.

And even if the shots are 2 different shots. You can still tell there's a huge difference between the two. The stains on the walls. The yellow symbol on the box below the platform where the dude is leaping.

Minor touch up or not. Its Bullshot and I'm quite tired of gaming companies touching up their games to make it look better then what the final product actually is.