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gamingeek
12-10-2007, 06:02 AM
I bought a standalone copy of this game and have yet to be able to play it. It is a real shame too as RB looks amazing. But it's not exactly like we can buy instruments for it can we? Why would EA even sell a stand alone version that cannot be played?

Are we getting a patch or not?

Highlandlassie
12-10-2007, 06:24 AM
Because they are either deceptive or idiots.

At least you can get a usb mic and start singing for now,
We had to buy 2 sets on launch day when we found out that POS les paul would not work, but it was worth every penny.

Zeon0087
12-10-2007, 07:06 AM
Maybe they just wanted to make people who chipped in for their bundles with friends capable of getting their own game copy so they can play separately.

TuRDMaN
12-10-2007, 07:59 AM
Well, supposedly the patch was completed last week (or earlier), but for some reason they can't release it now. I was hoping some more info would be out today, but I guess I was expecting too much :(

MotoX3style
12-10-2007, 08:20 AM
I forgot where I read it, but I heard a rumor that they couldn't release the patch because of legal issues. As in Red Octane/Activision were gonna sue Harmonix if they release it. That would kinda make sense, but is total crap in my opinion. Both games are good(albeit RB is far better) so I don't understand what the problem is. If we can't use the guitars, Harmonix will benefit anyway despite the BS 'cause I'll be buying a second guitar for Rock Band, not GH3. Either way, I hope we can get the patch soon!!! Would be nice if Red Octane came out with a patch for the Fender Strat to work on GH3 too, but that might be asking too much of the bastards.

gamingeek
12-10-2007, 11:17 AM
Can we please get an OFFICIAL response?

WHERE IS THE PATCH THAT YOU PROMISED US?

Phane7
12-10-2007, 11:29 AM
What Harmonix has said is that the patch is done, tested, it works, and it's been submitted to Sony. It's Sony's job to release it, so it's out of their hands.

Rumor is that Activision (the company that distributes Guitar Hero 3) sent a team of lawyers over to Sony to stop them from releasing the patch. No one has publicly confirmed or denied this rumor.

greygoosetall
12-10-2007, 11:39 AM
I forgot where I read it, but I heard a rumor that they couldn't release the patch because of legal issues. As in Red Octane/Activision were gonna sue Harmonix if they release it. That would kinda make sense, but is total crap in my opinion.

I do know for a fact that Red Octane worked WITH HMX and Sony with total blessing to make the patch. I just don't know if Activision stepped in.

If that is the case, I swear on my life I will never buy GH again. And I like GH better. But you have to take a stand somewhere.

gamingeek
12-10-2007, 12:14 PM
What Harmonix has said is that the patch is done, tested, it works, and it's been submitted to Sony. It's Sony's job to release it, so it's out of their hands.

Rumor is that Activision (the company that distributes Guitar Hero 3) sent a team of lawyers over to Sony to stop them from releasing the patch. No one has publicly confirmed or denied this rumor.

If this is the case-- why don't they tell us that? The last official word was that the patch was on the way. I paid good money for the game under the assumption that I would be able to play it w/ my Les Paul guitar. If they are not going to be able to support this then why the hell can't they tell us that? I am sick of this waiting game.

Another question is why the hell did they release a standalone version for the PS3 when there are no instruments available for purchase? EA really screwed the PS3 crowd over on this one.

JackBNimble
12-10-2007, 12:54 PM
Here is just a RUMOR or NOT, take it how ever way you want.

http://www.destructoid.com/rumor-activision-behind-rock-band-ps3-compatability-patch-delay--58054.phtml

nicko68
12-10-2007, 01:08 PM
It's really in Sony's best interest to let the patch through. Aren'ty they bigger than Activison? Sony should have had a restriction that controllers couldn't be propietary all along, like Microsoft has.

Liquidsnake
12-10-2007, 01:19 PM
Umm I downloaded a patch for the ps3, what was that about? I just bought RB, thought that was the compatibility patch, but i tried using the wireless gibson and i couldnt play with it :(

PHiNiX
12-10-2007, 01:51 PM
I bought a standalone copy of this game and have yet to be able to play it. It is a real shame too as RB looks amazing. But it's not exactly like we can buy instruments for it can we? Why would EA even sell a stand alone version that cannot be played?

Are we getting a patch or not?

id use the controller

there are to many posts like this (should have bought an xbox, darn)

gamingeek
12-10-2007, 02:37 PM
id use the controller

there are to many posts like this (should have bought an xbox, darn)

Why bother? It'd probably just get RROD'D from playing it too much.

gamingeek
12-10-2007, 11:02 PM
So is anyone who represents this company going to tell us ps3 owners when is the patch going to be available?

MotoX3style
12-11-2007, 12:41 AM
I just read this interesting bit from www.PSU.com. It seems Red Octane has officially responded. I'll copy & paste from here:

http://www.psu.com/Red-Octane-on-Guitar-Compatibility-News--a0002134-p0.php

"Posted on December 11th, 2007 at 01:23 EDT

So you've invested in Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock and now are itching to get Rock Band which only brings one guitar in it's bundle, but luckily your Guitar Hero guitar is ready to rock...not just yet. As it has been a recent topic of discussion, the Guitar Hero guitar is not compatible with Rock Band and now Red Octane, developer of the controllers for Guitar Hero since day one, has responded to the issue.

Red Octane's co-founder and VP of Business Development, "I totally understand where the consumer is coming from. Quite honestly, you're not buying a $40, $50 or $60 game. You're buying a $100 Guitar Hero bundle, a $170 Rock Band bundle and suddenly you're finding out you just spent $270 and things aren't going right," said Huang in a recent interview.

As for the PS3's side of things, neither Red Octane nor Harmonix get their peripherals to run over Bluetooth, forcing them to develop USB dongles on their own.

"Red Octane was in development on Guitar Hero and Harmonix was in development on Rock Band, and we would take our guitars and our software into Sony and show them what we're going to build. They would test them and say 'fine, that works.' Harmonix would do the same with Rock Band controllers and Rock Band and Sony would test them and say 'fine, that works,'" explained Huang. "Sony's supposed to be a neutral third-party and they're not supposed to tell us what Harmonix is doing and they're not supposed to tell Harmonix what we're doing, so they can't release any information to either side that say 'well, Red Octane, you're guitars aren't working with their software.'"

Although it seems as both companies don't have a problem working together (as both have worked together on Guitar Hero II on the Xbox 360), Red Octane isn't jumping at fixing the issue of the Rock Band guitar not working on Guitar Hero III. Huang went on to state, "I don't think we're too interested in having their guitars work on our game, because they're having a lot of issues with their guitars, from our standpoint, to be quite honest, if you know a competitor's product has issues, there's not a whole lot of motivation to make these problematic controllers work with your game. Why would you want to cause yourself the headache?"

The whole situation has left Huang a little unhappy. Before launch, Harmonix said their guitars adhered to an "open standard" on each platform making it seem that if a guitar didn't work in their game, it was the manufacturer's fault.

"There is no such thing as an open standard on PS3 for guitar controllers. That's just a crock. Open standard is something like USB or 802.11 [a wireless protocol]. They publish the spec and if you want to build a USB anything, you follow these specs. I defy anybody to show me, before our games were released, to show a published spec of how to build a guitar controller on PS3," said Huang.

With the impending patch that Harmonix plans to be releasing for Rock Band, it may just be a matter of time before Red Octane and Activision will have to fold and please the consumer by providing support for the Rock Band guitar in Guitar Hero through a similar patch.

Source: 1up.com"


Well... I guess we just have to wait :-/

gamingeek
12-11-2007, 03:18 AM
This is BS! HARMAONIX WHY ARE YOU SILENT ON THIS? WHY HAVE YOU SOLD US A PRODUCT THAT IS UNPLAYABLE?!

sarkster@sarkster.com
12-11-2007, 03:51 AM
Calm down love. Its not unplayable. Do you realise how old you look, posting like that?

gamingeek
12-11-2007, 03:57 AM
Technically you are right but I don't feel like buying the special edition when I already purchased a standalone copy. The PS3 version is NOT compatible with other guitar controllers until we get this friggin patch that they promised to us days ago.

invisible21
12-11-2007, 03:58 AM
First of all, to the people saying they think Activision or Red Octane are sending lawyers to prevent this patch...it just doesn't make sense.

Think about it, if GHIII controllers could work with Rock Band, then Activision/Red Octane would sell more of their guitars. It would make absolutely no sense for them to prevent a patch that would allow more people to use their product.

On the other hand, EA/HMX could easily be delaying the patch and would have good reason to. For one, you can't get stand alone rock band guitars, so people all over the place would be buying GHIII guitars to use as a bass for Rock Band. Secondly, the current Rock Band guitar is a complete POS and EA is doing a pretty horrendous job of getting replacements to people.

If the GHIII guitar would work with Rock Band, I'd go out and buy the whole GHIII bundle immediately. I specifically didn't buy GHIII because the controller wasn't compatible and if I was going to buy one music game I'd rather have Rock Band. At this point I'm regretting that decision.

sarkster@sarkster.com
12-11-2007, 04:16 AM
That depends, doesnt it.

What makes more long term sense to Activision? Selling guitars now for people to use as a Bass with Rockband, gaining them a few bucks per sale (They arent cash poor, by the way; they just merged with Blizzard who make 5 bazillion dollars per hour from WoW)or obstructing a patch that makes their largest rival in the guitar music genre look worse by the day in its absence?

Think about it :)

Im not naive enough to presume the whole HMX/Red Octane/EA/Activision/Neversoft mixup occured without a trace of acrimony.

invisible21
12-11-2007, 05:52 AM
That depends, doesnt it.

What makes more long term sense to Activision? Selling guitars now for people to use as a Bass with Rockband, gaining them a few bucks per sale (They arent cash poor, by the way; they just merged with Blizzard who make 5 bazillion dollars per hour from WoW)or obstructing a patch that makes their largest rival in the guitar music genre look worse by the day in its absence?

Think about it :)

Im not naive enough to presume the whole HMX/Red Octane/EA/Activision/Neversoft mixup occured without a trace of acrimony.

I still don't see how Activision/Red Octane preventing a patch makes EA look bad...people are still having to buy GHIII or its guitars to make Rock Band work properly. They would buy the Red Octane guitar and say "hey, this isn't a piece of $h!t, this company knows how to make a guitar controller". This would boost the image of Activision and sully that of EA at the same time...double whammy!

sarkster@sarkster.com
12-11-2007, 06:23 AM
Youre saying that as an informed, level headed poster.

Think about Mrs Jones in EB complaining that the GH3 guitar doesnt work with the RB she brought for her son and the guy behind the counter saying its because EA didnt make the game properly.

Or some of the nutters on here, too blinded by their own vitriol and bile to take a balanced view.

Oh, it will reflect badly on EA/Hmx alright. To the people who are too stupid/uninformed to know any better.

gamingeek
12-11-2007, 06:27 AM
So why did they even sell standalone versions of this game for PS3?

My entire point is that if they wanted to sell just the software then they need to provide instruments as well. Otherwise DON'T BOTHER.

Nate Finch
12-11-2007, 07:53 AM
A couple stated reasons - if two people wanted to split a bundle, one could take the drums and one could take the guitar, and then one of them buys the standalone game, so both can play alone on their one instrument, or together.

Also, you can use any old USB microphone to do the singing parts.

I think the first case is pretty valid, though the second one is pretty weak.

I think it's fine to have the standalone game, but it should have had big warning signs all over it that it only officially supports rock band controllers.

bigdizzawg
12-11-2007, 08:44 AM
Sean Says its in Sony's hands, So we should take the topic to their forums, The customer must be satisfied.

Aldous
12-11-2007, 08:57 AM
Where's info on the patch? HMXsean said he would post more info on the delay, BS. If they don't have more info by this point, they have huge problems. i don't understand this closed off view that corporations still hold onto, inform your customers what the hold up is. If activision is stopping the patch let us know, or are you afraid of stepping on their toes. If the patch is still buggy let us know. If you plan on never releasing a patch, let us know. Tell your customers the truth, stop lying to us. I feel lied to, Dec 5th i see a post from a harmonix rep saying the patch will be released today. I ran out and bought the game. Big mistake, I still can't play it, and since it was opened the store won't accept it back. It has been 4 days since any HMX rep has even commented on the patch.

You got me harmonix well played, you lied and cheated me and others out of money and time.

For everyone who thinks creating the patch and debugging takes longer than a week, keep dreaming, and Harmonix if you claim it does, you have some really crappy programmers.

I should have bought a 360, hacked the system and stole your game.

Phane7
12-11-2007, 08:58 AM
First of all, to the people saying they think Activision or Red Octane are sending lawyers to prevent this patch...it just doesn't make sense.

Think about it, if GHIII controllers could work with Rock Band, then Activision/Red Octane would sell more of their guitars. It would make absolutely no sense for them to prevent a patch that would allow more people to use their product.

On the other hand, EA/HMX could easily be delaying the patch and would have good reason to. For one, you can't get stand alone rock band guitars, so people all over the place would be buying GHIII guitars to use as a bass for Rock Band. Secondly, the current Rock Band guitar is a complete POS and EA is doing a pretty horrendous job of getting replacements to people.

If the GHIII guitar would work with Rock Band, I'd go out and buy the whole GHIII bundle immediately. I specifically didn't buy GHIII because the controller wasn't compatible and if I was going to buy one music game I'd rather have Rock Band. At this point I'm regretting that decision.


This is sound logic, however a lot of companies don't use sound logic. Someone at Activision presumedly thinks that they'll make more money in the long run by not letting RB have access to their own guitar controllers. It looks like a dumb move to us but it may be a case of posturing to try to keep GH3 the undisputed king of the guitar sim and make RB look like a cheap knock off not even 'worthy' of using GH3's controllers.

bigdizzawg
12-11-2007, 11:41 AM
Take the message to Sony the ball is in their court:

http://boardsus.playstation.com/playstation/board/message?board.id=music&thread.id=268233

Kincade
12-11-2007, 12:08 PM
My question is, why would you buy just a game that requires peripherals if said peripherals aren't available for sale? Who's the stupid one, the one selling it, or the one buying it? If I poop in my hand and you buy it, who's the dummy?

Would you buy Time Crisis 2 without the gun just becuase you have the GunCon? I sure wouldn't. There are features on the GunCon2 that aren't on the GunCon; not to mention I don't know whether or not they're compatible. Would you buy DDR if all you had was the Pump It Up pad?

You're blaiming others for you own stupidity. No one ever said once that the GH controller works with RB. We all know what happens when you assume.

Otheradam
12-11-2007, 12:31 PM
On this week's podcast of 1up Yours (I think, I listen to too many games podcasts) it was mentioned that the rumor is that Activision is actively trying to block the ps3 patch from going live and at the same time working on a patch for 360 to block their guitars from functioning in Rock Band.

If this happens, expect a sh*t storm to erupt on the internet.

gamingeek
12-11-2007, 01:05 PM
My question is, why would you buy just a game that requires peripherals if said peripherals aren't available for sale? Who's the stupid one, the one selling it, or the one buying it? If I poop in my hand and you buy it, who's the dummy?

Would you buy Time Crisis 2 without the gun just becuase you have the GunCon? I sure wouldn't. There are features on the GunCon2 that aren't on the GunCon; not to mention I don't know whether or not they're compatible. Would you buy DDR if all you had was the Pump It Up pad?

You're blaiming others for you own stupidity. No one ever said once that the GH controller works with RB. We all know what happens when you assume.

You know what? You may want to learn to spell before you go calling others stupid. I just don't get you fanboy types. This is a case of a company releasing a product and not supporting it. We were all lead to believe that RB would support the "other guitar" out there. Everyone pretty much assumed this so at the very least they are guilty of being deceptive. The whole splitting the instruments cost arguement is all fine and good but the fact remains is that THERE ARE NO INSTRUMENTS TO CURRENTLY PURCHASE SEPERATE FROM THE SPECIAL EDITION BUNDLE. They will not be available until well after the holiday season either. SO WTF RELEASE A STAND ALONE VERSION PERIOD YET UNTIL YOU ARE ABLE TO SUPPORT IT? GET IT?!

zerogeo3
12-11-2007, 01:39 PM
You know what? You may want to learn to spell before you go calling others stupid. I just don't get you fanboy types. This is a case of a company releasing a product and not supporting it. We were all lead to believe that RB would support the "other guitar" out there. Everyone pretty much assumed this so at the very least they are guilty of being deceptive. The whole splitting the instruments cost arguement is all fine and good but the fact remains is that THERE ARE NO INSTRUMENTS TO CURRENTLY PURCHASE SEPERATE FROM THE SPECIAL EDITION BUNDLE. They will not be available until well after the holiday season either. SO WTF RELEASE A STAND ALONE VERSION PERIOD YET UNTIL YOU ARE ABLE TO SUPPORT IT? GET IT?!

From the sounds of things it is Activisions fault and not HMX, so go complain on their boards about it not here. It is really sad, when most people who read these boards can point you to where HMX had a fix and now for some reason (Activision) they can not release it. Your anger is misplaced. Also, when saying most music controlers, well most do work with it, the x-plorer, and lp both work on 360 version, only one not working is the lp for PS3, so really most do work. I am not bashing on PS3 owners, just pointing out, the fact that there statement is not a lie. The only difference in the doxes is the PS3 logo and the X-Box logo.

I hope they can get this fixed for you guys, I hope that the other side wants to see it fixed for you. But, as of now, it is not HMX fault....

TuRDMaN
12-11-2007, 01:43 PM
As others have stated, the biggest pissoff is the lack of (reliable) communication. If HMX posted ANYTHING (even if it was nothing useful) on the forums it would quiet at some people down. But they're giving off the appearance of trying to hide something from us, which a lot of people have a problem with, myself included.

zerogeo3
12-11-2007, 01:46 PM
As others have stated, the biggest pissoff is the lack of (reliable) communication. If HMX posted ANYTHING (even if it was nothing useful) on the forums it would quiet at some people down. But they're giving off the appearance of trying to hide something from us, which a lot of people have a problem with, myself included.

They have been posting, but these fourms move super fast. HMXSean posted on it over the weekend. It is also all over the net, that Activision is holding things up...

gamingeek
12-11-2007, 01:46 PM
Un-flipping-believable. I buy a product and I expect to be able to use it. The company who made it has broken their contract with me by not living up to their end of the bargain by providing adequete support and it is not HMX's fault?

I don't mean to be rude, but I personally do not care that they wrote the patch or what Activision is threatening or any of the other 300 excuses that RB fanboys provide. IMO they should have had this all cleared up before they shipped the item. I want answers from the company who produced the game. All this dodging around and all the non-answers statements from HMX guys only reinforces my already negative opinion of HMX and EA in general.

Either that or they need to issue me a refund and be done with it.

zerogeo3
12-11-2007, 01:48 PM
Un-flipping-believable. I buy a product and I expect to be able to use it. The company who made it has broken their contract with me by not living up to their end of the bargain by providing adequete support and it is not HMX's fault?

I don't mean to be rude, but personally do not care that they wrote the patch or what Activision is threatening or any of the other 300 excuses that RB fanboys provide. IMO they should have had this all cleared up before they shipped the item. I want answers from the company who produced the game. All this dodging around and non-answers only reinforces my already negative opinion of HMX and EA in general.

Either that or they need to issue me a refund and be done with it.

Wow, another company that owns the rights to its guitars, and its HMX's fault? You make no sense, espically considering they (HMX) has done what they can... You anger is misguided my friend..

gamingeek
12-11-2007, 01:50 PM
Fine fine fine---


THEN SELL ME A FRIGGIN' RB GUITAR THEN!!

A simple solution to this issue. Do you see what I am getting at here?

zerogeo3
12-11-2007, 01:52 PM
Fine fine fine---


THEN SELL ME A FRIGGIN' RB GUITAR THEN!!

A simple solution to this issue. Do you see what I am getting at here?

Order a replacement express, and don't send your other one back....viloa instant RB guitar... Or there is E-bay....

I truly feel for you guys I do, it sucks, different systems have different hardware issues, it sucks that other guitars are working for you guys.. But getting pissed and flaming just makes things worse.... I hope things work out for you soon....:D

gamingeek
12-11-2007, 01:54 PM
Holy Toledo-- you never even read my original post did you?

This is not about faulty hardware dude. Look at the thread title.

TuRDMaN
12-11-2007, 02:09 PM
They have been posting, but these fourms move super fast. HMXSean posted on it over the weekend. It is also all over the net, that Activision is holding things up...

Sean never said WHY the patch was delayed (anything else is just rumors), and the last post by HMX regarding the patch came on friday (the 7th).

Aldous
12-11-2007, 05:37 PM
Kincade You're wrong


It is more like buying a game that is suppose to work with a six axis controller and you get home to find out you can't use any six axis, only the one in the special bundle pack.

You are right there was never any guarantees that the GH3 controller would work UNTIL HMXSean (HMX means he is from Harmonix) started this thread

http://community.rockband.com/vbforum/showthread.php?t=13383

Just read the first post by him, how could i not assume that the controller would work. It sounds like a guarantee to me. It's even written in bold print. You're telling me thats not a lie.

Ryder35
12-11-2007, 08:01 PM
You know what? You may want to learn to spell before you go calling others stupid......

We were all lead to believe

Am I the only one to find that ironic,? ;)

Nate Finch
12-11-2007, 11:53 PM
Anyone who says we were guaranteed at any point that the GH3 guitar would work is fooling themselves. I was watching *everything* very carefully before the release and never once saw anything that confirmed that the GH3 guitar would work. I was hopeful, but since no one had said anything one way or another, I didn't base my purchase on that fact. Very quickly after Rock Band's release there were many sites that posted compatibility charts which showed that the GH3 guitar didn't work for Rock Band.

As for the patch, they never mentioned the GH3 guitar at all. If you based your purchase off that, then I'm sorry, but you should have waited for independent confirmation. If Harmonix had said "A patch will be released tonight which enables the GH3 guitar", then I'd say yes, you have a right to be upset. They didn't say that, though. We assumed it, but that's all we could do since we never got the patch.

I can understand being upset if you bought a game thinking it would be compatible with controllers you already had, but it's really not Harmonix's fault, just like it's not Ford's fault if you buy a replacement steering wheel from Honda and it turns out not to fit your Taurus.

Aldous
12-12-2007, 12:05 AM
What about there original statement that most guitar controllers will work
i count zero besides the strat on ps3.

If ford sold me a car and they told me honda steering wheels worked with them i would expect them to. Especially if ford sells me that car without a steering wheel and doesnt give me the opportunity to buy one from them. ie ps3 standalone version.

Nate Finch
12-12-2007, 01:14 AM
What about there original statement that most guitar controllers will work
i count zero besides the strat on ps3. Most does not mean all. All that means is that they're not going to actively stop any 3rd party guitars from working, which they haven't.


If ford sold me a car and they told me honda steering wheels worked with them i would expect them to. Especially if ford sells me that car without a steering wheel and doesnt give me the opportunity to buy one from them. ie ps3 standalone version.That's completely different. Ford never said the honda steering wheel was going to work, they said "most standard steering wheels will work". If the only other steering wheel is a Honda one that happens to be incompatible, you can't complain to Ford about that.

Aldous
12-12-2007, 01:20 AM
You agree they said most standard guitar controllers will work. So name one that does on ps3 besides the special bundle strat. if you can then I won't complain I'll just pick one up, but until then i think this is a valid complaint.
GH1 guitar - Not working
GH2 guitar - Not Working
GH3 guitar - Not Working

You are right they never specified the les paul controller, but what does compatiblity for ps3 guitar controllers mean. What other native ps3 guitar controller is there?

If you think they havent stopped controllers from working, why cant i use a regular six axis controller for the game? Seems proprietary to me.

zerogeo3
12-12-2007, 01:32 AM
You agree they said most standard guitar controllers will work. So name one that does on ps3 besides the special bundle strat. if you can then I won't complain I'll just pick one up, but until then i think this is a valid complaint.
GH1 guitar - Not working
GH2 guitar - Not Working
GH3 guitar - Not Working

You are right they never specified the les paul controller, but what does compatiblity for ps3 guitar controllers mean. What other native ps3 guitar controller is there?

If you think they havent stopped controllers from working, why cant i use a regular six axis controller for the game? Seems proprietary to me.

When they say most, it would be a referance to all systems that play the game, hence the X-plorer on the 360 as well as the LP on the 360 would be added into that reference. As for PS2 controlers, from what I understood even with the adapter, you could not do HO and PO with GH. So they have not said anything that is untrue, because in fact most music controllers do work...:eek:

Aldous
12-12-2007, 01:40 AM
Most work except if you buy a ps3 version then none work.
Very deceptive especially with the standalone RB Version. Deception is a form of lying.
I never expected the gh1 and 2 guitars to work for RB or GH3 PS3. They are not native.

I'm sorry but i don't know what HO and PO are.

TreoRock_
12-12-2007, 01:42 AM
I'm expeculating here so don't flame me on this, but could it be possible that HMX is trying to resolve the issues of releasing this patch, but at the same time they want to do this without saying what the problem is in order to make everybody look good. So HMX can't say a word of the problem until the legal issues get solved and the patch gets released.

zerogeo3
12-12-2007, 01:45 AM
Most work except if you buy a ps3 version then none work.
Very deceptive especially with the standalone RB Version. Deception is a form of lying.
I never expected the gh1 and 2 guitars to work for RB or GH3 PS3. They are not native.

I'm sorry but i don't know what HO and PO are.

Its not decptive but an interpretation of the statement just as yours is an interpretation.
HO= Hammer On
PO= Power Off
:eek:

Nate Finch
12-12-2007, 01:53 AM
You agree they said most standard guitar controllers will work. So name one that does on ps3 besides the special bundle strat. if you can then I won't complain I'll just pick one up, but until then i think this is a valid complaint.
GH1 guitar - Not working
GH2 guitar - Not Working
GH3 guitar - Not Working

I don't see how anyone could expect Guitar Hero 1 and 2 guitars to be even remotely compatible with Rock Band, since they're not compatible with the PS3 in general. They're not USB and can't be plugged into the PS3 at all. Yes, there are third party adapters that do an ok job, but neither Sony, Harmonix, EA, Activision, nor Red Octane *ever* mentioned any kind of compatibility for those guitars with the PS3. You might as well complain the XBox 360 controllers aren't compatible with the PS3.

There are only two guitars which are specified to work with the PS3. Is half the guitar market "most"? Well, that's one for the lawyers, but since I see plenty of things saying "one size fits most" and no one complaining about that, I'll have to say that "most" can be a pretty vague term.


If you think they havent stopped controllers from working, why cant i use a regular six axis controller for the game? Seems proprietary to me.

I don't know why they don't let you. Probably because it was too confusing to have the controller for the guitar and also the controller for the mic. But anyway, who plays guitar games with a controller? It's like driving your car with a spoon. Sure you *could* but why would you? It's not like that would actually appease anyone about the guitar compatibility anyway.

Aldous
12-12-2007, 01:54 AM
I'm expeculating here so don't flame me on this, but could it be possible that HMX is trying to resolve the issues of releasing this patch, but at the same time they want to do this without saying what the problem is in order to make everybody look good. So HMX can't say a word of the problem until the legal issues get solved and the patch gets released.

I hope they are trying to release it, and a little info couldnt hurt. Even a speculated release date. I am mad because the last time we were told about the patch HMXSean said it was going live that day. He should have really said going live soon. Since he and harmonix did not deliver on their statement, I don't think an explanation is too much too ask for. All I'm looking for is some info. Without info or an explanation everything seems kinda shady.

Aldous
12-12-2007, 02:00 AM
I don't know why they don't let you. Probably because it was too confusing to have the controller for the guitar and also the controller for the mic. But anyway, who plays guitar games with a controller? It's like driving your car with a spoon. Sure you *could* but why would you? It's not like that would actually appease anyone about the guitar compatibility anyway.

I was mentioning the fact that the six axis controllers don't work because the GH3 guitar shows up in rockband as one.

zerogeo3
12-12-2007, 02:03 AM
:eek:
I hope they are trying to release it, and a little info couldnt hurt. Even a speculated release date. I am mad because the last time we were told about the patch HMXSean said it was going live that day. He should have really said going live soon. Since he and harmonix did not deliver on their statement, I don't think an explanation is too much too ask for. All I'm looking for is some info. Without info or an explanation everything seems kinda shady.

A little info could hurt alot, espically if Lawyers are involved, it could ruin any chances of a patch ever being released....:eek: These guys have been great when it comes to information, give them time, and I am sure when they can they will....

will_c_75
12-12-2007, 02:30 AM
if the patch doesnt work or will never come to existance they should work out a trade your ghiii guitar for one of the strats i would do it.

Aldous
12-12-2007, 09:42 AM
Problem solved. I bought a bundle edition and returned the unopened copy of the game to the store using my standalone receipt.