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mastergamer1231
12-10-2007, 07:44 AM
I heard there is a new bass pedal thats thicker, if u have one, or if there is one, plz send pic :cool:
ixFatalDeathxi
12-10-2007, 07:46 AM
I heard there is a new bass pedal thats thicker, if u have one, or if there is one, plz send pic :cool:
I heard that if you wear socks and not shoes it's less likely to break.
Micker
12-10-2007, 07:54 AM
I got a replacement drum set and the kick pedal looks exactly the same to me. The problem is that most of the pressure lies in a weak area, in the middle of the pedal. They need to reenforce this area of change the design a bit.
Highlandlassie
12-10-2007, 08:23 AM
I heard that if you wear socks and not shoes it's less likely to break.
The pedals are inherantly poorly designed.
Shoes or no shoes, eventually it is gong to break.
Reinforce it before it does.
krycek76
12-10-2007, 08:26 AM
I was playing in only socks and it cracked on the side, I've already called for a replacement and hope that it doesn't break completely before I get the new one
NattyLight
12-10-2007, 08:51 AM
I got a replacement drum set and the kick pedal looks exactly the same to me. The problem is that most of the pressure lies in a weak area, in the middle of the pedal. They need to reenforce this area of change the design a bit.
The problem is that you're playing it wrong. The pedal was designed so that most of the pressure would come from the front of you foot right on the spring.
Lareden
12-10-2007, 11:31 AM
The problem is that you're playing it wrong. The pedal was designed so that most of the pressure would come from the front of you foot right on the spring.
Yep. I noticed this the most when I played without shoes. If you put pressure anywhere but the top, it will bend. Try this at home kids! Or not... you might break your pedal.
SoKGiX
12-10-2007, 11:31 AM
I heard that if you wear socks and not shoes it's less likely to break.
just broke mine 2 minutes ago barefooted. not the case. i play real drums (decently) and i was playin this with just the balls of my feet.
the problem is that weak pt at the bottom of the pedal. no matter how u play it, everytime that bass pedal is pushed in, it is stressing that weak spot every single time.
these things are bound to give out eventually on everyone.
Frederf
12-10-2007, 11:53 AM
just broke mine 2 minutes ago barefooted. not the case. i play real drums (decently) and i was playin this with just the balls of my feet.
Give him credit. It can be more likely to break if you have shoes on and yet still break if you don't have shoes on.
That's like refuting the following claim as false: "A driver that has been drinking is more likely to cause an accident." because you just hit a tree while sober.
SoKGiX
12-10-2007, 12:13 PM
true, that extra weight surely stresses the pedal faster than none.
Ldog12395
12-10-2007, 12:15 PM
what about if you play with your heel which was how i was taught? should i just reinforce the back end of the pedal with duct tape or just get a new bass pedal and do the pushbutton?
Tarzanman
12-10-2007, 03:31 PM
The material the pedal is made out of (cheap polyethylene is my guess) is just too weak.
The kick is 100% an under-designed POS that will eventually break on you if you play Rock Band regularly at all.
If you need proof for your own eyes, then pick your pedal up and press the top of it down with your hand.... if you look closely then you can see the entire pedal bend as the spring pushes back on it.
Bending plastic = cracking plastic = breaking plastic.... just a matter of time. There is no way that HMX didn't know this ahead of time. If you watch some of the RB videos on the game disc (designing the drums) then you can see the pedal bending when one guy uses his hands to push it down.
Reinforcing the pedal with thick enough metal to prevent bending/flexing BEFORE you have a problem is the best way to do it.
Admiralwiggin
12-10-2007, 03:49 PM
seeing as the pedal has reinforcing plastic struts that run underneath it would filling the voids between them contribute to a stronger pedal or just create new stress points
Alpha01SZ
12-10-2007, 05:13 PM
My drum pedal did break also, so I decided to do some surgery! I found some cement for plastic models and used a sewing needle. I dipped the sewing needle into the glue and put the needle in the cracks of the broken plastic. Then I covered the top and bottom of the crack with the cement. I let it sit for a night, seemed to do fine, so I decided on extra reinforcement. I found some super glue and added some of that in the cracks and let it dry throughout the day. Now that both are dry it's surprisingly stable, for now. I'm not confident it will last very long, so my question is, where can I go to get a replacement for the drum pedal?
SoKGiX
12-10-2007, 06:36 PM
The material the pedal is made out of (cheap polyethylene is my guess) is just too weak.
The kick is 100% an under-designed POS that will eventually break on you if you play Rock Band regularly at all.
If you need proof for your own eyes, then pick your pedal up and press the top of it down with your hand.... if you look closely then you can see the entire pedal bend as the spring pushes back on it.
Bending plastic = cracking plastic = breaking plastic.... just a matter of time. There is no way that HMX didn't know this ahead of time. If you watch some of the RB videos on the game disc (designing the drums) then you can see the pedal bending when one guy uses his hands to push it down.
Reinforcing the pedal with thick enough metal to prevent bending/flexing BEFORE you have a problem is the best way to do it.
i agree 100%. i didn't think my pedal was having any problems, but it snapped earlier today.
all that reinforcement (trusses on the underside) didn't even come into play; it snapped where the heel connects to the metal rod. it's also unfixable, no way to reinforce this exact spot. the heel connects with like a 1mm thick piece of plastic. when you're pushing the pedal in, all the stress from the spring pushing up underneath goes to that spot.
sooner or later, whenever you get to the point where your playing quick double bass notes, its gonna give. reinforce it asap.
Conner Malvecino
12-10-2007, 06:40 PM
sooner or later, whenever you get to the point where your playing quick double bass notes, its gonna give. reinforce it asap.
I'm getting my replacement, hopefully by Wednesday...what's the best way to reinforce the area of the pedal without having to buy one of those steel plates that someone was selling on ebay?
MartyMcFly
12-11-2007, 12:46 AM
I'm waiting for my replacement as well. And I can vouch that it doesn't matter if you only use the ball of your foot or no shoes or anything.
As someone said, pressure is put on that weak spot everytime the pedal is pushed down. I always always played in socks, AND I played the "wrong way" by keeping my foot down, and bringing my whole foot up and back down to press the pedal. I didn't lift with my ankle. When you do lift with your ankle, it actually puts even more pressure on this weak spot too. Trust me.
So it doesn't matter how you play, or what footwear you use, the pedal will inevitably break after my hours of use on at least Medium difficulty.
So that's my story.
macafied
12-11-2007, 01:27 AM
The problem is that you're playing it wrong. The pedal was designed so that most of the pressure would come from the front of you foot right on the spring.
That's how I play it. Mine broke right across the orange line on the pedal. It doesn't matter how you play it, it will break eventually unless you have a seriously light touch.
Jinky Williams
12-11-2007, 03:58 AM
"unless you have a seriously light touch."
Which is no way for rock drums to be played.
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