Confessions of a music listener

[Buffdog18]

Okay, just to get this out of the way.

I like Nickelback, Linkin Park, and Green Day.

Flame away so I don't have to deal with it later on in the year.

[afterstasis]

i can ignore any difference in tastes we may have...

i'm not sure i can ignore this thread that would have been perfectly fine in the "randomly crap out your opinions thread". :)

[Buffdog18]

Good point, lol

[Gowienczyk]

We all make mistakes in early music life. ;)

[Buffdog18]

We all make mistakes in early music life. ;)

True, I am only 14

[Onslaught_fei]

We all make mistakes in early music life. ;)

Its true. I liked Van Halen once.

[McGerkey]

We all make mistakes in early music life. ;)

Speak for yourself! I always liked nice things.

[Cpt. Overkill]

We all make mistakes in early music life. ;)

I used to like 50 Cent, Nickelback, and anything else on the radio. I want to go back five years and beat the crap out of my former self.

[MronoC]

I used to listen to Slipknot and still enjoy a few songs, which apparently the worst possible travesty for a music fan. We all have our guilty pleasures.

[Mystlyfe77]

I used to listen to Slipknot and still enjoy a few songs, which apparently the worst possible travesty for a music fan. We all have our guilty pleasures.

HEATHEN!a

[NormanCoxwell]

Honestly in real life a confession would probably be the fact I like the Yeah Yeah Yeahs. Actually that'd be a definite confession. Also I doubt anyone knows I listen to punk. Well whatever.

Also a confession as of now, Green Day's not that bad. Not ipod worthy but not bad. Also No Doubts pretty decent.

[polishdog90]

I at one point in time knew every lyric to every song on N*Sync's first album. Pop music was very appealing to me when I was younger. I will still sing along to The Spice Girls, Lou Bega, Third Eye Blind, Sugar Ray, or any of the other groups whose videos I used to love to watch on MTV. Those songs are nostalgic to me and I wouldn't trade my liking of them for the songs that I like now. Those songs were appropriate for me at that time in my life and they were just the beginning of my musical journey.

[Julio_Strikes_Back]

I at one point in time knew every lyric to every song on N*Sync's first album. Pop music was very appealing to me when I was younger. I will still sing along to The Spice Girls, Lou Bega, Third Eye Blind, Sugar Ray, or any of the other groups whose videos I used to love to watch on MTV. Those songs are nostalgic to me and I wouldn't trade my liking of them for the songs that I like now. Those songs were appropriate for me at the time in my life and they were just the beginning of my musical journey.

this^ I remember waiting for my dad to get home and would watch MTV for hours

[Evilbottom]

I used to like Dragonforce and Linkin Park. Then I started listening to music.

[yaniv297]

You'll get over that

[Lolicat]

Uh, as in another thread, I like t.A.T.u. enough to have their full discog. Generally all those sorts of groups/artists appeal to me, I've got Alizee's debut too. Probably the least expected thing from me though is my huge dance/baile funk concession. I just love it all at a party.

[afterstasis]

list of artists mentioned in this thread that i enjoy to some degree

van halen
yeah yeah yeahs
spice girls
third eye blind
t.A.T.u.

and i can think of many things worse than dragonforce and no doubt.

[Soror_YZBL]

I used to listen to Slipknot and still enjoy a few songs, which apparently the worst possible travesty for a music fan. We all have our guilty pleasures.

at least it's not those clowns.

[Soror_YZBL]

list of artists mentioned in this thread that i enjoy to some degree

van halen
yeah yeah yeahs
spice girls
third eye blind
t.A.T.u.

and i can think of many things worse than dragonforce and no doubt.

I'll give you three and a half out of the five. :)

[Lolicat]

O yea, also An Cafe, Malice Mizer, those Japanese sorts of bands that weeaboos love. Just whacked a bit on there now and I'm remembering how much I love it.

[Fragory123]

Slipknot is my favorite band. No sarcasm intended. I'm serious.

[Lolicat]

Slipknot is my favorite band. No sarcasm intended. I'm serious.

gtfo u muss b jokin

[Fragory123]

gtfo u muss b jokin

Nope. I've just never understood why they get so much sh*t thrown at them. I find them to be moderatley skilled musicians. And though I know they aren't the best band in the world (there are thousands better), they just happen to be my favorite.

But don't worry, I like A LOT of better bands. Stolen Babies are my second favorite, and Mastodon clocks in at third.

[Lolicat]

Not one for cabaret-styled stuff, but definately better than binman-styled stuff...

[Fragory123]

Not one for cabaret-styled stuff, but definately better than binman-styled stuff...

I have a favorite band in every subgenre of metal. :)

[Buffdog18]

When people say they started to listen to music, I LOVE Rush, Maiden, Metallica and many more.

So its not like I haven't discovered good music.

Also my uncle's favorite band is Slipknot

[Gowienczyk]

Also my uncle's favorite band is Slipknot

and my niece (she's 24, I think?) adores KoRn and so forth, your point?

[Fizzeler]

I have a favorite band in every subgenre of metal. :)

really what about Progressive Technical Death Metal?

[DeadPhoenix223]

my best friend likes Nickelback and Green Day. I decided to just not argue he said that Nickelback = Better than Metallica and Megadeth combined. i was like What the furk. and he was like "because Nickelback doesnt have 8 minute songs" I was like "thats what makes good songs" so we just gave up.

[supernova1324]

my best friend likes Nickelback and Green Day. I decided to just not argue he said that Nickelback = Better than Metallica and Megadeth combined. i was like What the furk. and he was like "because Nickelback doesnt have 8 minute songs" I was like "thats what makes good songs" so we just gave up.

A song that is long is not automatically good and a song that is short is not automatically bad.

[ROCKBANDFANATIC7526]

really what about Progressive Technical Death Metal?

You don't mention anything prog. related any chance you get? :rolleyes:

[Mega-Tallica]

One band I confess that I listen to is Avenged Sevenfold.

[sonicnerd23]

The artist with the most albums in my iTunes is Kiss.

[ROCKBANDFANATIC7526]

The artist with the most albums in my iTunes is Kiss.

Mines The Beatles, so?

[Gowienczyk]

Mine's probably The Beach Boys.

[Fizzeler]

Flower Kings although Fates Warning and Zappa are tied for second in terms of amount of albums

[ROCKBANDFANATIC7526]

I own 9 Beatles albums, like it matters.

[franticfish]

Mine's Zappa then Death and Electric Wizard tied.

[Gowienczyk]

I own 9 Beatles albums, like it matters.

Don't they have like 11?

[Fizzeler]

Mine's probably The Beach Boys.

How many out of curiosity?

[Cubecubed]

The artist with the most albums in my iTunes is Kiss.

Pink floyd is tops in mine, with a whopping 38. :D

[Mega-Tallica]

Rush is my top artist on my ipod with 23 albums.

[Fragory123]

really what about Progressive Technical Death Metal?

Scarve, from France. ;) Though they are more on the technical side than progressive. They have a few progressive elements though.

[franticfish]

Scarve, from France. ;) Though they are more on the technical side than progressive. They have a few progressive elements though.
Good band :)

[Buffdog18]

Iron Maiden tops mine, with 15 albums!

[Fragory123]

My iTunes is bathed in Nine Inch Nails, mostly because I have all of their albums and singles.

[neckermanncj]

i have 15 Cure albums and 15 Sonic Youth albums :)

[willdabeast21]

I quite enjoy Eminem, as well as some Black Eyed Peas
I also like the NWA, and some other old-school hip hop groups

There, I said it

[MronoC]

I also like the NWA, and some other old-school hip hop groups

There, I said it

:confused: I don't see why that's anything to be ashamed of

[Fragory123]

I quite enjoy Eminem, as well as some Black Eyed Peas
I also like the NWA, and some other old-school hip hop groups

There, I said it

The Black Eyed Peas I can see. But Eminem is pretty good.

[Buffdog18]

Eminem too, he is really good.

[Fragory123]

Also, I enjoy listening to Paramore and Avenged Sevenfold.

[Buffdog18]

Avenged Sevenfold is also good.

[ImHotterThanYou]

I listened to Michael Jackson.......BEFORE he died.

[tridentgum0]

I listened to Michael Jackson.......BEFORE he died.

That makes you awesome. MJ is the king, his music is great. Now if you just lost the LZ fanboyism...

[ImHotterThanYou]

That makes you awesome. MJ is the king, his music is great. Now if you just lost the LZ fanboyism...
What do you mean?
Zeppelin is a great rock band! I have been in love with them since my dad showed me his old records last year. Before that I was into people like Britney Spears and Justin Timberlake but now its all classic music from the 60s-90s for me =).

[Squaretriangles]

What do you mean?
Zeppelin is a great rock band! I have been in love with them since my dad showed me his old records last year. Before that I was into people like Britney Spears and Justin Timberlake but now its all classic music from the 60s-90s for me =).

Classic music being.....?

[tridentgum0]

What do you mean?
Zeppelin is a great rock band! I have been in love with them since my dad showed me his old records last year. Before that I was into people like Britney Spears and Justin Timberlake but now its all classic music from the 60s-90s for me =).

There's a difference between a fan and a fanboy. You're a fanboy.

[ImHotterThanYou]

Classic music being.....?

1. The Beatles
2. Elvis Presley
3. James Brown
4. Rolling Stones
5. Bob Dylan
6. Chuck Berry
7. The Who
8. Led Zeppelin
9. Stevie Wonder
10. Jimi Hendrix
11. Ray Charles
12. The Beach Boys
13. Pink Floyd
14. Aretha Franklin
15. Little Richard
16. Marvin Gaye
17. Bruce Springsteen
18. David Bowie
19. Fats Domino
20. Black Sabbath
21. Queen
22. Buddy Holly
23. Bob Marley
24. Sam Cooke
25. Elton John
26. Neil Young
27. U2
28. The Doors
29. Run-D.M.C.
30. Bo Diddley
31. Jerry Lee Lewis
32. B.B. King
33. Sly & The Family Stone
34. The Clash
35. Prince
36. The Grateful Dead
37. The Velvet Underground
38. Nirvana
39. Michael Jackson
40. The Supremes
41. The Temptations
42. Madonna
43. Public Enemy
44. The Kinks
45. Otis Redding
46. The Everly Brothers
47. Van Halen
48. Elvis Costello
49. Simon & Garfunkel
50. Cream
51. Frank Zappa
52. Roy Orbison
53. Eric Clapton
54. George Clinton & Parliament/Funkadelic
55. The Allman Brothers Band
56. Janis Joplin
57. The Ramones
58. Crosby, Stills, & Nash (& Young)
59. Fleetwood Mac
60. AC/DC
61. The Byrds
62. Joni Mitchell
63. The Eagles
64. Smokey Robinson & The Miracles
65. R.E.M.
66. Creedence Clearwater Revival
67. Johnny Cash
68. Van Morrison
69. Aerosmith
70. Curtis Mayfield & The Impressions
71. The Drifters
72. The Police
73. Metallica
74. Pearl Jam
75. Deep Purple
76. Bill Haley & His Comets
77. The Band
78. Santana
79. Yes
80. Jefferson Airplane
81. King Crimson
82. Al Green
83. The Isley Brothers
84. The Moody Blues
85. The Sex Pistols
86. N.W.A.
87. Talking Heads
88. Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers
89. Billy Joel
90. The Bee Gees
91. The Yardbirds
92. The Four Tops
93. Radiohead
94. Patti Smith
95. Guns N' Roses
96. Chicago
97. Rush
98. Bob Seger & The Silver Bullet Band
99. Rick Nelson
100. Earth, Wind, & Fire

[tridentgum0]

There is good current music, you know. Just not what you see on MTV and stuff like that. But good god you have great taste by that list, scratch Radiohead, they suck.

[ImHotterThanYou]

There's a difference between a fan and a fanboy. You're a fanboy.
No I'm just a regular fan. Im definitely not a fanboy, im not even a male.

[Fragory123]

No I'm just a regular fan. Im definitely not a fanboy, im not even a male.

Fine, then you're a fangirl. Same thing. Maybe if you talked a bit about the other bands on that list and stopped giving so much support to one band, you would be taken a bit more seriously. You need to share the love.

Seriously though, every artist you listed is awesome.

[ImHotterThanYou]

Fine, then you're a fangirl. Same thing. Maybe if you talked a bit about the other bands on that list and stopped giving so much support to one band, you would be taken a bit more seriously. You need to share the love.
Musically I prefer listening Led Zeppelin more than every other artist on that list. I know there not the best or the most important but everyone is allowed to have their favorite. I am the worlds biggest zeppelin fan out of the people born a decade after their break-up (90s).

[Refero]

ImHotterThanYou, I (http://www.last.fm/music/Coffin+Break) see (http://www.last.fm/music/Screaming+Trees)you (http://www.last.fm/music/Gruntruck)like (http://www.last.fm/music/Mudhoney)Nirvana. :)

[Alright_Computer]

1. The Beatles
2. Elvis Presley
3. James Brown
4. Rolling Stones
5. Bob Dylan
6. Chuck Berry
7. The Who
8. Led Zeppelin
9. Stevie Wonder
10. Jimi Hendrix
11. Ray Charles
12. The Beach Boys
13. Pink Floyd
14. Aretha Franklin
15. Little Richard
16. Marvin Gaye
17. Bruce Springsteen
18. David Bowie
19. Fats Domino
20. Black Sabbath
21. Queen
22. Buddy Holly
23. Bob Marley
24. Sam Cooke
25. Elton John
26. Neil Young
27. U2
28. The Doors
29. Run-D.M.C.
30. Bo Diddley
31. Jerry Lee Lewis
32. B.B. King
33. Sly & The Family Stone
34. The Clash
35. Prince
36. The Grateful Dead
37. The Velvet Underground
38. Nirvana
39. Michael Jackson
40. The Supremes
41. The Temptations
42. Madonna
43. Public Enemy
44. The Kinks
45. Otis Redding
46. The Everly Brothers
47. Van Halen
48. Elvis Costello
49. Simon & Garfunkel
50. Cream
51. Frank Zappa
52. Roy Orbison
53. Eric Clapton
54. George Clinton & Parliament/Funkadelic
55. The Allman Brothers Band
56. Janis Joplin
57. The Ramones
58. Crosby, Stills, & Nash (& Young)
59. Fleetwood Mac
60. AC/DC
61. The Byrds
62. Joni Mitchell
63. The Eagles
64. Smokey Robinson & The Miracles
65. R.E.M.
66. Creedence Clearwater Revival
67. Johnny Cash
68. Van Morrison
69. Aerosmith
70. Curtis Mayfield & The Impressions
71. The Drifters
72. The Police
73. Metallica
74. Pearl Jam
75. Deep Purple
76. Bill Haley & His Comets
77. The Band
78. Santana
79. Yes
80. Jefferson Airplane
81. King Crimson
82. Al Green
83. The Isley Brothers
84. The Moody Blues
85. The Sex Pistols
86. N.W.A.
87. Talking Heads
88. Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers
89. Billy Joel
90. The Bee Gees
91. The Yardbirds
92. The Four Tops
93. Radiohead
94. Patti Smith
95. Guns N' Roses
96. Chicago
97. Rush
98. Bob Seger & The Silver Bullet Band
99. Rick Nelson
100. Earth, Wind, & Fire

The fact that the majority, if not the entirety, of this list is lifted from Rolling Stone's "Greatest Artists of All Time" is interesting. It may not be intentional, but still.

Edit: Double-checked, and it's not directly copied from the list, but it has some pretty striking similarities. Good list, by the way, especially King Crimson, James Brown, and Bowie. (!)

[Jixzer]

OP, don't let anybody tell you what you should or shouldn't like. Anybody that does that is an a-hole.

Me, I like what I like and make no excuses for it. You don't like it? I don't really care.

[MronoC]

The fact that the majority, if not the entirety, of this list is lifted from Rolling Stone's "Greatest Artists of All Time" is interesting. It may not be intentional, but still. Have you considered digging deeper into each genre? Good list, by the way, especially King Crimson (!).

Edit: Double-checked, and it's not directly from the list, but it has some similarities, I guess.

It is a shockingly similar list, but she loses a few points by omitting Howlin' Wolf and Tina Turner

[Mystlyfe77]

What do you mean?
Zeppelin is a great rock band! I have been in love with them since my dad showed me his old records last year. Before that I was into people like Britney Spears and Justin Timberlake but now its all classic music from the 60s-90s for me =).

Since when did the 90s become "classic." Since when did everything before the 60s stop being "classic?" Pigeonholing music because of the year it was made in is purely stupid.

As you get older, you'll realize that. It's pretty evident that you're just beginning your journey into music (you confess you got your taste from your Dad less than a year ago). Hopefully you'll see soon that there is plenty of great music being produced these days, plenty of great music from before the 60s, and plenty of lesser known 60-90s bands that aren't on your list that are just as good as those.

I'm going to help start you off with some bands who have a sound in common with classic rock (and zeppelin in particular).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9C8TlVUHec
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIpzo9thmKY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cfahXQh-X8


I am the worlds biggest zeppelin fan out of the people born a decade after their break-up (90s).

Oh really? Which member of the band was obsessed with Aleister Crowley?

[metalhead27]

We all make mistakes in early music life. ;)

Ain't that the truth. :o

[Azatos]

True, I am only 14
I'm turning 15 and most people think my taste is good.

/egostroke

[Lolicat]

As I understand it fanboy/girl applies regardless of actual gender, in this way;

Fangirl: OMG THEY'RE LIKE SO HAWT AND SO AWESOME! I TOTALLY LOVE THEM! I WANNA GET THEIR T-SHIRTS!

Fanboy: Omg, they're so awesome, they're all I listen to, and they're so much better than all modern bands/all old bands/all bands.

ie; Fanboy behaviour is more related to the music itself, and although irritating, can be vouched for. Fangirl behaviour is initiated by the artist's looks more than anything.

btw, I'm a total fangirl for a lot of artists, so I shouldn't even be *****ing.

[Soror_YZBL]

As I understand it fanboy/girl applies regardless of actual gender, in this way;

Fangirl: OMG THEY'RE LIKE SO HAWT AND SO AWESOME! I TOTALLY LOVE THEM! I WANNA GET THEIR T-SHIRTS!

Fanboy: Omg, they're so awesome, they're all I listen to, and they're so much better than all modern bands/all old bands/all bands.

ie; Fanboy behaviour is more related to the music itself, and although irritating, can be vouched for. Fangirl behaviour is initiated by the artist's looks more than anything.

btw, I'm a total fangirl for a lot of artists, so I shouldn't even be *****ing.

Sexist pig.

[Lolicat]

Sexist pig.

<3

[instantdeath999]

Confessions of a Shopaholic...

... not gouging my eyes out 5 minutes into that movie proves I have more will than I've ever known.

[ImHotterThanYou]

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Oh really? Which member of the band was obsessed with Aleister Crowley?

Page, he owned Boleskine House in Scotland for almost 20 years. He only bought the house though because he was planning to try a ritual. If you watch the movie The Song Remains The Same you can see Page running in around the back of it at midnight during the dazed and confused solo.

[ImHotterThanYou]

Since when did the 90s become "classic." Since when did everything before the 60s stop being "classic?" Pigeonholing music because of the year it was made in is purely stupid.

As you get older, you'll realize that. It's pretty evident that you're just beginning your journey into music (you confess you got your taste from your Dad less than a year ago). Hopefully you'll see soon that there is plenty of great music being produced these days, plenty of great music from before the 60s, and plenty of lesser known 60-90s bands that aren't on your list that are just as good as those.


IMO I think that the classic rock era began with The Beatles and ended with Nirvana. Thats why I said 60s-90s.

[instantdeath999]

IMO I think that the classic rock era began with The Beatles and ended with Nirvana. Thats why I said 60s-90s.

Some people consider "rock and roll" artists like Elvis or Chuck Berry classic rock, but I guess that's a matter of opinion.

[Hungryfreak]

IMO I think that the classic rock era began with The Beatles and ended with Nirvana. Thats why I said 60s-90s.

You can't really say that the classic rock era 'ends' since whatever's new now will be classic in a number of years. And what Instantdeath said.

[afterstasis]

Some people consider "rock and roll" artists like Elvis or Chuck Berry classic rock, but I guess that's a matter of opinion.

i definitely do, but then i've stated several times that i only consider classic rock one of two things...
a radio format or simply a statement of rock music that is classic (both of which would definitely imply mr berry and presley's inclusion).

[ImHotterThanYou]

You can't really say that the classic rock era 'ends' since whatever's new now will be classic in a number of years. And what Instantdeath said.
Sure, but it is possible the same way classical music is still considered to be artists like Beethoven and stuff even though there are many years in between that could also be considered classical. Like you wouldnt call Sinatra classical. The classic rock tag could stick to artists like The Beatles, stones and zep forever just like the classcial tag has for beethoven, mozart and those other guys.

[Hungryfreak]

Sure, but it is possible the same way classical music is still considered to be artists like Beethoven and stuff even though there are many years in between that could also be considered classical. Like you wouldnt call Sinatra classical. The classic rock tag could stick to artists like The Beatles, stones and zep forever just like the classcial tag has for beethoven, mozart and those other guys.

Except that the classical you refer to is a specific genre that distinguishes itself from others while there's no actual difference between rock and classic rock aside from age.

[ImHotterThanYou]

Except that the classical you refer to is a specific genre that distinguishes itself from others while there's no actual difference between rock and classic rock aside from age.Plenty of people since the days of beethoven have done music that fit directly into that genre but those artists still dont get the classical tag.

[instantdeath999]

There are actually some modern musicians who still make "classical" music, while you rarely hear of a new band making classic rock (unless they are classic rock imitators).

[Hungryfreak]

Plenty of people since the days of beethoven have done music that fit directly into that genre but those artists still dont get the classical tag.

Gustav Holst composed in the 20th century and his music's considered classical.

[Soror_YZBL]

Sure, but it is possible the same way classical music is still considered to be artists like Beethoven and stuff even though there are many years in between that could also be considered classical. Like you wouldnt call Sinatra classical. The classic rock tag could stick to artists like The Beatles, stones and zep forever just like the classcial tag has for beethoven, mozart and those other guys.

No, classical music is music from the neo-classical period, which means it was inspired by the classical period of ancient Greece. It has a lot of symmetry, and favors light, simple melodies over the overly complex baroque period that preceded it. They used dynamics and movements to add depth, instead of wanking counterpoints.

Beatles are brit-pop. Stones are blues rock. Zep is ass. Classic rock is a phrase used mostly by the same people who believe the world is 6000 years old and that budweiser is an acceptable lunch.

[ImHotterThanYou]

Gustav Holst composed in the 20th century and his music's considered classical.But almost everyone who hears the term classical music they think of people like Beethoven and Mozart not the other people who have done it. Thats how I think The Beatles, Zep, and the Stones will be remember only with the term classic rock.

[Hungryfreak]

Actually, there are many fans of Holst's work out there. The Planets is a very well-known composition. When I think of classical, his name certainly comes to mind.

Classic rock is nothing but an era and as long as rock continues to live, the classic rock era will grow. In 10-20 years, Radiohead will probably be considered classic rock.

[Soror_YZBL]

Gustav Holst composed in the 20th century and his music's considered classical.

Not by most musical historians. The classical period was a specific time. Modern orchestral music frequently gets called "classical", but it's really quite different than classical. Holst is more of a modernist.

[Gowienczyk]

Wait, we are arguing that classic rock is more than a radio format now? Wat?

[Hungryfreak]

Not by most musical historians. The classical period was a specific time. Modern orchestral music frequently gets called "classical", but it's really quite different than classical. Holst is more of a modernist.

If you're going by period, yes. I have not heard another term used to describe the general genre, though, other than classical. If there is, then I will retract my statement.

[ImHotterThanYou]

Actually, there are many fans of Holst's work out there. The Planets is a very well-known composition. When I think of classical, his name certainly comes to mind.

Classic rock is nothing but an era and as long as rock continues to live, the classic rock era will grow. In 10-20 years, Radiohead will probably be considered classic rock.Im not talking about YOU. Im talking about majority. If you asked most people about classical music they probably could only name Beethoven, Mozart and maybe someone else. I think that in a very long time when people think of classic rock they will think beatles, zep, stones.

[Hungryfreak]

I don't think that fits in with your argument. At that point, it goes back to classic rock as a radio format and the bands that were imprisoned with that term.

[Soror_YZBL]

If you're going by period, yes. I have not heard another term used to describe the general genre, though, other than classical. If there is, then I will retract my statement.

Orchestral, or symphonic. :)

[Soror_YZBL]

Im not talking about YOU. Im talking about majority. If you asked most people about classical music they probably could only name Beethoven, Mozart and maybe someone else. I think that in a very long time when people think of classic rock they will think beatles, zep, stones.

If I ask anyone I know about classical music, they'd probably be able to name about 30 off the tops of their heads. Then again, I don't associate with "special people".

[Hungryfreak]

Orchestral, or symphonic. :)

I was thinking that, though I don't think it can apply to all in the genre, like "Fur Elise" and such.

[Alright_Computer]

Sure, but it is possible the same way classical music is still considered to be artists like Beethoven and stuff even though there are many years in between that could also be considered classical. Like you wouldnt call Sinatra classical. The classic rock tag could stick to artists like The Beatles, stones and zep forever just like the classcial tag has for beethoven, mozart and those other guys.

If you want to get technical, the majority of what we'd call classical music today is either from the baroque or neoclassical movements, i.e. not true classics. The "true" classic period is from ancient Greek and Roman times. I'm sure the people in the 17th-19th centuries didn't to call the music of their time period "classical", instead using the term for the music from the Greeks and Romans. However, the term classical in music today pretty much obscures all mention of the Greeks and Romans and instead usually refers to music from the baroque and neoclassical time periods even though the people who actually lived in the time period would never call their music classical at all.

It's the same deal here, except on a smaller scale. In 10-20 years, I'll be surprised if the term "classic rock" doesn't refer to stuff like Creed, Oasis, Counting Crows, Green Day, and so on. It works in cycles. Classic rock radio essentially plays music that's at least 15-20 years old, so it won't be long before those bands make their way onto regular classic rock radio rotation.

Classic rock is essentially a radio format assigned to the demographic of middle aged people who believe that the music of their time is truly the best music out there and that all music made after they turned 21 is completely worthless. As the current generation of 20-somethings gets older, the music that the classic rock stations play gets newer and newer. 10 years ago, you would've never heard Nirvana, REM, or Pearl Jam on classic rock radio. 20 years ago, you would've never heard Motley Crue, U2, or Poison on classic rock radio. 30 years ago, you would've never heard Rush or Boston on classic rock radio. But yet every one of these bands has made its way onto regular rotation on classic rock stations throughout the country.

Just wait 20 years, I'm sure that classic rock radio will play the music of today on their stations. Then we'll see if you like it or not.

[ImHotterThanYou]

I don't think that fits in with your argument. At that point, it goes back to classic rock as a radio format and the bands that were imprisoned with that term.Well In hundreds of years the mainstream public will still think of Hendrix when they here greatest guitarist. They will still associate Einstein will Genius even though there have been more before and after him. They still think of Beethoven and Mozart when classical music comes up and not that guy you were talking about. People will still say 2pac was the best rapper to ever live. People will still think of Hitler when they here horrible person or Nazi's and they will also group him with that and The Beatles, Zep and Stones will constantly grouped and remembered as classic rock and just rock in general. The Beatles also will be very well remember by the hysteria that surrounded them. All of these people/groups will be remembered for the social impact they had on the MAINSTREAM. Sure Ywgnie Malmsteem/Steve Vai/Satriani/whoever may be able to play circles around Hendrix and sure some modern bands may be better than the classic ones, But they wont be remebered cause they made no impact on the mainstream most people have not even heard of them.

[Gowienczyk]

Mainstream Media is the reason why popular contemporary music is deteriorating y'know.

[Cubecubed]

It's the same deal here, except on a smaller scale. In 10-20 years, I'll be surprised if the term "classic rock" doesn't refer to stuff like Creed, Oasis, Counting Crows, Green Day, and so on. It works in cycles. Classic rock radio essentially plays music that's at least 15-20 years old, so it won't be long before those bands make their way onto regular classic rock radio rotation.
.

I heard "Under the Bridge" by the Chili peppers on a classic rock station yesterday,actually.

[Hungryfreak]

Well In hundreds of years the mainstream public will still think of Hendrix when they here greatest guitarist. They will still associate Einstein will Genius even though there have been more before and after him. They still think of Beethoven and Mozart when classical music comes up and not that guy you were talking about. People will still say 2pac was the best rapper to ever live. People will still think of Hitler when they here horrible person or Nazi's and they will also group him with that and The Beatles, Zep and Stones will constantly grouped and remembered as classic rock and just rock in general. The Beatles also will be very well remember by the hysteria that surrounded them. All of these people/groups will be remembered for the social impact they had on the MAINSTREAM. Sure Ywgnie Malmsteem/Steve Vai/Satriani/whoever may be able to play circles around Hendrix and sure some modern bands may be better than the classic ones, But they wont be remebered cause they made no impact on the mainstream most people have not even heard of them.

All irrelevant to your main point.


IMO I think that the classic rock era began with The Beatles and ended with Nirvana. Thats why I said 60s-90s.

(I need to read up more on classical so I can embarrass myself with pride in the future)

[ImHotterThanYou]

Mainstream Media is the reason why popular contemporary music is deteriorating y'know.
Yes, when most people look back at this decade they wont think of any of the rock bands in it. Mainly because none of them were really that big. People will think of Beyonce, Kanye West, 50 Cent, Lil Wayne, Britney Spears and any other artist really popular pop/r&b/rap artist not Radiohead or any other band. Like when people think of the 80s they mainly think Mj and Madonna not Megadeth and Metallica. Rock n Roll was the most popular form of music of the 20th century. I guranteed it wont have that title for the 21st century. Ever since the late 90s rap/r&b have pretty much taken over the mainstream. It's a sad thing =(

[Soror_YZBL]

Well In hundreds of years the mainstream public will still think of Hendrix when they here greatest guitarist.

They don't say that now. See the end.


They will still associate Einstein will Genius even though there have been more before and after him.

I hope not, because that will mean that there have been no significant scientific advancements since Einstein. Personally, I always think of Stephen Hawking, but I'm go-go the science girl, I care about these things.


They still think of Beethoven and Mozart when classical music comes up and not that guy you were talking about.

Probably.


People will still say 2pac was the best rapper to ever live.

No one has *ever* said that. Who the hell says that? 2pac's Mom? I mean, he's good, but seriously, no one says that. None. zero.


People will still think of Hitler when they here horrible person or Nazi's

They say terrorist now to mean a horrible person. Nazi means someone who tries to tell you can or cannot do, i.e. grammar nazi, soup nazi. Know-it-all music nazi. I like that last one. I have an eighth-note shaped swastika.


and they will also group him with that and The Beatles, Zep and Stones will constantly grouped and remembered as classic rock and just rock in general. The Beatles also will be very well remember by the hysteria that surrounded them. All of these people/groups will be remembered for the social impact they had on the MAINSTREAM.

No. Beatles are way too pop, they're not remotely classic rock. The only people who call the beatles classic rock are those with downs syndrome. Seriously. Next you'll say that the grateful dead is classic rock.



Sure Ywgnie Malmsteem/Steve Vai/Satriani/whoever may be able to play circles around Hendrix and sure some modern bands may be better than the classic ones, But they wont be remebered cause they made no impact on the mainstream most people have not even heard of them.

Last I checked those guys sold zillions of records and there's actually a lot more than that who *are* better than hendrix who are hugely insanely popular in the mainstream, Clapton pops to mind instantly. Your "reasoning" is not very reasonable.

[Soror_YZBL]

I was thinking that, though I don't think it can apply to all in the genre, like "Fur Elise" and such.

Yeah, I know. Piano, solo, and quartet pieces kinda screw up the whole orchestra thing, don't they.

[ImHotterThanYou]

No one has *ever* said that. Who the hell says that? 2pac's Mom? I mean, he's good, but seriously, no one says that. None. zero.



Last I checked those guys sold zillions of records and there's actually a lot more than that who *are* better than hendrix who are hugely insanely popular in the mainstream, Clapton pops to mind instantly. Your "reasoning" is not very reasonable.
Im talking about THE MAINSTREAM. If I go up to people on the street and ask them about those are guitarists most people will have no clue who they are other than clapton but he is nowhere near as big as hendrix. People continue to associate guitar with hendrix not malmsteen and that will continue much longer than those other guitarists legacies will. Also now and the 90s will be considered the classic era of rap. The artists from today will probably be considered the greatest rappers of all time even if way better ones come along. Eminem always will be considered one of the best along with B.I.G and 2Pac they both died early so their legacy will be bloated just like alot of rock legends. And obviously some people like 2pac just look at this voted list http://www.the-top-tens.com/lists/best-rapper-of-all-time.asp it's mainly contemporary rap artists from the 90s and 00s. If you look at a same list for rock there would be barely any bands from the 90s or now on there. Its pretty easy to determine the classic or "remembered" era for each form of music.

[Gowienczyk]

Hip-Hop started in 1979 so by your logic it would be the eighties that would be the classic-era of "rap".

Oh yeah, mainstream media doesn't matter. So stop using that argument.

[Alright_Computer]

I like how my post was pretty much completely ignored.


If you want to get technical, the majority of what we'd call classical music today is either from the baroque or neoclassical movements, i.e. not true classics. The "true" classic period is from ancient Greek and Roman times. I'm sure the people in the 17th-19th centuries didn't to call the music of their time period "classical", instead using the term for the music from the Greeks and Romans. However, the term classical in music today pretty much obscures all mention of the Greeks and Romans and instead usually refers to music from the baroque and neoclassical time periods even though the people who actually lived in the time period would never call their music classical at all.

It's the same deal here, except on a smaller scale. In 10-20 years, I'll be surprised if the term "classic rock" doesn't refer to stuff like Creed, Oasis, Counting Crows, Green Day, and so on. It works in cycles. Classic rock radio essentially plays music that's at least 15-20 years old, so it won't be long before those bands make their way onto regular classic rock radio rotation.

Classic rock is essentially a radio format assigned to the demographic of middle aged people who believe that the music of their time is truly the best music out there and that all music made after they turned 21 is completely worthless. As the current generation of 20-somethings gets older, the music that the classic rock stations play gets newer and newer. 10 years ago, you would've never heard Nirvana, REM, or Pearl Jam on classic rock radio. 20 years ago, you would've never heard Motley Crue, U2, or Poison on classic rock radio. 30 years ago, you would've never heard Rush or Boston on classic rock radio. But yet every one of these bands has made its way onto regular rotation on classic rock stations throughout the country.

Just wait 20 years, I'm sure that classic rock radio will play the music of today on their stations. Then we'll see if you like it or not.

[Meatwad555]

I used to listen to Slipknot and still enjoy a few songs, which apparently the worst possible travesty for a music fan. We all have our guilty pleasures.

This.

and Creed.

[Jixzer]

No. Beatles are way too pop, they're not remotely classic rock. The only people who call the beatles classic rock are those with downs syndrome. Seriously. Next you'll say that the grateful dead is classic rock.

Neither "Pop" or "Classic Rock" are genres. They're radio formats.

The Beatles are Rock, plain and simple and I've heard the Beatles countless times on many, many different "Classic Rock" stations.

The term "Pop" is too often misunderstood. All any band of any genre has to do is make the "Popular" charts, and guess what, your favorite metal/goth/country/jazz/rap band just became "Pop".

I find it funny how people bash Pop without realizing that bands they like are or could quickly become the very thing they think they detest.

[Gowienczyk]

Neither "Pop" or "Classic Rock" are genres. They're radio formats.

Pop is a genre, whether you believe it or not.

[Hungryfreak]

Pop is a genre, popular music is a radio format.

[Meatwad555]

Good thing this thread completely went off-topic!

[Gowienczyk]

This thread was kind of pointless to begin with.

[Hungryfreak]

Yeah. Didn't we have a thread like this before, anyways?

[ImHotterThanYou]

Hip-Hop started in 1979 so by your logic it would be the eighties that would be the classic-era of "rap".

Oh yeah, mainstream media doesn't matter. So stop using that argument.
No cause rock started in late forties and early fifties but I wouldnt consider that the classic era of rock and mainstream appeal matters ALOT for legacy and remembrance which is what im arguing.

[Gowienczyk]

rock started in late forties and early fifties but I wouldnt consider that the classic era of rock

Lololololol!

[benson111]

Endless argument.

[Gowienczyk]

Endless argument.

Boring, too!

[ImHotterThanYou]

Lololololol!
dont see the humor

[Meatwad555]

Endless argument.

I was trying to stay on topic. -_-

[Gowienczyk]

Because apparently the era of Chuck Berry and Bill Haley isn't classic anymore according to you, that's why it's hilarious.

[benson111]

Boring, too!

I have to agree, but I am a creep. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tv7zuDsns9w) Random...arguments (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teMlv3ripSM) are better..

[Meatwad555]

I have to agree, but I am a creep. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tv7zuDsns9w) Random...arguments (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teMlv3ripSM) are better..

But those are just contradictions!

[benson111]

But those are just contradictions!

Or......was it SPAM? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anwy2MPT5RE)

[Alright_Computer]

Monty Python >>>>>>>>>>>> everything else in this thread

[ImHotterThanYou]

Because apparently the era of Chuck Berry and Bill Haley isn't classic anymore according to you, that's why it's hilarious.

Oh well, im gonna leave for now and lock myself in my room and listen to the 1973 live version of STAIRWAY TO HEAVEN (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81eSIwsLcWg)at MSG bye-bye!

[Hungryfreak]

We need to take action! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YawagQ6lLrA)

[Evilbottom]

Oh well, im gonna leave for now and lock myself in my room and listen to the 1973 live version of STAIRWAY TO HEAVEN (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81eSIwsLcWg)at MSG bye-bye!

No stairway (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WStE470Nu4s)

[Gowienczyk]

This thread and this kid is making my day, really it is. Thanks for this thread.

[back_blows]

This thread and this kid is making my day, really it is. Thanks for this thread.

Reincarnation of zeppelin69?

[Gowienczyk]

You tell me.

[back_blows]

You tell me.

I'll say a diluted version of zeppelin69. I miss that guy:(

[Gowienczyk]

and this one is bitter.

[Evilbottom]

zeppelin69 was a god among men, full of wisdom and knowledge. This new one isn't nearly as good

[Gowienczyk]

I don't know guys, look at my shoutbox. (http://www.last.fm/user/Gowienczyk)

[back_blows]

I think she's got a thing for you Gowie.

[Gowienczyk]

Aw shucks!

[Fizzeler]

I don't know guys, look at my shoutbox. (http://www.last.fm/user/Gowienczyk)

Wow just wow

That is all that comes to mind

[Gowienczyk]

This is going in the record books, right?

[Evilbottom]

I don't know guys, look at my shoutbox. (http://www.last.fm/user/Gowienczyk)

Incredible. I also commented about how they had listened to over 2000 songs in 7 days, and they seem to think its entirely possible.

[tridentgum0]

Wow, she didn't even use the correct variant of "than" in her name.

[Gowienczyk]

Incredible. I also commented about how they had listened to over 2000 songs in 7 days, and they seem to think its entirely possible.

Iunno, depends on the song length and how much of a diehard music listener you are.

[tridentgum0]

I was amazed at how far ahead the Pixies are on your charts than second place though. :eek:

[Gowienczyk]

Well they are some of my favorite music, Trident.

[Evilbottom]

Wow, she didn't even use the correct variant of "than" in her name.

"Shut up it was purposely done for irony." is her response. Although I fail to see anything ironic / funny about it.

[back_blows]

Incredible. I also commented about how they had listened to over 2000 songs in 7 days, and they seem to think its entirely possible.

You Suffer clocks in at 1.26 seconds. Listen to that for 3 hrs straight and voila.

[LegendofRock3021]

This is going in the record books, right?

Definitely.

[JukeBoxHero]

I don't know guys, look at my shoutbox. (http://www.last.fm/user/Gowienczyk)


"shut up! you know nothing about rock music you should be ashamed of your being so unintelligent at such an old age."

Wow, oh my, anyone who is twenty is definitely old, I mean come on, that's old farts age. :p

[Gowienczyk]

I am a great uncle, afterall.

[Meatwad555]

"shut up! you know nothing about rock music you should be ashamed of your being so unintelligent at such an old age."

Wow, oh my, anyone who is twenty is definitely old, I mean come on, that's old farts age. :p

I don't think that's what she meant but ok.

[franticfish]

I don't know guys, look at my shoutbox. (http://www.last.fm/user/Gowienczyk)Wow... just wow. I'm lost for words... and what makes it worse is that she isnt down right funny like zeppelin69.

[JukeBoxHero]

I don't think that's what she meant but ok.

Maybe, but she did said at such an old age.

[ImHotterThanYou]

You people are all such horrible people.
Forget the music, you guys need to be questioning your character.

[Hungryfreak]

My character is Manny Calavera.

[back_blows]

You people are all such horrible people.
Forget the music, you guys need to be questioning your character.

I'm guessing you didn't read Gowie's sig "Music Snob Extraordinaire".

[Gowienczyk]

You people are all such horrible people.
Forget the music, you guys need to be questioning your character.

This is coming from someone who said:


shut up! you know nothing about rock music you should be ashamed of your being so unintelligent at such an old age.

I know more about rock music than you just **** off you elitist ***. All you have to do is look at my recent songs than look at yours and EVERYONE would know that I know more about music and have better tastes.

Dont take it out on me because a great band like zeppelin gets more praise than your favorites.

I think it's your maturity and character that is to be questioned with such attitude.

[JukeBoxHero]

You people are all such horrible people.
Forget the music, you guys need to be questioning your character.

I poke fun at the age comment, I see nothing wrong with that, and if I'm horrible, fine. If I am a horrible person for making such comments than I'll keep being a horrible person.

[ImHotterThanYou]

This is coming from someone who said:





I think it's your maturity and character that is to be questioned with such attitude.

None of those were personal attacks.

[Evilbottom]

Forget the music, you guys need to be questioning your character.

12th level paladin is my character

[Alright_Computer]

None of those were personal attacks.

Telling someone to "f*ck off" and calling them an "elitist f*g" isn't a personal attack?

Don't feed the trolls!

[back_blows]

None of those were personal attacks.

Hmm, I figured calling someone unintelligent was a personal attack.

[Squaretriangles]

None of those were personal attacks.

Two of those three quotes beg to differ. I think telling someone that they should be ashamed of how unintellligent they are counts as a personal attack, as does calling someone a ***.

[timmay9]

At least I took place in the shoutbox wars. I missed the stupidity. :(

[Hungryfreak]

This isn't going to end well...

[tridentgum0]

My character is some dude I threw together in the rocker creator. I beat you all.

[Squaretriangles]

EDIT: Okay, the post I was responding to just dissapeared....

Zep1969 v2.0 is the most annoying poster evar.

[Evilbottom]

This is less funny like zeppelin69 and more pathetic

[Gowienczyk]

I think this thread has outrun it's purpose, I'm done posting here. I'm not going to continue to banter between provoking the personal attacks. I don't need more drama this month, eh? Between SA Nick and Henry, I think I'm walking the line as it is.

[ImHotterThanYou]

Telling someone to "f*ck off" and calling them an "elitist f*g" isn't a personal attack?

Don't feed the trolls!
Im not a troll and I'm not arrogant, I just believe I have the greatest music taste in the world.

[hmxhenry]

Yeah, let's all take a deep breath and chillax.

"DIFFERENT PEOPLE LIKE DIFFERENT THINGS?! OH NOES!!"