How do you gain fans past the Medium cap by playing on Hard?

[Frederf]

Yadda yadda, band was under the medium cap for ages and we all stepped it up and brought the noise on Hard. We white checkmarked a set list that was orange checkmarked before and....

You have not gained any fans.

The... heck? Can someone explain to me how one gains fans whilst playing Hard past the Medium cap? I've done what the game said, what does it want from me?!

[ManOwaR]

no one on the team can be below hard.

[nivlac]

Did you go and redo a song/setlist you've already done? If so you've already earned all the fans you can in that particular place, regardless of what level you played. Play somewhere you haven't played yet and make sure everyone is playing on Hard or better.

[Frederf]

Did you go and redo a song/setlist you've already done? If so you've already earned all the fans you can in that particular place, regardless of what level you played. Play somewhere you haven't played yet and make sure everyone is playing on Hard or better.

Yes everyone of us played on Hard.

Well that's how you say... sh*t. That's like earning more money in Guitar Hero when jumping from Hard to Expert means having playing Bark at the Moon, i.e. stupid.

So I'm below this medium cap not only during most of the medium portion of the band's career but also during most of the hard career as well? I have to both go to bleeding edge set list and jump up difficulty? Hoops are one thing, but they didn't need to ring those hoops with fire.

So if I'm to get this right, the game encourages you to avoid easy set lists so you can come back later and play them on hard to get fans. Or rather to start a totally new band once our skills are up so all the setlists aren't dry wells. I could understand preventing you from milking a dead easy set list over and over dozens of times, but that was my first run through on hard!

[sporkBrigade]

Yes everyone of us played on Hard.

Well that's how you say... sh*t. That's like earning more money in Guitar Hero when jumping from Hard to Expert means having playing Bark at the Moon, i.e. stupid.

So I'm below this medium cap not only during most of the medium portion of the band's career but also during most of the hard career as well? I have to both go to bleeding edge set list and jump up difficulty? Hoops are one thing, but they didn't need to ring those hoops with fire.

So if I'm to get this right, the game encourages you to avoid easy set lists so you can come back later and play them on hard to get fans. Or rather to start a totally new band once our skills are up so all the setlists aren't dry wells. I could understand preventing you from milking a dead easy set list over and over dozens of times, but that was my first run through on hard!

Two things to make sure. One, there's a Hard cap as well, so make sure you're not at 600k fans. Second, there should be plenty of gigs left for you to play that are on the easy side. Just make sure it's a new gig and you'll be fine, whether it requires hard or not.

Last, even if you have no new gigs left that are easy, just use them for practice, and eventually you'll be able to go nail the harder stuff and get more fans. That's hard to believe that you've played through every gig up to this point, but it's certainly possible.

Either way, you really need to learn to not care about fans. It's going to be no time at all that you're capped again at 600k. At that point, every gig can be unlocked, and getting any more fans than this on expert is just for fun/pride. Don't sweat it.

[bjorn9486]

I BELIEVE you only need to get the same or more stars when you replay a song/set to gain more fans. Someone correct me if this is wrong please.

[sporkBrigade]

I BELIEVE you only need to get the same or more stars when you replay a song/set to gain more fans. Someone correct me if this is wrong please.

This is tricky for me. Been playing BWT since release day, and I've yet to repeat any gig for any reason. o.O

I guess if no one has yet, I'll test this when I get a chance. It's worth knowing.

[bjorn9486]

The only reason I say this is my friend finally kicked it up to hard on the drums (I've been playing Hard since starting) and we played songs we 5 stared. As long as we 5 stared them again, we got fans. However, on one song we got 4 when we originally got 5 and I believe it says "You have earned 0 more fans" but not the same message as when you have maxed out the fan cap an a certain difficulty.

[Frederf]

Yeah we're not at 600k fans, we're at 278,000 or something. The medium cap. We've never gained a single fan by playing hard.

We've gotten 5-stars on hard set lists so that's not it.

All our set lists available to use that haven't been completed are basically... a lot of really long sets, mystery set lists, and set lists of songs that are beyond us. Not exactly friendly to the band that has gotten the first... hmm 20-25% of the songs with any semblance of confidence.

It's not that I care about fans a lot it's more like I was previously aware that the fan system was pretty goofy but now I'm just plain surprised how screwed up it is.

The cash system has moved on from Guitar Hero's "finite well" idea in Rock Band and Rock Band is much better for it. Ideally you'd earn a little more cash the first "breakthrough" performance for each difficulty level but you do earn something each time.

Sadly not only has the fan system gone back to the "finite well" philosophy, they broke even that. In Guitar Hero you got something for beating medium and a little more for beating hard. In Rock Band you aren't rewarded for playing on Hard on a set list that you've seemingly "tapped dry" on Medium.

It'd be like 5*ing a song on Guitar Hero and never getting cash for 5*ing that same song on Expert.