Bands you're looking forward too to seeing via RBN

[Musicfreak82515]

http://www.rockband.com/forums/showthread.php?t=152203

Remember, think realistically before posting.

Oh, and negative comments *points to the door* leave 'em. Don't need to have trolls starting s**t, people getting into arguments and the thread dissolving into "This is the RBN in my opinion and I'm right about it".

I encourage you all to also support the RBN cause and email your favorite bands and share this info!

[overdriveguitarman]

We already got rise against so i am set for life

[General Lein979]

The big names will still go to the normal store but the indie stuff that normally wouldn't make the game will make the store.

[Kidmitt]

I'm looking forward to davidshek's band :)

[kiggidykev]

See the entirety of Ultimate Setlist

[acidicthought8]

Umm, any band that wanted to be on it?

[Apples]

I expect the Harmonix bands (of RB and GH bonus band fame) are going to flood the RBN with awesomeness.

[zepplinmike]

Somebody should make a large list of major bands that control their own masters and publishing so we can look at all of the possibilities.

[overdriveguitarman]

Rise against!!! :)

[zepplinmike]

I expect the Harmonix bands (of RB and GH bonus band fame) are going to flood the RBN with awesomeness.

Full Bang Camaro catalog!!!

[Kevin7]

avenged sevenfold,slipknot,disturbed,led zepplin,aerosmith,guns n roses,nickelback,shinedown

[Musicfreak82515]

Full Bang Camaro catalog!!!

Shaimus pl0x :D

[Fizzeler]

Fates Warning, Queensyrche, Spock's Beard, Dream Theater, Ayreon, and Frank Zappa :D

[notime2grieve]

I'm crossing my fingers for a full Less Than Jake discography...

Hey, it could happen?

Edit
I also wouldn't mind some:
Framing Hanley, Rev Theory, Adelita's Way, AM Taxi, Big D and The Kid's Table, The Briggs, Drive-By, Flatliners, Gaslight Anthem, Lucky Boys Confusion, Madina Lake, Rehab, Rehasher, Sick Puppies, Streetlight Manifesto, Street Dogs

[RockBandRocker]

I would HOPE this is used by the people who control the masters to:

- Led Zeppelin
- Pink Floyd
- The Smiths
- The Who
- Rush
- MUSE
- Coheed and Cambria

and others.

No reason to exclude big bands from this. If it means we can get stuff previously thought unattainable (Zeppelin and Floyd) and more content from popular artists (Rush, The Who, MUSE, Coheed and Cambria), than I'm all for it.

I really hope it leads to more full albums being made available (this concept is the one that intrigues me the most).

[Llamaaction]

I hope Nickleback doesn't get any ideas. :P

U2? Is that even possible?

[HMXEnosity]

My suggestion to everyone is if you know a band that you'd like to have in Rock Band... Tell them about the Rock Band Network.

[T-Hybrid]

I really...REALLY...REALLY think some people are getting way ahead of themselves in regards to this service.

Can anybody (including major artists) upload content? Yes.
Will anybody (including major artists) upload content? No.

As excited as I am for the service, it's mostly because I'm really looking forward to what new music can come out of it...as opposed to which classic bands are going to take matters into their own hands.

But I really think people should get their expectations out of control BEFORE the service is available so that we don't get to a point where every week there's 10-20 threads complaining about "that indie crap" that dropped on the RBN.

[Ehfahq]

Id love to see somebody like Trent Reznor get a in-house team and put the majority of his music out.

I could see somebody like him doing it.

Or Les Claypool.

[kiggidykev]

My suggestion to everyone is if you know a band that you'd like to have in Rock Band... Tell them about the Rock Band Network.

Yes! Will do!

[Ehfahq]

My suggestion to everyone is if you know a band that you'd like to have in Rock Band... Tell them about the Rock Band Network.

Ive sent out a few emails to a few of my friends that have bands.

I know one of them will jump on this, since he plays RB anyways.

[Icemage]

The funniest part of all this is that Harmonix has a ready-to-go army of publicists right here on the RB.com forums who will work for free at pestering artists to jump on this. :)

[ryanco64]

Reporting for duty, sir!

[Musicfreak82515]

I really...REALLY...REALLY think some people are getting way ahead of themselves in regards to this service.

Can anybody (including major artists) upload content? Yes.
Will anybody (including major artists) upload content? No.

As excited as I am for the service, it's mostly because I'm really looking forward to what new music can come out of it...as opposed to which classic bands are going to take matters into their own hands.

But I really think people should get their expectations out of control BEFORE the service is available so that we don't get to a point where every week there's 10-20 threads complaining about "that indie crap" that dropped on the RBN.

True....

But yea, it's a valid point. Not every band will use this technology/opportunity. Some bands may never want their music to be released other than through store-bought albums and possibly digital means as well (iTunes, Rhapsody, etc.). But you never know, Rush was reluctant at first to release more songs to Rock Band, but look what happened afterward. This may be the dawn of a new beginning towards DLC or just a way to experience some great Indie bands.

[HMXEnosity]

Ive sent out a few emails to a few of my friends that have bands.

I know one of them will jump on this, since he plays RB anyways.

Rock.

I'm looking forward to playing their songs :)

[Ehfahq]

Rock.

I'm looking forward to playing their songs :)

Are you sure you are ready filipino political death metal?!?!? ;)

You guys rule. Srsly.

[Luur32]

I'm a little confused about the RBN. How exactly does it work? All I can tell is any band who wants to can get their songs in the game or something like that

[overdriveguitarman]

Can my band get into it even though we only thirteen?

We still are awesome...

Can we submit it at least even though we just make up the songs, we don't have a manager or anything...

[AKALink]

Campaign (http://www.myspace.com/campaignsound), Burgundy, and hope full our friend from these forums Jukeboxhero.

[Dragonclaw]

My suggestion to everyone is if you know a band that you'd like to have in Rock Band... Tell them about the Rock Band Network.

^^^ THIS ^^^

And I've already started :D

[HMXEnosity]

Are you sure you are ready filipino political death metal?!?!? ;)

You guys rule. Srsly.

Part of my job is to check out ALL of the RBN music... so yes!

I love new music. love it love it.

[whofan]

Top 5 All-Time Looking Forward To Bands On RBN:
1) Simon Townshend
2) Pete Townshend (Solo Work)
3) Bang Camaro
4) Tribe
5) Anarchy Club

[Lizard_King]

im so pumped for this. i write all my own songs, so i cant wait to get all of them ready to go for this. if they make it, i will be ecstatic! im gonna need some help from the forums (looks directly in eye) haha. so excited!

[irockprettyhard]

Can my band get into it even though we only thirteen?

We still are awesome...

Can we submit it at least even though we just make up the songs, we don't have a manager or anything...
so your in crooked x? lol

[SatansBestBuddy]

I want it all, (Yeah, YEAH!) I want it all, I want it all, and I want it now!

Adventure seeker, on an empty street,
Just an alley creeper, light on his feet,
A young fighter screaming, with no time for doubt,
With the pain and anger, cant see a way out,
It aint much Im asking, I heard him say,
Gotta find me a future, move out of my way,
I want it all, I want it all, I want it all, and I want it now!
I want it all, I want it all, I want it all, and I want it now!

Listen all you people, come gather round,
I gotta get me a game plan, gotta shake you to the ground,
Just give me, what I know is mine,
People do you hear me, just give me the sign,
It aint much Im asking, if you want the truth,
Heres to the future, for the dreams of youth,
I want it all, (give it all) I want it all, I want it all, and I want it now!
I want it all, (yes, I want it all) I want it all, (hey) I want it all, and I want it now!

Im a man with a one track mind
So much to do in one life time (people do you hear me)
Not a man for compromise and wheres and whys and living
Lies
So Im living it all (yes Im living it all)
And Im giving it all (and Im giving it all)

Yeah yeah
Yeah yeah yeah yeah
I want it all all all all

It aint much Im asking, if you want the truth,
Heres to the future,
Hear the cry of youth, (hear the cry hear the cry of youth)
I want it all, I want it all, I want it all, and I want it now!
I want it all, (yeah yeah yeah) I want it all, I want it all, and I want it now!


I want it NOW!!
I want it! I want it!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLH3aXZ1dmk

[overdriveguitarman]

so your in crooked x? lol

lol yes,

jk

We are called Nailed to the Cross and we are more awesome than crooked x! :)

[overdriveguitarman]

Top 5 All-Time Looking Forward To Bands On RBN:
1) Nailed to the Cross
2) Nailed to the Cross
3) Nailed to the Cross
4) Nailed to the Cross
5) Nailed to the Cross

Fixed :D

[AKALink]

Part of my job is to check out ALL of the RBN music... so yes!

I love new music. love it love it.

So should I submit the music I make even though my recording process is less than a good enough way record stuff. (yay low-end problems and recording clarinet with the wrong kind of mic.

[BevoTheWarrior]

Maybe now Tiger Army can make it into RB...

[irockprettyhard]

lol yes,

jk

We are called Nailed to the Cross and we are more awesome than crooked x! :)
check out http://last.fm/music/spassm
and checkout the newest song "...we're going" (http://calthephenom.uuuq.com/upload/we are going.mid)

[Bosco32]

Dash Rip Rock, plz. I'm going to have to send them an email.

[woodwindpizza]

Can anyone (like me) submit a song for review to be on RBN?

[Kariodude]

The big names will still go to the normal store but the indie stuff that normally wouldn't make the game will make the store.

Someone didn't pay attention to the announcement.


Can anyone (like me) submit a song for review to be on RBN?

If you own the rights to a song then yes.

(Buying a CD doesn't give you the rights)

[whofan]

My suggestion to everyone is if you know a band that you'd like to have in Rock Band... Tell them about the Rock Band Network.
I've sent word to Simon Townshend's people about this. I really hope they consider it.

[whofan]

Fixed :D
Please do not modify my quotes, it is incredibly disrespectful and makes you look immature.

[davidshek]

I'm looking forward to davidshek's band :)

Thanks dude, me too! :)

[ADBjester]

Discuss!

Us PS3 peeps are happy for you XBoxers. We are, really.

Annoyed beyond measure that we don't get it, but happy for you.

#@$%^*& %#&*%&^*$&^*ing R$&*%$&*$*&%$* ^$($(^$46 ^$(&^$^(&$(^

Jester

[Minots59]

I expect the Harmonix bands (of RB and GH bonus band fame) are going to flood the RBN with awesomeness.

More Bang Camarro!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[whofan]

Us PS3 peeps are happy for you XBoxers. We are, really.

Annoyed beyond measure that we don't get it, but happy for you.

#@$%^*& %#&*%&^*$&^*ing R$&*%$&*$*&%$* ^$($(^$46 ^$(&^$^(&$(^

Jester
This is what happens when one company seemingly takes a much more active engagement with their developers than the other.

Xbox is getting it exclusive for a while because Microsoft helped make this happen. Maybe Sony should be trying the same thing?

[cutmaclass]

Zep definitely WON'T do the RBN, but I'm looking forward to modern alternative bands (Interpol, for example, and Radiohead, considering they are so forward-thinking) who are "with the times" enough.

[Luur32]

Zep definitely WON'T do the RBN, but I'm looking forward to modern alternative bands (Interpol, for example, and Radiohead, considering they are so forward-thinking) who are "with the times" enough.

You make it sound like selling out is the cool thing to do these days :P

[Musicfreak82515]

Us PS3 peeps are happy for you XBoxers. We are, really.

Annoyed beyond measure that we don't get it, but happy for you.

#@$%^*& %#&*%&^*$&^*ing R$&*%$&*$*&%$* ^$($(^$46 ^$(&^$^(&$(^

Jester

Wow, be negative more, huh?

Sean has already explained that they're working on creating RBN for PS3 as well. Microsoft already had the tools available, Sony didn't. So no, you're not getting shafted, you just have to wait patiently for the tools to develop.

[packerfan8675309]

My friend's band Highway. They may not be as great as I think they are but I will still die a happy man if I get to play them on Rock Band.

[Ehfahq]

This might sound like a really odd question. But my former bandmate had a solo career ( http://www.bakotopia.com/home/ViewPost/23037 ), and he died last year (dont do drugs, kids) and didnt leave a will. I have all the masters of his 3 cds.

Does anybody know where I can find laws pertaining to this situation of who owns the material? I would love to submit a few of his songs. I know his family so if they own the rights they could sumbit them. Id like other people who would never hear his music to get a chance to check him out.

[tkavil3]

MOAR SPUNJ BAWB!?!?!? /sarcasm

more tdwp tbh

and of course..

BILLY TALENT

[howieduen]

we're going to get a lot of "Corporate" crap, too. All of the Nickelodeon/Disney crap is going to become more superfluous. Chances are this service will end up giving us just as much stuff we DON'T want as stuff that we DO want.

[whofan]

This might sound like a really odd question. But my former bandmate had a solo career ( http://www.bakotopia.com/home/ViewPost/23037 ), and he died last year (dont do drugs, kids) and didnt leave a will. I have all the masters of his 3 cds.

Does anybody know where I can find laws pertaining to this situation of who owns the material? I would love to submit a few of his songs. I know his family so if they own the rights they could sumbit them. Id like other people who would never hear his music to get a chance to check him out.
How did you come into possession of the masters? Those rights may be invested in either you or the family. In which case, if they don't object to it, you could do up a contract allowing you to submit these songs on their behalf.

[n4sc4r]

I seem to recall Dave Mustaine being all for Rust in Peace appearing in RB alongside Peace Sells... Here's your chance! Everyone message him like 10 times each!

[Tezemery]

Does anyone have worries about the quality control of the songs going into rock band?

[Flawless]

I hope to see Wounded Soul, David Shek's band personally.

Day one.

Nevermind, sigh.

[Ehfahq]

How did you come into possession of the masters? Those rights may be invested in either you or the family. In which case, if they don't object to it, you could do up a contract allowing you to submit these songs on their behalf.

I have them from when we recorded our songs together. He moved around alot and wanted them to be in a safe place. Ive had them for almost 10 years now.

Im not looking to make any money from this (the 100 dollar investment in the kit would most likely not be recouped). Just to get the music out.

Thanks for the tip.

[whofan]

I have them from when we recorded our songs together. He moved around alot and wanted them to be in a safe place. Ive had them for almost 10 years now.

Im not looking to make any money from this (the 100 dollar investment in the kit would most likely not be recouped). Just to get the music out.

Thanks for the tip.
Well, by virtue of possession for the length of time, those rights SHOULD belong to you alone. However, what I would suggest just to avoid any unnesecary legal issues is to speak to the family and draft up a simple contract investing the rights in the songs jointly between the two entities and perhaps, as a goodwill gesture, a profit-sharing agreement (after recouping expenses (Real expenses, not your time expenditures)).

[Judge Judy 1]

In the video on the creators website it looked like it had a lot of songs by the Acro-Brats. I'm looking forward to Bang Camaro discography the most.

[woodwindpizza]

If you own the rights to a song then yes.

(Buying a CD doesn't give you the rights)

I don't own rights. I was just thinking about recording all 4 tracks by myself and submitting them for review? My friends and I just have a band, no albums or anything, yet. We're 16. :p
I suppose that's how this whole thing will work. :)

[Felldoh_The_Squirrel]

I hope Alter Bridge, RaTM, Carbon Leaf, and Incubus do this new RBN thingy. I would be beyond pleased. :o

[geo2n2]

Bang Camaro complete albums for sure!

[woodwindpizza]

Anyone see in the video where there are over 2,000 songs already in the closed beta? :eek: :D

[Felldoh_The_Squirrel]

Holy carp!! O_o That's a lot.

[whofan]

Also I should ask, were these CDs ever released with the help of a label (big, small or otherwise)?

[Ehfahq]

Also I should ask, were these CDs ever released with the help of a label (big, small or otherwise)?

Id have to pull the cds out, and they are at home. I believe one of them was just him sending them to a company to be burnt, and sold at local record stores.

The other two might be from small labels in Bakersfield CA. Im not sure though. If thats the case im sure I would have to contact them. Which might be more of a hassle than its worth.

Im going to get everything together. If you dont mind I would like to send you a PM next week and ask you a few questions.

[whofan]

Id have to pull the cds out, and they are at home. I believe one of them was just him sending them to a company to be burnt, and sold at local record stores.

The other two might be from small labels in Bakersfield CA. Im not sure though. If thats the case im sure I would have to contact them. Which might be more of a hassle than its worth.

Im going to get everything together. If you dont mind I would like to send you a PM next week and ask you a few questions.
Of course, my doors are always open. I work in a Canadian Intellectual Property law firm, so if I'm not sure about specifics I know where to find answers and know people to ask.

[CreamCrazy]

Alter Bridge please... I COULD KILL FOR THAT! Seriously... ^_^;

[Maxxxers]

i think that this RBN is a very dumb idea. HMX is basically giving all dlc power to idiots that know how to use a computer and play a guitar. i will never download or upload anything from RBN (except sublime). i am just glad that HMX will continue with weekly dlc

[nk40699]

We probably will see 1500 by the end of the year now :D

[Lone Bulldogs]

My suggestion to everyone is if you know a band that you'd like to have in Rock Band... Tell them about the Rock Band Network.

Done! Sent Clark Voegler an email on it! He's the guitar player for the Toadies.

[Fizzeler]

now when is this going live from the video I saw a several genre sections and many selections already available very curious when it is gong live :D

[Iceman420]

I am not sure I understand this completly and I am just looking for a quick answer. Sorry if I seem like a noob.

You can upload our own music, that then needs to get approved? Then how does it get turned into playable rb tracks? who does this part?

[sonicnerd23]

If Yes brings their masters to RB, I'm hoping to see some brilliant charting in part of Steve Howe.

[TVRobot]

Every band of the history of bands will eventually make into the RB catalog I believe except for those who view their music as art (and even then some of those will make it in) and those who think people should learn to play a real instrument (Prince I'm looking at you). Take that Guitar Hero you non innovative waste of stuff (well i guess their kind of innovative). But I do have a feeling that Nevervision is going to do something similar and then just cancel out what HMX has just done. They it did when HMX added in drums aned vocals to music rythm games. theres no reason why they wouldnt do it with this.

[ham736]

Coldplay, prepare to be spammed! (with emails from me wanting them to join the network of course)

[SonicRocker15X]

I am not sure I understand this completly and I am just looking for a quick answer. Sorry if I seem like a noob.

You can upload our own music, that then needs to get approved? Then how does it get turned into playable rb tracks? who does this part?

You pay to get the tools to chart your own songs and create gameplay for them. Then you submit them to the XNA community, and anyone with the premium subscription to it (100 bucks a year) can download and check the charts for themselves. IF it gets enough good feedback it'll move on to the official RBN, and will be a real downloadable track.

[OSTATEKING7]

Full Bang Camaro catalog!!!

This OMG. Are the songson the RBN going to be free?

[overdriveguitarman]

Pricing will be from 50 cents to 3 Dollars

[SonicRocker15X]

This OMG. Are the songson the RBN going to be free?

Fifty cents to three dollars, depending on what the artist wants.

[Meatwad555]

Every band in existence... besides a few.

[Iceman420]

You pay to get the tools to chart your own songs and create gameplay for them. Then you submit them to the XNA community, and anyone with the premium subscription to it (100 bucks a year) can download and check the charts for themselves. IF it gets enough good feedback it'll move on to the official RBN, and will be a real downloadable track.

Ok sweet this explained it well to me in my stupidity.

One other question though. If the community ends up not liking the song, will you still have it on your own xbox to play whenever?

[SonicRocker15X]

Ok sweet this explained it well to me in my stupidity.

One other question though. If the community ends up not liking the song, will you still have it on your own xbox to play whenever?

I'm wondering the same thing.
We'll have to wait and see I guess.

[riseagainstfoofighters]

hopefully Anberlin will release their full discography in it.

[Squaretriangles]

This seems like something BTBAM would do. So, yeah, them.


brokenCYDE discography FTW.

[Lone Bulldogs]

Pricing will be from 50 cents to 3 Dollars

This is good. It will motivate people to buy it if it's cheaper. $2 on a song you haven't heard is too much for some. I have a feeling we'll get some big names wanting the $3. But what the heck, if it's good, I'll pay it.

[ShadowChaosControl]

i'm hoping to get some of my own band's music out there, and on rock band

[Ramirez16]

There's ONE band that's never been on Rock Band that I REALLY want and that's My Chemical Romance.

[Cpt. Overkill]

Tacycardia, please. /support Devan

[travmeatwad]

Full Bang Camaro catalog!!!

This. All the way.

Also, I want to see Radium Eyes again. Hah.

[Luur32]

Did anyone catch that Penny Arcade made a quick little note on the Rock Band Network?


Not much to say about this thing, really, except that we are - all of us, now - living in the Goddamned future.

[daddio1975]

Somebody please email Mike Portnoy. Thank you.

[karmajack]

First band that came to mind was Wounded Soul. Get to it David.

[iD0ntPlayDrums]

More Abnormiality Ahahaha :)

[daddio1975]

Anyone with a link to the video?

[HazyCloud]

First band that came to mind was Wounded Soul. Get to it David.

I'd have to agree with that.

[gamrrpol]

I really...REALLY...REALLY think some people are getting way ahead of themselves in regards to this service.

Can anybody (including major artists) upload content? Yes.
Will anybody (including major artists) upload content? No.

As excited as I am for the service, it's mostly because I'm really looking forward to what new music can come out of it...as opposed to which classic bands are going to take matters into their own hands.

But I really think people should get their expectations out of control BEFORE the service is available so that we don't get to a point where every week there's 10-20 threads complaining about "that indie crap" that dropped on the RBN.

I never agree with T-Hybrid....but he's exactly right. Nothing has really changed for major label artists. You aren't going to see Led Zeppelin suddenly start charting their own songs for the RBN. It's going to be a bunch of indie bands.

Those thinking LZ, PF and Radiohead songs are all of sudden going to show up remind me of the folks who thought the 20 free songs for RB2 would be of similar well-known artists. Get a grip folks and keep the expectations in check, lest you be disappointed and then gripe about the "crap" on the RBN.

[gamrrpol]

Id love to see somebody like Trent Reznor get a in-house team and put the majority of his music out.

I could see somebody like him doing it.

Or Les Claypool.

But I also agree with this. Artists like Reznor and Beck, who enjoy havin' their songs remixed / cut-pasted might embrace this type of outlet.

[T-Hybrid]

It's not that I think big bands will NEVER come to RBN. But I'm guessing that it's going to have to prove itself as a viable means of selling content before they'll dip their toes in the water.

That said, I do expect some more progressive artists to step forward and experiement with this.

[gamrrpol]

we're going to get a lot of "Corporate" crap, too. All of the Nickelodeon/Disney crap is going to become more superfluous. Chances are this service will end up giving us just as much stuff we DON'T want as stuff that we DO want.

Well, yeah...that's the point of a marketplace. Do you complain about Best Buy or Barnes & Noble stocking music / books / CDs / DVDs that you don't want? I don't. I'm happy to have a broad selection to choose from.

[killerewok]

I'm in the camp of "it's going to be mostly indy artists". And really, would I want Jimmy Page to chart his own songs and not the HMX team? Heck No! Remember, the artists are going to chart them (or their hired team of nerds), not the HMX team. If we're going to get huge bands, I'd rather HMX do it right, then have some uppity artists overchart them so they are "realistic".

Oh yeah, and if the artist gets to make the track themselves, they also get to price it. So, sure, we might get Led Zep, overcharted and at $2.99 (or more) a song.

And being in the PS3 camp, if these huge artists DO come, am I going to miss out? Probably. They did say "standout tracks" would make it to PS3....after 30 days.

Personally, I think handing over the platform to the "artists" (read: labels and managers) might be the worst idea ever. HMX is good at what they do, they are fair, and they care about us. Record labels do not. They care about $$$. I'd rather not have some of these bands then leave it to their labels and record companys to create and sell us the tracks. Those people are evil. As soon as it prooves a viable source of income for these people, they will be cranking all out the poorly charted and overpriced tracks we've ever wanted. Huzzah.

[gamrrpol]

i think that this RBN is a very dumb idea. HMX is basically giving all dlc power to idiots that know how to use a computer and play a guitar. i will never download or upload anything from RBN (except sublime). i am just glad that HMX will continue with weekly dlc

(Shaking head at ignorance)

[T-Hybrid]

I still hate the XB360 bias that goes on. You'd think after however many years, 2 games, 3 sets of intruments, and 400 downloaded songs, HMX/MTV/EA might start to care about my business. I'm really not bitter, just a PS3 user :)
*shakes head*

I don't know how it could be anymore clear. This process was made possible via the tools provided as part of the XNA Developer program. When you are building your songs for the RBN, you are doing so directly for the 360.

In order to develope for all three simultaneous you would have to license the tools for ALL THREE CONSOLES. And at this time neither Sony or Nintendo provide the even provide the same kind of set-up.

It's literally not possible to develope simultaneously.

[gamrrpol]

It's not that I think big bands will NEVER come to RBN. But I'm guessing that it's going to have to prove itself as a viable means of selling content before they'll dip their toes in the water.

That said, I do expect some more progressive artists to step forward and experiement with this.

Agree completely. I think, initially, it'll be like 98% indie stuff and, if the concept takes off, more well-known bands will jump in later. Also agree that artists who embrace thair fans / remixes, etc. might get involved sooner rather than later. I could see Mike Portnoy hiring a small group of people to get the entire DT catalog up (okay, now I'M the one getting carried away with ambitious expectations).

[UnicycleLoser]

Billy Talent for sure. Can't believe they haven't gotten into Rock Band yet.

[zeoavenger]

I can see unknown, up and comers and has beens using this service a lot. Bands like Blue October, Huey Lewis & The News, Live, Iglu & Hartly, Say Anything, Luna Halo, etc. could benefit greatly. They just need to hire someone to chart the stuff for them.

Maybe that's a whole new career path for a few people out there. Freelance song programmers.

[jasonrosenbaum]

Neneh Cherry!!

[Dragonclaw]

I certainly don't expect any heavy hitters like Led Zep, Pink Floyd or U2 to suddenly pop in...I wouldn't be at all surprised to see some of the 80's and 90's groups with 1 or 2 hits throw their songs in...or dare I say many of the old hair metal bands that know it's their best shot for some good exposure. There are some bands out there that certainly will see this as an opportunity (Gene Simmons has a well known love of $$$ and if he can throw the entire KISS catalog up at $3 a pop I wouldn't be surprised to see it happen...)

[Elegy]

Megadeth's Rust in Peace full album. Mustaine wants to give HMX more albums, haha, I do believe he said it in a fan interview like 2 months after Peace Sells... came out.

[Blood Rapter]

new features and possibly more good songs... nobody can complain
this might be really sweet theres always gunna be crap u dont like sooo make the best out of it no1 can force u to download nething

[Toastyc12]

More support for PSN or I won't use it.

[Alvarado6411]

I have already contacted Annihilator and offered to make their first single for the RBN. I will also get in contact with Dave Mustaine and see if he's up for it.

[Zechman]

Because I'd LOVE to see Vagiant put the entire Public Display of Infection album out there. (For all I know it might already be out there!)

But if language is a problem, I'll settle for just Manhattan.

I heart HMXHellion. (Don't tell Apples!)

I could also envision myself authoring some rock arrangements of existing public domain songs. (I couldn't write an original song if there were a gun to my head!) That'd be $100 worth of fun for sure.

--Dwayne

[Luur32]

More support for PSN or I won't use it.

how constructive



I'm curious about how HMX plans to choose which ones should be avaliable for PS3/Wii. Will it be based on which has more downloads, or HMX's favorites or what?

[Alvarado6411]

Expect a lot of thrash bands from my side.

[mybro92]

Weird Al, Neil Young, Disturbed, Slipknot, Pink Floyed, Dio, and The Styx

[Thom1234]

All these people expecting High-Profile Bands (caps are intentional) are going to be disappointed.

I'm hoping for lots of HMX bands (see sig,) but I'm sure most of the user-created stuff will be utter dross. I hope to see some mid-to-high profile indie bands (Grizzly Bear pl0x,) but I don't see bands of that stature taking the time to chart their songs and so on.

[Luur32]

Expect a lot of thrash bands from my side.

considering the current opinion of whatll be on there, I welcome any thrash you can get. Expect me to try to grab some Rage Against The Machine, Motorhead, and Wolfmother :)

[Swivle]

I think the Ultimate Setlist Forum should be turned into (officially or unofficially) a place for fans of bands to gather together and track down ways of contacting bands or their record labels. When RBN comes out, requests move more or less from the hands of HMX into the hands of the bands themselves.

[JPSChampagne]

Freezepop Freezepop Freezepop Freezepop Freezepop Freezepop

EDIT: Oh, and TRIBE. "Here at the Home". Full album. oh em jeeeeeez

[Thom1234]

I think the Ultimate Setlist Forum should be turned into (officially or unofficially) a place for fans of bands to gather together and track down ways of contacting bands or their record labels. When RBN comes out, requests move more or less from the hands of HMX into the hands of the bands themselves.
Yes, because every band wants/has the time to chart their own songs (a process which they have no experience with, of course,) and then go through a no-doubt arduous process to get the damn songs released, and then make significantly less money than if they got their songs released as normal DLC. Quarterly.

Nah, I don't think so.

This thread should have a warning; Engage brain before fantasizing.(Oh, and actually read about RBN before assuming you know everything about it.)

[Swivle]

Yes, because every band wants/has the time to chart their own songs (a process which they have no experience with, of course,) and then go through a no-doubt arduous process to get the damn songs released, and then make significantly less money than if they got their songs released as normal DLC. Quarterly.

Nah, I don't think so.

So you're saying that there is no point to Rock Band Network at all.

[Thom1234]

So you're saying that there is no point to Rock Band Network at all.
No.

I'm saying that the VAST majority of bands on RBN won't have a large enough fanbase to warrant Ult. Setlist threads. Expect ridiculously obscure bands with nothing more than a small regional following.

The only bands who'll give a crap about this are the ones who have no chance at all of being regular DLC. And HMX bands, for promotional purposes.

[T-Hybrid]

Expect ridiculously obscure bands with nothing more than a small regional following.
Who could then invest $100 in a devkit...put a handful of songs out there at $1 or so and make up that $100 and likely a bit more in a day because they KNOW those people will buy the songs once they're up.

K.

[Meatwad555]

Who could then invest $100 in a devkit...put a handful of songs out there at $1 or so and make up that $100 and likely a bit more in a day because they KNOW those people will buy the songs once they're up.

K.

The chances of the songs from a new artist selling a great deal is greatly lowered because there will be so damn many of them.

[Thom1234]

Who could then invest $100 in a devkit...put a handful of songs out there at $1 or so and make up that $100 and likely a bit more in a day because they KNOW those people will buy the songs once they're up.

K.
You have a point.

This is actually completely pointless. No one benefits (financially, anyway.) and it'll just generate loads of whining and idiocy. People are so quick to lick HMX's boots and fantasize about ridiculous, unreasonable possibilities instead of weighing out the pros and cons of an idea.

High profile bands won't be interested due to less financial gain/more work.

Small bands won't be interested due to virtually no guaranteed income and lots of money/work needed.

Players won't be interested due to lack of High- Profile bands and possible overpricing/terrible charting.

I don't think this is going to go at all well.

[Musicfreak82515]

Who could then invest $100 in a devkit...put a handful of songs out there at $1 or so and make up that $100 and likely a bit more in a day because they KNOW those people will buy the songs once they're up.

K.

Exactly. I think that's the point Harmonix wants to make with RBN. Give lesser known bands greater exposure to a larger media outlet. That $300-some odd dollars (because they also have to buy the Reaper program if needed) could turn out to be a great investment. If it doesn't pan out so well, they'll earn the money back some other way.

[ultrastatic]

Hot Action Cop!

[Swivle]

No.

I'm saying that the VAST majority of bands on RBN won't have a large enough fanbase to warrant Ult. Setlist threads. Expect ridiculously obscure bands with nothing more than a small regional following.

The only bands who'll give a crap about this are the ones who have no chance at all of being regular DLC. And HMX bands, for promotional purposes.

That shouldn't deter anyone from trying to get their favourite band into this. Just because you say that they won't be interested doesn't mean they won't. I see what you're saying, and I agree that (at least at first) RBN will be 99.9% indie stuff, but there are some really cool people out there in popular bands that will be interested in this sort of thing (Dave Mustaine, Trent Reznor). Plus it's a money making scheme like no other, if nothing else.

[OSTATEKING7]

My question is why would big bands want to spend time on this?

[LORDJUJU]

Mine, lookout for Crosshatch and Lost

[Apples]

My question is why would big bands want to spend time on this?

It seems to me that they won't. That's why there's a separate venue for them in the professionally charted and produced DLC which we've always had.

But for those without the recognition, talent, connections, etc, they now have an option of their own. And should they strike a chord with their productions, they can generate their own fans.

[whofan]

My question is why would big bands want to spend time on this?
Because it gets them exposure they may not be able to get otherwise?

There's apparently a huge bottleneck at Harmonix right now because they're a small company. So if you're a band like, let's say Motley Crue, and you have a new single coming out and want the cross-promotion for it, you can hire one of these HMX-trained programmers to do this for you and have the song out on RB in time for the single release.

[OSTATEKING7]

It seems to me that they won't. That's why there's a separate venue for them in the professionally charted and produced DLC which we've always had.

But for those without the recognition, talent, connections, etc, they now have an option of their own. And should they strike a chord with their productions, they can generate their own fans.

exactly what i was thinking.

[Musicfreak82515]

It seems to me that they won't. That's why there's a separate venue for them in the professionally charted and produced DLC which we've always had.

But for those without the recognition, talent, connections, etc, they now have an option of their own. And should they strike a chord with their productions, they can generate their own fans.

Yup, I think Sean or Enosity already said that both the Music Store and the RBN Store would both exist.

In my opinion, neither one will dominate. The Music Store will provide what it provides now while the RBN Store will provide a new media outlet, straight to the point.

[whofan]

Yup, I think Sean or Enosity already said that both the Music Store and the RBN Store would both exist.

In my opinion, neither one will dominate. The Music Store will provide what it provides now while the RBN Store will provide a new media outlet, straight to the point.
Obviously one isn't going to supplement another, they'll compliment each other. The RBN is being meant to allow smaller acts to get their music into the game.

[rwscott01]

i wonder how many cover bands will put stuff on there!! that could be huge! Anyone think of that yet?

[overdriveguitarman]

i wonder how many cover bands will put stuff on there!! that could be huge! Anyone think of that yet?

I hope not! :)

[Musicfreak82515]

i wonder how many cover bands will put stuff on there!! that could be huge! Anyone think of that yet?

I think due to licensing issues, they can't. The covers on RB are different because HMX gained the permission to cover the song from the label/band.

[Luur32]

i wonder how many cover bands will put stuff on there!! that could be huge! Anyone think of that yet?

I dunno how that would work. Either it would say "As made famous by", possibly scaring a few people away, or itll say the actual band name, and make them think its some completely new thing. Might get some attention though

[whofan]

i wonder how many cover bands will put stuff on there!! that could be huge! Anyone think of that yet?
Won't happen, you would have to gain permission of the original rights holder in order to commercially release songs.

[Thom1234]

I hope not! :)
Publishing Rights.

/thread.

[Die-Guitar-Hero]

How is this not Ultimate Setlist?

[Luur32]

How is this not Ultimate Setlist?

Its pretty much derailed from "What bands you want" to "What are your opinions on RBN?". Maybe we should get a title change

[gamrrpol]

This is actually completely pointless. No one benefits (financially, anyway.) and it'll just generate loads of whining and idiocy. People are so quick to lick HMX's boots and fantasize about ridiculous, unreasonable possibilities instead of weighing out the pros and cons of an idea.

High profile bands won't be interested due to less financial gain/more work.

You're probably right here. Although, as discussed by a number of posters, there are quite a few artists (Beck, Reznor, Portnoy come to mind) who are just as likely to embrace this idea just because it allows their fans to enjoy their music in yet another, more participatory manner.


Small bands won't be interested due to virtually no guaranteed income and lots of money/work needed.

Think you are completely, 1000% wrong here. Small bands don't have ANY avenue to "guaranteed income". When they play gigs they often do so for little or no money. When the cut albums, they often go unsold. Imagine for the small investment of the application, plus a few hours spent authoring the charts, you now have potential distribution to millions of fans. Most will remain anonymous, but the OPPORTUNITY to click with a huge audience means many, many bands will be very, very interested.


Players won't be interested due to lack of High- Profile bands and possible overpricing/terrible charting.

Again, think you're completely wrong. There are TONS of indie bands with small but loyal audiences. You've probably never heard of Bob Schneider, but in Texas he's a near-household name. He sold 100,000 of his self-produced, self-distributed "Lonelyland" album. If he were to put songs on the RBN that small, but very loyal, passionate audience would snap those songs up.

He's just one of dozens if not hundreds of bands that fans will be interested in. It seems you listen only to the major label bands and that's fine. But most hardcore music fans I know have an appreciation for music beyond the major labels and will respond very positively to this.

As to the terrible charting concerns...that's why there's a vetting process. It will work much like the iPhone Apps store. Currently, for every App available through the store something like 25 are submitted; in other words only those that meet a certain quality standard are published. There's no reason to think the songs available will all be charted poorly.


I don't think this is going to go at all well.

I think it's going to be amazingly successful.

[Cleanmonk]

Candlebox for sure. they even request that you go to rb.com and request them on there myspace....after i saw the RBN, i had to show RBN to them :D

[gamrrpol]

i wonder how many cover bands will put stuff on there!! that could be huge! Anyone think of that yet?

Cover bands would have to gain permission from the license-holder so highly unlikely.

[Musicfreak82515]

How is this not Ultimate Setlist?

I thought about it but decided since that since it not requesting bands for DLC, it was more suited for here


[Its pretty much derailed from "What bands you want" to "What are your opinions on RBN?". Maybe we should get a title change

EDIT EDIT: Changed. Sort of.

[iruhlman]

I agree, this is gonna be HUGE!

[DookieMan]

I personally can't wait for this. It's beyond huge, it's huger (that a word? if so, is it spelled right?) then (if) the Cubs won the World Series (lawl).

(Inside joke to people who live in the Capital Region of New York)
HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE!

Damn, I don't think anywhere here will get that...

[overdriveguitarman]

(Inside joke to people who live in the Capital Region of New York)
HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE!

Damn, I don't think anywhere here will get that...

lolwut?

[iruhlman]

is this the official RBN thread?

[gamrrpol]

I said long ago that one natural evolution of the Rock Band / rhythm game phenomenon is bands writing songs SPECIFICALLY with RB in mind. This new authoring tool makes that even more likely. Imagine you're an ambitious young band looking for exposure. I can easily see you writing a song with the RB chart in mind, making the game interesting from that standpoint, and having that idea largely shape the song-writing process.

Think this is very likely now.

[Musicfreak82515]

is this the official RBN thread?

No, that would be this (http://www.rockband.com/forums/showthread.php?t=152203)

[Oddbrother]

I can't wait to see more of Monkey Steals the Peach.

[Alvarado6411]

(inside joke to people who live in the capital region of new york)
huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuge!

Damn, i don't think anywhere here will get that...

Ack Ack

;)

[kcharles]

Stepping Out of Bounds, lol (my band).

Once we get good enough and get some good original tracks, I'm hoping we can get in, lol.

[Buddy_guy]

I said long ago that one natural evolution of the Rock Band / rhythm game phenomenon is bands writing songs SPECIFICALLY with RB in mind. This new authoring tool makes that even more likely. Imagine you're an ambitious young band looking for exposure. I can easily see you writing a song with the RB chart in mind, making the game interesting from that standpoint, and having that idea largely shape the song-writing process.

Think this is very likely now.

...or this will happen:
http://xkcd.com/70/

[rockdawg-1965]

I expect the Harmonix bands (of RB and GH bonus band fame) are going to flood the RBN with awesomeness.

Vagiant full album release... with uncensored F**K the Kells!

[Lizard_King]

well in august, watch out for bright midnight haha. hopefully ill have four or five tracks ready to go, work on them then send them off. you heard it here first.

[Dragonclaw]

I think that if this is MARKETED correctly to the ARTISTS it could be HUGE:

I don't pretend to know how much artists make from Harmonix licenced product, but from the press release on RBN THOSE tracks have the artist keeping 30%...I expect it's probably a HIGHER percentage than the RBN songs...

Lets take the previosuly mentioned mega-star and admittedly money loving Gene Simmons of Kiss...

How many songs does Kiss have? Several hundred at least...

Harmonix throws us a Kiss 12 pack (and the Kiss army will scream for more immedaitely)...12 tracks, and lets assume 100,000 downloads on average for the set at...$2.49 each (yes, I know it's cheaper in bulk) with royalties of...oh I don't know...50% for Kiss...they make almost 1.5 million dollars...not too shabby...

but now lets say Gene and his production company use the Rock Band Network to put up HUNDREDS of songs...only making 30%, but the volume of downloads goes through the ROOF! Will everyone download every song? Of course not! I wouldn't either...though I think I'd be in for more than a dozen...but there are ravenous fans that will download every single track Gene can pump out (Microsoft will NEED to make bigger hard drives...or Harmonix can just put out the Official Rock Band Terrabyte Drive). If bands are marketed to in a way that shows the huge potential there RBN could really open up a FLOOD GATE of quality tunes. Some artists like Led Zep will probbaly still NEVER be in the game...but bands that have been happy with the results they've gotten (Bowie, Cheap Trick...) wouldn't be hard to convince to add more content, especially if they can pull in a BIG fish like Kiss with a pitch like this :)

Steven Tyler has said that Guitar Hero Aerosmith made more money for the band than any album they have EVER released...and it's not like they suck at selling albums...

From an artists standpoint it gets their music to their fans...and there are no illegal downloads or file sharing to get their goat like with other digital distrobution :)

[Luur32]

Vagiant full album release... with uncensored F**K the Kells!

That actually brings up another point. Will censorship be the same as normal DLC/Rock Band standards, or will it be all uncensored? I would assume censored

[Meatwad555]

I think that if this is MARKETED correctly to the ARTISTS it could be HUGE:

I don't pretend to know how much artists make from Harmonix licenced product, but from the press release on RBN THOSE tracks have the artist keeping 30%...I expect it's probably a HIGHER percentage than the RBN songs...

Lets take the previosuly mentioned mega-star and admittedly money loving Gene Simmons of Kiss...

How many songs does Kiss have? Several hundred at least...

Harmonix throws us a Kiss 12 pack (and the Kiss army will scream for more immedaitely)...12 tracks, and lets assume 100,000 downloads on average for the set at...$2.49 each (yes, I know it's cheaper in bulk) with royalties of...oh I don't know...50% for Kiss...they make almost 1.5 million dollars...not too shabby...

but now lets say Gene and his production company use the Rock Band Network to put up HUNDREDS of songs...only making 30%, but the volume of downloads goes through the ROOF! Will everyone download every song? Of course not! I wouldn't either...though I think I'd be in for more than a dozen...but there are ravenous fans that will download every single track Gene can pump out (Microsoft will NEED to make bigger hard drives...or Harmonix can just put out the Official Rock Band Terrabyte Drive). If bands are marketed to in a way that shows the huge potential there RBN could really open up a FLOOD GATE of quality tunes. Some artists like Led Zep will probbaly still NEVER be in the game...but bands that have been happy with the results they've gotten (Bowie, Cheap Trick...) wouldn't be hard to convince to add more content, especially if they can pull in a BIG fish like Kiss with a pitch like this :)

Steven Tyler has said that Guitar Hero Aerosmith made more money for the band than any album they have EVER released...and it's not like they suck at selling albums...

From an artists standpoint it gets their music to their fans...and there are no illegal downloads or file sharing to get their goat like with other digital distrobution :)

This would be the best-case scenario. I hope everything works out like this!

[davidshek]

That actually brings up another point. Will censorship be the same as normal DLC/Rock Band standards, or will it be all uncensored? I would assume censored

It won't be uncensored. The various articles and information we've seen about this today all say that HMX will be reviewing the submitted tracks for lyrical content.

[Zms]

My suggestion to everyone is if you know a band that you'd like to have in Rock Band... Tell them about the Rock Band Network.
I would love to author songs from local bands that i know. The question is if/when it will be available to europeans?

[SnowFreak13]

Full Bang Camaro catalog!!!

I would take the life of every first born child in a 10 mile radius of me with my bare hands to get just ONE Bang Camaro album.


What I would do for both of them...it's unspeakable...

[BladeZ]

I think that if this is MARKETED correctly to the ARTISTS it could be HUGE:

I don't pretend to know how much artists make from Harmonix licenced product, but from the press release on RBN THOSE tracks have the artist keeping 30%...I expect it's probably a HIGHER percentage than the RBN songs...

Lets take the previosuly mentioned mega-star and admittedly money loving Gene Simmons of Kiss...

How many songs does Kiss have? Several hundred at least...

Harmonix throws us a Kiss 12 pack (and the Kiss army will scream for more immedaitely)...12 tracks, and lets assume 100,000 downloads on average for the set at...$2.49 each (yes, I know it's cheaper in bulk) with royalties of...oh I don't know...50% for Kiss...they make almost 1.5 million dollars...not too shabby...

but now lets say Gene and his production company use the Rock Band Network to put up HUNDREDS of songs...only making 30%, but the volume of downloads goes through the ROOF! Will everyone download every song? Of course not! I wouldn't either...though I think I'd be in for more than a dozen...but there are ravenous fans that will download every single track Gene can pump out (Microsoft will NEED to make bigger hard drives...or Harmonix can just put out the Official Rock Band Terrabyte Drive). If bands are marketed to in a way that shows the huge potential there RBN could really open up a FLOOD GATE of quality tunes. Some artists like Led Zep will probbaly still NEVER be in the game...but bands that have been happy with the results they've gotten (Bowie, Cheap Trick...) wouldn't be hard to convince to add more content, especially if they can pull in a BIG fish like Kiss with a pitch like this :)

Steven Tyler has said that Guitar Hero Aerosmith made more money for the band than any album they have EVER released...and it's not like they suck at selling albums...

From an artists standpoint it gets their music to their fans...and there are no illegal downloads or file sharing to get their goat like with other digital distrobution :)

The reason Aerosmith made more is because it is a video game, not a CD. I saw the break down a few years back, and for a $16.99 cd, the biggest portion goes to the distributors(nearly half), then labels get there cut(they usually take more and use it for advertising the band), band manager etc. The band only ends up getting a few cents for each CD, now split that up among the band members. It's basically nothing.

Aside from that, I think that HMX would be very careful about not ruining the rock band name. Tracks are to be submitted and play tested before being released. So the thoughts of having terrible charts may be unfounded.

I think that the majority of bands that will be on it first are the unsigned bands that have enough money that go on small tours (local venue tours). There are a lot of bands out there like this. They go the route of the DIY cd (no label involved) and see more money from the sales of their CDs, and now they can expand their exposure by adding songs to rock band. Record labels don't like uncharted waters, and major acts may not be able to jump in if the label says they can't (unless the finance it themselves or something to that effect).

[Zidane]

Rock 'N Roll Soldiers. I always felt that they were perfect for the game, but since they're pretty underground I never thought they would make it. But after the announcement I decided to send them a message on MySpace. Hopefully they get it.

[solidsnakejt]

This might sound like a really odd question. But my former bandmate had a solo career ( http://www.bakotopia.com/home/ViewPost/23037 ), and he died last year (dont do drugs, kids) and didnt leave a will. I have all the masters of his 3 cds.

Does anybody know where I can find laws pertaining to this situation of who owns the material? I would love to submit a few of his songs. I know his family so if they own the rights they could sumbit them. Id like other people who would never hear his music to get a chance to check him out.

this would be a really great way to pay him homage and give him a little bit of recognition, i love your idea :)

[Ferocious Q]

Rock 'N Roll Soldiers.

Yes!

[TheClashTheClashTheClash]

Teenage Bottlerocket

[Ferocious Q]

Coldplay, prepare to be spammed! (with emails from me wanting them to join the network of course)

Coldplay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I didn't think there was anybody else like me who likes Coldplay AND Green Day!

[Ferocious Q]

Didn't Fred Durst say Limp was coming to RB soon? This would be an interesting method of releasing Limp Bizkit.

[cherokeesam]

I think that the majority of bands that will be on it first are the unsigned bands that have enough money that go on small tours (local venue tours). There are a lot of bands out there like this. They go the route of the DIY cd (no label involved) and see more money from the sales of their CDs, and now they can expand their exposure by adding songs to rock band. Record labels don't like uncharted waters, and major acts may not be able to jump in if the label says they can't (unless the finance it themselves or something to that effect).

^This.

Although there will undoubtedly be exceptions here and there, I think the people who are expecting big-name bands to jump on the RBN are deluding themselves. This is primarily for the garage bands and the indie labels, the bands struggling to make a name for themselves.

And, yes, for bigger-name bands who feel like their label is screwing them and/or somehow keeping their stuff from joining the Rock Band revolution (Warners bands, for instance.....:D )

[S1ckH4nds]

I hope to see work from independent labels such as Saddle Creek and Jade Tree making the move into the game soon (specifically, Cursive and Milemarker).

[Ferocious Q]

Wow. http://creators.rockband.com/beta/invite

This will suck a nut if it'll all be lousy no-names. I'm sorry to sound so mean, but I'm not going to pay for anything that I wouldn't pay for through Itunes....

[Grimmja]

There are definitely some record labels that might want to get into this. 13th Planet, for one, I am pretty darn sure will go for this, given how enthusiastically they embraced Rock Band.

[RetroMonster]

Amon Amarth.

[cherokeesam]

There are definitely some record labels that might want to get into this. 13th Planet, for one, I am pretty darn sure will go for this, given how enthusiastically they embraced Rock Band.

Tru dat.

I wouldn't be surprised to see MetalBlade and Roadrunner and Century Media get behind it, too, since they've already been enthusiastic suppliers to HMX.

[moose39]

Bloc Party.

[Ferocious Q]

Bloc Party.

!!!!
This!! :eek:

[Grimmja]

Amon Amarth.

Let there be Odin! There was Odin. Let there Runes! There were runes. Let there be fjords! There was fjords! Let there be war! There was war. OHHHH, LET THERE BE VIKINGS!

[harveyglobetrot]

I think anyone expecting huge hitters (Metallica, U2 etc.) to go through this route are setting themselves up for disappointment. There may be the odd big name who may use something like this, but I suspect they will be few and far between.

I'm expecting to see a whole heap of stuff from the HMX bands, maybe even discographies (Bang Camaro's catalogue would be a huge seller). I'm also expecting to be introduced to a whole host of bands I would never have come across in any other way.

[EnterName]

Just wondering... Will RB DLC still be made by HMX? OR is this how things will go? Please be both! :)

[DarkHeartsDie]

RBN = Fail

simple as that, so i'm sure theres going to be none of the bands i like or want to see even show up in the RBN

[Icyjoe14]

well i absolutely love playing get clean, so i could use some anarchy club

[TKS]

i'm hoping for some bowling for soup , Sugarcult , and American Hi-fi and Army of freshmen and MC lars . i'm a big fan of all of those and they're all not really popular

[N-Play]

I am hopeing for some MSI, Soul Coughing, Mike Doughty, Endless Hallway and Dream Theater.

[Runa216]

Actually, I have some questions if some HMX reps would be interested in clarifying some things....

For this RBN option, it said these songs will remain seperate from the main Rock Band list, for this reason, I imagine the RBN tracks will all be charted by non-HMX people (read: the artists of the songs). I also believe HMX will remain making songs.

That said, is there some sort of quality-control that the RBN tracks need to go through to be posted, or is this a free-for all where we can expect GH-esque charting from bands who think they're hot ****, making their songs harder than they need to be for the sake of e-peen? I dunno, this has the POTENTIAL to be the best thing that's happened to the music industry, as well as the videogame industry, but it could backfire.

anyway, that's my main question, will RBN tracks be monitored for quality?

[Bosco32]

anyway, that's my main question, will RBN tracks be monitored for quality?

Sean and all went through this a bunch in the official thread. There is going to be a ton of peer-review and QA, and songs will have to be approved before going live.

[Bill_Banks]

Well some The Main Drag ( band that made A Jagged Gorgeous ) members has worked with HMX. Plus they make good Indie Rock Pop music. So i hope The Main Drag uses RBN

[Sushipunk]

Oh... CKY baby!!! i LOVE IT!

also some more Metallica, Motorhead, anything Crush 40 before they started performing for Sega and Sonic, more Turbonegro, Green day, ANDREW W.K.!!!, maybe another Billy Idol?

Blink 182, Bloc Party, Crossfade, Dropkick Murphys (the state of massachusetts wins in my book), Classic Kiss?

Monster Magnet, The Misfits, Papa Roach (from there getting away with murder album) RATM, Ramstein, Oh and Rev Theroy as well!

Better tracks from Soundgarden, (when did i ever hear pretty noose ever?) Sum 41, Three Days Grace, Yellowcard and that does it in my book... any questions?

[snwns26]

Quick Dick and The Undercovers
The Faces Plain

You'll see! You'll all see!*

*no promises because I may not be able to convince my friends to record

[EnterName]

More of The Killers and Linkin Park. Rise Against DLC is okay.. But better songs next time.

[Elegy]

Well some The Main Drag ( band that made A Jagged Gorgeous ) members has worked with HMX. Plus they make good Indie Rock Pop music. So i hope The Main Drag uses RBN

yeah, The Main Drag tweeted earlier that they'll be utilizing it!! Also, I think Bang Camaro did as well

[Bonzo]

Shaimus, Motion City Soundtrack, Sum 41, The Slip, The Sounds, The Killers, Blink-182

...and whoever has the rights to the Power Rangers Theme Song!!!

[AHXtreme42]

We'll get lesser known bands on it, thats for sure.

But when it comes to popular bands that just never get around to being featured by Harmonix as a DLC, I hope a band possibly has someone, like a producer or something along those lines...make it their job to get a few of their songs into RB.

I know this is an odd example, but I've been listening to some older Hoobastank songs again (crawling in the dark, etc.) those just strike me as fun RB tracks. Simple, great for parties, pretty well known. I doubt theyll ever get put in as official store content. But wouldnt it be cool if Hoobastank went. Hey, lets hire this dude to get our material out in Rock Band a little, and thus expose more customers to our song(s) and drive in some extra sales on old content? If every band does this, we could have a great selection at our fingertips!

[madcapmatt]

I constantly wondered why there are no HMX bands songs being flooded into the store weekly, now I know. I really hope we get massive amounts of Bang Camaro, Tribe, Honest Bob, Anarchy Club, and Shaimus. Are That Handsome Devil a HMX band? Last, but by no means least, more Freezepop.

[ryan12147]

I constantly wondered why there are no HMX bands songs being flooded into the store weekly, now I know. I really hope we get massive amounts of Bang Camaro, Tribe, Honest Bob, Anarchy Club, and Shaimus. Are That Handsome Devil a HMX band? Last, but by no means least, more Freezepop.

You forgot Death of the Cool -.-

[madcapmatt]

You forgot Death of the Cool -.-
Your right I did. Another great band that we need more of in RB.

EDIT: With the release of the RBN we may actually get some Psychostick in Rock Band.

[CEEDZ13]

full bang camaro catalog!!!

i thought the same thing!!! That would be sickkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk!!!!

[madcapmatt]

i thought the same thing!!! That would be sickkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk!!!!2nd'd:c ool:

[Thom1234]

2nd'd:cool:
3rd'd.

Also, isn't "Can't Let Go" Death of the Cool's only song? I'd like to more of them in RB, though..

Also, Kingdoms (http://www.myspace.com/kingdoms) would pwn in RB.

[CloudWolf]

More HMX bands (Anarchy Club, The Main Drag, Bang Camaro, That Handsome Devil pl0x) and taken into account that Sub Pop is planning on releasing music through RBN, Mudhoney.

[b4nny]

and taken into account that Sub Pop is planning on releasing music through RBN, Mudhoney.
I would really like this and it's excellent that Sub Pop is interested, they've got tons of worthwhile artists.

However, we must be realistic. Major labels (WMG, UMG specifically) aren't going to jump on this right away, due to all the work they will need to put into it. Looking forward to all our favorite big bands as DLC is mostly going to lead to disappointment for quite a while. So please, be patient and keep your hopes at a realistic level.

[iruhlman]

That actually brings up another point. Will censorship be the same as normal DLC/Rock Band standards, or will it be all uncensored? I would assume censored

taken from kataku:

News of Rock Band's new gamer-driven network which allows artists to upload and price their own music, didn't come without a warning and some help from Microsoft's Xbox Live Enforcement Squad.

The Rock Band Network, which launches later this year for the 360, has artists submit their songs to a group of "Harmonix-trained freelance game developers" who will prep the tracks for use in game.

The group will also be on the look at for things like over-the-top profanity and copyright infringement, Stephen Toulouse
program manager in charge of policy and enforcement for Xbox Live, told Kotaku.

"We actually went out to Harmonix in March and talked to them about what if someone made a really obscene song," Toulouse said.

Toulouse said he isn't too concerned about a copyrighted song or obvious obscenity sneaking through to the marketplace because of the human filters Harmonix has put in place.

"The chances of it making it through the system is very low," he said. "They are using the community games pipeline which can report directly to us."

And Toulouse's team is involved both before the music is released and afterward, he said.

The trip to Harmonix in March is just an example of one of the ways the Live Enforcement Squad is working to make Live a safe and fun place for both gamers and publishers, he said.

[cherokeesam]

Oh... CKY baby!!! i LOVE IT!

also some more Metallica, Motorhead, anything Crush 40 before they started performing for Sega and Sonic, more Turbonegro, Green day, ANDREW W.K.!!!, maybe another Billy Idol?

Blink 182, Bloc Party, Crossfade, Dropkick Murphys (the state of massachusetts wins in my book), Classic Kiss?

Monster Magnet, The Misfits, Papa Roach (from there getting away with murder album) RATM, Ramstein, Oh and Rev Theroy as well!

Better tracks from Soundgarden, (when did i ever hear pretty noose ever?) Sum 41, Three Days Grace, Yellowcard and that does it in my book... any questions?

Yes, just one: what color is the sky in your world?

Some of you guys (by which I currently mean: you) are *totally* missing the point. RBN is a launching pad for NEW bands; the guys fresh out of the garage and the ones still struggling to make their first gig. The BIG names will still 99.999% be handled through the regular RB DLC route.

[Soy_Bob]

I know that Jeff of Bomb the Music Industry! is a big Rock Band fan, so hopefully he'll catch wind of this and chart some of his/their songs.

Short of that, more Bang Camaro and the other HMX bands.

[Bill_Banks]

yeah, The Main Drag tweeted earlier that they'll be utilizing it!! Also, I think Bang Camaro did as well

NICE, i'm so hype now! The Main Drag sre going to make money towards the indie rock fans

[White_PawZ]

I think it is a brilliant idea....

Many of the smaller, lesser known bands will be able to put whatever songs out they want. If they can sell around 100 copies, they break even.

Meanwhile, HMX gets $100 a pop for the kit.

I just wonder if this will be easy enough to use that you don't need to be a programmer to do this. Will this process be straight forward enough for the average band who wants to try it?

[White_PawZ]

I wonder how the breakup of royalty money will work on RBN versus regular DLC.

For example, what if a pretty well known but not massive band like Sublime thinks they could pay someone with some tech savvy to upload their entire discography onto the RBN at $2 a song. Depending on how the royalties work to the band vs HMX, they could make more $$ on the RBN than regular DLC.

[Catch-22]

I wonder how the breakup of royalty money will work on RBN versus regular DLC.

For example, what if a pretty well known but not massive band like Sublime thinks they could pay someone with some tech savvy to upload their entire discography onto the RBN at $2 a song. Depending on how the royalties work to the band vs HMX, they could make more $$ on the RBN than regular DLC.

Billboard has it at 30% of a sale goes to the artist for RBN.

[Oddbrother]

A little crazy, but I'm looking forward to that metal band, A Tortured Soul.

[davidshek]

Meanwhile, HMX gets $100 a pop for the kit.

Not quite. The $99/year fee is for the XNA Creative Club premium membership. HMX doesn't get that, MS does.

[Zephiel]

I'm hoping to try to convince the Brothers Chaps to get in on this. Strong Bad needs RB representation!

[OakTea]

I hope to see rereleases of all of the bonus songs from GH1 and GH2. Caveman Rejoice! I really want that song in Rock Band, it'd be so fun to sing!

[nascarfan19]

i can tell my piano teacher about this. he plays for a band (Impala Deluxe)

[BoBilo]

RX BANDITS!!!!! and maybe State Radio.

[KrakenKing]

I expect the Harmonix bands (of RB and GH bonus band fame) are going to flood the RBN with awesomeness.

Shaimus!

Full albums would be excellent!

[Dragonclaw]

Yes, just one: what color is the sky in your world?

Some of you guys (by which I currently mean: you) are *totally* missing the point. RBN is a launching pad for NEW bands; the guys fresh out of the garage and the ones still struggling to make their first gig. The BIG names will still 99.999% be handled through the regular RB DLC route.

While I do think MANY of the bigger bands will still go directly through Harmonix I do expect to see some artists that were formerly much bigger names than they are now see the potential in joining RBN...You know the bands...the ones that were big in the 80's and are playing state fairs and such but still try to promote themselves where they can...the bands that get zero airplay....For those guys RBN is a way to generate some revenue off their name recognition and nostalgia. Especially for guys who like and are really good at self promotion...like Bret Micheals. I don't think it's at ALL unreasonable to think he'd not only be OPEN to putting his solo material as well as Poison's catalog on RBN, but as an avenue of promotion and revenue generation he may see it as a very viable option...it's not like Poison has had any radio play from it's last 6 albums...and Bret himself has some good solo material as well...I could see a lot of the 80's hair metal guys jumping on this...and I hope they do :)

[masterantonio]

I hope this is a way to get some more hair metal into this game.