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bjyaritz

07-18-2009, 01:18 PM

I just made a post on the Led Zeppelin Official Forum. I will post the link. Drop on by and show your support Zep and Rock Band fans!

http://forums.ledzeppelin.com/index.php?showtopic=11355

Julio_Strikes_Back

07-18-2009, 01:21 PM

Prepare to get flamed. That forum is full of elitist douchers. However, the band members actually do read the forum so there's a chance you will be heard out.

sillystou

07-18-2009, 01:21 PM

And it starts....

disco_stu

07-18-2009, 01:22 PM

I would LOVE Zep on Rock Band.

But i think i speak for the majority of the forum when i say there is more chance of seeing Michael Jackson turn up at my door and ask to babysit.

I hope i'm made to eat my words

+Also you look like a spammer on that forum

bjyaritz

07-18-2009, 01:24 PM

disco_stu

07-18-2009, 01:27 PM

Edited

Avatar_Ko

07-18-2009, 01:29 PM

thats funny! I'm no spammer, just a fan.

He's saying you look like a spammer. The overly-cordial tone, the wall of text and the linkspam at the bottom. Just pointing it out.

sonicnerd23

07-18-2009, 01:34 PM

I hope this goes well.

bjyaritz

07-18-2009, 01:39 PM

The problem is that I'm 29 yrs old and really don't understand all this computer lingo. So maybe my message isn't perfect but at least I'm trying. I hope that some more people will reply on the forum and show some support.

pittpens6627

07-18-2009, 01:50 PM

Wasn't one of the rumors floating around that they weren't comfortable releasing the master tracks? This would solve that issue, if it were true

Edit: whoops, should have read the link first. Sorry for being redundant

Meatwad555

07-18-2009, 02:42 PM

Won't work.

Skode

07-18-2009, 02:50 PM

The more people push Jimmy Page the more hes gonna detest all things Rythm games

tool654

07-18-2009, 02:52 PM

Page already doesnt want his songs in a music game, so, no.

disco_stu

07-18-2009, 02:54 PM

Edited

Lawdog1521

07-18-2009, 02:58 PM

When i'm 50 and some teenager says he likes similar stuff to me, i'll show him who else he might like. I won't tell him to gtfo my era 'cause you weren't there.

I’ll be to busy screaming at kids to get off my lawn and reminiscing about how candy was a nickel in my day. (What’s the point of being old if I can't be obnoxious?)

tool654

07-18-2009, 02:59 PM

I’ll be to busy screaming at kids to get off my lawn and reminiscing about how candy was a nickel in my day. (What’s the point of being old if I can't be obnoxious?)

There probably isnt a point.

disco_stu

07-18-2009, 02:59 PM

Abe Simpson-esque outbursts do appeal to me actually.

l-o-t

07-18-2009, 03:00 PM

Kay, NO! I own a PS3 and will not be getting any of these fan made tracks. If Zeppelin allows access to their songs via this method, you will have many, many irate PS3 owners. Mostly me!

disco_stu

07-18-2009, 03:07 PM

I own a PS3. I'm just not selfish

l-o-t

07-18-2009, 03:11 PM

I own a PS3. I'm just not selfish

Perhaps. But for me Xbox Getting Zeppelin and none for me would be the worst. It's bad enough we don't get All you need is Love.
Or we'd have to get some exclusive band for compensation. Like Queen.

cherokeesam

07-18-2009, 03:14 PM

Kay, NO! I own a PS3 and will not be getting any of these fan made tracks. If Zeppelin allows access to their songs via this method, you will have many, many irate PS3 owners. Mostly me!

What "fan-made tracks?"
That's not how RBN works. At all.
EVERYTHING that's uploaded has to be vetted by peer review and HMX's own QA. EVERY track that's uploaded *must* be copyrighted by the uploader --- i.e., if you don't own the rights, "your" song doesn't get released. Period. That goes for samples, too.

No way in hell are we gonna see "fan-made tracks" on RBN. Just original material. (And possibly parodies could be legally wrangled in -- that's still a gray area that hasn't been explored yet.)

Meatwad555

07-18-2009, 03:15 PM

Who posted a link to this thread?

l-o-t

07-18-2009, 03:19 PM

What "fan-made tracks?"
That's not how RBN works. At all.
EVERYTHING that's uploaded has to be vetted by peer review and HMX's own QA. EVERY track that's uploaded *must* be copyrighted by the uploader --- i.e., if you don't own the rights, "your" song doesn't get released. Period. That goes for samples, too.

No way in hell are we gonna see "fan-made tracks" on RBN. Just original material. (And possibly parodies could be legally wrangled in -- that's still a gray area that hasn't been explored yet.)

Ah, I thought it was like the GH music studio. My mistake.

I bassically just saw "Xbox exclusive" and stopped reading/careing.

Meatwad555

07-18-2009, 03:31 PM

Ah, I thought it was like the GH music studio. My mistake.

I bassically just saw "Xbox exclusive" and stopped reading/careing.

It isn't Xbox exclusive...

Sgt Pepper

07-18-2009, 03:44 PM

l-o-t

07-18-2009, 03:49 PM

It isn't Xbox exclusive...

Yeah... after actually reading some articals on it I see this now and am actually really quite excited for this development. I have no doubt that any track worth getting will be made availible to non-Xbox owners.

Legion37

07-18-2009, 03:51 PM

Here's something I'm not understanding about people thinking Pink Floyd or Led Zeppelin are suddenly going to jump on-- It seems to me that the RBN is for bands that might not otherwise be released by Harmonix. The Billboard article said it was being implemented because they don't the time to work in all the bands they want. If Led Zep approached Harmonix, trust me, they'd make time.

I'm not even remotely expecting to see big bands released over the RBN-- it just increased accessibility, something the big names already had.

Sounds 100% correct.

Hell I know there are great charters out there that chart illegally used mp3s for games like Frets on Fire that could now use this as a possible business venture (charge a rediculously low amount to program the indie/unknown bands songs into Rockband and cut a precent of the profit made on the downloads. Or something along those lines that get these artists their time to shine and known.

But yeah if its a big band or well known then HMX will make time for them.

Now someone work on some Motorpsychos now! :mad::p

Yeah... after actually reading some articals on it I see this now and am actually really quite excited for this development. I have no doubt that any track worth getting will be made availible to non-Xbox owners.

Says right in the article that well done charts/game levels or whatever you like to call it will be provided to the other systems

bjyaritz

07-18-2009, 09:59 PM

It's really strange how out of whack a thread can get after a couple hours.

Explosion2

07-18-2009, 10:14 PM

Hell I know there are great charters out there that chart illegally used mp3s for games like Frets on Fire that could now use this as a possible business venture (charge a rediculously low amount to program the indie/unknown bands songs into Rockband and cut a precent of the profit made on the downloads. Or something along those lines that get these artists their time to shine and known.

It's already been put in motion. (http://www.rhythmauthors.com/)

Zep would be very cool, though.
If this means they'd be willing to get into Rock Band, I'm all for it.

Tego1in

07-18-2009, 10:27 PM

Led doesn't want to be on RB much less their company.

Magik_Tek

07-18-2009, 10:41 PM

Ah, I thought it was like the GH music studio. My mistake.

I bassically just saw "Xbox exclusive" and stopped reading/careing.

If you're not going to even bother reading than don't post such nonsense.

Skittles

07-18-2009, 11:42 PM

Who posted a link to this thread?
there is a traitor among us

Ferocious Q

07-19-2009, 12:59 AM

I frankly don't see this working...

sandswipe

07-19-2009, 01:32 AM

This couldn't possibly work. They're British, and RBN requires the artists to be american right now.

Lawl01

07-19-2009, 01:34 AM

Why are people pushing still this? If Page has repeatedly said they don't want to be in any rhythm games, why keep bringing this up?

bjyaritz

07-19-2009, 11:14 AM

This couldn't possibly work. They're British, and RBN requires the artists to be american right now.
Zeppelin is more popular in America than in England. They signed with American Record Co. Atlantic. Where your from won't make a difference. They speak English.

ForgottenHero

07-19-2009, 11:34 AM

I gotta admit, while I'm with others here who have a lot of doubt in the RBN doing anything for getting Zep in the game, the responses to the OP's thread on the Zep boards actually had some....ready for it? REASON!

Lol, the first couple replies are a bit sarcastic, but there are others who actually understand that if Zep was ever in the game, it wouldn't be a bad thing, as so many Zep fans suggest.

siee

07-19-2009, 12:17 PM

Never gonna happen and for good reason too.

Rastabot

07-19-2009, 02:25 PM

Never gonna happen and for good reason too.

Whats the good reason?

disco_stu

07-19-2009, 04:33 PM

The good reason is that Led Zep's music is on an untouchable pedestal that is not to be tarnished.

Whether that is the case, and whether it would be tarnished is up for debate.

Seems like the guys at the Zep forum are much more easy going than "elitist douchers" fair play to them on that.

Milchmonster

07-19-2009, 04:38 PM

What do you think will happen? They put up their entire discography?

Dude, HMX or Activision would do like everything Zeppelin wants to make a game with their music and they know this. They won't put their stuff up on a ****ing online marketplace...

meta4ikl

07-19-2009, 06:01 PM

Since there are many claims to ownership of a number of songs published by Zeppelin, I doubt we'll ever see them in any game.

Kariodude

07-19-2009, 06:30 PM

This is just funny. I think some popular signed artists will make their way to RBN, but Led Zeppelin is the least likely band there is.

You're essentially saying that Zeppelin won't sit back and do nothing for free money, but they would totally go for the idea of paying someone else to make charts of their songs and then get a smaller cut than they would have doing nothing. There is no logic that could possible support that theory.

disco_stu

07-19-2009, 07:13 PM

Any significant happening in the "Rock Band story" will be constrewed someway into a question which will almost inevitably be "Does that mean Zep might be coming to RB?"

I'm 100% for trying to get Zep onboard. But as a realist i'd say it won't happen

Grimmja

07-19-2009, 07:44 PM

The more people push Jimmy Page the more hes gonna detest all things Rythm games

This.

We go from a Zero Percent chance of seeing Zepp in a music game to negatives. Page will sic the thinkpol on you for wanting Led Zeppelin in a music game. Ironically, by doing this, less people will push him to get into Rock Band, so our chances will go back to zero.

Hm. Strange cycle, admittedly.

moose39

07-19-2009, 08:15 PM

Anymore, I doubt we're going to see Zeppelin.

ESPECIALLY through the RBN.

Xenigma

07-19-2009, 08:31 PM

If Led Zeppelin is going to be on Rock Band, I'd expect something like The Beatles: Rock Band, not an RBN release. I don't know what the chances of the band ever making it into the game are, but if they do, I'd expect special treatment for such a huge property.

bjyaritz

07-19-2009, 09:18 PM

Soja

07-19-2009, 09:59 PM

Jimmy Page is gonna tear you a new one, then lock your thread.

Hahahahaha.

Grimmja

07-19-2009, 09:59 PM

I think it's really sad just how many negative people are on this site replying. Whats wrong with some positive thinking. No one knows what can and will happen. Except that RBN lives and the chances of Zep only got better with it.

Oh, I agree. My previous reply was sparked by boredom and sarcasm.

Attacking the guy for trying? I mean, come on. Is it going to get Jimmy Page to budge? No, I don't think it will. But the self-righteous superiority complex being demonstrated in some of these posts is simply frightening.

bjyaritz

07-19-2009, 10:47 PM

Jimmy Page is gonna tear you a new one, then lock your thread.

Hahahahaha.

It's funny how so many people are just like you and think they know Jimmy Page because you can read 1 negatively spoken article. Part of everything is the media and they ALWAYS skew things to make a reader go WOW. If it's not written in a book, it's probably not worth reading. I started this thread for the fans of Zep and for Rock Band. Not for sour souls to talk smack or talk about knowing the facts about another persons feelings. Just for some excitement for positive fans alone. I own every LZ album, seen em live, listened to them my entire life, yet I don't know them anymore then anyone else outside of their circle. And will never claim to.

Soja

07-20-2009, 04:21 AM

It's funny how so many people are just like you and think they know Jimmy Page because you can read 1 negatively spoken article. Part of everything is the media and they ALWAYS skew things to make a reader go WOW. If it's not written in a book, it's probably not worth reading. I started this thread for the fans of Zep and for Rock Band. Not for sour souls to talk smack or talk about knowing the facts about another persons feelings. Just for some excitement for positive fans alone. I own every LZ album, seen em live, listened to them my entire life, yet I don't know them anymore then anyone else outside of their circle. And will never claim to.Hey, you can blame the media or you can blame the man. The things he said have been backed up by other opinions of his on the record regarding digital distribution and licensing, especially to games. The way a man represents himself is his responsibility; the media couldn't have skewed THAT in a positive way, I'm sure, barring omission.

That said, I'm sure Mein Kampf is a worthy read, since it's a book. :rolleyes: </GodwinsLaw>

Anyway, I didn't claim to know Jimmy, either. I simply made an extrapolation based on previous opinions that he has made public, and in a strong manner, no less.

Der_Lex

07-20-2009, 06:32 PM

Samuel346

07-20-2009, 06:43 PM

Articles like this (http://www.starpulse.com/news/index.php/2009/07/20/jimmy_page_explains_why_led_zeppelin_won) don't exactly make it sound like there's much hope. I personally think Mr Page thinks a bit too highly of his own music, but then again I never really though Led Zep was the greatest thing to ever happen to rock either, as plenty of others seem to do. Still, it sucks for the many fans who'd love to play the songs in a rhythm game.

If I liked Led Zeppelin, with that article, I can assure you I would stop liking them.

That guys' ego is among the worst I've ever seen.

I think he's in fear of the fact that his music really wouldn't be THAT hard on the GH/RB scale. And it scares him.

65 years old, going on 10.

Samuel346

07-20-2009, 06:49 PM

On the topic of "big bands in RBN"...

I'm not trying to burst anyone's bubble but RBN, at least for now, is going to be a Garage/HMX band based thing.
I really think it's HIGHLY UNLIKELY that "BIG bands" would be on the RBN as opposed to the PSN/LIVE store.

There is an EXCEPTION when it comes to NIN. I think RBN will be big hit for NIN and other artists that are trying to BREAK AWAY from their current band.
Tom DeLonge would be an example of someone that would probably use it, but I wouldn't hope for Blink 182 songs to be on it, just some of his lesser known acts that he's trying to promote.

A band like "Pink Floyd" isn't going to say. "Hey guys, now WE can do the work to get our band into a game, instead of someone else! Let's do it".

XTommyDonX

07-20-2009, 08:02 PM

Just stop the effort for those overrated jerks. Seriously, they'd hate allowing the use of their songs in any game, just like the also completely out of touch Prince and Jack White (who is featured more in GH and RB than most other artists).

It won't happen.

RealMessiah

07-20-2009, 08:07 PM

I just made a post on the Led Zeppelin Official Forum. I will post the link. Drop on by and show your support Zep and Rock Band fans!

http://forums.ledzeppelin.com/index.php?showtopic=11355

Just today I read a new story where Page again confirms his music will not make it into the music games...He said their music is simply too difficult...seriously...Maybe it is already posted in this thread or this forum, but here is the link...

http://www.starpulse.com/news/index.php/2009/07/20/jimmy_page_explains_why_led_zeppelin_won

Grimmja

07-20-2009, 09:57 PM

Just today I read a new story where Page again confirms his music will not make it into the music games...He said their music is simply too difficult...seriously...Maybe it is already posted in this thread or this forum, but here is the link...

http://www.starpulse.com/news/index.php/2009/07/20/jimmy_page_explains_why_led_zeppelin_won

You know, Page might be right. We should sample certain Zep songs to ensure that he is right.

http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=1E3EFE2AE077357E

FC THAT, ukog!

yaniv297

08-04-2009, 04:49 PM

Just today I read a new story where Page again confirms his music will not make it into the music games...He said their music is simply too difficult...seriously...Maybe it is already posted in this thread or this forum, but here is the link...

http://www.starpulse.com/news/index.php/2009/07/20/jimmy_page_explains_why_led_zeppelin_won

He is just wrong... so many RB drummers around the world can FC "Won't Get Fooled Again", so why not Led Zeppelin stuff?

LyokoFreaks

08-04-2009, 05:55 PM

Hey, you can blame the media or you can blame the man. The things he said have been backed up by other opinions of his on the record regarding digital distribution and licensing, especially to games. The way a man represents himself is his responsibility; the media couldn't have skewed THAT in a positive way, I'm sure, barring omission.

That said, I'm sure Mein Kampf is a worthy read, since it's a book. :rolleyes: </GodwinsLaw>

Anyway, I didn't claim to know Jimmy, either. I simply made an extrapolation based on previous opinions that he has made public, and in a strong manner, no less.

You're denying the antecedent with that Mein Kampf comment. </ArgumentFail>

On topic: Anything we can do to convince him is worth trying. He really needs to go for it and let the songs be in the game. Just because kids aren't playing "real instruments" doesn't mean anything. Most kids my age have never even heard of Led Zeppelin, so this kind of exposure (being in RB) would be great for the band. I do remember hearing the argument about the master tracks, though it's not like they'll be falling into the wrong hands or anything if the band works with HMX or RA. Dave said it best when he commented about these "dinosaur bands" needing to get their act together and get their songs in these games.

Runesmith

08-04-2009, 07:40 PM

Just today I read a new story where Page again confirms his music will not make it into the music games...He said their music is simply too difficult...seriously...Maybe it is already posted in this thread or this forum, but here is the link...

http://www.starpulse.com/news/index.php/2009/07/20/jimmy_page_explains_why_led_zeppelin_won

Hah! Jimmy is one of the sloppiest guitarists I've ever heard, and I listen to a megaton of messy punk rock...

OrdealByFire

08-04-2009, 10:20 PM

Anyone else notice the first guy that posted on that thread registered 11-20-07? The day Rock Band came out?

UHOH!

lucaspaul22

08-06-2009, 05:09 AM

You know, Page might be right. We should sample certain Zep songs to ensure that he is right.

http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=1E3EFE2AE077357E

FC THAT, ukog!

Yea, that's awesome. Too bad GH sucks.

solidsnakejt

08-06-2009, 08:14 AM

yeah sure jimmy....your songs are too hard for the game...
inflated head much ?

DrRock69

08-06-2009, 08:52 AM

jimmy page is such a dickhead... its not like the music is played exactly the same as real guitar or drums....after all it is just a game, im sure in time the mighty zepplin will follow suit and cave into rockband

Riddycal

08-06-2009, 04:24 PM

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