Within You Without You/Tomorrow Never Knows

[hardb0dy]

That is the most brilliant dreamscape.
Bring on the Diamonds Lucy! We're going to the Sky!!
Yeeeaaaa!!

[BLARGCOW]

I guess that rumored list of the 15 songs are true.

[timmay9]

Absolutely terrible on-disc choice.

[harveyglobetrot]

Mixed in with all the relatively big name songs, I'm sure it got a spot in the trailer based largely on the brilliant dreamscape. Of the other 7 rumoured songs that will apparently be announced this week, With A Little From My Friends definitely, and Birthday and And Your Bird Can Sing probably have more name recognition. Until I saw that dreamscape, there's no way I would have included that in the trailer.

Well done, the HMX art and design teams!

[l-o-t]

I hope we see Tomorrow never Knows on it's own at some point. Not that I'm not stoked on this version, mind you, I 'd just like to sing the original and see that dreamscape as well.

[elitemastersam]

Absolutely terrible on-disc choice.
Agreed. And one that I didn't think would be included in a million years. That is the one Beatles song I want to remove from my memory. The one song on an awesome album that has to be skipped every time I play it. I was never especially fond of Yellow Submarine, but that song is so much better than Within You Without You in my opinion.

I want to see more songs that aren't so well known, but that one?

[cutmaclass]

Within You Without You is a beautiful song. I'm impressed that Harmonix cared enough to give the song the attention it deserves. One of Harrison's best, if not definitively his best, Beatles songs.

I can't believe people here dislike it :eek:

[Doesany1rememberlaughter]

Those songs deserve respect because of how extremely influential they are. The combination of cultures that the Beatles used and fused it with rock. Those songs are brilliant in their own right.

[hardb0dy]

Within You Without You is a beautiful song. I'm impressed that Harmonix cared enough to give the song the attention it deserves. One of Harrison's best, if not definitively his best, Beatles songs.

I can't believe people here dislike it :eek:

I agree. This is my second favorite song, just behind While My Guitar Gently Weeps. I have to admit though, I am surprised to see it -- and I'll take any version of it I can get (Tomorrow Never Knows is my third favorite song). So that's 4 out of 10 confirmed from my wishlist!

http://www.rockband.com/forums/showthread.php?t=152395

[Dante1847]

Absolutely terrible on-disc choice.

we get it

[Julio_Strikes_Back]

Absolutely terrible on-disc choice.

Wha....? That's my favorite mash-up on the entire album.

[pelemerengue]

I'm surprised they're including it as a Love remix. It's kind of a bold move, considering it's technically not an original Beatles recording, per se (rather, it's several different Beatles recordings nestled together as one song).

That said, Love is an amazing album and "Within You Without You/Tomorrow Never Knows" is one of the best tracks on it. From the looks of the dreamscape, the accompanying visuals couldn't be more perfect, either.

I don't understand why this is getting hate, either. "Within You Without You" on its own is a great track, and the remix with the "Tomorrow Never Knows" drums should make for a fantastic Rock Band song.

[Rod_Stixx]

Not one of my top favorites, but I do enjoy the song quite a bit. It will be a good choice for the game, and fun to play. Sweet job on the dreamscape, too.

[muteki]

I would have preferred that all on-disc songs be the original recordings and save the remixes for DLC. But hey, win some, lose some I guess...

[timmay9]

Wha....? That's my favorite mash-up on the entire album.

Don't get me wrong, I greatly enjoy listening to it. But it's not one of the first 100 Beatles songs I think of playing on plastic instruments.

[Dante1847]

Not one of my top favorites, but I do enjoy the song quite a bit. It will be a good choice for the game, and fun to play. Sweet job on the dreamscape, too.

again, think of its inclusion as an indication that other sitar-based songs will also be on disc.

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[elitemastersam]

Don't get me wrong, I greatly enjoy listening to it. But it's not one of the first 100 Beatles songs I think of playing on plastic instruments.
It's not one of the first 100 Beatles songs I think of singing either. It's one that would put me to sleep. It is a bit of a meditative song.

[pupsdaddy]

Think about it: a lot of people will never get DLC - for those folks, the original version of Within You Without You would've been pretty lame on drums. Put the more challenging mashup Love version on the disc, then make the original version available on DLC.

Gutsy move, but I like it.

[Jorm]

It's not my favorite but I don't mind it's inclusion. You'd have to expect that with Dhani as an evangelist to Apple Corps, we'd see Harrison tracks prominent on disc.

I'm mostly interested by the precedent it sets- will we see more Love remixes? Possibly Love as a full album download?

[Dante1847]

just hope it at least is a sign of things to come...like, say, "Norwegian Wood"

[elitemastersam]

just hope it at least is a sign of things to come...like, say, "Norwegian Wood"
It would be interesting to see a drum track added to that classic song. But what drum track would they use?

[Dante1847]

It would be interesting to see a drum track added to that classic song. But what drum track would they use?

im as unsure as you are, though I myself would not have a problem if it they completed omitted it (taboo thinking, I know...)

[Dr._Frasier_Crane]

The one song on an awesome album that has to be skipped every time I play it.

That would be When I'm Sixty-Four. I absolutely cannot stand that song.

Maybe I'm biased because George is my favorite Beatle (Savoy Truffle and Don't Bother Me are my favorite Beatles songs, which I know makes me weird), but I don't get why everyone complains about Within You Without You, and I never see anything negative about any Lennon and McCartney songs.

[Dr._Frasier_Crane]

I would like to add that I believe that nobody should be allowed to complain about the inclusion of any George Harrison songs in the game, seeing as if it had not been for his son this game wouldn't even exist.

[vcalzone]

Anyone complaining: This song WAS included almost exclusively for the visuals. They needed a song with sitar to evoke the India years and transcendental meditation. The choice was between this song and Love You To. And neither was really suitable for the game. Fortunately, Giles Martin had already solved the problem a few years back. And so we have a playable track that fits the gorgeous, GORGEOUS animation that we have to look forward to.

Seriously, when reviewers start reviewing the game, you will see every single one gushing over these animations. Had to match them with something appropriate.

[GloiGloi]

I really like this mashup. I'm sure that at every stage of the game we are going to see a careful balance of songs from John Paul George and Ringo because that's how things go at Apple these days, and I like this being included in a way to allow one of George' s more Indian flavoured songs in that wouldn't have really been possible to play in the game with the original recording.

[Skode]

That is the most brilliant dreamscape.
Bring on the Diamonds Lucy! We're going to the Sky!!
Yeeeaaaa!!

This... Mrs Skodes fave song from the band is Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds. If thats announced she will reach explosion point with excitement for September

[ThePenguin]

I think this is AWESOME. The dreamscape is so trippy and relaxing and beautiful. And the song will be great to sing, IMO.

[RockBandRocker]

I just wish the songs were separate so that we could be able to (possibly) have the full Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band and Revolver albums in the game.

Maybe we can get the separate versions as DLC?

[chrth_rb]

That would be When I'm Sixty-Four. I absolutely cannot stand that song.

Maybe I'm biased because George is my favorite Beatle (Savoy Truffle and Don't Bother Me are my favorite Beatles songs, which I know makes me weird), but I don't get why everyone complains about Within You Without You, and I never see anything negative about any Lennon and McCartney songs.

Within You Without You breaks up the Sgt. Pepper CD*. For what's supposed to be the first concept album it doesn't really fit in with the rest of the songs. Only a Northern Song would've worked better (although it actually was supposed to be on the first side and wouldn't have replaced Within You Without You, so ignore what I just said). Now, that's not Harrison's fault; the concept album idea never really went past the opening and the reprise**. But the perception still lingers that it's supposed to be a concept album, so expectations are there.

*The effect is less "jarring" (for lack of a better word) on the album, since Within You Without You starts off the second side. There's a similar (although not as blatant) issue with the CD of Abbey Road where Here Comes the Sun follows I Want You immediately, instead of being after a record flip, making the end of I Want You seem very jarring.

**I am of belief that A Day in the Life is actually not on the Sgt. Pepper album, and that it ends with the reprise. I'd try to explain it more, but it probably requires alcohol on both of our ends to make sense.

[whofan]

Within You Without You breaks up the Sgt. Pepper CD*. For what's supposed to be the first concept album it doesn't really fit in with the rest of the songs. Only a Northern Song would've worked better (although it actually was supposed to be on the first side and wouldn't have replaced Within You Without You, so ignore what I just said). Now, that's not Harrison's fault; the concept album idea never really went past the opening and the reprise**. But the perception still lingers that it's supposed to be a concept album, so expectations are there.

*The effect is less "jarring" (for lack of a better word) on the album, since Within You Without You starts off the second side. There's a similar (although not as blatant) issue with the CD of Abbey Road where Here Comes the Sun follows I Want You immediately, instead of being after a record flip, making the end of I Want You seem very jarring.

**I am of belief that A Day in the Life is actually not on the Sgt. Pepper album, and that it ends with the reprise. I'd try to explain it more, but it probably requires alcohol on both of our ends to make sense.
Similar to "Her Majesty" isn't on Abbey Road to me.

To me, Abbey Road ended with "The End".

But hey, that's just me.

[chrth_rb]

Similar to "Her Majesty" isn't on Abbey Road to me.

To me, Abbey Road ended with "The End".

But hey, that's just me.

I have a whole theory that you can compare/contrast the ends of Sgt Pepper, The Beatles (White Album), and Abbey Road as different views about death and the afterlife.

[GloiGloi]

I have a whole theory that you can compare/contrast the ends of Sgt Pepper, The Beatles (White Album), and Abbey Road as different views about death and the afterlife.

I think you could add Revolver to that theory too!

[deadpool247]

Within You Without You is a beautiful song. I'm impressed that Harmonix cared enough to give the song the attention it deserves. One of Harrison's best, if not definitively his best, Beatles songs.

I can't believe people here dislike it :eek:

Yeah. Why all the hate for this song...I really like it.

[deadpool247]

I have a whole theory that you can compare/contrast the ends of Sgt Pepper, The Beatles (White Album), and Abbey Road as different views about death and the afterlife.

Interesting. I'd like to read this. Shoot me a message with your theory, man.

[ThePenguin]

Hey, guys. I know one song that nobody is talking about being on the disc ; I'm Down!! One of the best songs of the Beatles, ever!

It would be awesome if we had I'm Down at Shea Stadium:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwqTrtri1J0
And then we'd have to sing the wrong lyrics in the harmony! But I'm not sure they'd do this, because John is playing keyboards.

[chrth_rb]

Interesting. I'd like to read this. Shoot me a message with your theory, man.

Er, when I said I had a "whole theory", it was more of a "something I have in my brain" kinda thing, not actually written down :o

It goes something like this:

each of the three albums have a sequence that is resembles death and the afterlife. For Sgt. Pepper, A Day in the Life is actually 2 days, and whatever is turning you on in the first part is killing you in the second part -- alarm clock (waking up the next morning) vs the long chord (not waking up the next morning). The out groove on the album (replicated on the CD) is the cacophony of afterlife existence (and may also be a hint at the idea that "Hell is repetition"), and the comment "never could be any other way" harkens to the notion that afterlife existence is an immutable whole regardless of why you got there (i.e. no heaven or hell).

On the White Album, you have Cry Baby Cry's ending ("can you take me where I came from? Can you take me back?"), which is an allusion to the idea that being dead is the same state of existence as that of before you're born -- there's a suicide implication here, but it's unformed in my mind. Revolution 9 represents a sort of hell/purgatory (see previous comments about "Hell is repetition" and the cacophony of afterlife) ... but Good Night is Heaven, or at least a positive idea of death -- so Revolution 9 could be more like purgatory since you do get to Heaven (even faster if you hit the Skip button on your CD/mp3 player).

As for Abbey Road, you obviously begin and end with The End being The End. The Mr. Mustard chord is the moment of transition into the afterlife of Her Majesty. Frankly, this part is the least developed in the theory, as Her Majesty is actually kind of straightforward so it resists potential interpretations as to what it's saying about the afterlife.

Then again, considering Her Majesty was actually resurrected after being killed, maybe it's just symbolic of life after death?

[hardb0dy]

This... Mrs Skodes fave song from the band is Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds. If thats announced she will reach explosion point with excitement for September

Hope it makes it in the game! There's only 20 songs left to be announced...

[mf1993]

I wasn't expecting a Beatles song that is made in the 21st century. Oh, well.

[RADIO CHRIS]

excellent decision putting the Love version in the game

[DookieMan]

Inb4RealLove

mf1993, did you really have to bump this? How did you even come across it?