People who play real drums/are playing on expert:

[ParliamentFunkadelic]

I have already replaced my drums once, and am thinking about doing it again. I was wondering if there are legitimately functioning drumsets out there that actually pick up the faster/ harder hits. Once you get to the harder songs, do your pads register all of the fast rolls?
I am wondering if it is worth going through the replacement process again if there are not sets that are 100% yet?

[darkforcesjedi]

I thought my replacement drums worked ok. It registers much more rapid hits than the old set, but still not fast enough. If I use my fingers and poke it right in the center it will register about 4 hits / second. Using the drumsticks it registers about 2 hits per second.:mad:

[davidshek]

I have already replaced my drums once, and am thinking about doing it again. I was wondering if there are legitimately functioning drumsets out there that actually pick up the faster/ harder hits. Once you get to the harder songs, do your pads register all of the fast rolls?
I am wondering if it is worth going through the replacement process again if there are not sets that are 100% yet?

I actually got really lucky and got a 100% working set right outta the box. Every hit registers, fast or slow, hard or soft, on every pad.

So yes, they are out there :)

[Odwill]

I had to tape down my red pad just to finish the tour on hard let alone expert and this was on a replacement set. My first set was horrible, this one is a bit better. Seems to be working good the way I have it now with the tape. I am going to get another replacement after the holidays.

[ParliamentFunkadelic]

thanks guys. so there is hope for a perfect set..... maybe I will send out for another replacement.

p.s.- what do you guys think of the pedal, do you think they should make it so it requires less effort to register a hit, either for Rock band 2 or for the replacements?

[Odwill]

thanks guys. so there is hope for a perfect set..... maybe I will send out for another replacement.

p.s.- what do you guys think of the pedal, do you think they should make it so it requires less effort to register a hit, either for Rock band 2 or for the replacements?

The feeling of the kick pedal is total different than my Iron cobras or any other real kick pedal. I had a PDE kick pedal that I modded with just a spring and some wire to work with the game. The RB pedal fatigued me quite a bit after a few hours of play. I mean it is a game, it was ruining the fun factor for me. Now I can play for hours and hours if I want to without destroying my ankle.

[Muuse]

i can't really tell if it's a calibration/lag factor.... or if my drums aren't sensitive enough... but overall they pick up most of my hits... i play real drums and am on expert (though i'm only up to around song 20 solo tour.. i'm almost done with guitar-expert). if i find it's a real problem once i start doing the drums more often i'll experiment with the calibration and/or taping the pads down.

i personally despise the pedal.
and will have to come up with some alternative before i can beat harder songs.

[Odwill]

i can't really tell if it's a calibration/lag factor.... or if my drums aren't sensitive enough... but overall they pick up most of my hits... i play real drums and am on expert (though i'm only up to around song 20 solo tour.. i'm almost done with guitar-expert). if i find it's a real problem once i start doing the drums more often i'll experiment with the calibration and/or taping the pads down.

i personally despise the pedal.
and will have to come up with some alternative before i can beat harder songs.

If you have an extra kick pedal laying around it takes 20 minutes to convert it to work with RB if you have a spring and some wire. I could post a pic here showing mine if you would like.

[lucifer vandross]

If you have an extra kick pedal laying around it takes 20 minutes to convert it to work with RB if you have a spring and some wire. I could post a pic here showing mine if you would like.


please do!

actually i don';t have a spare pedal but i could probably grab a cheap one.

i know i am going to make myself a laughing stock, but i guess i have to risk it...

i really play drums and i don't suck (honestly i had a really picky teacher and he didn't think i sucked)

i can do the main rythem parts but i can't read the solos and fills fast enough... any suggestiosn? example? i tried mpas on hard and just the opening i was failing because my mind couldn't comprehend what was going on on the screen. should i practice in a slower speed and literally memorise the songs?

[Shady515]

my foot pedal snapped in half a while ago and I have my replacement now. The replacement foot pedal I got has a thinner spring-making it easier to press on with your foot. Nice. I'm still waiting for my guitar and drum kit, so I can't really tell you if it works better or not, but the spring is about half as thick as it used to be.

[Bakkster]

I've never drummed before, didn't have to return my drums, and can still pass Flirtin with Disaster on expert drums in the mid to high 90% range. I'm not trying to brag, but my drum set has no problems with the fast hits that make a lot of the song.

So to answer your question, yes, there are 100% operational drum kits.

[Odwill]

please do!

actually i don';t have a spare pedal but i could probably grab a cheap one.

i know i am going to make myself a laughing stock, but i guess i have to risk it...

i really play drums and i don't suck (honestly i had a really picky teacher and he didn't think i sucked)

i can do the main rythem parts but i can't read the solos and fills fast enough... any suggestiosn? example? i tried mpas on hard and just the opening i was failing because my mind couldn't comprehend what was going on on the screen. should i practice in a slower speed and literally memorise the songs?

First of all I know how you feel. It took me a good week getting used to reading the charts in the game. Playing a song from memory on a real kit and playing one from the charts in this game is way way different. Defiantly go into practice mode and go through the motions. It will help your chart reading skills a ton since you already have good stick skills.

For MAPS in general the kick drum is pretty easy, you just ride it in 8th notes pretty much the entire song. For the chorus there is a Triplet Feel played on the ride cymbal (green pad) every other measure. I found it difficult to do with just one hand at first because there is very little rebound from the pad, not like hitting a real ride which would make it easy. So I cross sticked and hit the triplets with my right hand too until I got use to the crappy rebound. Now I am able to just play that part with my right hand.

So onto the kick pedal...

This is version 1.0 of my pedal. I am going to make a few tweaks to it and clean it up a bit so it looks better but in its current state it works very very nice.

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c259/Odwill/DSCF0128.jpg

Ok here is what you want to do. The spare pedal I had is a PDE. I think paid like 30 bucks at Musicians Friend for it. It is pretty good quality for the price. I used it at a few gigs on real drums and it held up great so I imagine it will be fine for the game for a long time to come.

Step 1: Get a 1/8 inch mono/phono pug. It will looks just like the plug on the stock pedal where it plugs into the game. I got mine with a 6' cord for 3 bucks at Radio Shack. Strip the one end to bare wire. Cut back enough of the insulation so you can separate the two leads. Set this a side for now.

Step 2: Find a spring. You will want one about 3 - 4 inches long. If you have a longer one you can cut it down.

Step 3: Take a small block of wood that will fit in the base of the pedal. I used a 1" x 2" x 4" piece of poplar I had left over from when I made a replacement foot-board for the stock pedal. Drill a hole in the wood just large enough to fit the spring into it. I used a dab of hot-glue to keep it snug in the hole. I also used two polyurethane bushing I had laying around and glued them to the bottom of the chunk of wood at the front to elevate it at the angle the pedal would be at fully depressed.

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c259/Odwill/DSCF0131.jpg

Step 4: Get your wire with the 1/8 mono jack, attach one end to the spring and the other end some where on the foot-board. I just have the wire twisted arround the spring for now but I am going to solider it later on. Then I used a piece of speaker wire I had to extend the wire running to the foot-board and secured it with a self-tapping peanut screw in the side of the foot-board near the hinge.

Step 5: Now if your pedal is painted like mine was, be sure to sand away the pain where you attach the wire with the screw or you will not get a good connection. The same thing will have to be done where the spring is going to contact the foot-board. If you take both ends of the wire and touch them together with the game on you will see it will trigger the kick pedal in the game. Thats all we are doing here. When the foot-board hits the spring it completes the circuit just like touching the wires together.

Step 6: You will need to make a stopper for the pedal much like the rubber stoppers on the stock pedal that came with the game. I used two rubber stoppers I had laying around and cut them in half. I am sure you could use about anything for this like cork or anything else that is flexible. I cut the stoppers so the pedal would hit them about 1" before the pedal would bottom out on the mounting bracket.

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c259/Odwill/DSCF0132.jpg


Step 7: Now comes a bit of a tricky part but it isn't that bad, just takes a few tries to get things adjusted right. Slide the block of wood forward or backward until the spring hits the bottom of the foot-board about 1" before it hits the rubber stoppers. If you move it too far forward you may get some double triggers because the spring doesn't compress enough. If it is too far back then you may miss some fast kicks because you didn't let the pedal come up high enough to break contact with the spring and make a new contact.


Good luck, let me know if you have any questions about the process.



Just for fun here is a pic of my modded Rock Band kick pedal.

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c259/Odwill/DSCF0135.jpg

I just cut the foot-pedal out of a 1" piece of poplar and glued some 100 grit emery cloth on top of it for grip. It is always good to have a backup!

[ParliamentFunkadelic]

damn man, good work.I am too lazy to get all that stuff and make it......... but I would buy it from you...lol

[neo666]

Anyone want to try a double pedal on this mod?

From my understanding, it would be the same set up essentially, just make 2 of the cables, with both pedals, and use a y splitter. would love to see this for blackened