Bleach before (rest of) Nevermind?

[Ramirez16]

Nirvana’s “Bleach” on “Rock Band”? Sub Pop Looks to Code Catalogs Into Playable Tracks (http://www.rollingstone.com/rockdaily/index.php/2009/07/22/nirvanas-bleach-on-rock-band-sub-pop-looks-to-code-catalogs-into-playable-tracks/)

7/22/09, 1:04 pm EST

Music video games like Rock Band and Guitar Hero have become the new stars of American culture. But fans of cult or indie music like, say, the Melvins, can’t exactly inhabit their inner Buzz because rhythm game music catalogs offer a tiny fraction of recorded music. This week however, the newly announced Rock Band Network introduced the option for anyone with a tune to try to get their songs added to the Rock Band shop. Legendary Seattle indie label Sub Pop has already said they’re interested and many labels are sure to follow.

Sub Pop A&R executive Tony Kiewel is an avid Rock Band aficionado and said the storied label is investing in equipment this week to turn songs into playable tracks. Sub Pop albums like Nirvana’s Bleach or the new record from the Shins could be part of Rock Band by Fall should the game accept the tracks for sale. “This conceivably could be the opening of the floodgates,” Kiewel said. “We always had the feeling that the people at Harmonix, they’re all in bands, they’re music people and I think it actually broke their hearts that we couldn’t work it out to get our stuff into the queue faster.”

Kiewer said Sub Pop is looking at converting its entire catalog, which includes early Nirvana, the Postal Service and the Shins, into Rock Band-ready tracks for sale in the new Rock Band Network store. “You’d be crazy not to make your stuff available and sell it if you can,” he says. “My fears are we haven’t actually used the software yet and audio multi-tracking software in general is pretty complex.”

With 8 million units and more than 50 million downloads sold, Rock Band appears poised to become a full-on music platform, and the new Beatles game — due September 9th — is sure to bring in an entirely new demographic. The game is creating new production costs heretofore unknown for Sub Pop, says Kiewel.

“It’s all up in the air,” he says.”This’ll be a ‘release’ as far as I’m concerned. This’ll be another format alongside vinyl and CD.”

David DownsYeah it was said before that Sub Pop was already saying that they were going to put their music in the game with RBN but what about the fact that that would (almost 100%) mean Bleach in less than 5 months from now and maybe before the rest of Nevermind? I think that's interesting. Maybe it would add more interest in Bleach?

[T-Hybrid]

I think people are getting WAY ahead of themselves on the RBN. Yes, there's going to be a ton of music. But to expect Nirvana, Zepplin, Floyd, etc...? That seems like an aweful lot of hype for no reason other than to hype.

This forum has a bad reputation of building up stuff beyond what it could ever actually be. And while it's entirely possible that SOMEDAY bands will bring their content to the game via RBN...to expect it at launch (or so close to launch) is just asking for a let down.

[skyttskytt]

I think people are getting WAY ahead of themselves on the RBN. Yes, there's going to be a ton of music. But to expect Nirvana, Zepplin, Floyd, etc...? That seems like an aweful lot of hype for no reason other than to hype.

This forum has a bad reputation of building up stuff beyond what it could ever actually be. And while it's entirely possible that SOMEDAY bands will bring their content to the game via RBN...to expect it at launch (or so close to launch) is just asking for a let down.

Nirvana is hyped right here because Sup Pop is already on board with the RBN, and they own the rights to some of Nirvana.

[Fuelie79]

That's pretty cool that labels are already interested, but I'm hoping if a bigger band submits stuff that Harmonix will take over and put it in the Music Store. Bleach definitely belongs in the album section of the Music Store reather than in RBN.

[coescastle]

Wait a minute, we will see the rest of Nevermind? Could have fooled me. ;)

[cherokeesam]

Nirvana is hyped right here because Sup Pop is already on board with the RBN, and they own the rights to some of Nirvana.

^This exactly.

This isn't a fanboy rumor or blogger speculation; this is SUB POP themselves saying "We're going to put Bleach and The Shins and OUR ENTIRE DISCOGRAPHY in RBN."

Maybe *Sub Pop* are getting ahead of themselves, but we'll see. I'm sure there's now a 99% chance of Bleach and other pre-Nevermind Nirvana (and the core of the Seattle Revolution....!:eek: ) heading for RBN.

[Transbrak]

More importantly, Sub Pop has The Reverend Horton Heat and Flight of the Concords.

Actually I would love Bleach, or any Nirvana other than Smells Like Teen Spirit.

[cherokeesam]

That's pretty cool that labels are already interested, but I'm hoping if a bigger band submits stuff that Harmonix will take over and put it in the Music Store. Bleach definitely belongs in the album section of the Music Store reather than in RBN.

I disagree.

If a band/label chooses to DIY it and get it out faster on RBN, then go for it. There's no real difference between the RBN Store and the RB Store other than the fact that the former is user-generated submissions while HMX handles the latter. There might be the usual round of chartgeeks b*itching if Sub-Pop "mischarts" songs, but hell, they'd b*itch about the charts even if HMX handled them professionally.

Bring on some Bleach! :)

[pong0814]

It may be hype at this stage, or a small label getting ahead of themselves, but IF Sub Pop manages to get Bleach on RBN, that will be a day one purchase for me. (And my head would literally explode if Sub Pop also manages to get Mudhoney, early Soundgarden, the Supersuckers, and Flight of the Conchords on RBN)

[woodwindpizza]

This news is amazing!
:D

[oogabooha]

Yay, Bleach>Nevermind

[jasonrosenbaum]

FOTC and the Shins FTW!

[Ultimatum]

Bleach has some tracks that would be absolutely spectacular to play with the entire band.

[cmg4894]

As probably the biggest Nirvana fan on these boards I would be all for this. 'Bleach' isn't better or worse than any Nirvana album..It's just different.

PS: It would be great to get the Sub Pop 7" single version of 'In Bloom'.

[CloudWolf]

Bleach means Love Buzz and that means I fully support this :D

[iagomonk]

Flight of the Mutha'uckin' Conchords? Hell yes

[timmay9]

Hopefully yes. Bleach is my favorite Nirvana album, though not by much.

[sandswipe]

I've got a cupboard with cans of food, filtered water,
And pictures of you and I'm not coming out
Until this is all over
And I'm looking through the glass where the light bends
At the cracks
And I'm screaming at the top of my lungs pretending
The echoes belong to someone
Someone I used to know

And we become silhouettes when our bodies finally go

I want to walk through the empty streets
With something constant under my feet,
But all the news reports recommend that
I stay indoors
Because the air outside will make our cells
Divide at an alarming rate until our shells
Simply cannot hold all our insides in,
And (that's when), (That's when) That's when we'll explode
(and it won't be a pretty sight)

And we'll become silhouettes when our bodies finally go


POSTAL SERVICE FULL ALBUM. YEAH SUB POP!

[BStu78]

^This exactly.

This isn't a fanboy rumor or blogger speculation; this is SUB POP themselves saying "We're going to put Bleach and The Shins and OUR ENTIRE DISCOGRAPHY in RBN."

Maybe *Sub Pop* are getting ahead of themselves, but we'll see. I'm sure there's now a 99% chance of Bleach and other pre-Nevermind Nirvana (and the core of the Seattle Revolution....!:eek: ) heading for RBN.

This is completely untrue. I don't whether Sub Pop is thinking about releasing Bleach or not. Because Sub Pop THEMSELVES never mentioned the album. Or The Shins, which I'd love to see released. Read the article. Sub Pop mentions NO ARTIST. This is speculation based on speculation. You actually ARE turning it into a fanboy rumor by elevating it this way as something substantial when you're really just taking Rolling Stone's speculation as proof.

Sub Pop being on board with RBN is huge. I'm very psyched to see what they do. Heck, I hope they find a way around the "no covers" rule to give us The Shin's version "We Become Silhouettes". Their participation certainly sparks the imagination, but lets not willfully forget that its still just imagination. Sub Pop has hinted at nothing. They have confirmed nothing. They have speculated about nothing specific.

As an additional caution, while Sub Pop controls some rights to Bleach, they may not control ALL rights to it. They likely have rights to the recordings, but the publishing rights are often separately controlled. Whoever has the publishing rights to Bleach needs to also be on board.

[solidsnakejt]

great news, i see a bright future for HMX and the rockband platform

[ThuDogFood]

Read the article. Sub Pop mentions NO ARTIST.

True, but the article does mention this


Kiewer said Sub Pop is looking at converting its entire catalog, which includes early Nirvana, the Postal Service and the Shins, into Rock Band-ready tracks for sale in the new Rock Band Network store

Who knows if they will follow through on this, but if they do, this has the potential to be very awesome in itself

[crivit]

I disagree.

If a band/label chooses to DIY it and get it out faster on RBN, then go for it. There's no real difference between the RBN Store and the RB Store other than the fact that the former is user-generated submissions while HMX handles the latter. There might be the usual round of chartgeeks b*itching if Sub-Pop "mischarts" songs, but hell, they'd b*itch about the charts even if HMX handled them professionally.

Bring on some Bleach! :)

Actually there's a huge difference. Access to songs in the RBN is limited based on console, and where you live. I would assume if Bleach did appear on RBN HMX would end up porting it to the music store eventually, but untill they could only Xbox 360 owners in North America and Europe could buy it.

[Skode]

Actually there's a huge difference. Access to songs in the RBN is limited based on console, and where you live. I would assume if Bleach did appear on RBN HMX would end up porting it to the music store eventually, but untill they could only Xbox 360 owners in North America and Europe could buy it.

Agreed...imagine the contraversy if we started getting some really big artists through RBN that many could not get access too or god forbid didnt make the screening process to be selected for PS3 or Wii. Nah, i love the idea of indie band exposure for everyone and leaving the bigger hitters for HMX charting and distribution, its the fairest was for the gamers

[jr174200]

Damien Jurado, Iron & Wine, No Age, Fleet Foxes, Ugly Casanova etc? Sign me up.

Band Of Horse's "Cease to Begin"?!?! Holy lord that would be amazing. One of my favorite albums of the last two years.

[T-Hybrid]

True, but the article does mention this...
I wonder if they mention those bands because they're bands we've heard of and thus would be able to identify why this label is significant.

[jr174200]

For those interested, you can see the Sub Pop discography here:

http://www.subpop.com/catalog/discography

[cherokeesam]

Actually there's a huge difference. Access to songs in the RBN is limited based on console, and where you live. I would assume if Bleach did appear on RBN HMX would end up porting it to the music store eventually, but untill they could only Xbox 360 owners in North America and Europe could buy it.

So that leaves....what, Wii and PS3 owners in Asia, Australia, Central America and Subsaharan Africa in the lurch....??? Somehow I don't think that constitutes a very large number of RB players. :cool:

Hell, by the time RBN rolls out, Sony will be fully on board this project and will have the tools necessary to make the software work. And then PS3 owners can take time to gloat over the 500 gig library they have to download all these new RBN songs, as opposed to MS' meager 120. *Then* who'll be crying? That's right, me and all the other 360 owners.

As for Wii....sorry, I really am. But until Tendo is willing to make a next-gen console that has the same kind of hardware as the PS3 and 360, they're pretty much permanently relegated to black sheep status.

[Skode]

So that leaves....what, Wii and PS3 owners in Asia, Australia, Central America and Subsaharan Africa in the lurch....??? Somehow I don't think that constitutes a very large number of RB players. :cool:

Hell, by the time RBN rolls out, Sony will be fully on board this project and will have the tools necessary to make the software work. And then PS3 owners can take time to gloat over the 500 gig library they have to download all these new RBN songs, as opposed to MS' meager 120. *Then* who'll be crying? That's right, me and all the other 360 owners.

As for Wii....sorry, I really am. But until Tendo is willing to make a next-gen console that has the same kind of hardware as the PS3 and 360, they're pretty much permanently relegated to black sheep status.

Post translation = it doesnt effect me so i dont care haha

[cherokeesam]

This is completely untrue. I don't whether Sub Pop is thinking about releasing Bleach or not. Because Sub Pop THEMSELVES never mentioned the album. Or The Shins, which I'd love to see released. Read the article. Sub Pop mentions NO ARTIST.

Au contraire:


Kiewer said Sub Pop is looking at converting its entire catalog, which includes early Nirvana, the Postal Service and the Shins, into Rock Band-ready tracks for sale in the new Rock Band Network store. “You’d be crazy not to make your stuff available and sell it if you can,” he says. “My fears are we haven’t actually used the software yet and audio multi-tracking software in general is pretty complex.”


The game is creating new production costs heretofore unknown for Sub Pop, says Kiewel.

“It’s all up in the air,” he says.”This’ll be a ‘release’ as far as I’m concerned. This’ll be another format alongside vinyl and CD.”

Kiewer says *specifically* that he wants to convert the ENTIRE catalog, including Nirvana and The Shins and The Postal Service into the game. Doesn't get much clearer than that.



As an additional caution, while Sub Pop controls some rights to Bleach, they may not control ALL rights to it. They likely have rights to the recordings, but the publishing rights are often separately controlled. Whoever has the publishing rights to Bleach needs to also be on board.

Well, that's a duh no-brainer....of course SubPop can't license songs they don't have the rights to. NOBODY can. Kiever wouldn't have even mentioned it if he didn't control the rights.

[cherokeesam]

Post translation = it doesnt effect me so i dont care haha

Short version, yep. :)

But I'm srs about the PS3....Sony will be working their little asses off to get RBN to work on their system. Remember, Sony is one of the Big Four record labels; of course they want to be part of this. RBN will be compatible with PSN within a matter of months, if not weeks.

[davidshek]

Kiewer says *specifically* that he wants to convert the ENTIRE catalog, including Nirvana and The Shins and The Postal Service into the game. Doesn't get much clearer than that.

Read it again. Kiewer said that he wants to convert Sub Pop's entire catalog. Period. The Rolling Stone journalist filled in the 2nd half of that sentence, the "including Nirvana etc." part.

Had Kiewer actually said that, it would be a direct quote. But he didn't, so it wasn't.

[Alvarado6411]

So I heard Dave Grohl owns some of the Nirvana tracks from Nevermind and Courtney owns some, who owns the ones from Bleach?

[cherokeesam]

Read it again. Kiewer said that he wants to convert Sub Pop's entire catalog. Period. The Rolling Stone journalist filled in the 2nd half of that sentence, the "including Nirvana etc." part.

Had Kiewer actually said that, it would be a direct quote. But he didn't, so it wasn't.

Um...."Sub Pop's entire catalog" does include Nirvana. And The Shins. And Postal Service. And The Conchords. And Soundgarden. MudhoneyGreenRiverTad etc etc etc. To wit: when Kiewer says "Sub Pop's ENTIRE CATALOG, that infers the, uh, ENTIRE CATALOG, including all those bands, famous and in-, that he didn't *have* to mention by name.

Shouldn't that be pretty clear to all English-speaking peoples of the world...? :cool: Why are we having an argument about reading comprehension here?

[davidshek]

Um...."Sub Pop's entire catalog" does include Nirvana.

Shouldn't that be pretty clear to all English-speaking peoples of the world...? :cool: Why are we having an argument about reading comprehension here?

Because you're inferring things that may be incorrect, just like the author of that article did. Sub Pop's entire catalog did include Bleach at one point in time. It may not now. It's a very common practice for masters and publishing rights to exchange hands between labels, especially when a band moves from a smaller/indie label like Sub Pop to a larger/major label like DGC/Geffen (part of UMG)...like Nirvana did in between the releases of Bleach and Nevermind.

[Ramirez16]

Can't wait to get songs from Cat Butt, Fruit Bats, and Pedro the Lion!

[cherokeesam]

Because you're inferring things that may be incorrect, just like the author of that article did. Sub Pop's entire catalog did include Bleach at one point in time. It may not now. It's a very common practice for masters and publishing rights to exchange hands between labels, especially when a band moves from a smaller/indie label like Sub Pop to a larger/major label like DGC/Geffen (part of UMG).

Phish-phan helpfully provided a link to SubPop's entire discography

here (http://www.subpop.com/catalog/discography)

Down there on SP034, you've got
http://www.subpop.com/releases/nirvana/full_lengths/bleach

I strongly doubt SubPop could sell the album on their website if they didn't still have the rights to it.

[davidshek]

I strongly doubt SubPop could sell the album on their website if they didn't still have the rights to it.

You'd be surprised. Distribution rights for an album do not necessarily imply publishing rights to use the songs in other ways (like Rock Band DLC/RBN). Once again, you're inferring things from incomplete data.

[SirRobin1tothe3]

Who cares about Nirvana, I'll finally get to play the Reverend Horton Heat's "Bad Reputation" in a rhythm game!

[cherokeesam]

*sigh*

Okay, fine, whatever, guys. Maybe we'll see Bleach, maybe we won't.
But those of you in denial who are trying to look for scenarios where SubPop lost the rights to this music somewhere over the last twenty years are reading far more into it than those of us (including a professional RS journalist) who read: "including Bleach" when we read "entire Sub Pop discography."

[davidshek]

Who cares about Nirvana, I'll finally get to play the Reverend Horton Heat's "Bad Reputation" in a rhythm game!

I'll tell you what it is! (what is it God dang it!?)
It's some kinda Texas psychobilly freakout, that's what it is!

[Jdurgit]

According to this website (http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/nirvana-catalog-to-be-re-released-on-vinyl-1003953862.story#/bbcom/news/nirvana-catalog-to-be-re-released-on-vinyl-1003953862.story), ""Bleach," Nirvana's first album, is currently being manufactured for vinyl release by Sub Pop." If they are producing the vinyl album and not ORG who is distributing the other albums, and if Sub Pop is still able to distrbute the digital versions of Bleach through their own website, I would be hard pressed to believe that Sub Pop DOESN'T own the publishing rights to "Bleach".

In order for a song to be put into Rock Band, HMX needs to get Music Clearance rights. (This site (http://magazine.women-in-film.com/Home/TheVirtualMentor/VMArticle/tabid/87/ArticleID/85/CBModuleId/733/Default.aspx) does a great job of explaining the process, and because this is a videogame the use of songs in RB falls under this category since it's audio synched to video). So from what I see, Sub Pop owns the major rights to this song and therefore have every right to distribute it in RB if they want to, with the surviving members of Nirvana and Kurt Cobain's estate getting the royalty payments.

[woodwindpizza]

On iTunes, Sub Pop 1989 is the stated copyright owner/publisher for the "Bleach" album.

[Skode]

It seems pretty clear they have the rights to the Bleach album...i wont be surprised to see it appear on RB in the future as DLC but the entire catalogue for the label is not gonna happen or at least not for a very very very very very very long time however RBN pans out :)

Did i see the Flaming Lips listed in that back catalogue...hmmm interesting ;)

[woodwindpizza]

I hope this leads to the entire Nirvana discography releasing for Rock Band. :)

[FlameSama1]

Someone say...grunge revival?

[Ferocious Q]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_artists_who_have_worked_with_Sub_Pop

This could be interesting!

Death Cab For Cutie
Hot Hot Heat
Hole
Modest Mouse
Mudhoney
Reverend Horton Heat
Smashing Pumpkins
Sunny Day Real Estate!!!!

[AeroZeppelinSevenfold]

I would fall on the floor crying tears of joy if we get Bleach on Rock Band.

Love Buzz is one of my favorite tracks. Very simple songs, and very noisy, I love it.

[blzbub74]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_artists_who_have_worked_with_Sub_Pop

This could be interesting!

Death Cab For Cutie
Hot Hot Heat
Hole
Modest Mouse
Mudhoney
Reverend Horton Heat
Smashing Pumpkins
Sunny Day Real Estate!!!!

Don't get too excited about Smashing Pumpkins being on that list. Sub Pop only published two singles. They had already signed with a different label before the release of their first album.

[kiggidykev]

I'm happy to see an actual corporation be in on this from the get-go. Hopefully they will meet with success and the Rock Band Network will get noticed by other companies that may be on the fence

[CamoTC]

The first three (of 4) albums by The Thermals were released on SubPop. :DDDDDD

[EPIC_FAIL_GUY]

I really hope they put out some Green River

[BStu78]

According to this website (http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/nirvana-catalog-to-be-re-released-on-vinyl-1003953862.story#/bbcom/news/nirvana-catalog-to-be-re-released-on-vinyl-1003953862.story), ""Bleach," Nirvana's first album, is currently being manufactured for vinyl release by Sub Pop." If they are producing the vinyl album and not ORG who is distributing the other albums, and if Sub Pop is still able to distrbute the digital versions of Bleach through their own website, I would be hard pressed to believe that Sub Pop DOESN'T own the publishing rights to "Bleach".

In order for a song to be put into Rock Band, HMX needs to get Music Clearance rights. (This site (http://magazine.women-in-film.com/Home/TheVirtualMentor/VMArticle/tabid/87/ArticleID/85/CBModuleId/733/Default.aspx) does a great job of explaining the process, and because this is a videogame the use of songs in RB falls under this category since it's audio synched to video). So from what I see, Sub Pop owns the major rights to this song and therefore have every right to distribute it in RB if they want to, with the surviving members of Nirvana and Kurt Cobain's estate getting the royalty payments.

And the site you linked to explains why licensing of songs involves TWO parties. The publisher and the record label. The record label is generally assigned a great deal of rights to release and re-release a music recording, so the fact that they are planning a vinyl release of Bleach doesn't really prove anything as it relates to the publishing rights. Sub Pop would clearly need to be on board to release Bleach on Rock Band, but so would whoever controls the publishing rights. I don't know where you got that site suggesting only one of the two sides of licensing was necessary to secure synchronization rights. Its quite clear that you have to deal with the person who owns the master recordings (SubPop) and whoever owns the publishing rights.

We don't know who that is. Maybe Sub Pop does have a say. Maybe whoever does would be cooperative. But given the value of Nirvana's publishing catalog, it would be a mistake to just assume this is all going to work out. I sure hope it does, but nothing is remotely confirmed or even officially suggested at this point.

[krammkracker]

Awesome!

[Agentespio]

Bring on the Pedro the Lion and Album Leaf DLC!

I think my Indie Rock genre on Rock Band is going to explode when RBN comes out...

[sonicnerd23]

YES.

Blew, Big Cheese, School, and About a Girl are going to be pure win.

[XF_Zack]

I'm digging the thought of some Band of Horses.

There's also a little 3 song Fugazi sampler including Song #1 which, I am told, is not a **** you song.

[cmg4894]

Just to be clear since some people don't know or understand..

Sub Pop still owns some of the stock in Nirvana's 'Bleach'. The rights never moved to Geffen/DGC. As a matter of fact..If you look at the back of 'Nevermind' there is the Sup Pop logo. That was part of the buy out Geffen had to pay. Sup Pop's logo had to be on the next few Nirvana records that would make up the rest of the Sup Pop contract.

[Lawl01]

When I first heard of this announcement, I swear I had to go change my pants...thrice!

Sonic Youth, Soundgarden, Zen Guerilla, Mudhoney, Comets on Fire, Nirvana, Flight of the Conchords, Babes in Toyland, Dinosaur Jr., Fugazi, Green River, Hellacopters, White Stripes, The Postal Service, Reverend Horton Heat, Fleet Foxes, Pedro the Lion, Smashing Pumpkins (one record), The Rapture, Turbronegro and many many more?

I'm sold, and my wallet weeps.

[chumsicles]

Bleach is their best album anyway

[madaseyer]

I highly doubt the rest of Nevermind will come out, since I noticed that Guitar Hero 5 has Lithium and Smells Like Teen Spirit, which are the two missing tracks for the Nevermind album in the Rock Band Store.

[Ultimatum]

Lithium is a live track, though.

[RockerJoe123]

I highly doubt the rest of Nevermind will come out, since I noticed that Guitar Hero 5 has Lithium and Smells Like Teen Spirit, which are the two missing tracks for the Nevermind album in the Rock Band Store.

You forgot Come as You Are.

[Sveppi]

Oh god, Sub Pop have The Shins, White Stripes, Fleet Foxes, Death Cab For Cutie, Modest Mouse, Nirvana and FLIGHT OF THE CONCHORDS! OH YEAH!

[JPSChampagne]

Why is nobody freaking out about Cansei De Ser Sexy like I am?

That's the band here that absolutely blows my mind. My friends and I have been jumping around all night ever since we heard the news. We're all huge Rock Band junkies, but if we've got CSS, it'll feel like we never even like the game at all compared to how much we'll enjoy it then.

Also - holy crap, the Shins and the Postal Service. Who cares about Nirvana when you have hundreds and hundreds of songs that are absolutely the cream of the unknown crop? This is the most exciting news I've ever gotten about possible releases for Rock Band.

[LoopyChew]

Why is nobody freaking out about Cansei De Ser Sexy like I am?

That's the band here that absolutely blows my mind. My friends and I have been jumping around all night ever since we heard the news. We're all huge Rock Band junkies, but if we've got CSS, it'll feel like we never even like the game at all compared to how much we'll enjoy it then.

Mofo'in THIS. My profile will back me up where when I say that I've wanted CSS in the game for a long time.

And, and and, The Go! Team. I would be seriously PSYCHED to get Proof of Youth into the game.

[Thom1234]

Awesome. Hopefully more labels will look into this now.

Also, Fleet Foxes, Postal Service nao.

[cmg4894]

Also, I believe Sub Pop has the distribution rights to The Vaselines..I would love to play 'No Hope'

[Teh_Jakester]

I highly doubt the rest of Nevermind will come out, since I noticed that Guitar Hero 5 has Lithium and Smells Like Teen Spirit, which are the two missing tracks for the Nevermind album in the Rock Band Store.

Did Harmonix release Come as You Are and Endless, Nameless when I wasn't looking?

[Ramirez16]

Maybe November 3rd?



Nirvana’s “Bleach” Returns as 20th Anniversary Deluxe Reissue (http://www.rollingstone.com/rockdaily/index.php/2009/08/14/nirvanas-bleach-returns-as-20th-anniversary-deluxe-reissue/)

8/14/09, 2:26 pm EST

To celebrate the 20th anniversary of Nirvana (http://www.rollingstone.com/artists/nirvana)’s Bleach, Sub Pop Records will reissue the band’s 1989 debut album with as an expanded CD/double vinyl collection on November 3rd. Additionally, the reissued Bleach will feature an unreleased bonus live album called Live at Pine Street Theatre, recorded at the Portland, Oregon venue on February 9th, 1990. Both Bleach and the Pine Street show have been digitally remastered from the original tapes by Jack Endino, who produced Nirvana’s debut LP.

Pre-orders will soon be available at the Sub Pop, the home of Nirvana before the band made the major label jump to DGC for the legendary Nevermind. Bleach remains one of Sub Pop’s few platinum albums. Like the original run of Bleach on vinyl, the first-run of the reissued double-LPs will be printed on white vinyl.

Also, the songs “Big Cheese” and “Downer” will feature on vinyl for the first time after being excised from the original LP release. Both the CD and the LP will be accompanied with a booklet looking back at the classic debut along with never-before-seen photographs of Kurdt Kobain and Chris Novoselic, as they called themselves in the album’s liner notes, along with pre-Grohl drummer Chad Channing.Read our recent interview with Channing here. (http://www.rollingstone.com/rockdaily/index.php/2009/04/28/ex-nirvana-drummer-chad-channing-steps-out-as-songwriter-on-before-cars-walk-back/)

As for Pine Street concert, half of Bleach is represented, along with Incesticide’s “Dive,” “Molly’s Lips” and “Been A Son,” a performance of “Spank Thru” from the Sub Pop 200 comp and a early live version of “Sappy,” or “Verve Chorus Verse” as it was called when it appeared as a secret song on 1993’s No Alternative benefit disc. Get the track list for the Bleach: Deluxe Edition below:

Bleach: Deluxe Edition
1. Blew
2. Floyd the Barber
3. About a Girl
4. School
5. Love Buzz
6. Paper Cuts
7. Negative Creep
8. Scoff
9. Swap Meet
10. Mr. Moustache
11. Sifting
12. Big Cheese
13. Downer

Live at Pine Street Theatre
1. Intro
2. School
3. Floyd the Barber
4. Dive
5. Love Buzz
6. Spank Thru
7. Molly’s Lips
8. Sappy
9. Scoff
10. About a Girl
11. Been a Son
12. Blew

[pong0814]

I was browsing through the "covers policy" thread here in the RBN subforums, and read that covers would not be permitted in the RBN (no matter if the band owns the rights, or if the song is public domain). If this were the case, and if Bleach is to come out of the RBN, I just realized that we won't be getting "Love Buzz", since that is actually a cover of a song by Shocking Blue.

[Fizzeler]

Maybe November 3rd?

awesome definitely one album I will pick up immediately :)

[Koolkitties]

I think people are getting WAY ahead of themselves on the RBN. Yes, there's going to be a ton of music. But to expect Nirvana, Zepplin, Floyd, etc...? That seems like an aweful lot of hype for no reason other than to hype.

This forum has a bad reputation of building up stuff beyond what it could ever actually be. And while it's entirely possible that SOMEDAY bands will bring their content to the game via RBN...to expect it at launch (or so close to launch) is just asking for a let down.
Did you even read the press release?

[a_bull_on_parade]

This makes me jizz in my pants

[Bub]

I just can't get over Bleach being in Rock Band. That is gonna be so sweet.:D

[fafa979]

its a great album... and honestly, something like this, harmonix SHOULD let into the RB Network... get people to go there and see what its all about... what can be done... and give it a boost... i think this is exactly what they are trying to do and could put a knife in guitar hero. DO IT!

[BStu78]

Did you even read the press release?

Did you? Because there still is no official suggestion that Bleach will be released via the Rock Band Network. T-Hybrid is right. People are jumping to absurdly unsupported conclusions over this. There isn't one shread of official suggestion over this. I hope it does happen, but there is ZERO reason to think its going to right now. This speculation is based ON SPECULATION. That's what the Rolling Stone writer did when he threw out those bands. HE speculated. This is second hand speculation and is fundamentally worthless to base our expectations around.

It might happen. It'll be awesome if it does, but that it might happen is no reason to rush to celebrate as if it is happening. There is simply nothing to justify that right now.

[bakerfall]

Did you? Because there still is no official suggestion that Bleach will be released via the Rock Band Network. T-Hybrid is right. People are jumping to absurdly unsupported conclusions over this. There isn't one shread of official suggestion over this. I hope it does happen, but there is ZERO reason to think its going to right now. This speculation is based ON SPECULATION. That's what the Rolling Stone writer did when he threw out those bands. HE speculated. This is second hand speculation and is fundamentally worthless to base our expectations around.

It might happen. It'll be awesome if it does, but that it might happen is no reason to rush to celebrate as if it is happening. There is simply nothing to justify that right now.

How is Sub Pop stating that they are going to release their entire catalog (which includes Bleach) anything but an "official suggestion"?