GH:WT owner, what SHOULD I buy?

[theINC]

Hi there. I am a PS3 owner and regrettably a GH:WT owner (at the time last year here in Aus when both WT and RB1 - yes, RB2 hasn't been released yet - came out, I was under the impression the WT instruments were more reliable than the RB ones - I have been proven wrong) and am definitely picking up TBRB.

However, I don't know what the best way to go about this is.

My World Tour guitar is only semi-functional - after playing for more than half an hour the strummer becomes incredibly mushy, strumming only when it feels like it. I know there's a fix for this but it involves opening the guitar and replacing the switches yourself, which to me seems like a fair bit of effort and something I haven't had any experience with.

My World Tour drums, after using the sensitivity tuning software and swapping the cymbals, are good enough, but I know that their layout won't be perfect for a RB game, especially when HMX charts 16th notes on the hihat to the red pad - definitely not made for the WT kit.

In addition, I've got a GH3 PS2 guitar (with an adapter for using it with my PS3 - the PS2 GH3 guitar is comparable in quality and size to the 360/PS3 Les Paul, mine's still working fairly well), a microphone and a mic stand.

I'm not sure whether I should sell as much of this as possible and buy the whole Special Edition plus a Gretch or a Rickenbacker (assuming those two will be available in Australia), or just buy the game and use my World Tour instruments (I'll buy a replacement guitar of course!).

I haven't had any previous experience playing RB with the WT instruments, is it alright? Quite alright, or just playable? In Rock Band games I've played only with the RB1 instruments before and found the guitar strummers to be responsive (picking up all my strums) but mushy (you don't feel when you've strummed) - how do the RB2 instruments (which I assume these instruments are based on) compare?

[Oddbrother]

If you want the full playability, you should always buy controllers associated to their own game.

To help you decide better on whether or not you should get different instrument controllers, here's a compatibility chart (http://wiki.scorehero.com/ControllerCompatibility).

The Rock Band 2 guitar definitely has an improved strum bar. Not mushy anymore, but not clicky either. The fret buttons are a little more precise with depressing, but are still just as noisy.

Have you ever tried Rock Band Drums before? The Rock Band 2 wireless drum kit has the same amount of noise as the GH drum kit. It's also velocity sensetive, which only works with Rock Band 2 (just like GH drums velocity sensetivity only works with GHWT and beyond).

[theINC]

Have you ever tried Rock Band Drums before? The Rock Band 2 wireless drum kit has the same amount of noise as the GH drum kit. It's also velocity sensetive, which only works with Rock Band 2 (just like GH drums velocity sensetivity only works with GHWT and beyond).

I've only used the RB1 drums before (at a few friends' houses) and it was pretty comfortable, I honestly prefer its layout to the WT kit, though it did make a more horrible noise than the WT kit - which isn't quiet itself.

Thanks for that.

I'll see if I can get my World Tour guitar to work properly...

[dmorris395]

I'm in the same situation you're in. I have GTWT instruments but I want the Special Edition just because it looks cool. My World Tour stuff works, though. I just think I'd enjoy playing with the Beatles' instruments. Let us know what you decide.

[JackBNimble]

Well the strum bar fix is fairly easy there is not much really to it .But if you can get your hands on any RB2 or TB:RB peripherals then that would be your best way to go.

But untill then I would try fixing your strum bar , I can't see much re-sale value in your GH peripherals.

[Dr._Frasier_Crane]

I've only used the RB1 drums before (at a few friends' houses) and it was pretty comfortable, I honestly prefer its layout to the WT kit, though it did make a more horrible noise than the WT kit - which isn't quiet itself.

Thanks for that.

I'll see if I can get my World Tour guitar to work properly...

The RB 2 drums are significantly quieter than the RB1 drums.

[zepplinmike]

I personally hate the WT drums and can't imagine using them to play a RB game. I own them purely for the MIDI adapter, so I can use my TD-3s.

[Rod_Stixx]

If you can afford to get some RB2 or TB:RB instruments somehow, that would be the way to go. The WT instruments would work well enough if they were fully functional (and the drums were set up like RB). Get whatever RB instruments you can afford and have a blast. Upgrade whatever you don't get to initially later.

[Billy-93]

Guitar hero instruments are miles better than rb ones. The drums on rockband look crap, sound crap and feel crap. The layout is rubbish with no extended cymbals.

I use gh drums with cymbals and it aint harder just need to adjust hands earlier

[JackBNimble]

Guitar hero instruments are miles better than rb ones. The drums on rockband look crap, sound crap and feel crap. The layout is rubbish with no extended cymbals.

I use gh drums with cymbals and it aint harder just need to adjust hands earlier

While you are entitle to your own opinion I completely disagree with it.

[zepplinmike]

Guitar hero instruments are miles better than rb ones. The drums on rockband look crap, sound crap and feel crap. The layout is rubbish with no extended cymbals.

I use gh drums with cymbals and it aint harder just need to adjust hands earlier

IMO, the GH drums are actually more limited by their layout than the rb ones are. Because some of the pads double as cymbals and toms, the rb drums simulate having 3 cymbals and 3 toms. The GH drums only have 2 cymbals and 2 toms. It's a little different if you're using the GH drums to play RB, but then the 2nd cymbal is useless anyway.

[harveyglobetrot]

There is marginal difference between a GH and RB guitar. They will work fine, you just sacrifice the functionality of the slider strip/solo buttons (and the sound effect switch on the RB guitar) when you play with a guitar in the other game series.

The drums, however, do make a significant difference. Yes, they will still work, but the game experience is severely compromised. Because GH has five lanes, they combine them into four lanes when you are playing with RB drums. On the flip-side, you are stuck with one useless pad when you use GHWT drums in RB. Either way, many of the charts turn out to be horribly un-fun.

I would look at investing in the drums which you are most likely to play (unless, of course, you have the room and cash to afford two plastic drum sets). If you are more likely to play RB more, get the RB drums. If you are going to play more GH, get the GH drums.

In terms of guitar reliability, I'm told the RB2 guitars (of which the three Beatles guitars seem to be updated and prettified versions) are vast improvements over the RB1 guitars. I wouldn't bank on seeing the Rickenbacker or Gretsch over here, though, sadly.

[SteveoKnievo]

In terms of guitar reliability, I'm told the RB2 guitars (of which the three Beatles guitars seem to be updated and prettified versions) are vast improvements over the RB1 guitars. I wouldn't bank on seeing the Rickenbacker or Gretsch over here, though, sadly.

You are correct, the RB2 guitar is tremendously better than the original. The strum bar takes a day or two to get used to but after that is smooth sailing. I have had mine since RB2 launched and the only problem I have is that the solo buttons (which are already useless) seem to have stopped working.

[harveyglobetrot]

You are correct, the RB2 guitar is tremendously better than the original. The strum bar takes a day or two to get used to but after that is smooth sailing. I have had mine since RB2 launched and the only problem I have is that the solo buttons (which are already useless) seem to have stopped working.

That's good to know. The one thing that was stopping me from forking out for the LE bundle was the fact that the RB1 Strat is so horribly awful I thought all RB guitars may have been tainted. I've since heard that the RB2 guitars are a vast improvement, so that is a relief. Hopefully the Beatles guitars are an even greater improvement. For the price tag, I'd expect them to be (they certainly look awesome, hopefully they perform similarly).

I also agree with you re: the solo buttons. Granted, they are far more useful than the God-awful slider on a GHWT guitar, but I think the only time I (and many others) have used them is to get the achievement/trophy for 100%-ing a solo with them.

[theINC]

Thanks for all the updates guys.
I already own the World Tour kit so it's a matter of whether I should buy the Limited Edition pack or the game on its own. As I said earlier I have a mic stand and one mic already too, so the Limited Edition bundle would bring me one step towards completing the Beatles setup.

As for my experience with the RB guitar, I would say the solo buttons are a million times more useful than the slider bar on the World Tour guitar. Biggest gimmick feature on a plastic instrument ever - inconsistently charted in the game, and nigh useless when you're actually trying to hit notes with no guide as to where your finger is along the bar.

So, it's really a matter of whether I should get the Limited Edition bundle and appreciate the RB2 drums/Hofner/extra mic and stand, or just buy the game and use my current instruments.

Just wondering, do the Beatles instruments still have an effects switch despite the fact that the game won't be using effects? Just in case I want to use those instruments with RB1/2...

[MostSpartan14]

Just wondering, do the Beatles instruments still have an effects switch despite the fact that the game won't be using effects? Just in case I want to use those instruments with RB1/2...

Yeah, it has everything the RB2 guitar has but like you said it can only be used in RB1/2

[theINC]

Yeah, it has everything the RB2 guitar has but like you said it can only be used in RB1/2

Really? The RB2 guitar works with Guitar Hero World Tour, shouldn't this one also work?

[MostSpartan14]

Really? The RB2 guitar works with Guitar Hero World Tour, shouldn't this one also work?

Sorry I wasn't clear. I meant the extra features like the effects switch will only work in RB1/2. The guitar itself will work with every game.

[theINC]

Sorry I wasn't clear. I meant the extra features like the effects switch will only work in RB1/2. The guitar itself will work with every game.

Awesome.

I reckon I'll buy the special edition pack if only to get a good guitar... and drums that fit the layout of both RB and World Tour.

[MonsterZero]

Buy Xbox 360 and RB2. I sold all my PS2 and GH junk last year. Don't miss that sheet at ALL!

TBRB is gonna be the sheet! Get ready to blow your mind!

[theINC]

Buy Xbox 360 and RB2. I sold all my PS2 and GH junk last year. Don't miss that sheet at ALL!

TBRB is gonna be the sheet! Get ready to blow your mind!


I already own a PS3. In before fanboy war.