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MeticalliaIsntThatGood
12-12-2007, 05:07 AM
Why not?

Anybody willing to void their warranty by modding the Drum Set to be wireless?

ThePaska
12-12-2007, 05:09 AM
I'm not, that's for sure.

Also I don't think it is as practical as wireless guitar, or microphone, the drums are moved around far less frequently.

derrikirred
12-12-2007, 05:10 AM
Why not?

Anybody willing to void their warranty by modding the Drum Set to be wireless?

I was curious about why they didn't make the mic and drums wireless in the first place. Maybe it has already been answered and I just need to read around a bit. Seems goofy though.

Damaged
12-12-2007, 05:17 AM
the drums are moved around far less frequently.

Plenty frequently, if you don't want them taking over your living room 24/7. They're moved out to play and moved again to be put away. But unlike the guitar it's not like you're moving them while playing.

I'm just not sure it's worth the hassle of possible lag & compatibility & whatever yadda-yadda problems would pop up.:cool:

MeticalliaIsntThatGood
12-12-2007, 05:23 AM
I'm talking strictly for cool value.

Haha.


I may try to make the Mic wireless if I ever get my PS2 bundle.

Bakkster
12-12-2007, 05:46 AM
Drums have no particularly compelling reasons to be wireless.

Mics are a fair amount more expensive and complicated to do wireless, because of the larger volume of data.

Both are better served as USB devices, IMO. But don't let that stop you from hacking it :cool:

derrikirred
12-12-2007, 06:23 AM
The main reason I want wireless is because I have a really large living room and hate sitting that close to the screen. I know, I know... I can buy extensions. But I would much prefer wireless so there aren't cords running everywhere.

Tarzanman
12-12-2007, 06:56 AM
There are probably two main reasons:

1. Power. The drums use piezos instead of switches (as the guitar does) i'm guessing that the amp draw would probably kill a standard sized battery fairly quickly. Combine that with the fact that there are a LOT more drum beats than guitar or bass notes during a song.

2. Latency. Any musician worth their salt will tell you that on the whole, drummers need to have a lot better timing than the other members of a band. Wireless introduces latency in that there are more steps between you pushing a button and that signal making it to the PS3... also I am *guessing* that the guitar dongle doesn't poll the guitar as often as the ps3 polls the guitar and microphone.

Bakkster
12-12-2007, 06:59 AM
1. Power. The drums use piezos instead of switches (as the guitar does) i'm guessing that the amp draw would probably kill a standard sized battery fairly quickly. Combine that with the fact that there are a LOT more drum beats than guitar or bass notes during a song.

Piezos actually generate their own voltage when they are hit. Add a transistor and you have the equivalent of a switch, with no extra power consumption.

aceplace
12-12-2007, 07:25 AM
Actually if you can get a wireless USB based mic, than you can simply use that for Rock Band.

Not sure how to go about modding drums to be wireless, plus it doesn't seem like wireless drums would be very "usefull".

Tarzanman
12-12-2007, 12:51 PM
Piezos actually generate their own voltage when they are hit. Add a transistor and you have the equivalent of a switch, with no extra power consumption.

Yes, but my understanding is that its at an *extremely* low amperage (at least the piezo's in our drum controllers) which (i'm guessing) probably has to be amplified for accurate signal distinction.

Am I right?

Kevhouse
12-12-2007, 01:00 PM
Actually if you can get a wireless USB based mic, than you can simply use that for Rock Band.

Not sure how to go about modding drums to be wireless, plus it doesn't seem like wireless drums would be very "usefull".

I thought of the same thing before the game came out. Checked eBay, Radioshack, Amazon, plus just about every electronics store near me (Including TigerDirect...yeah it's 5 minutes from my house :D) and didn't find any wireless USB mics. I found some regular wireless mics, but those things were running for a good $120 each anyway. I'm sure a wireless USB headset or something can be made pretty easily...it's just hard to find one with a good quality.

Back on topic, I suppose you could use the drums as wireless so as not to clutter up your living room? Mine is decent sized, but the fact that I have cords everywhere bothers me sometimes. If all the instruments were wireless that'd be sweet. But, then again, with the issues of latency and all that, it probably wouldn't be worth it.

weisguy119
12-12-2007, 01:06 PM
I need me some wireless drums! I wanna do some Tommy Lee overhead, spinning drum kit sh1t!

/sarcasm off

Kevhouse
12-12-2007, 01:17 PM
Actually, come to think of it, in response to my last post, does anyone else remember the Xbox Music Mixer karaoke game? Didn't that have a wireless mic? The original Xbox ports were just modified USB cables...so it's completely possible to see wireless mics in the future for RB.

Bakkster
12-12-2007, 01:40 PM
Yes, but my understanding is that its at an *extremely* low amperage (at least the piezo's in our drum controllers) which (i'm guessing) probably has to be amplified for accurate signal distinction.

Am I right?

Yes, it is a low amperage, but with proper circuitry a low amperage signal can be utilized without additional power consumption. One example would be to use a transistor as a switch.

So yes, the signal is high voltage, low amperage, but it does not necessarily need to be amplified.

Lareden
12-12-2007, 01:55 PM
I'm hoping maybe 3rd party Bluetooth peripherals come out. I've already been using my phone's Bluetooth headset.

cuddie
12-12-2007, 02:02 PM
I'd prefer all of my Rock Band peripherals to be wired, simply because I don't like replacing the batteries and I don't find the cords to be a hassle. The actual xbox 360 controller I don't mind, with the play & charge kit.