Is Time Traveling Really Possible?

[IErrantVentureI]

I've never heard of this before, and I thought I'd share it with you all. It's very intriguing, and to me, believable.

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread61544/pg1

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Titor

Original Post: http://www.anomalies.net/object/titororiginalpost.html

What do you all think?

My first thought was it was just some guy having a good time messing with everyone's heads. But the more I read, the more I thought this guy really had to know his stuff...

Pictures of John Titor's Time Machine: http://johntitor.strategicbrains.com/TimeMachine.cfm

[pacifistWITHgun]

I love AboveTopSecret, it's always good for either a laugh or literary inspiration...

But on topic, I don't think so and to be honest even if it was it wouldn't be something I'd want to mess with. Ever.

[IErrantVentureI]

Sorry if you don't like the website. Google John Titor and choose your own.

[Oscar-Rio]

Write down this year, date, time, and second on a piece of paper and put it in a safe place. If time travel is ever available in our lifetime for regular use for common people go to the location on that piece of paper. Did your future appear out of nowhere or ring your doorbell?

[pacifistWITHgun]

Sorry if you don't like the website. Google John Titor and choose your own.

I wasn't being sarcastic, I actually do like that website lol, it's actually kind of amazing to see what some people believe and most of the stuff, while completely off the wall is still rather interesting...

[Elegy]

Write down this year, date, time, and second on a piece of paper and put it in a safe place. If time travel is ever available in our lifetime for regular use for common people go to the location on that piece of paper. Did your future appear out of nowhere or ring your doorbell?

Yes. I had become a Jehovah's witness.

[IErrantVentureI]

Write down this year, date, time, and second on a piece of paper and put it in a safe place. If time travel is ever available in our lifetime for regular use for common people go to the location on that piece of paper. Did your future appear out of nowhere or ring your doorbell?

What if I forgot to do that?

[voodoo618]

That was definitely a worthwhile read.

It is possible, but I don't know how probable it is.

If he really wanted to convince me, he would have told me who wins the World Series and Superbowl.

[Mystlyfe77]

Protip: If it's on abovetopsecret, it's not real.

How about this nail in the coffin. He predicted there would be a US civil war starting in 2008. Also known as, last year.

[Elegy]

Protip: If it's on abovetopsecret, it's not real.

How about this nail in the coffin. He predicted there would be a US civil war starting in 2008. Also known as, last year.

well....Marvel Comics DID release a pretty big series....

:]

[voodoo618]

Protip: If it's on abovetopsecret, it's not real.

How about this nail in the coffin. He predicted there would be a US civil war starting in 2008. Also known as, last year.

I haven't read that, but I found this:

"On my world line in 2011, the United States is in the middle of a civil war that has dramatic effects on most of the other Western governments."

EDIT: Nevermind, he said that in 2005 the civil war started. Ha ha.

EDIT2: This sounds as if he stole it straight from the book, Alas, Babylon!:

"There is a civil war in the United States that starts in 2005. That conflict flares up and down for 10 years. In 2015, Russia launches a nuclear strike against the major cities in the United States (which is the "other side" of the civil war from my perspective), China and Europe. The United States counter attacks. The US cities are destroyed along with the AFE (American Federal Empire)...thus we (in the country) won. The European Union and China were also destroyed. Russia is now our largest trading partner and the Capitol of the US was moved to Omaha Nebraska."

EDIT3: LIES!:

"As a result of the many conflicts, no, there were no official Olympics after 2004. However, it appears they may be revived in 2040."

[ArchangelZero]

Too many failed predictions...

Although, considering we are continually traveling through time since we are going forward, it is possible. It is also people when approaching the speed of light...as far as I know...many celestial phenomena may have some force that can cause time travel...only time will tell...

[Mystlyfe77]

Too many failed predictions...

Although, considering we are continually traveling through time since we are going forward, it is possible. It is also people when approaching the speed of light...as far as I know...many celestial phenomena may have some force that can cause time travel...only time will tell...

What if time doesn't exist (http://discovermagazine.com/2007/jun/in-no-time)?

[a21schizoidman]

yes, it is possible, why, just ten minutes ago i was at the Battle of Tippacanoe, i brought Tecumseh back with me actually

[voodoo618]

yes, it is possible, why, just ten minutes ago i was at the Battle of Tippacanoe, i brought Tecumseh back with me actually

Pics?

[Stewie]

yes, it is possible, why, just ten minutes ago i was at the Battle of Tippacanoe, i brought Tecumseh back with me actually

William Henry Harrison is that you?

[Banky71]

We are all travelers in time. We all move forward one moment at at time.

[Sarge51]

I don't believe Time Travel is real, because if it were possible wouldn't someone from the future have visited us? or did they go all Doc Brown on us and mess up and end up having to go back in time again to fix everything then destroy the time machine? Or is it like Bill&Ted, only going back in time just to borrow some famous people for a school project? ORR was it like in Galaxy Quest when they used the Omega 13 to travel back 10 minutes to save teh day from that ugly green guy.

[antftw]

I LOVE Galaxy Quest.

[benson111]

It is possible, and in doing so it is possible to create a new timeline that we wouldn't know about as well. There are many possibility's that could explain that we have already been visited, UFO's unexplained paintings of craft descending from the sky in cave drawings. You know.

[classicrockdude]

We know space Travel is possible

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YPijSWJmsE

[Buffdog18]

Possible, but what would humans do but go back end screw things up even more.

[DeadPhoenix223]

It is true. He is my son. After he came back to our time, he became famous and a world leader. I am from 1981, I came here for the coming war starting on August 29th.

[DeadPhoenix223]

But seriously guys? You think its real? If he was real he's a pretty big ass for leaving out a few big points we might have needed to know in a few months.
http://www.thenewblackmagazine.com/Photofiles/9-11.jpg
and if civil war started in 2008, where was I?

besides you guys arent suposed to know about time travel yet

[benson111]

But seriously guys? You think its real? If he was real he's a pretty big ass for leaving out a few big points we might have needed to know in a few months.
http://www.thenewblackmagazine.com/Photofiles/9-11.jpg
and if civil war started in 2008, where was I?

besides you guys arent suposed to know about time travel yet

Monetary civil war? I think its possible, just not because the goof said it was.

[war_lord]

Is it possible? Yes.
Will humans ever develop the technology necessary to travel time? Probably not.
Was this John Titor guy a d-bag? Definitely.

[davidshek]

Pictures of John Titor's Time Machine: http://johntitor.strategicbrains.com/TimeMachine.cfm

No flux capacitor? Pic fail.

In all seriousness, this guy has been proven to be a fake many many times over. Lots of failed "predictions" and such.

Lots of things previously thought to be "impossible" have turned out to be quite possible. Remember that, not too long ago, people thought breaking the sound barrier was impossible? Just one example, there are many others.

I for one believe that time travel will eventually be realized, as well as faster-than-light travel. Perhaps not in our lifetimes, but someday...

[DeadPhoenix223]

well he's 9 years old right now. if i find a guy by the name of John Titor who's nine, i can kill him and nothing would happen to him, right?

[Renrock]

As much as it intrigues me, I'd be more willing to believe you could travel years in the future (in what would seem instantaneous to you), but that you couldn't travel back in time.

[benson111]

As much as it intrigues me, I'd be more willing to believe you could travel years in the future (in what would seem instantaneous to you), but that you couldn't travel back in time.

Although time travel has been a common plot device in fiction since the 19th century, and one-way travel into the future is arguably possible given the phenomenon of time dilation based on velocity in the theory of special relativity (exemplified by the twin paradox) as well as gravitational time dilation in the theory of general relativity, it is currently unknown whether the laws of physics would allow backwards time travel.

[Renrock]

Although time travel has been a common plot device in fiction since the 19th century, and one-way travel into the future is arguably possible given the phenomenon of time dilation based on velocity in the theory of special relativity (exemplified by the twin paradox) as well as gravitational time dilation in the theory of general relativity, it is currently unknown whether the laws of physics would allow backwards time travel.

. . . ok :p

[OrdealByFire]

what benson said. something like that.

theoretically, it's possible to travel to the future.

i have no idea how to explain it, but my uber-smart math teacher said it would be possible, but unlikely.

[DeadPhoenix223]

Time Travel is done. Just crionic freeze yourself and wake up in the future. to go back, catch up with a light beam from the past, and your bac`k where you started. Credits go to me.

[DarkPh0enix1]

problem with time travel is as best explained by the simpsons halloween episode that dealt with it. even if you managed to travel back in time, any changes you cause, including by your mere presence in that time, could create a change into the future you would be attempting to return to. think of the butterfly effect in temporal terms. you could be the reason why someone reaches an appointment late, fails to interact with someone in a waiting room, who fails to take an idea or inspiration to go somewhere they didn't think of before. that person could fail to meet another, who could lead to a relationship that leads to the existence of a friend who convinced another friend to move to an area where they met a significant other, whose child could be the friend that introduced you to your wife or husband, which could negate the existence of the children you may already have or possibly have in the future. where your child could one day create a vaccination or remedy towards a pandemic and apocalyptical mutating spanish flu outbreak, instead you could meet someone else and the children from that relationship could become just another victim, along with yourself, and everyone you know.

all because you caused someone to be late. time travel is the ultimate of rolls of the dice.

if you go back in time and kill hitler to bring an end to the most morally corrupt decision in the history of mankind, it could lead to saving millions of jewish people, but it could also lead to the rise of someone that doesn't attempt to invade russia until everything else is secure and hence now the whole world speaks german and all minorities wage guerrilla warfare against an oppressive fascist aryan regime. could also lead to world peace thru war prevention and star trek level globalization and advancement.

go back in time due to losing a loved one in 9/11, kill bin laden or stop the airplanes, save the people in the towers and every soldier from the wars we've fought. but also there's no sweeping 1984 level security that allows a different terrorist from the IRA, hamas, ELF, north korean agent or any assorted terrorist group from performing a different terrorist attack which could involve a nuclear weapon that could devastate the western seaboard and bring the pain you saved yourself from to millions more. or it could also lead to middle eastern peace, the recession never occuring due to an increase in the price of oil and technological advancements that could push humanity to a new golden age.

and even if you do go back in time, the events to lead to the person you became to create those changes in the first place would never exist. you create a time paradox, by negating your own existance. because the moment the day you travel back in time comes, your time machine will not have been created because you never created it or other factors lead to it's creation not being there, along with the fact that you won't exist, period. or any notes you wrote to tell yourself or others to do what you did. which will not be done in the same way, creating another possible future.

did that make sense?

like i said, it's a roll of the dice. it's nice to think of how to change the past could make things better, but it could make things worse too. maybe some things are meant to be.

[voodoo618]

problem with time travel is as best explained by the simpsons halloween episode that dealt with it. even if you managed to travel back in time, any changes you cause, including by your mere presence in that time, could create a change into the future you would be attempting to return to. think of the butterfly effect in temporal terms. you could be the reason why someone reaches an appointment late, fails to interact with someone in a waiting room, who fails to take an idea or inspiration to go somewhere they didn't think of before. that person could fail to meet another, who could lead to a relationship that leads to the existence of a friend who convinced another friend to move to an area where they met a significant other, whose child could be the friend that introduced you to your wife or husband, which could negate the existence of the children you may already have or possibly have in the future. where your child could one day create a vaccination or remedy towards a pandemic and apocalyptical mutating spanish flu outbreak, instead you could meet someone else and the children from that relationship could become just another victim, along with yourself, and everyone you know.

all because you caused someone to be late. time travel is the ultimate of rolls of the dice.

if you go back in time and kill hitler to bring an end to the most morally corrupt decision in the history of mankind, it could lead to saving millions of jewish people, but it could also lead to the rise of someone that doesn't attempt to invade russia until everything else is secure and hence now the whole world speaks german and all minorities wage guerrilla warfare against an oppressive fascist aryan regime. could also lead to world peace thru war prevention and star trek level globalization and advancement.

go back in time due to losing a loved one in 9/11, kill bin laden or stop the airplanes, save the people in the towers and every soldier from the wars we've fought. but also there's no sweeping 1984 level security that allows a different terrorist from the IRA, hamas, ELF, north korean agent or any assorted terrorist group from performing a different terrorist attack which could involve a nuclear weapon that could devastate the western seaboard and bring the pain you saved yourself from to millions more. or it could also lead to middle eastern peace, the recession never occuring due to an increase in the price of oil and technological advancements that could push humanity to a new golden age.

and even if you do go back in time, the events to lead to the person you became to create those changes in the first place would never exist. you create a time paradox, by negating your own existance. because the moment the day you travel back in time comes, your time machine will not have been created because you never created it or other factors lead to it's creation not being there, along with the fact that you won't exist, period. or any notes you wrote to tell yourself or others to do what you did. which will not be done in the same way, creating another possible future.

did that make sense?

like i said, it's a roll of the dice. it's nice to think of how to change the past could make things better, but it could make things worse too. maybe some things are meant to be.

What if you went back in time and killed yourself when you were just a baby?

You would be killed by someone who, technically, does not exist.

It's a never-ending dilemma.

[DeadPhoenix223]

^^I dont like your name.
Your like the evil me clone number 1.
I'm the good me clone number 223

[DarkPh0enix1]

it's a time loop. when the day comes for me to go back, i never do, so the baby lives to grow up to become the man who goes back to kill the baby and so forth.

the thought with all of that is, does time and reality itself loop or just the time and reality of the one person?

then again, a baby being murdered would become news, that other people would see, that adds a new memory and thought, leading to a change in an event, and possibly a scandal. could change other things for people. doctors, police, funeral arrangements and stuff occur. my family changes from the tragedy and teh fact i never interacted with them. other people i interacted never get that interaction. anyone whose life i changed while alive never does, and their lives go in a different direction. people i've been romantically involved with go in a different direction as well. things change drastically, only to undo themselves because i never went back in time to kill me as a baby. and the vicious circle begins again.

[voodoo618]

it's a time loop. when the day comes for me to go back, i never do, so the baby lives to grow up to become the man who goes back to kill the baby and so forth.

the thought with all of that is, does time and reality itself loop or just the time and reality of the one person?

then again, a baby being murdered would become news, that other people would see, that adds a new memory and thought, leading to a change in an event, and possibly a scandal. could change other things for people. doctors, police, funeral arrangements and stuff occur. my family changes from the tragedy and teh fact i never interacted with them. other people i interacted never get that interaction. anyone whose life i changed while alive never does, and their lives go in a different direction. people i've been romantically involved with go in a different direction as well. things change drastically, only to undo themselves because i never went back in time to kill me as a baby. and the vicious circle begins again.

This is why I don't think we will ever be able to "Time Travel"

[jeccaneko]

I thought the subject said "Is Time Traveling Pants Really Possible?" What the hell is wrong with me? :confused:

[Pwnz0r3d]

Ok, theoretically, yes and no.
It might be possible if you can harness and control a WORM hole (a tube basically that is a shortcut through space, possibly time), but worm holes are one way only, so thats the only problem other than the obvious

[willdabeast21]

I'm gonna guess it's not possible
Be cool if it was though

[zack10house]

I am from the future, a future where rock band has a full Spinal Tap album
this is legit, guys, trust me.

:p seriously though, if time travel IS possible, I think it's one way only.

[General Lein979]

well he's 9 years old right now. if i find a guy by the name of John Titor who's nine, i can kill him and nothing would happen to him, right?In theory no. Within logic yes. If he is time traveling he would disappear because the 9 year old is gone. But he never existed he would have never given you a reason to kill the nine year old. The nine year old grows up becoming him and he time travels so you kill the nine year old. He disappears and the sequence repeats it's self so many times that it splits time causing a black hole. This is why if time travel is ever made possible it will be considered highly unethical to got back in time or come back from the future and the back tech would never be able to leave a lab just like if human cloning was possible because the complications could cause the end of humanity.

My Prediction there will be a beatles up date today around 10.

[Vrtra Theory]

I love time loops (or, really, predestination paradoxes), but I don't think time travel would ever work that way.

One way to think of time is that as we move forward in time, an infinite number of parallel universes are being generated at a quantum level. For any split second, the differences between each of these parallel universes are virtually indistinguishable, but if you follow two different branches, those differences would begin "rolling" up to the atomic level, then the molecular level, and before you know it you're looking at real differences. In this universe, the car missed you by mere inches; in that universe, it hit and killed you; in yet another, you were struck, but after extensive surgery you completely recovered.

So, assuming that you're on Earth surrounded by other people, time is moving forward all around you. All of us are technically "time traveling" right now -- it's just that we're all moving at the same speed through time, 1 second at a time. If you were to cryogenically freeze yourself, that would be one way to move through time quicker ("your" time might tick only 1 second in the time it took the rest of the world to move 1 year.) If you could somehow generate a portal and step through it "into the future", you would be stepping into one particular branch of the universe in the future, and even by observing it you would be changing it.

That's why I don't think a time loop could actually occur. Let's say you did find a way to travel "back in time" -- you would essentially be backtracking up the tree, as the infinite different possible universes passed by on either side of you. When you popped out in the past and assassinated Hitler (or whatever it was you intended to do), guess what? You can't go "back". That is, the split second you arrived in the past world, you fundamentally changed it -- you are now living in a new, infinitely branching branch of time, in a universe totally unrelated to the one you came from. Even if you were to finish your mission and move "forward" in time back to the year you came from, you would arrive in a world completely different from the one you remembered. The world you remembered is still going on, in a totally different universe and time line, completely unchanged except for your sudden and irreversible disappearance.

[Mystlyfe77]

Although time travel has been a common plot device in fiction since the 19th century, and one-way travel into the future is arguably possible given the phenomenon of time dilation based on velocity in the theory of special relativity (exemplified by the twin paradox) as well as gravitational time dilation in the theory of general relativity, it is currently unknown whether the laws of physics would allow backwards time travel.

Of all the time travel speculation, cryogenic freezing, paradox, alternate reality talk in this thread, this is the only post (and benson's previous one) are supported by any degree of science. That upsets me.

It's shocking how little we know about "time" in reality. Every equation we've written that involves time works in both ways. So why does time only flow forwards? Who knows, maybe it is flowing backwards? Does it flow in other directions in other universes? (http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/911905/can_time_flow_backwards_in_other_universes.html?ca t=34)

There are a number of questions and theory regarding relativity and the speed of light (side note, waves CAN move faster than the speed of light (http://www.universetoday.com/2009/06/30/device-makes-radio-waves-travel-faster-than-light/)), and nobody can be honestly sure what will happen. It's all thought experiments and hypothesis so far.

In certain hypothesized methods of time travel, you can't travel further back than the first time machine. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRWwI61so5Q) And many of paradox questions can be addressed through the belief in parallel universes (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NS1-SZ2L81k&NR=1). Without that, we enter an even more murky belief in paradoxes, including ones that question the existence of free will (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7AupwRJrgM&feature=related) (something I can get into a whole different scholastic debate about).

Those videos are a little simplified, but they can help understand some of the fundamental concepts.


edit: Also note, there are various different, and sometimes conflicting, hypothesis about time travel and quantum mechanics.

[Stewie]

I love time loops (or, really, predestination paradoxes), but I don't think time travel would ever work that way.

One way to think of time is that as we move forward in time, an infinite number of parallel universes are being generated at a quantum level. For any split second, the differences between each of these parallel universes are virtually indistinguishable, but if you follow two different branches, those differences would begin "rolling" up to the atomic level, then the molecular level, and before you know it you're looking at real differences. In this universe, the car missed you by mere inches; in that universe, it hit and killed you; in yet another, you were struck, but after extensive surgery you completely recovered.

So, assuming that you're on Earth surrounded by other people, time is moving forward all around you. All of us are technically "time traveling" right now -- it's just that we're all moving at the same speed through time, 1 second at a time. If you were to cryogenically freeze yourself, that would be one way to move through time quicker ("your" time might tick only 1 second in the time it took the rest of the world to move 1 year.) If you could somehow generate a portal and step through it "into the future", you would be stepping into one particular branch of the universe in the future, and even by observing it you would be changing it.

That's why I don't think a time loop could actually occur. Let's say you did find a way to travel "back in time" -- you would essentially be backtracking up the tree, as the infinite different possible universes passed by on either side of you. When you popped out in the past and assassinated Hitler (or whatever it was you intended to do), guess what? You can't go "back". That is, the split second you arrived in the past world, you fundamentally changed it -- you are now living in a new, infinitely branching branch of time, in a universe totally unrelated to the one you came from. Even if you were to finish your mission and move "forward" in time back to the year you came from, you would arrive in a world completely different from the one you remembered. The world you remembered is still going on, in a totally different universe and time line, completely unchanged except for your sudden and irreversible disappearance.

Sounds like you believe in the Back To The Future theory of time travel. Specifically the part you were mention that once you complete your mission and went back to your time, your time would have changed.

[Mystlyfe77]

Sounds like you believe in the Back To The Future theory of time travel. Specifically the part you were mention that once you complete your mission and went back to your time, your time would have changed.

Except, in a parallel universe-type theory (as he outlines), THAT WOULDN'T HAPPEN. What you do in one universe has NO IMPACT on the others. That's why they're PARALLEL, not intersecting. If you did move in between universes, it would be paradox-free and would have no impact on them. You're simply there doing something or you're not. One universe Hitler is dead, and in yours he lived out his course just as he did.

[bood-boy]

time travel, in my opinion, can only work 1 way. forwards. i would imagine that one would be able to create a bubble in which time stands still as outside the bubble time moves forward at a sped up rate. but once u speed time up, you cant go back. time is linear i think.

[Fennz]

If time travel were possible, it should have the "whatever happened, happened" rule from Lost.

[bood-boy]

If time travel were possible, it should have the "whatever happened, happened" rule from Lost.

thats from 'the time machine'... not lost. kidna sorta hehe.

dudes chick dies, so he creates a time machine in order to go back and prevent it from happening. so he goes back in time, saves her, but she died a different way. no matter what he does, she will always die because he only made the time machine because she died, so if she doesnt die, he would have never built the machine.

[Fennz]

thats from 'the time machine'... not lost.

oh. never saw that movie/book. Still a insane rule though.

[Julio_Strikes_Back]

I hope time travel is not possible and never will be possible, because companies would just go back in time and exploit the lesser-knowing people for a profit.

[ArmsAreLoud]

Or space marines would shoot the crap out of the CEO's before they can.

'Cause no dimwitted scientist would bother inventing a time machine before making himself a Spartan suit.

[bood-boy]

sleeping is a form of time travel. i shut my eyes and when i open them back up, its however many horus later, and seemingly no time has passed. if u want to future to come sooner, just sleep till when u want whatever moment to come.

[Mystlyfe77]

I'm going to sound like a broken record, but honestly people, your opinions aren't worth it if you're not backing them with real science. Just because "you think" time works a certain way doesn't mean it actually does.

[IErrantVentureI]

I'm going to sound like a broken record, but honestly people, your opinions aren't worth it if you're not backing them with real science. Just because "you think" time works a certain way doesn't mean it actually does.

What an AN-I-MAL!
:p

[DeadPhoenix223]

My theory: (Just to throw in my voice)

We will never learn how to time travel. Why? Because if we learn how to time travel, then we would've already known how to time travel before we learned how to time travel and everything would make as about as much since as this sentence does.

[gmarsh]

No it's not

/thread

[Renrock]

My theory: (Just to throw in my voice)

We will never learn how to time travel. Why? Because if we learn how to time travel, then we would've already known how to time travel before we learned how to time travel and everything would make as about as much since as this sentence does.

And that just helps show that you can't go back in time. Says nothing about going further in time. :D

[Stewie]

Renrock is from the future!
/thread

[Renrock]

Renrock is from the future!
/thread

Shhhh! :p

[General Lein979]

My Prediction there will be a beatles up date today around 10.I am the time traveler.

[Sarge51]

All we have to do is develop Faster Than Light travel, and theoretically, we could alter the time around us.

I've heard that the faster you travel, the slower time is, and that if you were to travel at the speed of light, then time would stand still. So the only logical solution is to travel faster than light!

But good luck in developing a Mass Effect field to enable FTL drives.

[Der_Lex]

I posted this in another thread, but I guess it's much more appropriate here. Very entertaining read: http://www.abyssandapex.com/200710-wikihistory.html

[DethTung]

We don't have the resources or technology to move molecules back to previous locations yet. We'd need a resource from somewhere in our Solar System and technology to travel faster than light to time travel.

[nashphx13z]

I posted this in another thread, but I guess it's much more appropriate here. Very entertaining read: http://www.abyssandapex.com/200710-wikihistory.html

I laughed when I found out it was a story someone wrote. Nice find, Lex.

[NormanCoxwell]

First of all Id like to say I did not look at your links. Im just posting what I believed before anything possibly sways me otherwise. This is me prior to reading your links.

Ive worked on my own time travel theory awhile ago. I believe its possible but illogical.

I see it as time having to rely on time. Time changes depending on the legnth of time it takes light to reach you. Time is dependant on light so logically if you would move away from the sun, time would become slower. However its illogical for you could never return. The time distance would quickly be made up as returning closer light would reach sooner and thus accelerate time. I originally thought that possibly light is what eventually breaks down your body but quickly dropped that theory. Your bodies rely on a seperate time and break down due to a combination of light and gravity wearing down your body. So I believe time relies on light, so that farther you go the slower time goes and thus Earth's time is accelerated as your own is slowed down. But its a conumdrum for as you would return light would reach you sooner and yadadada.

My point is Time Travel is possible and yet impossible at the same time. It exists and yet it doesnt.

[Mystlyfe77]

My theory: (Just to throw in my voice)

We will never learn how to time travel. Why? Because if we learn how to time travel, then we would've already known how to time travel before we learned how to time travel and everything would make as about as much since as this sentence does.


And that just helps show that you can't go back in time. Says nothing about going further in time. :D

Or, as I posted earlier, it could just be that you can't travel further back than the first time machine was created...


First of all Id like to say I did not look at your links. Im just posting what I believed before anything possibly sways me otherwise. This is me prior to reading your links.

Ive worked on my own time travel theory awhile ago. I believe its possible but illogical.

I see it as time having to rely on time. Time changes depending on the legnth of time it takes light to reach you. Time is dependant on light so logically if you would move away from the sun, time would become slower. However its illogical for you could never return. The time distance would quickly be made up as returning closer light would reach sooner and thus accelerate time. I originally thought that possibly light is what eventually breaks down your body but quickly dropped that theory. Your bodies rely on a seperate time and break down due to a combination of light and gravity wearing down your body. So I believe time relies on light, so that farther you go the slower time goes and thus Earth's time is accelerated as your own is slowed down. But its a conumdrum for as you would return light would reach you sooner and yadadada.

My point is Time Travel is possible and yet impossible at the same time. It exists and yet it doesnt.

...what?

[Alright_Computer]

This is a pretty good (if simplified) explanation on how time travel could theoretically be possible: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRWwI61so5Q

What happens as a result of the time travel remains to be seen, obviously.

[hawkofva]

Or, as I posted earlier, it could just be that you can't travel further back than the first time machine was created...I hope I don't invent it then. Picture it: you invent the first time machine, and instantly hundreds of random people show up.

[Mystlyfe77]

I hope I don't invent it then. Picture it: you invent the first time machine, and instantly hundreds of random people show up.

Except the first time machines won't likely be able to send people back and forth (as shown in the video that Alright Computer reposted).


This is a pretty good (if simplified) explanation on how time travel could theoretically be possible: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRWwI61so5Q

What happens as a result of the time travel remains to be seen, obviously.

I already posted that video.

[Alright_Computer]

I already posted that video.

Goddamn it! That's what I get for not reading the whole thread.

[hawkofva]

Except the first time machines won't likely be able to send people back and forth (as shown in the video that Alright Computer reposted).

That would suck for whoever tried to go back to then, in that case. :eek:

[Mystlyfe77]

That would suck for whoever tried to go back to then, in that case. :eek:

Well, you wouldn't try to go back in time in a time machine that can't send people back. So once there is one that can, you can go back to when it was created. So the first guy to try it can go back about 3 minutes. :p

[Alt_Rocker77]

Let's hope that it doesn't exist, it's much too catastrophic.

[Knucklesdude]

No.







Not yet.

<_< >_>